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| Interview Of Late Bro Raymond Frank, Former Governing Body Of Jehovah's Witness by ChristianFreedo(m): 10:47am On Jan 03, 2017 |
In my last post, all members of the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses, past and presence, dead and alive, the highest Ecclesiastical body, controlling and directing the religious organization of Jehovah's witnesses and to a large extent, the consciences and minds of about 8 million Jehovah's Witnesses was considered. Among such members, was Late Bro Raymond Frank, the nephew of Fred Franz (Watchtower Vice President, sold interpreter of New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures). His disagreement with the body on major doctrinal issues, his subsequent resigning and later, his disfellowshipped is well documented in his book, Crisis of Conscience -the struggle between loyalty to God and loyalty to ones religion |
| Re: Interview Of Late Bro Raymond Frank, Former Governing Body Of Jehovah's Witness by ChristianFreedo(m): 10:51am On Jan 03, 2017 |
Pro 18:13 warns, "When anyone replies to a matter before he hears the facts, it is foolishness and humiliating". When we, Jehovah's Witnesses hear or know of someone that disagree with the doctrines of the governing body, and is either disfellowship or leaves the religion, we do not often have the opportunity to hear from both sides. We are simply expected to follow the procedures, tags the person an apostate, unworthy of association/communication and the matter is closed. Any possibility of ever learning the fact about the disagreement, if he was wrong or right, dies with it. The nature/reason for the disagreement are shrouded in secrecy, but should be important to all of us, because life can be involved. The watchtower, January 15, 1974 had this fine advice: "When persons are in great danger from a source that they do not suspect or are being misled by those they consider their friends, is it an unkindness to warn them? They may prefer not to believe the warning. They may even resent it. But does that free one from the moral responsibility to give that warning?" The interview you are about to watch was granted by Late Bro Raymond Frank, a former Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. In interview, he has spoken about his life, early childhood, sacrifices he made, doctrinal issues, fail prophecies, what he considered most important in his disagreement with the governing body, sacred service to God and christ etc. For sake of convenience, I have included a time-line for the video, when and what he said when he said. Please, I implore the viewers to have an open mind (Ac 17:11; 28:27), because, our life, worship, our salvation and hope is at state. NB: I consider this video to be spiritually upbuilding, it rekindle my faith and desire to serve God loyally. My prayer is that it has the same effect for you. Timeline of the interview: 0:49 - Spoke about the genuineness of Jehovah's witnesses desire to Serve God and Christ, but also about the mentality developed in them as a result of years in the organisation 1:25 - Spoke about his personal life, early childhood, growing up as a Jehovah's Witness, challenges and difficulties experienced 4:50 - deals a little with Paul's letter to the early christians in the first century, what worship meant then, how they met and what purpose 7:11 - spoke about Paul's letter, worship centered on Jesus, sacred service and what it entailed and how it is different from the "narrow view of sacred service" instilled in the minds of Jehovah's Witnesses. 11:35 - spoke doctrinal relationship between Jehovah's Witnesses and some other religion as a result of coming from the same root, the movement that led to Jehovah's witnesses today, CT Russel. 13:37 - Answered questions about some of the false prophecies made by the organisation and the lack of humility in the way they try to justify them. 15:32 - Spoke about the difference between question jesus' disciples asked (seeking enlightenment) and the false prophecies made by the organisation 16:00 - How to help Jehovah's Witnesses from this wrong teachings/views and the wrong idea of sacred service instilled as a result of constant pressure from the organisation, thereby enjoying the freedom Christians enjoy 20:56 - Question about helping someone that loses faith in God as a result of losing faith in the watchtower organisation, why it happens and how such ones can be helped 23:07 - Speaks about the NWT Bible 26:54 - Spoke about minor doctrinal issues leads to proliferation of christian denomination, the natural tendencies of man to dominate others, real challenge to genuine christian love, proliferation of christians denomination test genuine christlike love 30:30 - spoke about the attitute of the pharisees in the governing body, lack of christlike attitute and love, disfellowshiping, authoritarianism, and his decision to live the governing body. 38:25 - spoke how the governing body became victims of victims 39:50 - 1975, the non-caring attitute of the governing body, their decision not to write after the failure and disillusionment, how drop in increase eventually forces them to write about the failure 41:00 - still on the non-caring attitute of the governing body, the dangers of following men, issues of alternative service, why the position taken by the governing body was wrong, lacking love and personal interest for suffering witnesses and why the eventually decided to change their position on alternative service (mainly to get a better standing with the government) 41:38 - still on alternative service, what taxation spoken of by Apostle Paul in Ro 13 involved in the first century 42:17 - how 2/3rd majority policies cause Jehovah's Witnesses to suffer, eventhough more than half of the members of the governing body voted that change should be made and when the change was eventually made after decades of suffering by Witnesses for a stand that had no scriptural backing (mainly to get a better standing with the government) 43:37 - the committee that made the NWT, those involved in the work 47:02 - Answered question about Pastor CT Russel, his volume of the scriptures, his thinking, his doctrine influnced by the second adventist, not putting trust in man and the error of doing so 50:05 - spoke about christ return (as against invisible presence taught by the governing body) 51:50 - why Jehovah's Witnesses accept all doctrine taught, despite not being scriptural 52:16 - spoke about what was most important to him, what doctrine of the organisation/governing body he disagreed with and the governing body (John 14:16) 54:07 - spoke about new teaches (new light), nothing genuinely new published today -this generation -1935, closing of heavenly calling embarrashment causes changes, not love of truth 59:48 - Answered question of what should be done if wrong teachings are found in your religion 1:02:51 - christ not lacking in the organisation, but so obscured to the background by the emphasis given to the organisation 1:04:04 - spoke of his loyalty 1:05:00 - how the ruling of the governing body's ruling can be affected and influenced by the personalities involved. Ted Jaz, Jack Bar and Dan sydlik as example 1:06:20 - Dan sydlik actually saw the problems, but had to express his concerns in private for fear of losing his position in the governing body 1:07:40 - answer questions regarding maintaining a personal relationship with Jesus and praying to Jesus 1:10:20 - queston about blood, his initial view, sacrifices he was willing to make in order to upload such teaching to hold the teaching of blood, how his views change, what made the teaching wrong, lacking basis, love and respect for life -blood is a symbol of life, only a symbol -life is greater than the symbol, how can you sacrifice the greater thing inorder to hold to a symbol -love is the sovereiging love, superior to all other laws 1:14:00 - answered question about his first book, how the governing body respond - speaks about the governing body's policy of maintaining silence over such matters, not to acknowledge the existence of such inorder to avoid giving it publicity 1:16:00 - answered question based on his second book, In search of Christain Freedom, if the organisation will someday acknowledge the problem (many are aware of the problem) and decide to decentralize and get back to the right track -christians in the first century were simple brotherhood -in the centuries following, more and more emphasis began to be given to men and positions 1:19:00 - challenges of joining other religious organisation - welcome initially with open arms - pressure to conform 1:22:00 - old light, new light light and darkness in the scriptures are compared to truth and error, if were error, it was darkness not light 1:23:42 - it not about coming out of a religious organisation because of flaws that is the most important thing, but what we do aferward is most important. 1:25:00 - speaks about heavenly calling, the text the watchtower regularly uses to indicate heavenly calling in Ro 8:16, -what they choose to ignore, -the apostle is speaking about being govern by either God's spirit or the sinful flesh, not about two classes like earthly or heavenly -the apostle is talking about 2 classes, one class govern by the sinful flesh and the other govern by God's spirit This is the inteview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMwCBrWXVeg |
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