osuofia2:

ITS OBVIOUS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH.....THE MESSAGE IN THE QURAN IS CLEAR.....KILL ALL INFIDELS TAKE THEM NOT AS A FRIEND

ngolokante:
They are not gonna listen...I have developed a thick skin to the ravings of these people...only Allah can change their hearts...before I used to get demoralized by the antics of these people but when I understood that Allah as described their condition in His book and understood their plans, gimmicks and shenanigans, rather than get upset when they spew what is in their stomachs and exhibit the darkness of their souls, I just pity them

ladiesBOO:

you're still defending Islam and claiming is a religion of peace while nairaland is busy asking me if I'm a Muslim just for me to comment on a thread......I AM NOT and I CAN NEVER BE!!!.
If it's a religion of peace why will it compel you not to accept anybody that's not a Muslim?
why will your so called holy book regard non muslims as infidels(same line Boko Haram uses)

If we're talking about religion of peace, let's talk about a religion that accepts other religions, let's talk about a religion that won't tell you to kill a human being just because he's a pagan or Muslim, a religion that accommodates ppl, not the one that agrees that being violence is fulfilling the will of Allah......that Nigeria has this terrorism issue today is because of ISLAM.
OK, let's take for instance, Al shabab, ae Qaeda, Boko Haram and the host of other terrorist groups, how many of them are Christians, how many of them are muslims or even traditional worshippers?
I wouldn't like to generalize issues but a Muslim who is not a terrorist is only separated from being one by a cobweb.

yoros:
Lies lies lies, stop defending terrorist inducing passages of the Quran

TeamSimple:

You are also not a christian if you don't kill non believers , Homosexuals,socerers, disvirgined girls etc as written in the bible

keyanZuzer:
Awesome research work. Is that all you have to say?

BlueWizAngel:


Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 2 corinthians 6: 14

No much difference from the bible except I do not undastnd wat av been reading

Omudia11:
Couldn't disprove it. Islam is a terrorist religion. Argue with your ancestors.

win3k:


Deception, Lying and Taqiyya - Does Islam permit Muslims to lie?

Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to "smooth over differences."

There are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known being taqiyya. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

Quran
Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim should appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel that way..

Quran (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway. (The next verse refers only to those who have a personal agreement with Muhammad as individuals - see Ibn Kathir (vol 4, p 49)

Quran (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had to "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.

Quran (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.

Quran (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
Hadith and Sira
Sahih Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below).

Sahih Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

Sahih Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permitted in order to deceive an "enemy."

Sahih Muslim (32:6303) - "...he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them)."

Sahih Bukhari (50:369) - Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, at Muhammad's insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty to gain Ka'b's trust, pretending that they had turned against Muhammad. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered.

From Islamic Law:

Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) - "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression...

"One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie."
Notes
Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. There are two forms:

Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true as it relates to the Muslim identity.

Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind" while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."

Tawriya - Intentionally creating a false impression.

Muruna - 'Blending in' by setting aside some practices of Islam or Sharia in order to advance others.

ngolokante:


Hahahahaha!!!"An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32"...but when non Muslim apologists and preachers of hate deliberately quote and misconstrue verses of the Qur'an and skip the ones that does not appeal to their hate filled ideology its all fun and games to you ko?

yoros:
Lies lies lies, stop defending terrorist inducing passages of the Quran

uvalued:


yes true but we have a NEW TESTAMENT which have emphasized LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF and guess what we dont emphasis the above... oh do you want us to

uvalued:


yes true but we have a NEW TESTAMENT which have emphasized LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF F and guess what we dont emphasis the above... oh do you want us to

FactualSpeech:
It is funny that non Muslims like to quote the Qur'an out of context and whet the context or analysis is presented to them they still prefer to show their ignorance.
The funny thing is,if a verse of the Bible is quoted with similar statement they either say it is old testament or you cannot understand it without the spirit.
WHAT HYPOCRISY!!!
You can understand the Qur'an better without being a Muslim but a Muslim can't understand the Bible better without being a Christian.
Be fair to yourself for once!!

Mouthgag:

Very stupîd statement.
So the old testament is not part of the Bible again? Why didn't you people burn out old testament out when new testament came? That reminds me, your Jesus even said he came to fulfill the laws (old testament) and not to condemn it. But you silly hypocrites calling yourselves Christians today will only preach out the ones that suits your lifestyles from the Bible. And your yahoo boys pastors will never also stop using malachi to preach about tithes.
Nonsense!
Bloody hypocrites.

FactualSpeech:
I seem not to understand English any longer,someone please explain this for me



New International Version
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"
New Living Translation
And as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king--bring them in and execute them right here in front of me.'"
English Standard Version
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”
Berean Study Bible
And these enemies of mine who were unwilling for me to rule over them, bring them here and slay them in front of me.'"
Berean Literal Bible
Furthermore, these enemies of mine, those not having been willing for me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me.'"
New American Standard Bible
"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence."
King James Bible
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
But bring here these enemies of mine, who did not want me to rule over them, and slaughter them in my presence.'"
International Standard Version
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king—bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!'"
NET Bible
But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and slaughter them in front of me!'"
New Heart English Bible
But bring those enemies of mine who did not want me to reign over them here, and kill them before me.'"
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“However, those my enemies, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them and kill them in front of me.”
GOD'S WORD® Translation
Bring my enemies, who didn't want me to be their king. Kill them in front of me.'"
New American Standard 1977
“But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence.”
Jubilee Bible 2000
Moreover, those enemies of mine, who were unwilling that I should reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me.
King James 2000 Bible
But those my enemies, who would not that I should reign over them, bring here, and slay them before me.
American King James Version
But those my enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring here, and slay them before me.
American Standard Version
But these mine enemies, that would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Douay-Rheims Bible
But as for those my enemies, who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither, and kill them before me.
Darby Bible Translation
Moreover those mine enemies, who would not [have] me to reign over them, bring them here and slay [them] before me.
English Revised Version
Howbeit these mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Webster's Bible Translation
But those my enemies, who would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Weymouth New Testament
But as for those enemies of mine who were unwilling that I should become their king, bring them here, and cut them to pieces in my presence.'"
World English Bible
But bring those enemies of mine who didn't want me to reign over them here, and kill them before me.'"
Young's Literal Translation
but those my enemies, who did not wish me to reign over them, bring hither and slay before me.'

FactualSpeech:


your response was as expected.until those parts are removed from the Bible,we will both accept that Christianity preaches terrorism,simple and straightforward

uvalued:


wow you want me to obey the old testament to kill homos etc ? pls be honest about it since its in the old testament

FactualSpeech:
I seem not to understand English any longer,someone please explain this for me



New International Version
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"
New Living Translation
And as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king--bring them in and execute them right here in front of me.'"
English Standard Version
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”
Berean Study Bible
And these enemies of mine who were unwilling for me to rule over them, bring them here and slay them in front of me.'"
Berean Literal Bible
Furthermore, these enemies of mine, those not having been willing for me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me.'"
New American Standard Bible
"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence."
King James Bible
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
But bring here these enemies of mine, who did not want me to rule over them, and slaughter them in my presence.'"
International Standard Version
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king—bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!'"
NET Bible
But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and slaughter them in front of me!'"
New Heart English Bible
But bring those enemies of mine who did not want me to reign over them here, and kill them before me.'"
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“However, those my enemies, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them and kill them in front of me.”
GOD'S WORD® Translation
Bring my enemies, who didn't want me to be their king. Kill them in front of me.'"
New American Standard 1977
“But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence.”
Jubilee Bible 2000
Moreover, those enemies of mine, who were unwilling that I should reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me.
King James 2000 Bible
But those my enemies, who would not that I should reign over them, bring here, and slay them before me.
American King James Version
But those my enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring here, and slay them before me.
American Standard Version
But these mine enemies, that would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Douay-Rheims Bible
But as for those my enemies, who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither, and kill them before me.
Darby Bible Translation
Moreover those mine enemies, who would not [have] me to reign over them, bring them here and slay [them] before me.
English Revised Version
Howbeit these mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Webster's Bible Translation
But those my enemies, who would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Weymouth New Testament
But as for those enemies of mine who were unwilling that I should become their king, bring them here, and cut them to pieces in my presence.'"
World English Bible
But bring those enemies of mine who didn't want me to reign over them here, and kill them before me.'"
Young's Literal Translation
but those my enemies, who did not wish me to reign over them, bring hither and slay before me.'

taoheedoriloye:
I will never argue with Christians
1. Their religion have no base or root
2. Bibles contradict each.
3. Jesus Christ never read bible
4 Paul wrote 80% of bible
5. Read bible from A to Z , no place in it that is called bible. So who name it bible?
6 which of the bible am even talking about, king James version, goodnews or amplifier bible etc.
7 if you are jesus followers, how did jesus worship GOD ? And which church jesus was he the founder?

uvalued:

please which verse and chater

uvalued:


yes true but we have a NEW TESTAMENT which have emphasized LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF and guess what we dont emphasis the above... oh do you want us to

edited... we will urge them to have a.NEW editted koran expunging the following so that terrorists wont use the following claiming is allah words

FactualSpeech:


I am not surprised,so u can quote verses from the Quran to say it is propagating terrorism but anybody that point out same verse to you from the Bible is an idiot cos u av neva read that verse........Luke 19:27

In Oyedepo's voice
WHAT NONSENSE!!!
WHAT HYPOCRISY!!!