KingEbukasBlog:


How can he tell you ? You made the claim that our mind created spirit , please defend it .

chemystery:

Why dont people say "our father who art in third heaven..." or is god dwelling in space?

chemystery:
if you say spirit cannot be created, then we are both right

malvisguy212:

2 Chronicles 2:6
But who is able to build him an house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? who am I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?

malvisguy212:
God is a spirit, He is uncreated. He bring everything Into existence.

chemystery:
same with the universe

chemystery:
same with the universe

chemystery:
those who believe in spirits or god created it in their mind

chemystery:
highest of heavens is situated in heaven. If i say deepest of earth, am i moving away from the earth? Rather, i am only trying to specify an extreme of a particular entity.

Why is it only in case like these you guys want to turn things upside down but tomorrow you will say you will go to heaven and not third heaven or heaven of heavens. And then heaven will not become space any longer

malvisguy212:
you are making atheism look more stupid. if all atheist reason like you, then I must confess, atheism is illogical.

KingEbukasBlog:

What then created man ?

KingEbukasBlog:


Can you prove the universe is eternal ?

Can you disprove Hawkins evidences for a finite universe ?
www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html

malvisguy212:
the univers has a beginning, but God has no beginning and no end.

chemystery:

the universe is indeterminate, hence we can use the word eternal or infinite.

chemystery:
let's not bother about what created man same way you dont want to bother about what created god.

KingEbukasBlog:



God is eternal uncreated , without beginning or end that's why no one is bothered about who created God .

Now tell me , is man eternal ? And since science lets us know that man has a beginning , what created man ?

KingEbukasBlog:


Abeg carry your wahala go jare

You keep saying the saying the universe is eternal without proof when observational data and physics let us understand that the universe has a beginning . That is simply delusion .

By the way an eternal universe still does not preclude the existence of God .

KingEbukasBlog:


Abeg carry your wahala go jare

You keep saying the saying the universe is eternal without proof when observational data and physics let us understand that the universe has a beginning . That is simply delusion .

By the way an eternal universe still does not preclude the existence of God .

chemystery:
don't confuse yourself because you want to win an argument.

Are in support of biblical beginning of the universe of less than 10,000 years or the scientifi beginning of millions of years?

If you go with the bible, then you have to dismiss scientific theories.
If you go with science, then you have to falsify the bible.

chemystery:
In the beginning, god created heaven and earth.

Where was god before creating heaven and earth?
Was he homeless?

KingEbukasBlog:

Win arguments ? I've abandoned so many arguments because most times they are a waste of time . Just like I'll do now if you continue making assertions without backing them up with logic or science .



Bro , there are so many interpretations of the biblical account of creation .

There is old-earth creationism and young earth creationism . There is theistic evolution - the belief God orchestrated evolution . Some Christians interpret the creation story literally while others do so allegorically .

Even before science came with evidence of 4.5 billion year old earth , ancient and medieval Christians and Jewish philosophers interpreted the bible's creation story allegorically .

chemystery:

When you said many interpretation of biblical account of creation, i laughed. Is this not evident the bible brews confusion? Is this not evident the bible is man made tool to explain how we came into existence?

chemystery:

Yes for what is asserted without proof or logic - like existence of god, does not need proof or logic to dismiss

Tell me, are you going for the scientific theory or biblical theory of the beginning of the universe?

When you said many interpretation of biblical account of creation, i laughed. Is this not evident the bible brews confusion? Is this not evident the bible is man made tool to explain how we came into existence?

Tell me the interpretation you go with and what it said about how many years ago the earth began if you are going with the bible's account of less than 10,000 years. Or you can manufacture an intepretation that matches with science's billion years

KingEbukasBlog:


Pooh Pooh fallacy .

I gave you two logical reasons the other the day to acknowledge the existence of God and you could not refute them .

You just hold tightly to your illogical assertions and claims even when they have been debunked so easily - that's delusion .



I just told you that ancient and medieval Jewish and Christian philosophers interpreted the bible allegorically before science came with evidence of a 4.5 billion year old year earth . And you still went ahead to say that interpretations were done to match science's evidence . Haba !

And the scientific discoveries were still made by Christians !

Ancient atheists from the Charvaka materialist school believed that everything is made up of fire , water , air and earth . Or you don't know that ancient atheists made so many daft claims ?

Na wa for you oo

chemystery:

lemme see the logical reason. Maybe you typed and send but still hanging in the air...
and he finally came with his own theory to match with science...

I repeat again, are you going with the bible's chronological proof of <10,000 years ago, or the scientific theory of 4.5billion years? Or you no longer believe in the bible just because of this particular argument?

Never knew i can make you deny the bible

KingEbukasBlog:


Bro , I'm not sure why you are not getting this . The chronology is just a way some Christians determine the age of the earth . The Christians who don't use the chronology are not denying the bible , they are simply using a different interpretation . Simple . A metaphorical view of the creation story is not denying the bible or trying to harmonize the bible with scientific evidence . The metaphorical interpretation is as old as the literal view .

How else do you want me to explain ?

chemystery:
OK, Do this for me,
post the linage of jesus christ from adam, i will allow you assume each person lives for 2000years, while you also assume each gave birth when they are 2000years old. Or you want to assume, 10,000? I still give you. Let's see how you will arrive at a million years not to talk of billions . Wake up brother

chemystery:

I want to believe. It's not fun being an atheist. I wish there is a god. I thought there was one before but i was wrong.
All atheist once searched for god and some (like me) are still searching.

KingEbukasBlog:


Bro , I'm not sure why you are not getting this . The chronology is just a way some Christians determine the age of the earth . The Christians who don't use the chronology are not denying the bible , they are simply using a different interpretation . Simple . A metaphorical view of the creation story is not denying the bible or trying to harmonize the bible with scientific evidence . The metaphorical interpretation is as old as the literal view .

How else do you want me to explain ?