According to Hebrew 9:22, without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sins. Yet in 2nd Chronicles 7:14, God Almighty says as follows: “If My people, who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will FORGIVE THEIR SINS and will heal their land.”. Again in Isaiah 55:7,God Almighty declares; let the wicked forsake their ways and the unrighteous their thought. Let them turn to the LORD; He will have mercy on them, and to our God, for he will FREELY PARDON. Furthermore, in Ezekiel 33: 10-16, God says; “Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone one who is wicked REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then turn from their sins and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--that person will surely live: they will not die. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them. They have done what is just and right; they will surely live”. You can see that God did not ask the wicked sinners to shed any blood before their sins can be forgiven in all these verses. What He actually wants from them is sincere repentance from their sinful ways. Christians generally insist that the absolute need for vicarious blood sacrifice is rooted in the Torah, and cite as proof Leviticus 17:11 which says: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.” But does this verse clearly teaches that blood is the ONLY means God has provided to make atonement? Certainly not! In the Torah, blood sacrifices were not the only path to atonement; there were other ways to achieve forgiveness. For example, INCENSE was served to atone for the people in Numbers 16:46-47. Again, GIVING CHARITY is described in Exodus 30:15-16 and Numbers 31:50 as "MAKING ATONEMENT FOR YOUR SOUL"– the same expression used in Leviticus 17:11. In fact, King Solomon prophesied that the Jewish people would earn forgiveness for their sins in the land of their enemies by sincere repentance and prayer where they could not have access to blood atonement sacrifices; "If they RETURN TO YOU WITH ALL THEIR HEART AND WITH ALL THEIR SOUL in the land of their enemies who have taken them captive, and PRAY TO YOU TOWARD their LAND which You have given to their fathers, the CITY which You have chosen, and the HOUSE which I have built for Your name; then hear their prayer and their supplication in heaven Your dwelling place, and maintain their cause, and FORGIVE Your people who have sinned against You and ALL THEIR TRANSGRESSIONS which they have transgressed against You…” (I Kings 8:46-50). All these facts prove that Hebrew 9:22 is WRONG by asserting that without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Again, when Daniel advised the King Nebuchadnezzar on how he would atone for his sins and his iniquities, he did not ask the King to shed any blood. Read what he asked the King to do:"Therefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto you, and break off your sins by PRACTICING RIGHTEOUSNESS, and your iniquities by SHOWING MERCY TO THE POOR(Daniel 4:27)".

Please and pls mind ur Islam and Quran and leave Christain and their bible so that there will be peace in the land.

[i][/i] please try harder next time. Don't try to explain what you don't understand, otherwise your students will boo you in class.

You have knowledge but no understanding. It is called poison

Teacher1776:
[i][/i] please try harder next time. Don't try to explain what you don't understand, otherwise your students will boo you in class.

point out what is not righjt in the write up rather than spew thrash here

Did you actually write this epistle to arrive at nonsense? I am seriously not understanding this

The Bible is not a novel. Pray for understanding before you start reading.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the carnal man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But if Paul's assertion quoted in 1 Corinthians 2:14 above is really true, why would God of reason and rationality (Isaiah 1:18) ask a carnal man to believe and accept a true spiritual doctrine that cannot be understood and completely foolish to his logical reasoning especially when that reasoning is the ONLY INSTRUMENT at his disposal to recognize that true spirituality in the midst of many fake spiritualities? If there is only one spirituality in the entire world of human being, then Paul may be right in his claim. But there are many spiritualities like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Confucianism, Jainism, Zoroastrianism, Baha’ism, Taoism and Sikhism. Since each of these spiritualities is claiming to be on the right path, it is now left for any carnal man to use the only instrument (his logical reasoning) given to him by God to recognize the true spirituality in the midst of many fake spiritualities. This is exactly the reason why God must design the true spirituality in such a way that all its basic and fundamental doctrine does not in conflict with the basic logical reasoning He bestowed upon a natural man. A fundamental true spiritual doctrine may support or be neutral to basic logical reasoning bestowed upon natural man, but they will never be in conflict with each other. How could true spirituality designed by God and basic logical reasoning originated from the same God be in conflict with each other? If they can be in conflict with each other, then how can a natural man decide whether to accept or reject a true spiritual faith at first instance? Have you now seen how Paul get it wrong by asserting that “the carnal man does not receive the things of the spirit, for they are foolishness to him”? Is true spirituality not meant to be accepted and embraced by carnal man? Now that it is foolishness to him; how is he going to accept and embrace it? To see further that Paul is wrong in his claim; suppose you are invited by a friend to accept a religious faith that is very rich in spirituality. But one of its unique and fundamental doctrines you must embrace without question is that you have to believe that God MUST commit an act of lying in order to achieve a particular greater purpose (May God be Exalted and glorified above such behavior). Now answer the following questions; 1. Would you just accept such faith because of its spiritual richness or reject it because of its foolishness to your logical reasoning? 2. Would you not ask about the actual connections that exist between that greater purpose and the act of lying that must be committed by God before the purpose can be achieved? 3. Would you not ask why All- knowing and Omnipotent God decided, at first instance, to give preference for such irrational way of lying to achieve a greater purpose over many rational ways He can design and create from His infinite knowledge and unlimited power to achieve that greater purpose? 4. Would you just accept that the way and the thought of such a lying God is higher than your way and your thought? 5. Would you just accept that the foolishness of such a lying God is wiser than the wisdom of all men ? 6. Would you just accept such faith relying on the fact that it has already been foretold many years ago in one old book that God would commit such act of lying? 7.Would you just accept such faith even if it is proclaimed that the act of lying commited by such God only lasted for a very few period of time? Now ponder over these seven questions cited above and then compare this imaginary faith which proclaim that God MUST commit an act of lying in order to achieve a particular greater purpose with the Christian faith which also proclaim that God MUST curse (Galatians 3:13, Deuteronomy 21:23) and shed the blood of an innocent and righteous soul on a cross of Calvary in order to achieve a particular greater purpose(like solving the problem of sin with humanity or rescuing the humanity from bondage of Satan or redeeming the souls of humanity from eternal damnation). Therefore, if you reject this imaginary faith because of its foolishness to your logical reasoning, then you must also reject Christianity since the two faiths are telling us the exact opposite of what we naturally know about God through our logical reasoning. As God is naturally known to ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH AND NEVER TO COMMIT AN ACT OF LYING for any greater purpose; He is also naturally known to ALWAYS BLESS THE INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL AND NEVER TO CURSE THE SAME SOUL for any greater purpose. God may allow an innocent and righteous soul to suffer for one reason or the other. But God would never "curse" an innocent and righteous soul for any reason whatsoever. It is now clear that even if there are some spiritual benefits in the inner rooms of a true faith, there is still need for the logical reasoning to take us to the main door of those inner rooms at first encounter. But as we have pointed above, the doctrine of a merciful, omnipotent and All-knowing God who cursed and shed the blood of his only beloved and innocent son on the cross of Calvary for a particular greater purpose is totally in conflict with what we naturally know about God through our logical reasoning; yet this is one of the fundamental doctrines you must embrace wholeheartedly for you to become a serious and devoted Christian. Therefore, there is need for God to send another prophet to remove this negative and bad picture of God from the minds of the general humanity. This is one of the many reasons why Qur’an was revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). In the Holy Qur’an, God removed this negative and bad impression from the minds of the people by declaring that, in a miraculous way, Jesus escaped death on the cross (Qur’an 4:157-158). In this way, the "curse of God" associated with any one that is crucified and died on a cross according to the Jewish law (Deuteronomy 21:23, Galatians 3:13) was removed from the head of our beloved and innocent prophet called Jesus Christ(peace be upon him). This is exactly in line with the prayer of Jesus to God in the garden of Gethsemane when he asked for this “cup of condemnation” to be taken away from him in THREE consecutive times as stated clearly in Matthew 26:36-44. Therefore, an illogical idea of God cursing an innocent and a righteous soul on a cross in order to achieve a particular greater purpose is far away from the truth. The fact that the Holy Qur’an is the only religious book on earth that remove this negative and bad impression about God from the minds of the general humanity is a very great indicator that the book could never have come from no other person except God Himself.

Young man please go through Leviticus chapter 4 and then 2nd Corinthians 5:21

Abdulgaffar22:
But if Paul's assertion quoted in 1 Corinthians 2:14 above is really true, why would God of reason and rationality (Isaiah 1:18) ask a carnal man to believe and accept a true spiritual doctrine that cannot be understood and completely foolish to his logical reasoning especially when that reasoning is the ONLY INSTRUMENT at his disposal to recognize that true spirituality in the midst of many fake spiritualities? If there is only one spirituality in the entire world of human being, then Paul may be right in his claim. But there are many spiritualities like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Confucianism, Jainism, Zoroastrianism, Baha’ism, Taoism and Sikhism. Since each of these spiritualities is claiming to be on the right path, it is now left for any carnal man to use the only instrument (his logical reasoning) given to him by God to recognize the true spirituality in the midst of many fake spiritualities. This is exactly the reason why God must design the true spirituality in such a way that all its basic and fundamental doctrine does not in conflict with the basic logical reasoning He bestowed upon a natural man. A fundamental true spiritual doctrine may support or be neutral to basic logical reasoning bestowed upon natural man, but they will never be in conflict with each other. How could true spirituality designed by God and basic logical reasoning originated from the same God be in conflict with each other? If they can be in conflict with each other, then how can a natural man decide whether to accept or reject a true spiritual faith at first instance? Have you now seen how Paul get it wrong by asserting that “the carnal man does not receive the things of the spirit, for they are foolishness to him”? Is true spirituality not meant to be accepted and embraced by carnal man? Now that it is foolishness to him; how is he going to accept and embrace it? To see further that Paul is wrong in his claim; suppose you are invited by a friend to accept a religious faith that is very rich in spirituality. But one of its unique and fundamental doctrines you must embrace without question is that you have to believe that God MUST commit an act of lying in order to achieve a particular greater purpose (May God be Exalted and glorified above such behavior). Now answer the following questions; 1. Would you just accept such faith because of its spiritual richness or reject it because of its foolishness to your logical reasoning? 2. Would you not ask about the actual connections that exist between that greater purpose and the act of lying that must be committed by God before the purpose can be achieved? 3. Would you not ask why All- knowing and Omnipotent God decided, at first instance, to give preference for such irrational way of lying to achieve a greater purpose over many rational ways He can design and create from His infinite knowledge and unlimited power to achieve that greater purpose? 4. Would you just accept that the way and the thought of such a lying God is higher than your way and your thought? 5. Would you just accept that the foolishness of such a lying God is wiser than the wisdom of all men ? 6. Would you just accept such faith relying on the fact that it has already been foretold many years ago in one old book that God would commit such act of lying? 7.Would you just accept such faith even if it is proclaimed that the act of lying commited by such God only lasted for a very few period of time? Now ponder over these seven questions cited above and then compare this imaginary faith which proclaim that God MUST commit an act of lying in order to achieve a particular greater purpose with the Christian faith which also proclaim that God MUST curse (Galatians 3:13, Deuteronomy 21:23) and shed the blood of an innocent and righteous soul on a cross of Calvary in order to achieve a particular greater purpose(like solving the problem of sin with humanity or rescuing the humanity from bondage of Satan or redeeming the souls of humanity from eternal damnation). Therefore, if you reject this imaginary faith because of its foolishness to your logical reasoning, then you must also reject Christianity since the two faiths are telling us the exact opposite of what we naturally know about God through our logical reasoning. As God is naturally known to ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH AND NEVER TO COMMIT AN ACT OF LYING for any greater purpose; He is also naturally known to ALWAYS BLESS THE INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL AND NEVER TO CURSE THE SAME SOUL for any greater purpose. God may allow an innocent and righteous soul to suffer for one reason or the other. But God would never "curse" an innocent and righteous soul for any reason whatsoever. It is now clear that even if there are some spiritual benefits in the inner rooms of a true faith, there is still need for the logical reasoning to take us to the main door of those inner rooms at first encounter. But as we have pointed above, the doctrine of a merciful, omnipotent and All-knowing God who cursed and shed the blood of his only beloved and innocent son on the cross of Calvary for a particular greater purpose is totally in conflict with what we naturally know about God through our logical reasoning; yet this is one of the fundamental doctrines you must embrace wholeheartedly for you to become a serious and devoted Christian. Therefore, there is need for God to send another prophet to remove this negative and bad picture of God from the minds of the general humanity. This is one of the many reasons why Qur’an was revealed by God to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). In the Holy Qur’an, God removed this negative and bad impression from the minds of the people by declaring that, in a miraculous way, Jesus escaped death on the cross (Qur’an 4:157-158). In this way, the "curse of God" associated with any one that is crucified and died on a cross according to the Jewish law (Deuteronomy 21:23, Galatians 3:13) was removed from the head of our beloved and innocent prophet called Jesus Christ(peace be upon him). This is exactly in line with the prayer of Jesus to God in the garden of Gethsemane when he asked for this “cup of condemnation” to be taken away from him in THREE consecutive times as stated clearly in Matthew 26:36-44. Therefore, an illogical idea of God cursing an innocent and a righteous soul on a cross in order to achieve a particular greater purpose is far away from the truth. The fact that the Holy Qur’an is the only religious book on earth that remove this negative and bad impression about God from the minds of the general humanity is a very great indicator that the book could never have come from no other person except God Himself.

Jesus Christ is one perfect sacrifice, he died on that cross and was resurrected by the Power of God, by His death he bore our sins and curses and took away our punishments. Thats the Truth, anything outside that is from the devil and the anti-christ.

Logically, this very doctrine of sin atonement cannot be true because telling the believers that they will no longer be held responsible for all their sins since one innocent man had already been held responsible on their behalf seems to imply that they are now free to commit sins as long as they believe in this atonement sacrifice. Whereas telling the believers that, except they repent sincerely by turning from their sinful ways, they themselves will be held responsible for their sins would make them think twice before committing any sin. Of course the latter is more logical and reasonable than the former. In fact, the resurrection of Jesus make this sin atonement doctrine to be even more illogical because if the punishment which Jesus received in place of the sinners is a continuous one and not temporary, then this can make the sinner to feel sorry for Jesus and become more remorseful. This may discourage him from committing more sin. But since according to the Christians, Jesus had been resurrected and the punishment received by Jesus in place of the sinners had already ended, then there is no any cause for alarm if the sinful believer in this doctrine seized this opportunity to commit more sins. In fact, one would expect the sinners to utilize and maximize this opportunity by committing more sins since the punishment for those sins had already been accomplished by Jesus on the cross in the time past. Have you now seen that atonement of sins through Jesus crucifixion is the most illogical concept you can ever think of!

Abdulgaffar22:
Logically, this very doctrine of sin atonement cannot be true because telling the believers that they will no longer be held responsible for all their sins since one innocent man had already been held responsible on their behalf seems to imply that they are now free to commit sins as long as they believe in this atonement sacrifice. Whereas telling the believers that, except they repent sincerely by turning from their sinful ways, they themselves will be held responsible for their sins would make them think twice before committing any sin. Of course the latter is more logical and reasonable than the former. In fact, the resurrection of Jesus make this sin atonement doctrine to be even more illogical because if the punishment which Jesus received in place of the sinners is a continuous one and not temporary, then this can make the sinner to feel sorry for Jesus and become more remorseful. This may discourage him from committing more sin. But since according to the Christians, Jesus had been resurrected and the punishment received by Jesus in place of the sinners had already ended, then there is no any cause for alarm if the sinful believer in this doctrine seized this opportunity to commit more sins. In fact, one would expect the sinners to utilize and maximize this opportunity by committing more sins since the punishment for those sins had already been accomplished by Jesus on the cross in the time past. Have you now seen that atonement of sins through Jesus crucifixion is the most illogical concept you can ever think of!

funny, the fact someone cancelled a debt u owe does not imply u should go and borrow more to spend with no hope of paying back in time. Christians are commanded to live in love towards their neighbours and God Almighty, that directly implies hurting no one.

your previous write up reminds me about how the devil deceived Eve in the garden....did God say you would die if u eat the forbidden fruit? u shall not truely die, but become like God, knowing good and evil....they did eat it, and became "dead" in the eyes of God and so everyman was born sinful....the father of lies calling God a liar.

If the debt is cancelled for just one time, then you might not feel comfortable to go and borrow more money. But if you are told that the cancellation is for every and single debt you owed through out your life time, then you must seized the opportunity to borrow more money. Sorry! Your analogy is not making any sense.

that would actually be foolishness, it is clearly spelt out by Jesus Christ himself, "your sins are forgiven you; go and sin no more"...if you decide to do otherwise you are on your own. Christianity is simply about living in Love and understanding.

there is the parable of the sower who went about sowing seeds and some fell among thorns, some on dry land, some on rock and others on good soil...so it is always, some feel too proud and reject it, some accept it but fail to keep it, some reject it outrightly, others accept it wholeheartedly

Yes Jesus said: "Your sins are forgiven you. Go and sin no more" . But when did Jesus make that statement? Before his so-called Crucifixion. This is exactly the point you are not getting. It is repentance and NOT Jesus crucifixion that God actually needs to forgive the sinners. This is the reason why it is possible for Jesus to say "your sins are forgiven you" despite the fact that he was still alive and yet to undergo the so-called Crucifixion. If Jesus crucifixion is actually required for divine forgiveness, then Jesus would not be able say the above statement while he was yet to be crucified.

what you dont get is that blood sacrifice is always required for the forgiveness of sins in Gods eyes hence i asked to go through Leviticus 4, or when exactly did that change?
btw just to add, about this "so-called crucifixion, death and ressurection", i dont know exactly what you believe but i think in Islam its taught that Jesus didnt die on the cross, his disciples somehow helped him get away, right? seriously who should we believe if we want to be rational?
on one hand you have the testimony of the disciples, the one who betrayed him hanged himself, the others except one were faithful to the end in the face of hardships and persecutions,and were eventually killed at different times because of the Gospel of Jesus Christ they preached, and there is also St Paul who was a soldier killing Christians before he was miraculously converted, and also suffered same fate with the other disciples, that is beside others who were also persecuted as well. if it was all a farce do you really think its likely they would all follow through despite the hardships they were faced with knowing they were only propagating falsehood?if Jesus Christ wasnt crucified, dead, buried and was resurrected like He said He would why then should they live the rest of their lives in torture to death?do people waste their lives just like that for someone they already know is fake?
on the other hand there is your version which is from someone who had contact with christians and jews amongst other religious faithfuls claiming to have received divine revelations which contradicts the Gospel preached by the apostles and tries to build a new religion modelled after judaism.
btw im still looking for evidence of the moon splitting, someone somewhere else ought to have noticed that, not only those around him then of whom some dispelled it as trickery. who could have doubted something glaring as that