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Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 7:15pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Drabeey: If you don't mind add me on WhatsApp. I shall prove to you and convince you that Islam is the right way. You can ask your questions on the defects you alleged. |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 7:32pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Empiree: It is not a contradiction. Even Anti Christs bring their own version of the Bible. Most of the versions don't translate it well |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Empiree: 8:03pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Junia: 2 Likes |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Rilwayne001: 8:09pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Empiree:You go fear. Lol. |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 8:17pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Empiree: Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" Please have you done this before ?? Your so called prophet commands you people to do this. Or your imam didn't tell you 1 Like |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Auki: 8:17pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Junia: Christians are full of doubts and confusions about their religion. They have consensus on nothing. Ask He who created you to guide u. Anybody you call other than your creator will surely abandon you when you need the help the most. Worshipping Jesus in whatever form is manifest errors. |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 8:20pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Auki:To you bro We worship God (The Father, The Word and The Holy) God is a title for The Holy Trinity 1 Like |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Empiree: 8:30pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Junia:Stop derailing thread and focus |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Auki: 8:43pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Junia: My Dear. Your God and My God is One absolute God. He has no partner, son, wife, and nothing is like Him. Abraham, Noah, Jesus,Muhammad(peace be on them) all worship One God. Roman invented inserted such pagans idea -Trinity-into Christianity. Desist for He who created all things share divinity with none of his creatures. Jesus is a Human being but obediant servants of the lord and a messenger like other messengers. 1 Like |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 8:53pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Auki: Doesn't He become a false prophet to you people since He said He is one with The Father ?? He also said before Abraham was, He was. So do you still consider Him as a prophet ?? If Yes, then He is a false one to you people because of His words. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by onetrack(m): 9:16pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Atheist here. Also I have a history background (university). Jesus was one of several people in the early 1st century who claimed to be the Messiah--a god-sent individual who would rescue the Jews from the Romans and re-establish the kingdom of Israel. Cyrus the Persian 5 centuries earlier had liberated the Hebrews from Babylonian captivity and was honored with the title of Messiah as well. All of the self-proclaimed Messiahs of the 1st century met violent deaths, including Jesus, before they had the chance to drive the Romans out of Judea, a difficult prospect given the awesome power of the Romans at that time period. Jesus' disciples then had to face the reality that he was not the Messiah because he had simply been executed by the Romans without much fanfare. This resulted in cognitive dissonance: they could either admit that they had been following a faker, or reinvent the story of the Messiah. It appears that some of them chose the second option, which led to the creation of Christianity. You see, the early Christians simply changed the interpretation of what the Messiah would do. Instead of bringing about the kingdom of Israel on earth, his kingdom was actually not of this earth, and it was actually through his death that people would enter the heavenly kingdom of Israel. So instead of Jesus' death being the sign of just another failed Messiah, his death actually became the proof for his followers that he was the Messiah. Neat how they did that, isn't it? In order to convince pagans to accept the new religion, the early Christians had to add some miracles to Jesus' life (virgin birth, resurrection, etc), and also they had to make him vaguely god-like (Trinity), all of which was easily done in the days without video recorders. Voila! Christianity's origins. 13 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 10:11pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 10:13pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
FriendChoice: Bros, I've heard many sermons. Nothing has changed my belief that these people who are saying they are messiah up an down are fictional scams from the oyinbo people. I can also say im the messiah and nothing will happen. One thing i still cant fathom is my strong belief ther is God |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 10:14pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
truthmans2012: Somebody wrote that book my brother |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Seun(m): 10:15pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Drabeey:great! Yet... I do believe there is a supernatural beign overseeing everything. What can u say to me?Two things: (1) You're a deist. (2) Could you tell me what makes you believe in that there is a supernatural being overseeing everything? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 10:19pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Drabeey: Ok. But I hope you give me a chance. |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 10:31pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
sapientia: Magics are tricks. A B-grade David copperfield can perform those |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:39pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
onetrack: Ignorance is a mental disease indeed 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by felixomor: 10:44pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
onetrack: Bunkers. Ur confabulation does not even sound meaningful in your ears. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by MizMyColi(f): 10:45pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Seun: Sorry to rein in on your parade, But like many of us, if he's being deeply honest with himself.... He will tell you that there's really no "what" to it. It's just there. And no, it has nothing to do with some religious programming back in the day. You try to deny it and it's like you're denying your essence, your being. So more oft, you just go with the flow. Sometimes, this flow makes you appear religious, but again, between you and yourself, you know you aren't. It's like something beyond this world, beyond the things we see and materialize keeps pulling you. Well, the choice is yours. *runs out* 2 Likes |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 10:53pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Seun: Bros, all these things can't just come to be. Plus, every doctrine i have ever read about or heard points to a supernatural being, which to my own understanding is God |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Auki: 10:57pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
Seun: Miracles are done by Prophets as a sign from God for mankind. Magics are tricks by con men usually assisted by Jinns(Demon). Magic is lie and the deception. Jesus(Peace be on him) is far away from being a trickster or a con man. He is one of the elect, a prophet sent by God like Moses . |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:01pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
felixomor: It's very obvious they assure themselves they are mentally sane when obviously they are seriously deluded . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by felixomor: 11:16pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Absolutely. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by mustymatic(m): 11:33pm On Feb 23, 2017 |
truthmans2012:Alrighto |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Rockyrascal(m): 9:23am On Feb 24, 2017 |
FriendChoice:as a muslim,I will give you kudos for digging this out whether from the bible or any other source; do you know what the trinity is?I bet u don't and I don't either, Its a mystery. 1 Like |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 10:09am On Feb 24, 2017 |
Rockyrascal: To my own knowledge Trinity is 3 god in one God. 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 which is mathematically false 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Rockyrascal(m): 12:47pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
FriendChoice:that's to your own knowledge; I was made to understand that the trinity is GOd the father,the son and the holy spirit. As christians we are made to understand that we are in the era of the holy spirit. FriendChoice: To my own knowledge Trinity is 3 god in one God. 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 which is mathematically false 1 + 1 + 1 = 3that's to your own knowledge; I was made to understand that the trinity is GOd the father,the son and the holy spirit. As christians we are made to understand that we are in the era of the holy spirit. FriendChoice:that's to your own knowledge; I was made to understand that the trinity is GOd the father,the son and the holy spirit. As christians we are made to understand that we are in the era of the holy spirit. GENESIS 1:26 "and God said, let us make man in our own image and after our likeness" am not a good practising christian though. |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by luvmijeje(f): 1:05pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
At this time and age someone is still asking who's Jesus? Even the person who's born deaf, dumb and blind will dear not ask that question. But if OP had ask who's Jesus to you, I would have shut down this thread with my testimony of him. But to cut the long story short John 14:19 says A little while longer and the world will see me no more but you will see me. Because I live, you will live also But to you doubters, to you the unbelievers, to you the so called Christians who have not totally committed to him(the world), he's dead. Jesus himself has introduced himself to the world and to his followers. 1 Like |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by Nobody: 1:28pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
Rockyrascal: * Thank God you said: " I was made to believe " The word ‘trinity’ does not exist anywhere in the Bible. But it is there in the Qur’an in Chapter No. 4 Verse No. 171. it says “ Do not say trinity, desist stop it! It is better for you." Trinity is also there in Surah Maidah Chapter No.5, Verse No.73, which says: They are doing ‘ Kufr’ – They are blaspheming – those who say that Allah in 3 in one – Is a triune God. Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, never said he was God – The concept of trinity does not exist in the Bible. * The only verse which is closest to the concept of ‘trinity’ , is the 1st Epistle of John, Chapter No.5, Verse No.7, which says… For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the word and the holy ghost, and these 3 are one. But if you read the Revised Standard Version, revised by 32 Christian scholars, of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different co-operative denominations, they say… ‘This verse of the Bible – 1st Epistle of John, Chapter 5 Verse No.7 is an interpolation, is a concoction, is a fabrication’ – It was thrown out of the Bible. * Jesus Christ peace be upon him, never claimed Divinity . There is not a single unequivocal statement in the complete Bible, where Jesus Christ peace be upon him says… ‘I am God’ – or where he says… ‘Worship me’ . if you read the Bible, Jesus said: ‘My Father is greater than I. My Father is greater than all. I cast out devils with the spirit of God. And in John 5:30 "I can of my own self do nothing – As I hear, I judge and my judgement is just, for I seek not my own will, but the will of my Father.’ Anyone who says… ‘Not my will but God’s will’ – he is a Muslim. Muslim means the person who submits his’ will to almighty God. Jesus Christ peace be upon him said…‘Not my will but God’s will.’ He was a Muslim – and he was Alhamdulillah, one of the mightiest messengers of God. We believe. But he is not God, and he is not a part of the trinity.
This only mean let's create man and put a spirit or soul in him to survive. Even the Bible says God have no image and there is nothing like HIM. "Thou shalt have none other gods before [ me." "Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that in the earth beneath, or that is in the water beneath the earth." "Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God." [The Bible, Deuteronomy 5:7-9] And there is difference between a man and God. Luke 24:36 He says that: ‘Behold my hands and feet Handle me and see, for a spirit has no flesh and bones.’ John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by luvmijeje(f): 2:00pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
FriendChoice: Bros, kindly open a thread on this so that it will be easier to do a rejoinder thread. |
Re: Who Was Jesus? by JUDASiskariot: 4:36pm On Feb 24, 2017 |
FriendChoice: Is it hard for you to do that here? |
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