Minirakiza:
U re highly welcome. Look! U have said it all. Now, I want u to know that the issue of the said Esther and Deborah is different.
No 1.Deborah is a judge,
No 2. Esther is a Queen
And the work they do has nothing to do with the Church.

So what Paul is saying in those verses is true.
And I want u to know that there's
no contradiction in the entire word
of GOD.

Gracious007:
Religion has always regarded women as the inferior species with low-end brains and that explains why the snake was able to trick eve into eating the fruit. Throughout the bible, none of God's aides were described as women. Angel Michael, angel gabriel, Jesus and God himself are all portrayed as men. Seems God detests women so much and that hatred of his was passed down to writers of the bible who also share god's misogynist traits.

barapistis:
the scripture becomes very tough to understand when a preacher is too focused on the teachings of paul...what was the message of jesus

makydebbie:
Why would God detest a creature he created?

Gracious007:


That's a question I don't have an answer to.

jmoore:
If God doesn't want female to be pastors, then he should not pour his holy spirit upon them.

catofin:
It is not allow in mai religion, what about the woman pastor is on her period[color=#006600][/color],

makydebbie:
Then don't be so sure about it cos its false. Your opinion tho, and you're entitled to it.

randomperson:
Op, Deborah and Esther never preached in church. Deborah was a judge while Esther was a queen. The bible was clear when it said that women should be quiet... It was reiterated in other places too, all in the new testament...
The only reason the church and Christians allow women to preach now is because the church is trying to modify it's principles to align with the general ideals of this time and age. When the bible was written, women were not considered equal to men... In fact the bible explicitly says woman was made for man and not man for woman.
This just goes to show that the bible and it's principles are not infallible and not for all times and purposes

Ioannes:
You bet your ass makydebbie, so called female pastors are going to hell unless they desist.

The issue of female pastors is as a result of the feminist agenda of Satan.

Kagawa10:


LOL!

My pastor is woman and she's heavenly bound by His grace..

BTW, do you realise there are some scriptural part that Paul gave his admonition without the spirit lead?

Take for example, 1 corr 7:25, it says "Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgement.."

This quite different to 1 corr 7:10 which says "And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband" but in the subsequent verse, verse 12, he said "But to the rest speak I, not the Lord"

All these shows that Paul gave his judgement on some matters without the spirit lead and it's not a strange thought to bound woman from speaking the gospel at that time because only few of them actually knows the scripture at the time and to prevent heresis in the Church, women would have to take the back seat.

Also, women are likely to be subject to the interest of their husband if they want to keep a healthy marriage. If these women becomes head of church and preachers, they may likely become puffed up and arrogant in their home, especially after seeing how the church members including the men bowing to them and all. Hence, why Paul stated that women who wants to work for God are advised to be like him, that is, become unattached and that widows are advised to remain as they are! It's no coincidence that most of these women church founders are Widows or those that are divorced and single.

Zenlife:



So?
That's a license to talk in church against the biblical teachings, the word of God?

Ioannes:


Of the twelve apostles called by Jesus, how many of them were women?

You are looking for passages that have tangential bearing to your case to justify what your spirit must tell you is wrong.

Inasmuch as the twelve apostles who are the pillar of the Church were all men, then why do you think the Church should depart from the actions of Jesus unless of course you think y'all are smarter than he is.

omoplaycool:

The message Christ brought to man is very simple but man in its bid to manipulate it's fellow man tries to "mistify " it in order to make some certain few seem like the custodians of God's message and this isn't peculiar to the Christian faith alone. The message is simple..
LOVE THE LORD THY GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART WITH ALL YOUR MIGHT WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH AND LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF..
In my opinion, I think the church of today has more work (love) to do than to sit and debate if it's right for a woman to mount the pulpit or if she should wear trousers or not. Just love sincerely and every other thing will follow suit..
So Bro, I'd lead the way I LOVE YOU
GOD BLESS YOU
GOD BLESS OUR WOMEN
AND GOD BLESS NIGERIA

saintmark88:


The scripture was very clear on that instruction, it was a S clear as day light, we all agree that the Bible was written under d influence of the Holy Spirit, so tht wasn't just an instruction from Paul, it was from God.

U might not see what's wrong with a woman teaching n church or preaching, but there must be a reason that instruction was given by God. It's not just there because Paul felt like talking and adding his own to D Bible.

For tht letter to have been written to both Timothy and and d church n corithn, it means that this same argument must have arisen as at that time, and all Paul did was to clarify D issues under d inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

We Christains choose to obey D part of d Bible that appeals to us and d one that doesn't, we discard.... because o have been asking myself, this female pastors, dnt they c these instructions??, they do but they choose to ignore.

The issue of womens right, feminism and gender equality is d reason for this disobedience.

Kagawa10:


Jesus' followers were more than 12! The apostles were 12 but his followers were over 300 which included Mary Magadlene and she was the first to see our Lord Jesus after his resurrection. As a matter of fact, Jesus' last word before his departure was "go ye to the world and preach the gospel"

So, who are you going to believe, Jesus or Paul? I'm only trying to justify some of Paul's speech seeing that he himself acknowledged that some times, he speaks without the spirit lead. Jesus is the author of every believer's faith and everything after all, not Paul!

Friendzone:
Paul was simply myopic


Sorry to say, but I don't think He was inspired by the Holy Spirit on this

omoplaycool:

The message Christ brought to man is very simple but man in its bid to manipulate it's fellow man tries to "mistify " it in order to make some certain few seem like the custodians of God's message and this isn't peculiar to the Christian faith alone. The message is simple..
LOVE THE LORD THY GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART WITH ALL YOUR MIGHT WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH AND LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF..
In my opinion, I think the church of today has more work (love) to do than to sit and debate if it's right for a woman to mount the pulpit or if she should wear trousers or not. Just love sincerely and every other thing will follow suit..
So Bro, I'd lead the way I LOVE YOU
GOD BLESS YOU
GOD BLESS OUR WOMEN
AND GOD BLESS NIGERIA