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Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by Horus(m): 11:54pm On Dec 14, 2009 |
All pastor are FAKE, they carry with them a FAKE book called The Bible and The Bible is the first pornographic book in history. |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by TV01(m): 12:23am On Dec 15, 2009 |
noetic15: Sorry sir, doctrine is not dereived on a "makes sense" basis or based on a "strong argument" - be that on the seeming merits of the case, or the force with which it is made. noetic15:At best. But if properly understood, one would realise it misses the point - so much so as to be pointless. noetic15: Perhaps one of the biggest errors/untruths in Christendom. The gospel does not require money to spread. Although, religious - or any - organisations require money in order to survive, grow and dominate. Needless to say, the error above is to a great extent supported by and tied too the deceptive teaching around tithing. God bless TV |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by noetic15(m): 12:45am On Dec 15, 2009 |
TV01: This is irrelevantly dogmatic. Tithing is biblical. . . , and there are also biblical precedents. The bone of contention is whether or not tithing is a compulsory injunction. No its not. . .but does that make tithing criminal. . .NO. At best. But if properly understood, one would realise it misses the point - so much so as to be pointless. on what basis is the above made? Tithing by Abraham reflects honour to God. is honouring God now a pointless venture?
You have no understanding of the inherent truths in xtianity or a relationship with God. There is nothing that u have that should be so scared for u, that u cannot honour God with. That explains why God demanded Isaac for sacrifice and Abraham obliged. Tithing remains optional. . . , but all saints MUST honour God with all that they have. |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by KunleOshob(m): 8:42am On Dec 15, 2009 |
KunleOshob: noetic15:My brother in case you didn't notice the ones i described as fake are those that preach tithing as compulsary and not all pastors that preach it. I agree with you it is an optional thing and all genuine pastors must preach it as that if at all. |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by Tonyet1(m): 10:26am On Dec 15, 2009 |
KunleOshob: Hmmm i see , by teaching and believing in the GNOSTIC DOCTRINES interesting. you need some foundational class Mr.Kunleoshod i just pray you know the implications of your desperations and inclinations to the gnostic faith and teaching and before you spread that disease on innocent christians here let me remind you Gal 1:8 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by Tonyet1(m): 10:28am On Dec 15, 2009 |
noetic15: Wisdom! |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by Explosive(m): 1:20pm On Dec 15, 2009 |
@Tonye t. Am not kunle or wat is his name. Did u read d passages i gave u. Ok, if obama doesn't tally wit d scriptures, then who is d beast that came 4rm d earth. Every one here said wat their view was, even if any1 is wrong, u shuldnt make it out like an argument. U protray ur view agressive like. U had no rite 2 call me a false christian. This is my view, i wasnt forcing u 2 blif. U still havnt answerd my question. By d way its pillar of fire not flame of fire- u shuld know dat. In rev, woman means a church. It a book of symbols. |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by Tonyet1(m): 5:42pm On Dec 15, 2009 |
Explosive: I never said you're KunleOshod, i only compared the two, see the quote again goosh, i think i have just found myself another KunleOshod - peeps who just lift passages and make baseless ascertions, lest u misinform peeps here let me correct your wrong assumption 1. About the beast, i'll rather suggest you create a topic on that so we can discuss that better k?, lest we divert from the topic at hand 2. Are you sure you read that line again about false xtian 3. Flame of fire make up a pillar 4. I chose to correct your notion , lest peeps here end up believing the wrong thing 5. If woman means the church like you said, therefore dont u think the "church should keep silent in the church" hmmm i laugh again! |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by Explosive(m): 9:32am On Dec 16, 2009 |
@Tonyet. He dat has an ear, I said only in REVELATION church means a woman, u really dnt know anytin bout Obama, do u? U really havnt seen d pillar of fire and u really think wat my view 2 dis topic is wrong. Wat if am right, i wnt u 2 remember every word i have written here. By d way, u still havnt answrd my question, how many church ages are there. Infact, wat is a church age. U really are a nice debator. Will be waitin 4 ur reply. |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by Nobody: 12:57pm On Dec 16, 2009 |
Horus: They are pretty much all fake. what's there to find out or to know? Just look at them, and tell urself they r all fake!! |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by TV01(m): 2:46pm On Dec 16, 2009 |
noetic15: Biblical meaning what? That it is contained within the scriptural narrative and therefore, acceptable, good or binding? There are precedents for many things in the bible. Per your use of the word "Biblical" and my response above, what exactly is your point? Their is no bone of contention. Tithing is not compulsory, but it is of course permissable. Little more than a cursory grasp of scripture will show that it is not a NT notion and rather pointless as a practise, superseeded as it were by something much more glorious. Not sinful, not criminal, but at best lacking true insight. However the way it is sometimes peddled as compulsory with curses for failure to comply certainly is. noetic15: Before Abraham was, He was. Another twist? Tithing is now a matter of honouring God? Biblical abi? noetic15: So a Christian relationship with God is about honouring Him with your worldly possessions? So honour = tithing = Gods demand for sacrifice? A compulsory 10% maybe a sacrifice, but it is not an honour to the almighty. An optional 10% may well be, but so would an optional 9% or 11%. As a one-off, frequently, infrequently. Can God be honoured without a tithe or without giving material things to Him? noetic15: Small, small. The saints of God, the disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ have nothing they call their own. As its all held in trust. Everything is His. As you learn to know, hear, and trust Him, you'll know where, when, to whom and on what to spend that entrusted in your care. I pray you are not bound, either by compulsion or option. He came to set the captives free. God bless TV |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by noetic15(m): 3:05pm On Dec 16, 2009 |
TV01: The above is of no relevance to this discourse. Before Abraham was, He was.I did not expect u to understand the implications of my assertions. So a Christian relationship with God is about honouring Him with your worldly possessions? is this dude confused? go and read what I wrote again.
The above has no bearing in ur daily honour to God as a saint of God. |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by Tonyet1(m): 10:47am On Dec 17, 2009 |
Mr.Noetic15, Allow me to answer this bro (TV01) for you!. TV01: If one should say such, therefore i stand to say that mercy is not compulsory, faithfulness aint compulsory likewise justice too, for the same LORD of the trio(mercy, justice, faithfulness)a command made the quad (tithe) a command too. Matt.23:23 - " Practise mercy, practise faithfulness and again i say practise Justice and also do not neglect to practise tithe (hebrew-english paraphraased version) Yeah though i do not believe in forcing peeps to keep God's word, but aint that scripture up here more of a command than a suggestion, for if you should say tithing aint compulsory then i'll mean you're saying tithing is only a suggestion. Remember God's words are commands!. TV01: [font=trebuchet ms ] did you say it was never a NT notion, whatever happened to Jesus' word in Matt.23:23, whatever happened to Paul's command in 1cor.16:2. hmmmm interesting! maybe a NT proof of yours will do. Pls also remember that even while the early church all inclined towards the edifice of the spiritual man (the liberated man), they also dwelt in man-made assemblies where widows, orphans, deacons, cleargies of all sorts and bishops and their needs were to be administered to.[/font] TV01: The curses for failure were all doneaway with the death of Jesus which fulfilled the law of Moses, for moses and his laws came with punishments for failure the law, while Jesus and the newness of his reign came with grace to help us keep God's law. TV01: Mr.TV01 i stand to say YES, na wa o, how do christians even read there bibles sef. how else should one give God honor, let me teach you, ur prayer, praise and worship, preaching, evangelism, living are only a quota of our honor to God, howbeit it is of Man's duty to give God honor with everything we are, we have, we can. let me quote a scripture to bring a rememberance to you Prov 3:9-10 9 Honor the LORD with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your increase; 10 then your storehouse will be filled to overflowing, and your vats will brim over with new wine. NIV now TV01 doesnt this scripture sound like one way we can honour God is through giving him what we own? and lest you forget or maybe you've not read my thread on tithing, the practise of giving God our firstfruit is called "THE BIKKURIM MA'ASER" meaning giving God a portion of our firstfruit. You can read more if you so mind. The relevance of Tithe |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by KunleOshob(m): 10:54am On Dec 17, 2009 |
Tonye-t: classical example of scriptural manipulation by a fake pastor |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by Tonyet1(m): 10:58am On Dec 17, 2009 |
Explosive: 1. So how does the symbolic woman in relevation concerns the objective woman in Galatians whereever? sorry to say, but you seem too confused. one moment you're saying somethin and the next min. you're off da hook. 2. The only thing i know about OBAMA is that he is the first black president of the United states of America. who symbolically represent the PARADIGM SHIFT of the two nations who struggled in Rebecchar's womb. (different from what you thought right?) 3. Pillar of Fire i see in the night sky, the Pillar of cloud i see in the dawning morn. , and the last time i remembered Pillar of Fire, i was told it followed the Israelites from Egypt thru' the Jordan river. representing God's angelic presence. do you want a scripture? 4. Did you ask me the question about the CHURCH AGE. even a google to Wikipedia.org will answer the question, so why bother. |
Re: How To Know A Fake Pastor In 5min by Tonyet1(m): 11:00am On Dec 17, 2009 |
KunleOshob: Ok, so stand up and challenge it, i dare you! or forever remain silent. i didnt say so, the jury did |
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