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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Carinaflo(f): 11:46am On May 18, 2017
This puts a clearer view to chisom's death. I will share this on my Fb page and tag all my friends that have been tagging me in the initial post
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by ibnchokomah(m): 11:46am On May 18, 2017
Blah!! Sorry but since the very Nigerian doctors at the teaching hospital aba, Enugu and the National hospital in Abuja kept on treating my sister for chronic asthma until she died and they found out later she was being treated for something else. I'll forever remain dismissive and skeptical of what I hear from the mouth of any doctor. As for your analysis, you can always come up with an excuse after all who else is in a better position to come up with something analytical and logical on issues like this apart from medical practitioners. Most of you are all words.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by newyorks(m): 11:47am On May 18, 2017
for some reasons i believe the op but the truth remains that some 10% of death in hospitals is as a result of non chalant behaviour and not coming to terms with the patients relatives.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Pennywise(m): 11:52am On May 18, 2017
madjune:
Will you keep kwayet Mr OP.

Rising to the defence of incompetent doctors with forced, snort cerebral writing aimed to put you on an authoritative pedestal.

I don't buy that.

You can bully the less educated into that line of believing you, hook, line and hogwash.

Its a known fact that the average Nigerian doctor is a killer.
I'm a victim and I'm still living with the after effects of 2005.

Trust them at your own peril.

You were killed in 2005 by a Nigerian doctor? Sorry Bro.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Senipapa(m): 11:54am On May 18, 2017
Our medical system needs to be sanitized, Mr OP acknowledge that fact first before rushing in to defend your colleague.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Pilate2016(m): 11:54am On May 18, 2017
obstead200:

I take exception to the police part.
Police deserve all the criticism they get. If u have ever dealt with the police, then u must agree with this
But remember we still have good number of them that still risk their lives for ours. I know it's what they are paid for but how many of our politheifians are doing there work. There bad eggs in all organization.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by madjune(m): 11:55am On May 18, 2017
Pennywise:


You were killed in 2005 by a Nigerian doctor? Sorry Bro.

Not killed abeg. He messed up my health in some ways.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Senipapa(m): 12:04pm On May 18, 2017
Afam4eva:
The OP's grammar does not change anything. The family of the deceased have presented their own case whether or not it was beclouded by emotions. It's left for the hospital to present their own side of the story so that we can weight both. The writer in am attempt to play the devil's advocate, without knowing the patient or the nitty gritty of what happened has decided what was wrong and invariably killed the young woman. You must be a vision seeing doctor. In your bid to protect your fellow incompetent doctors and yourself, since you're probably a quack, instead of doing your investigations, you want to use english and medical grammar to bamboozle us. I can see some people are already saying "It's true sha, the woman should have.." Taa, keep quiet. If you don't know what happened keep quiet.
Don't mind the OP, trust doctors to always jump in, in defense of their colleague even when they are totally wrong. Only a fool, an uneducated fellow or one who has never spent few days in Nigerian hospital will settle for this bullshit the OP just dished out.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Chikabel: 12:06pm On May 18, 2017
dominique:


The first thing a medic would do the moment an hypotensive woman in labour is brought into their ward is to get the baby out ASAP. Are you saying that the doctors wouldn't have suggested a ceasarian section to be carried out on the deceased the moment she was brought in? Why did it take the husband four days before agreeing to do a C-section? This is a specialist hospital we are talking about, even quacks should know how dicy the situation is.

Ma'am, this is where respect for patient autonomy comes in, which overrides beneficence any day (do well to read up medical ethics).
Typical example is seen in our JW brethren that do not accept blood transfusions, under no circumstance would a doctor transfuse them even at the point of death, so long as they have their power of attorney. To do that, is to face the wrath of the law. Hence, above all moral justifications on the part of the doctor, so long as that is the patient's decision, it stands. He can only offer medical advice as a doctor.
Also seen in the DNR order especially seen in the Western world.
She must have agreed with her husband's decisions all along which in this part of the world, is seen as one being a dutiful wife. Also, because she thinks having a cs in her third pregnancy makes her less of a woman. The mentality we have in this country is appalling.
That's exactly why my project topic is based on KAP of women in reproductive age group to Caesarean section.

RIP Chisom!

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by PastorAji(m): 12:07pm On May 18, 2017
wa gbayi @domnique
1. last year my wife was "over term" and she wasn't falling to labour. we wanted to wait till when she is dilated (labour-ready) when a Doctor in my church advised me to wait for a week and if nothing happens we should go for option 2.....On saturday (6days after the discussion) my wife went to the hospital. she took all the injections, water, tablet for where......bobo no gree come out that was when her Gyn advised us to take the option 2.....
we did and to the glory of God it was successful

2. In 2014 while my wife was admitted to CUHC (CU Health Centre) for UTI, a woman came in with her husband. She was hypertensive, fat and pregnant. During examination, it was discovered that she was given an injection to either calm the high bp/induce her(which i dont know) immediately she was booked for CS and to the glory of God, she and the baby survived.

The blame goes to both parties
i. The family: if labour don dey exceed four hours, they would have opted for Option 2
ii. The Medical Facility: The HCP (health care providers) too are culpable. Why when they have known the medical history of the woman and would have taken all precautionary ways to prevent maternal & infant mortality
Would say IF YOUR WIFE GIVE BIRTH NATURALLY GLORY BE TO GOD AND IF YOUR WIFE WAS "ASSISTED" TOO GLORY BE TO GOD
Bottom-line
We should ensure that Maternal & Infant mortality rate in Nigeria SHOULD BE REDUCED TO ZERO
dominique:
It is very easy to throw darts at Nigerian medical practionals especially with the one-sided stories that are churned out on social media.
I read the initial story and saw some loopholes but was too busy to point them out at the time.
Why did it take four days after she was admitted before her husband eventually signed the consent from for a cesserian section? Could it be that they were deliberately stalling hoping for a vaginal birth? Her uterus ruptured and she was left alone to bleed to death? In a private specialist hospital that has a reputation to protect?
As much as I sympathize with the deceased's loved ones, but I'm not in support of their whipping up sentiments to demonize a hospital (where she birthed her first two children without any complications). May God console them and rest her soul and that of the little one.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Mophasa(m): 12:11pm On May 18, 2017
coolcatty:



Oga just type your RIP and get out......which lousy talk is heavens just got another Angels?.........so heavens just allowed some little kids to be motherless because it wants to gain an angel?

Niggggah just shut up jare

Demented atheist spotted

Death is inevitable and as a follower of christ I have to wish a special place of rest at the bossom of father Abraham in high heavens

And when it's my time to exit this sinful world, I wish to be in the same place too

You need christ seriously, think about it

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Nobody: 12:11pm On May 18, 2017
l want to use this medium to advice the ladies, CS is not a death trap,its a necessity when needed.Before l had my daughter last 2months ago,my doctor admitted me 2weeks before my EDD,he said l needed to be monitored because my BP was slightly high and l had protein in my urine coupled with my swollen ankles(pre eclampsia).when l came to the Hosp on the 1st of that month,l was then booked for a C section on the 4th,but on the 3rd,they noticed that my bp was very high(of course l was nervous, who wouldn't?,was so scared) ,l was rushed to the theatre that morning and my baby was delivered,and again you must buy blood whether you need it or not,its very necessary during cs,l thank God because it's only his grace,my husband didn't even hesitate, he gave his consent to go on with the cs,pls ladies even the husbands here,make cs your second option,its not a dead trap. May your beautiful soul rest in peace,Chisom.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Olysmile(f): 12:15pm On May 18, 2017
Eyaa my condolences to the family, but seriously CS is not bad at all it just a quick intervention to save mother and child. Whether through birth canal or CS, delivering is delivering.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by arrestdarrester: 12:19pm On May 18, 2017
I hesitated when it came to signing the petition for an investigation into the matter but reading you confirmed my concern: the visible sensational strokes to the only side of the story at the time.

More so, in the petition it was stated that she had her living kids (2 in number) successfully delivered in the same hospital. Haba! If for nothing, at least for this alone abeg cut the doctors some slack, even if na small.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by alfa0: 12:38pm On May 18, 2017
GogetterMD:


https://mbasic.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1136089289828761&id=100002831036954&comment_id=1136727973098226&_rdr

While i respect your opinion as a person or rather doctor's defense counsel,I will like to disagree with so many of your points.
There is this adage that says "he who wears the shoe knows where it is paining him." having said this,you can not come here to defend the doctors involved until you hear their own story one on one,unless you want to tell us that you have done that or maybe you know the story or the doctors involved personally.
having met and attended to by Nigerian doctors,i will conclusively say that only a few of them understand their calling.the peculiarity of the professional.well i will not like to blame the young doctors because,i have witness where the are left all alone doing trial and error with patients who are supposed to be given utmost care.Ask me where the Senior Doctors are,then i will ask you too.Most times they look confused that one begin to wonder when and where did they get their training from.

I have had a first hand experience with these so called Nigerian doctors (much respect to those ones that know their calling.)
My first experience was with Gwagwalada teaching hospital,Abuja.In this case,the patients is still very much alive t tell the story.the whole scene was pathetic. i will not go further in this story.

My second experience was with Federal Staff Clinic Gwarinpa, the patients was later transfered to Federal Staff Clinic Jabi.
He later died in Kubwa general hospital after an early morning emergency.all because of the first mistake made by a Male Nigerian doctor in gwarinpa. People wanted me to press chargers but i counted all as vanity,i moved on.

I will not like to bore people with too many stories but i will gladly furnish you with my detailed stories and evidence with hospital admission numbers so that you can verify.but please when next you defend a Nigerian doctor ( respect to those ones that know the job),ask if you were in the victims shoe.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Rheality: 12:47pm On May 18, 2017
@OP ure very structural and analytical. But in In Efe voice; no vex oo OP. if na ur wife, sista or dota dis tin happen to, ur analysis for b like dis:
1. from d info provided, i tink d doctor(s), would hv abandoned d woman and ignored the husband in reprobation of his initial refusal to sign for CS (remember they r humans nd wld hv been angry at dis point). they'll b like: oga shebi we been tell u to sign u no gree. pls stop disturbing us we hv other patients to attend to.
2. Having observed d dangers of d hubby's refusal to sign, a professional doctor shld hv invited others like d deceased parents nd her parents in law to persuade d husband to do d needful or at least witness d extent of their effort.
3 We were told d woman died while being stretched out of the hospital. dont u tink there shld hv been a doctor accompanying dis woman from the moment she got to the stretcher all thru to the next point of medical attention? apparently there was no doctor around to do dat. with dis analysis, i also sense the doctors gave up on dis woman at some point.
4. we all know doctors hv a way of understanding the criticality of their patients medical conditions for which dey could give a range of period a patient can survive if a certain condition is not met. If dat is the case here, why didn't d doctors advice as appropriate?

Nigerian Doctors and Lawyers are d same kind of pple. Always using professional languages to cover up evil and circumvent real situations.

OP u can twist or tweak it the way u want but dont forget Nigerians are about the most intelligent pple on earth irrespective of our damn leadership challenges.

Just very soon, we will see hw it pans out.

RIP Ma.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by ElPhoche(m): 1:25pm On May 18, 2017
GogetterMD:
dominique
Mynd44
Lalasticlala
Ishilove
Seun

Let people see another perspective
And you copied my senior friend, Super CJay. I like the dude. Love the way he usually palpated my skull as a student. He did well with that piece there

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by ElPhoche(m): 1:30pm On May 18, 2017
Rheality:
@OP ure very structural and analytical. But in In Efe voice; no vex oo OP. if na ur wife, sista or dota dis tin happen to, ur analysis for b like dis:
1. from d info provided, i tink d doctor(s), would hv abandoned d woman and ignored the husband in reprobation of his initial refusal to sign for CS (remember they r humans nd wld hv been angry at dis point). they'll b like: oga shebi we been tell u to sign u no gree. pls stop disturbing us we hv other patients to attend to.
2. Having observed d dangers of d hubby's refusal to sign, a professional doctor shld hv invited others like d deceased parents nd her parents in law to persuade d husband to do d needful or at least witness d extent of their effort.
3 We were told d woman died while being stretched out of the hospital. dont u tink there shld hv been a doctor accompanying dis woman from the moment she got to the stretcher all thru to the next point of medical attention? apparently there was no doctor around to do dat. with dis analysis, i also sense the doctors gave up on dis woman at some point.
4. we all know doctors hv a way of understanding the criticality of their patients medical conditions for which dey could give a range of period a patient can survive if a certain condition is not met. If dat is the case here, why didn't d doctors advice as appropriate?

Nigerian Doctors and Lawyers are d same kind of pple. Always using professional languages to cover up evil and circumvent real situations.

OP u can twist or tweak it the way u want but dont forget Nigerians are about the most intelligent pple on earth irrespective of our damn leadership challenges.

Just very soon, we will see hw it pans out.

RIP Ma.
1)The doctor has no business calling the patient relative to come. His only duty is to the patient. If patient is not in the position to give consent, the buck stops at his husband, or the next of kin available. Once, the person declines, it stops at that. It is left for the person and the house to put him in order.
2)The doctor is not expected to follow the patient to the point of referral. It is the job of paramedics or a nurse. Remember, there are other patients to care for, and emergencies that could occur.
3)For your other prejudices against medical personnel, I won't respond, but allow you to wallow very well in your ignorance.
Thank you. Do have a wonderful day

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Nobody: 1:33pm On May 18, 2017
Ignorance is bliss.
You have taken time to try and educate people who don't read anything that is more than 5 lines.
Good de-construction by the way. The Hospital and staff must have reached Golgotha by now.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by judgedredd22(m): 1:34pm On May 18, 2017
GogetterMD:


https://mbasic.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1136089289828761&id=100002831036954&comment_id=1136727973098226&_rdr

Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Nobody: 1:35pm On May 18, 2017
ElPhoche:

1)The doctor has no business calling the patient relative to come. His only duty is to the patient. If patient is not in the position to give consent, the buck stops at his husband, or the next of kin available. Once, the person declines, it stops at that. It is left for the person and the house to put him in order.
2)The doctor is not expected to follow the patient to the point of referral. It is the job of paramedics or a nurse. Remember, there are other patients to care for, and emergencies that could occur.
3)For your other prejudices against medical personnel, I won't respond, but allow you to wallow very well in your ignorance.
Thank you. Do have a wonderful day

You get time o!
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by MsSantaClaus(f): 1:39pm On May 18, 2017
I do sympathize with Chisoms family, but honestly I'm so tired of Nigerians, always blaming doctors and hospitals for death due to negligence. I'm not in the medical field, but I have heard time and time "It is not my portion" whenever CS is mentioned! What does that even mean Do you think CS is something doctors just do for the heck of it? If it is the best and safest option for a good outcome for both mother and child, why should it not be a part of your birth plan immediately and not when the woman is almost dead? The outcome at that point is 50-50 at best. The Religious Stupidity in Nigeria is at times at an all time high, why can't we be rational! I'm not ruling out negligence entirely, but I doubt any doctor or hospital want unnecessary death in their care, but a hospital is the best place to die, at least they tried to save your life, but that's when you co operate with them fully. R.I.P lovely Chisom, so sad to see such a Young person go.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by judgedredd22(m): 1:41pm On May 18, 2017
keepingmum:
Pre-eclampsia is a VERY SERIOUS life threatening ailment that poses a significant risk to the life of mother and baby therefore should be attended to with urgency.
Keeping a patient with Pre-eclampsia for more than 24hrs without treatment is tantamount to manslaughter! !! Most definitely negligence and in my world, you will not only loose your medical licence to practice you ll also be looking at a referral to the CPS for criminal charges
Maternal mortality is very high in Nigeria and a large contributing factor is negligence and the itk/inability to listen to patients by doctors/nurses as well as the ability to learn from mistakes AND the stupid risks that doctors often take with patients lives

Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by ElPhoche(m): 1:51pm On May 18, 2017
keepingmum:
Pre-eclampsia is a VERY SERIOUS life threatening ailment that poses a significant risk to the life of mother and baby therefore should be attended to with urgency.
Keeping a patient with Pre-eclampsia for more than 24hrs without treatment is tantamount to manslaughter! !! Most definitely negligence and in my world, you will not only loose your medical licence to practice you ll also be looking at a referral to the CPS for criminal charges
Maternal mortality is very high in Nigeria and a large contributing factor is negligence and the itk/inability to listen to patients by doctors/nurses as well as the ability to learn from mistakes AND the stupid risks that doctors often take with patients lives
Do you seriously think they kept a pre-eclamptic woman in a hospital 24 hours WITHOUT ANY FORM OF TREATMENT?
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Oyindidi(f): 1:53pm On May 18, 2017
PastorAji:
wa gbayi @domnique
1. last year my wife was "over term" and she wasn't falling to labour. we wanted to wait till when she is dilated (labour-ready) when a Doctor in my church advised me to wait for a week and if nothing happens we should go for option 2.....On saturday (6days after the discussion) my wife went to the hospital. she took all the injections, water, tablet for where......bobo no gree come out that was when her Gyn advised us to take the option 2.....
we did and to the glory of God it was successful

2. In 2014 while my wife was admitted to CUHC (CU Health Centre) for UTI, a woman came in with her husband. She was hypertensive, fat and pregnant. During examination, it was discovered that she was given an injection to either calm the high bp/induce her(which i dont know) immediately she was booked for CS and to the glory of God, she and the baby survived.

The blame goes to both parties
i. The family: if labour don dey exceed four hours, they would have opted for Option 2
ii. The Medical Facility: The HCP (health care providers) too are culpable. Why when they have known the medical history of the woman and would have taken all precautionary ways to prevent maternal & infant mortality
Would say IF YOUR WIFE GIVE BIRTH NATURALLY GLORY BE TO GOD AND IF YOUR WIFE WAS "ASSISTED" TOO GLORY BE TO GOD
Bottom-line
We should ensure that Maternal & Infant mortality rate in Nigeria SHOULD BE REDUCED TO ZERO
I disagree @ bolded, a commisoner's wife and a banker was over term like your case and the doctors asked to go for CS. Knowing she delivered her first baby through CS but the woman refused and stopped coming for antenatal. At the long run the baby died in her womb. The doctors can't force anyone to do what they don't want to do. In my case, I went into labour, entered delivery room only for them to say my pelvic is tight and only way out is CS. My man signed and I was operated. I'm a proud mama you know grin

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Amhappy(f): 2:12pm On May 18, 2017
This post is based on imagination and assumptions not on facts. Playing the devils advocate can destroy the truth. The Hospital is not dumb. We cannot make conclusions based on this. I have a first hand experience of negligence that can lead to maternal mortality. The family of the victim has spoken,let the hospital clear its name.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by cao(f): 2:13pm On May 18, 2017
All these folks complaining that it's tl;dr...abeg sharrap, they didn't teach you how to skim through an article? It didn't occur to you to at least read the emboldened points? If it was someone writing about how to make money from a blog, you'll be the first one to read through an epistle faster than your eyes could comprehend. Shame no catch you? Abeg keep quiet, it's not by force to post your incompetence.

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by sameniceguy(m): 2:18pm On May 18, 2017
Hmmm.....
I sympathise with the bereaved and pray God grants them the fortitude to bear the loss.
To a great extent, i don't swallow emotional writeups on social media hook, line and sinker. Most times, the stories are over doctored that the truth gets buried more.
The OP's write-up though not the other side of the coin but sure gives some insight into what transpired. The story from the family wasn't straight though.
The truth shall one day be reviled.
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by PastorAji(m): 2:30pm On May 18, 2017
hmmm my sister those are exceptional cases. but truth be told there should be something to do about it cos the rate of CS is getting on the increase especially in nigeria
Oyindidi:
I disagree @ bolded, a commisoner's wife and a banker was over term like your case and the doctors asked to go for CS. Knowing she delivered her first baby through CS but the woman refused and stopped coming for antenatal. At the long run the baby died in her womb. The doctors can't force anyone to do what they don't want to do. In my case, I went into labour, entered delivery room only for them to say my pelvic is tight and only way out is CS. My man signed and I was operated. I'm a proud mama you know grin
Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by Oyindidi(f): 2:35pm On May 18, 2017
PastorAji:
hmmm my sister those are exceptional cases. but truth be told there should be something to do about it cos the rate of CS is getting on the increase especially in nigeria
I believe its to save lives. My pastor's wife bp was above 200 and she was 9 months pregnant then. They tired to may it stabilize but still not below 200 the doctors had to bring out the baby. I av seen many cases and I think in some cases CS is the only way to save the mother

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Re: The Late Chisom Anekwe: Another Perspective by 1miccza: 2:53pm On May 18, 2017
Thank you OP for such clear cut analysis, for sometime, i have missed clear analysis of this nature on Nairaland. I also thank the Mods who have decided to push for once a sensible post to the front page. On different fronts, all i've been seeing has always been people posting comments that lack analysis and rational thinking and threads that would in no way help matters. NICE JOB OP and more of these MODS.

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