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Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by yashau(m): 9:38pm On Feb 23, 2017
South African Government has assured that it will continue to collaborate with major stakeholders in Nigeria to find lasting solution to xenophobic attack of Nigerians in South Africa.
The South African High Commissioner to Nigeria, Lulu Mnguni, gave the assurance on Thursday in Abuja when Sen. Shehu Sani, the Vice Chairman, Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs visited him.
Mnguni, who condemned recent attacks on foreigners, particularly Nigerians in South Africa, said there was need for the two countries to work together to bring an end to the problem.
According to him, it is important for Nigeria and South Africa to bring strategists to discuss the issues at stake to find appropriate solution.
He said “we will look for ways to contain the tension and come up with measures to encourage interaction between the two countries and other African nations.
“South Africa cannot stay as an island; instead, it will continue to work toward peace building and integration.”
The high commissioner added that the South African Government had always pushed for respect for human rights, stressing that there was no justification for the attacks.
He, however, urged foreigners to always abide by the laws of the countries where they live.
He said there were concerns among South Africans that a few foreigners, including Nigerians, were involved in drug peddling.
“We are not condoning violence, but it will be wrong not to reflect the concerns of South Africans, especially with regard to drug trafficking.
“We must not look at one side even though we are not condoning it. People must not take laws into their hands.
“When people go to other countries, they must respect the laws of the country,’’ he said.
He explained that a few foreigners involved in drug trafficking and other crimes were giving false impression of other people in South Africa.
He said that “in spite of this, the South African Government had benefited immensely from the economic activities of foreigners.
“There are foreigners, including many Nigerians that are law abiding and are contributing to the economic development of South Africa.
“However, there are few people who give wrong impression of foreigners.”
Earlier, Sani had expressed concern over recurring xenophobic attacks on Nigerians in South Africa. He said it would portray the continent in bad light if allowed to continue, adding that
it was time for major stakeholders to find a lasting solution to the problem.
He said “Nigeria’s relationship with South Africa dates back to the time of Apartheid.
“Nigeria is a major component in the struggle against apartheid.
“Should these attacks continue, relationship between the two countries might be weakened.
“The problem is a concern to the whole of Africa because the two countries are respected global players.”
Sani also expressed concern that the attacks were perpetrated by a few persons whose actions did not reflect the position of the South African Government, in view of its bilateral relations with Nigeria.
The lawmaker urged aggrieved Nigerians who were protesting the attacks to do so within the confines of the law, as the two countries fashioned out ways to tackle the problem.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/02/xenophobia-nigerians-involvement-drug-peddling-break-south-african-law-south-african-commissioner/

Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by eezeribe(m): 9:39pm On Feb 23, 2017
OK
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by yashau(m): 9:45pm On Feb 23, 2017
na wa ooo,just because of some bad eggs our name keeps diminished.
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by whitebeard(m): 9:46pm On Feb 23, 2017
so south Africans don't push drug abi
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by samincredible44(m): 9:49pm On Feb 23, 2017
south africans are dumb people.is dia no drug peddling in America and mexico but do dy go ahead to kill foreigners

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Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Horus(m): 9:51pm On Feb 23, 2017
'Leave South Africa Or We Kill You All' - SA Hate Group Threaten Nigerians

A hate group on Facebook has vowed to make sure Nigerians leave South Africa or they would all be killed.

Not yet satisfied with their xenophobic attacks on Nigerians and their businesses in South Africa, some extremist youths have gone ahead to threaten to kill Nigerians if they refuse to leave their country.

They have gone ahead to create a Facebook group called 'Get Nigerian Drug Dealers out of SA' and in just a few days, the group has gathered over 5,000 members and they all want one thing: to force Nigerians out of their country by all means.

All the members preach hatred for Nigerians whom they see as drug lords, scammers, kidnappers, armed robbers and the one corrupting their women who have now turned to prostitution at the behest of the Nigerians.

A post by the administrator of the group tells it all and they are all up in arms against Nigerians.

Read the post here:

"The Nigerian drug lords need to be run out of town; they are slowing creeping into other suburbs... A friend last night found a group of them selling their 'wares' on a pavement opposite her house.

She took photos of the scene and send it to the SAPS WhatsApp. They claimed that the Ford Focus was broken down and they were waiting for the tow truck. She stated that if that was indeed the case, then, they would not mind her taking photos of activities.

The men verbally abused her. Despite them trying to mishandle her physically, she captured the photos of the Nigerians drinking from the boots of their cars etc.

She persisted and stated that she was going to publish the photos...in seconds they 'escaped' from the scene; even the Ford Focus that was waiting for a tow truck.

Nigerians are criminals and they are living on borrowed time.

Let's start a campaign - #Nigeriancriminals must FALL."

Source: http://pulse.ng/gist/leave-or-we-kill-you-all-sa-hate-group-threaten-nigerians-id6263237.html
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Biafman: 9:57pm On Feb 23, 2017
yashau:

He, however, urged foreigners to always abide by the laws of the countries where they live.
He said there were concerns among South Africans that a few foreigners, including Nigerians, were involved in drug peddling.
“We are not condoning violence, but it will be wrong not to reflect the concerns of South Africans, especially with regard to drug trafficking.
“We must not look at one side even though we are not condoning it. People must not take laws into their hands.
“When people go to other countries, they must respect the laws of the country,’’ he said.
Idiot ambassador, when people do not respect your laws, it's no justification to kill them, rather you arrest them, judge them according to your laws concerning their offence and then jail them accordingly if they are found guilty. Mr Ambassador, you are proving to be more of an idiot by insinuating what i quoted you above.
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by aljharem(m): 9:58pm On Feb 23, 2017
People for the yeast please stop drugs

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Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 10:07pm On Feb 23, 2017
samincredible44:
south africans are dumb people.is dia no drug peddling in America and mexico but do dy go ahead to kill foreigners

If you were smart yourself, you would have taken a mental note of the part that says the attacks were perpetrated by A FEW South Africans. Even in reference to Nigerian criminals, "a few", is a word choice they used. So kindly refrain from using generalising terms when referring to an entire country with a population of 53 million individuals with different mindsets, to avoid exposing your own dumbness.

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Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Charles4075(m): 10:16pm On Feb 23, 2017
I don't even know what to say or type self. Nigerians over there should come back and wait for the issue to be resolved diplomatically. Then after resolving the issue, they can return back. Though we should try and obey their laws over there. This bad name is enough na.

And the S.A security personnels should be watchful and active. If any Nigerian or foreigner is caught, then arrest him or her, jail him and let him serve his time.

The killing is a No No and it won't solve the problem at hand now.

I just tire for this kind news everyday self.

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Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 6:08am On Feb 24, 2017

Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 7:18am On Feb 24, 2017
Have they been caught with drugs?Why are sa looting shops of immigrants who are doing legitimate businesses?Is that not breakdown of law by SA as well?
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by babyfaceafrica: 7:20am On Feb 24, 2017
48 hrs ,dey wee hear from Nigerian students....I just dey look this ambassador
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 7:23am On Feb 24, 2017
Foolish people
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 7:27am On Feb 24, 2017
Inasmuch as i commiserate with the dead Nigerians in SA, I can't totally blame South Africans for turning on us.

I only wish they could improve their immigration laws to include death penalty for anyone who smuggles drugs across their borders.

They need to learn from Indonesia and Malaysia.

Otherwise, South Africa will be worse than Colombia and Mexico in drug related crimes.
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 7:29am On Feb 24, 2017
ZarZar:


If you were smart yourself, you would have taken a mental note of the part that says the attacks were perpetrated by A FEW South Africans. Even in reference to Nigerian criminals, "a few", is a word choice they used. So kindly refrain from using generalising terms when referring to an entire country with a population of 53 million individuals with different mindsets, to avoid exposing your own dumbness.

Are you South African?
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 7:35am On Feb 24, 2017
Ioannes:


Are you South African?

Yes.
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 7:42am On Feb 24, 2017
ZarZar:


Yes.


Thought as much. smiley

And yes you're right, all inclusive speech shouldn't be used here. After all only a few South Africans are participating in this orgy of killings.

But then again, how are we sure they aren't just projecting the mindset that MOST South Africans have towards foreigners and Nigerians in particular.

Just like an average white would claim he's not racist and probably won't take part in lynching a black fellow, but inside his heart of hearts despises them.
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by darknetcom: 7:45am On Feb 24, 2017
this i agree..

but its the job of the police to arrest and jail them or deport them all back to nigeria..

not killing them on the streets...

we know the problem..

thats why we created the ncan to abuse them day and night...
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 7:54am On Feb 24, 2017
Ioannes:


Thought as much. smiley

And yes you're right, all inclusive speech shouldn't be used here. After all only a few South Africans are participating in this orgy of killings.

But then again, how are we sure they aren't just projecting the mindset that MOST South Africans have towards foreigners and Nigerians in particular.

Just like an average white would claim he's not racist and probably won't take part in lynching a black fellow, but inside his heart of hearts despises them.

Look, I won't lie & say majority of South Africans don't have issues with Nigerians but I doubt many would choose to settle out those differences with violence. TBH, many wish the South African government would stop issuing visas to Nigerian citizens. However, regarding xenophobia, look at South Africa as a family or any household. Every single family out there has black sheep, that have a totally different way of going about things from the rest of the family. That's all there is to it. No two siblings are the same, even when they grew up under one roof. We're still different people with different temperaments at the end of the day.

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Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 10:56am On Feb 24, 2017
ZarZar:


Look, I won't lie & say majority of South Africans don't have issues with Nigerians but I doubt many would choose to settle out those differences with violence. TBH, many wish the South African government would stop issuing visas to Nigerian citizens. However, regarding xenophobia, look at South Africa as a family or any household. Every single family out there has black sheep, that have a totally different way of going about things from the rest of the family. That's all there is to it. No two siblings are the same, even when they grew up under one roof. We're still different people with different temperaments at the end of the day.

You're right and I agree with you.

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Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by morpheus24: 11:09am On Feb 24, 2017
ZarZar:


Look, I won't lie & say majority of South Africans don't have issues with Nigerians but I doubt many would choose to settle out those differences with violence. TBH, many wish the South African government would stop issuing visas to Nigerian citizens. However, regarding xenophobia, look at South Africa as a family or any household. Every single family out there has black sheep, that have a totally different way of going about things from the rest of the family. That's all there is to it. No two siblings are the same, even when they grew up under one roof. We're still different people with different temperaments at the end of the day.

A majority of South Africans have issues with foreign nationals in general, that is a true statement
A minority of South Africans wish to use violence to intimidate and get their point across as historically this is a tactic that has been used to achieve results.
South Africans in general are not clear on what the majority issues are that they have with foreign nationals in "GENERAL".
Is it the fact that these foreigners are illegal/undocumented,
Is the the fact that they are competing for limited resources and job opportunities,
is it that fact that businesses are hiring cheap labor supplied by legal or illegal immigrants,
Is it that they are involved in illicit and criminal activity or is it all of the above?

Your government needs to clarify the issue they have to the international community and articulate that to the world so we are sympathetic of the plight you are experiencing and come to consensus of what needs to be done.

If you cannot handle the commitments you have made to acceptance of refugees, asylum seekers, economic migrants and expats from black African nations then please articulate this the international community, expel them peacefully, close down your embassies in these nations, stop issues permits and visas and isolate yourselfs from the world as you did during the Apatheid era and let it be know officially that you want to be left alone.

Shikena!
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 11:28am On Feb 24, 2017
morpheus24:


A majority of South Africans have issues with foreign nationals in general, that is a true statement
A minority of South Africans wish to use violence to intimidate and get their point across as historically this is a tactic that has been used to achieve results.
South Africans in general are not clear on what the majority issues are that they have with foreign nationals in "GENERAL".
Is it the fact that these foreigners are illegal/undocumented,
Is the the fact that they are competing for limited resources and job opportunities,
is it that fact that businesses are hiring cheap labor supplied by legal or illegal immigrants,
Is it that they are involved in illicit and criminal activity or is it all of the above?

Your government needs to clarify the issue they have to the international community and articulate that to the world so we are sympathetic of the plight you are experiencing and come to consensus of what needs to be done.

If you cannot handle the commitments you have made to acceptance of refugees, asylum seekers, economic migrants and expats from black African nations then please articulate this the international community, expel them peacefully, close down your embassies in these nations, stop issues permits and visas and isolate yourselfs from the world as you did during the Apatheid era and let it be know officially that you want to be left alone.

Shikena!

All the things you mentioned, yes. Plus the filth some create wherever they reside. I actually predicted the current events in Pretoria-west (where it all started this time around) to a friend in early January. That place is no longer what it used to be & the residents were complaining when I was there in December. It's littered with scrapyards & dirt. Many reputable companies that were operating in that area have since closed shop & moved. People are also selling their homes or renting them out to the same foreigners, because they just don't wanna be living amidst them & the unsanitary conditions they've created.

The thing is, as much as the average South African would love to limit the number of foreigners entering the country, it is simply not their call to make, it's the government's. Which is where the problem lies because the govt. is not going to stop allowing people from other countries from entering the country, if it creates good relations or whatever they're gaining out of it, in the interest of South Africa. Yes, some of us are not looking at the bigger picture here & are just being irrational. My only wish is if they do a complete background check or whatever, to make sure that whomever is coming into the country, is doing so to be a productive member of society. However, that is not the case at the moment. It's like every scumbag from all walks of life is given free access to add to the issues we already have with our own scumbags. You see how this becomes a pressure cooker to the man on the ground? Because govt. officials don't run in the same circles as the people they let into the country, but us, average South Africans, have to live with the consequences of their careless selection. Oh & btw, I mentioned Nigerians because that is the question that guy asked me. He singled out his people, which is understandable so I gave my answer in context of how the question was phrased.
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by morpheus24: 11:55am On Feb 24, 2017
ZarZar:


All the things you mentioned, yes. The thing is, as much as the average South African would love to limit the number of foreigners entering the country, it is simply not their call to make, it's the government's. Which is where the problem lies because the govt. is not going to stop allowing people from other countries from entering the country, if it creates good relations or whatever they're gaining out of it, in the interest of South

South Africa is a practicing democracy, it is their call! you cannot claim your government is the one allowing people into the country. The laws that govern your country which the people have cosigned to is what permits many categories of foreigners to enter, visit, reside or work in the country. If a majority of the people are displeased with certain types or categories of foreign nationals then go back to your representatives and force them to change the laws or withdraw from any commitments they have made concerning these issues. Botswana is well know to have done this, you can follow suite.

You then have to clarify what foreigners you are speaking about that you want to limit. There are European and Asian foreigners so called "expats" who are economic migrants as well who enter the country and take jobs from locals, I don't see any rallies mentioning these particular types of foreigners. They buy up properties, conduct business activities and even engage in criminal activity as well. Some of them are from Europe and Asia. No mention of them at all.

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ZarZar:

Africa. Yes, some of us are not looking at the bigger picture here & are just being irrational. My only wish is if they do a complete background check or whatever, to make sure that whomever is coming into the country, is doing so to be a productive member of society. However, that is not the case at the moment. It's like every scumbag from all walks of life is given free access to add to the issues we already have with our own scumbags. You see how this becomes a pressure cooker to the man on the ground? Because govt. officials don't run in the same circles as the people they let into the country, but us, average South Africans, have to live with the consequences of their careless selection. Oh & btw, I mentioned Nigerians because that is the question that guy asked me. He singled out his people, which is understandable so I gave my answer in context of how the question was phrased.

Most foreign nationals black, white and Asian contribute positively to the country, They pay taxes, buy products, rent houses, open businessess and conduct most of their activity within the country legally, what ever is left over they may repatriate back to their countries if they wish to or re-invest back into the country.

A minority group of foreign nationals including Nigerians are nuisances to the economy and must be sort out, convicted if found to be criminals, deported if warranted.


Now the issue I have is in the narratives of government officials and so called South African communites as regards these foreign nationals living amongst them. It is skewed. There is an undeniable sense of anger, jealousy, contempt and irritation which ultimately leads to violent acts that are perpetrated by South Africans which have nothing to do with criminal activity by some foreign nationals but a frustration of their economic situations which they cannot seem to figure out how to get out of by themselves irrespective of foreign nationals in their mists.

You act as if there are no South African criminals and these Nyaope boys are some how lured into becoming drug addicts. These problems existed before the entry of drug peddlers and will exist long after. I dare to say if you do take out every single foreign national out of the country you will find some other issue to blame for the failures of your government. IF these nationals leave then what are you going to do with the vacated areas? Change the narrative!
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 12:23pm On Feb 24, 2017
morpheus24:


South Africa is a practicing democracy, it is their call! you cannot claim your government is the one allowing people into the country. The laws that govern your country which the people have cosigned to is what permits many categories of foreigners to enter, visit, reside or work in the country. If a majority of the people are displeased with certain types or categories of foreign nationals then go back to your representatives and force them to change the laws or withdraw from any commitments they have made concerning these issues. Botswana is well know to have done this, you can follow suite.

You then have to clarify what foreigners you are speaking about that you want to limit. There are European and Asian foreigners so called "expats" who are economic migrants as well who enter the country and take jobs from locals, I don't see any rallies mentioning these particular types of foreigners. They buy up properties, conduct business activities and even engage in criminal activity as well. Some of them are from Europe and Asia. No mention of them at all.

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Most foreign nationals black, white and Asian contribute positively to the country, They pay taxes, buy products, rent houses, open businessess and conduct most of their activity within the country legally, what ever is left over they may repatriate back to their countries if they wish to or re-invest back into the country.

A minority group of foreign nationals including Nigerians are nuisances to the economy and must be sort out, convicted if found to be criminals, deported if warranted.


Now the issue I have is in the narratives of government officials and so called South African communites as regards these foreign nationals living amongst them. It is skewed. There is an undeniable sense of anger, jealousy, contempt and irritation which ultimately leads to violent acts that are perpetrated by South Africans which have nothing to do with criminal activity by some foreign nationals but a frustration of their economic situations which they cannot seem to figure out how to get out of by themselves irrespective of foreign nationals in their mists.

You act as if there are no South African criminals and these Nyaope boys are some how lured into becoming drug addicts. These problems existed before the entry of drug peddlers and will exist long after. I dare to say if you do take out every single foreign national out of the country you will find some other issue to blame for the failures of your government. IF these nationals leave then what are you going to do with the vacated areas? Change the narrative!

LOL @ the last paragraph. Refer to my post because one thing as a South African I am not, is to deny the issues of my country. I'm a realist. Your post is too long, so I'm not going to address every issue & question as if I'm writing an exam or I'm in court for a crime. I'll be short because for one I'm not guilty as a person & two, I don't owe you any explanations on a crime I didn't commit. What I'll tell you though is, these attacks are not only limited to African immigrants but to Asians as well, especially those who set up shop in black communities. Like I said in my other post, the pressure of these issues is taken out on those they can reach out
to 1st. Meaning, the people they share communities with because it's in those communities where people start noticing stuff & the whole thing builds up. If this explanation doesn't give you clarity then hey, as I can't exactly know what goes on in the minds of people who perpetrate these kind of crimes. I'm not a psychologist, a politician, an economist or a human relations expert, so I can't give you a more in-depth perspective on all this more than the one I just gave.
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 12:47pm On Feb 24, 2017
On a surface level 'DRUGS' are seen to be so much HARMFUL to the society. On a substance level, 'ALCOHOL' is much more HARMFUL but well embraced and celebrated by the society. This tells how not EMPRICAL the human society functions. Or is it all HYPOCRISY? If we must ban 'DRUGS' we must ban 'ALCOHOL' too which is THE DEVIL . I HOPE DONALD TRUMP IS DOING SOME THING ABOUT THIS. Trump knows better after losing his brother to the evil of 'ALCOHOL'.

Though its about South Africa. My bringing in Trump is because unless AMERICA starts to being a RESPONSIBLE COUNTRY that values human lives and stop being a ROUGE nation. The world will keep living in CHAOS.
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 12:55pm On Feb 24, 2017
WORDWORLD:
On a surface level 'DRUGS' are seen to be so much HARMFUL to the society. On a substance level, 'ALCOHOL' is much more HARMFUL by well embraced and celebrated by the society. This tells how not EMPRICAL the human society functions. Or is it all HYPOCRISY? If we must ban 'DRUGS' we must ban 'ALCOHOL' too. I HOPE DONALD TRUMP IS DOING SOME THING ABOUT THIS. Trump knows better after losing his brother to the evil of 'ALCOHOL'.

Though its about South Africa. My bring in Trump is because unless AMERICA starts to beings a RESPONSIBLE COUNTRY that values human lives and stop being a ROUGE nation. The world will keep living in CHAOS.

No, the two are not comparable by any stretch of imagination. Hence one is illegal & one is not. The lengths people go in the name of getting their next hit is scary. Some have even started breaking into houses just to steal LCD screen TVs because apparently there's something in there that they crush & mix with other things to get the desired effect. It's gone completely out of hand, the drug issue over here. And I believe it's what makes some of them volatile, unfeeling + violent.
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by morpheus24: 1:02pm On Feb 24, 2017
WORDWORLD:
On a surface level 'DRUGS' are seen to be so much HARMFUL to the society. On a substance level, 'ALCOHOL' is much more HARMFUL but well embraced and celebrated by the society. This tells how not EMPRICAL the human society functions. Or is it all HYPOCRISY? If we must ban 'DRUGS' we must ban 'ALCOHOL' too which is THE DEVIL . I HOPE DONALD TRUMP IS DOING SOME THING ABOUT THIS. Trump knows better after losing his brother to the evil of 'ALCOHOL'.

Though its about South Africa. My bringing in Trump is because unless AMERICA starts to being a RESPONSIBLE COUNTRY that values human lives and stop being a ROUGE nation. The world will keep living in CHAOS.

You are very incoherent in your response and your logic is all over the place.

1. In respect to the subject matter, no one is talkinga bout BANNING drugs, they are focused at stopping its use. The drugs are not legally used in the first place.

2. The comment about Trump and his brother is totally irrelevant and I don't know how it fits into the situation.

3. There is no correlation with drugs in America and South Africa. There is one with illegal immigration relating to both countries
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by morpheus24: 1:07pm On Feb 24, 2017
ZarZar:


LOL @ the last paragraph. Refer to my post because one thing as a South African I am not, is to deny the issues of my country. I'm a realist. Your post is too long, so I'm not going to address every issue & question as if I'm writing an exam or I'm in court for a crime. I'll be short because for one I'm not guilty as a person & two, I don't owe you any explanations on a crime I didn't commit. What I'll tell you though is, these attacks are not only limited to African immigrants but to Asians as well, especially those who set up shop in black communities. Like I said in my other post, the pressure of these issues is taken out on those they can reach out
to 1st. Meaning, the people they share communities with because it's in those communities where people start noticing stuff & the whole thing builds up. If this explanation doesn't give you clarity then hey, as I can't exactly know what goes on in the minds of people who perpetrate these kind of crimes. I'm not a psychologist, a politician, an economist or a human relations expert, so I can't give you a more in-depth perspective on all this more than the one I just gave.

1.So the issue is then Xenophobic because there is a perceived "FEAR" of foreign nationals you "SEE" versus the ones you cannot reach.

2. So you've addressed the Pakistani Asians, how about the Chinese or the European variety. Why do you not storm their neighbourhoods?

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Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 1:12pm On Feb 24, 2017
ZarZar:


No, the two are not comparable by any stretch of imagination. Hence one is illegal & one is not. The lengths people go in the name of getting their next hit is scary. Some have even started breaking into houses just to steal LCD screen TVs because apparently there's something in there that they crush & mix with other things to get the desired effect. It's gone completely out of hand, the drug issue over here. And I believe it's what makes some of them volatile, unfeeling + violent.

I wont want to turn this into an ARGUMENT. What i must tell you is this. A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE NO MEANING IN THE LIFE THAT THEY ARE LIVING. That is the world today. IN TOTAL CHAOS, VERY SENSELESS!!!. ALL BECAUSE OF GREED. ITS A WORLD THAT HAS LOST SPIRITUALITY AND GAINED MATERIALISM AT EVERYONES DETERIMENT. Consumerist culture.
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 1:20pm On Feb 24, 2017
morpheus24:


You are very incoherent in your response and your logic is all over the place.

1. In respect to the subject matter, no one is talkinga bout BANNING drugs, they are focused at stopping its use. The drugs are not legally used in the first place.

2. The comment about Trump and his brother is totally irrelevant and I don't know how it fits into the situation.

3. There is no correlation with drugs in America and South Africa. There is one with illegal immigration relating to both countries


Thank you for taking your time. I truely appreciate. Your opinion its being taken note of.

PEOPLE READ TO RELPY AND NOT TO UNDERSTAND. YOU ARE ONE OF SUCH PEOPLE.

1. Oh so the want to STOP its use but not BAN it.

2. I made it clear why i talked about Trump.

3. ?
Re: Xenophobia: Nigerians Involvement In Drug Peddling Is A Break Of Our Law-mnguni by Nobody: 2:44pm On Feb 24, 2017
morpheus24:


1.So the issue is then Xenophobic because there is a perceived "FEAR" of foreign nationals you "SEE" versus the ones you cannot reach.

2. So you've addressed the Pakistani Asians, how about the Chinese or the European variety. Why do you not storm their neighbourhoods?


I said nothing about "fear". I said the issues in our community sometimes reach a boiling point & the people attack those they perceive to be the root of the problem. Again, they attack the people they live with so to speak. Personally, I don't think the South African issue is xenophobic, more than it is frustration mixed with social ills that the govt. is not addressing quick enough. However, I'm not an expert so if whatever is happening qualifies as xenophobia, then xenophobia it is. Btw, everybody knows that Chinese keep to themselves so they rarely become targets because they don't mix with everybody but other Chinese nationals. Chinese are not trouble makers by nature, so the only loss most of them incur, almost weekly, are robberies. They're also aware that it comes with the package of living in a crime infested society because they rarely make noise about it.

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