Do you revoke one's citizenship after 53 years?? St. Louis has become a citizen, not just a sugar cube.

tomdon:


Do you understand English at all??

Very well! Do you?

The real Saint Louis sugar is no longer in Nigerian market as the only company with license to import it has stopped bringing it in. This gave opportunity to those who smuggles in adulterated Saint Louis brand of sugar.

Do you understand now?

Am an entry level manager where I work and you insult my comprehension ability? Isn't it too early for that?

Even in my area,st louis is very scarce.

Instead of primitive outright banning, why not impose very high tariffs?
Outright ban leads to smuggling and loss of revenue to the government unlike excessive tariffs.
Outright ban also provokes retaliation from the exporting countries. Prohibitively high tariffs are more difficult to retaliate, which is what China has done to grow its economy.

Just make it an offence for supermarkets to stock it, punishable by seizure and a fine of N1000 for every packet. That will stop it Pronto!! If there's no demand, then there won't be supply.

mfm04622:
Very well! Do you?

The real Saint Louis sugar is no longer in Nigerian market as the only company with license to import it has stopped bringing it in. This gave opportunity to those who smuggles in adulterated Saint Louis brand of sugar.

Do you understand now?

Am an entry level manager where I work and you insult my comprehension ability? Isn't it too early for that?

The fact that it is smuggled does not mean that it is automatically fake, adulterated or counterfeit.
Rice, vegetable oil, vehicles etc are smuggled into our country. Does that mean that they are all fake, adulterated and counterfeit?

4Play:


Banning imported products is not a good way of developing Nigeria's economy. The implication of these bans is that you pay more for either illicitly imported sub-standard imports or locally produced versions.
If the latter, the producer takes the "excess profits" out of the country having converted it to dollars. So you get all the downsides - higher prices and currency depreciation - without necessarily developing a strong economy.

It's not today that we started banning imported products, we have been doing this since independence, but all it achieves is line the pockets of the highly connected like Dangote who keep most of their wealth abroad.

To develop a strong economy, we need export competitive industries that bring in forex through their exports not protectionist policies that inflate prices for Nigerians. Protectionist policies work only if they are part of an export strategy: industries are protected only on the strong condition they generate export proceeds. This is not what is happening in Nigeria and we should not be applauding schemes to impoverish Nigerians.

You must be an intelligent person. The best comment on this topic, I must confess

COMPAQ:
Just make it an offence for supermarkets to stock it, punishable by seizure and a fine of N1000 for every packet. That will stop it Pronto!! If there's no demand, then there won't be supply.

That is the same as checking your vehicle's import duties when you are driving.
It reflects an inefficient system that adds to the existing stress of living in our country.
The checks, seizures and confiscation should be done at the land, sea and air borders.

4Play:
Banning imported products is not a good way of developing Nigeria's economy. The implication of these bans is that you pay more for either illicitly imported sub-standard imports or locally produced versions.
If the latter, the producer takes the "excess profits" out of the country having converted it to dollars. So you get all the downsides - higher prices and currency depreciation - without necessarily developing a strong economy.

It's not today that we started banning imported products, we have been doing this since independence, but all it achieves is line the pockets of the highly connected like Dangote who keep most of their wealth abroad.

To develop a strong economy, we need export competitive industries that bring in forex through their exports not protectionist policies that inflate prices for Nigerians. Protectionist policies work only if they are part of an export strategy: industries are protected only on the strong condition they generate export proceeds. This is not what is happening in Nigeria and we should not be applauding schemes to impoverish Nigerians.

Please tell us what the Chinese did to grow their economy in the last five decades?
Thanks

nathan5050:
Do you revoke one's citizenship after 53 years?? St. Louis has become a citizen, not just a sugar cube.

Are you for real?
This is the business section, in case you have not noticed.
It is not the jokes section.
Cheers.

Heromaniaa:
The sugar they package in this country is not sweet. You pour one sachet of Dangote sugar in your pap, and the pap tastes like you added extra water. Is good we ban importation of products that are manufactured in the country, but at the same time we have to ensure the home product is not of substandard quality. If our sugar tastes better and is cheaper, then no one will go through the misery of smuggling St Louis into the country. Then again, we have to be sure we are not advancing Dangote's monopoly If Dangote with his 24/7 access to credit facilities controls 80 percent of the sugar industry, then how effective has d sugar ban been in encouraging local producers??

. You are very correct, it amazes me, why dangote has a monopoly on something like sugar. Ordinary sugar....It's not like it's a software or some kind of Patented Technology. To have a monopoly on sugar in the 21st century, in a country of 170million you have to be pulling some kind of "political strings". Which is not helpful to the country at large.

mfm04622:


Very well! Do you?

The real Saint Louis sugar is no longer in Nigerian market as the only company with license to import it has stopped bringing it in. This gave opportunity to those who smuggles in adulterated Saint Louis brand of sugar.

Do you understand now?

Am an entry level manager where I work and you insult my comprehension ability? Isn't it too early for that?

You clearly did not read what he wrote before you commented.he said the st Louis sugar is still in the market and that even the *locally* produced sugar takes forever to dissolve. He never said anything was wrong with st Louis sugar .

froz:
The Federal Government has reiterated that the ban place on the importation of packaged sugar four (4) years ago still stand and is in force.


Restating the commitment of government to ensure foreign packaged sugar loses its market chain in Nigeria, the Executive Secretary of National Sugar Development Council (NSDC), Latif Busari noted that the continued smuggling of the product into the country has posed has a hindrance to local producers who are struggling to have a grasp of the market.

Busari in a chat with the media in Abuja on Thursday lamented that, “there is no gain saying the fact that those who engage in illegal importation of this banned product are daily inflicting incalculable damage to local producers of the same commodity in the country. Government cannot afford to look the other way while economic saboteurs who come under the guise of businessmen continue to frustrate genuine efforts geared towards building our economy.”

“Regrettably, despite sustained efforts by the NSDC and other government agencies to protect the interest of local investors in the sugar industry by strictly enforcing the ban on importation of packaged sugar, we have discovered that different brands of this product still line the shelves of big retail outlets and wholesale stores across major cities in the country.”

He stated that, “since the ban was announced, Sugar Council has engaged the major importer of the St. Louis brand that even though Nigeria has been importing the brand for over 53 years, it is time it started its local production in the country if they wanted Nigerians to be consuming it. They sought for and procured an exemption for 18 months to enable them go into partnership with local producers. But two years after the expiration of the exemption, they did not set up any production facilities and while they claim to have stopped its importation we continue to see the brand of cube sugar in our markets.”

Busari noted that, “our position on this matter hasn’t changed; we want importers of banned package sugar to either produce in Nigeria or take them elsewhere. This position is in line with Section 9.3.1 (IV) of the Nigerian Sugar Master Plan (NSMP) as approved.”

“What we are saying is that importers of sugar in retail packs should invest in local packaging facilities within and bring their equipment to Nigeria to produce under the plan, and thereby also help to create jobs for our people” the ES stated.

It will be recall that the Federal Government had in 2013, as part of its efforts to grow the nation’s local sugar industry and attract investments into its downstream segment, banned the importation of packaged sugar into the country as had earlier done for retail packs of vegetable oil, noodle, cement amongst other products.

Busari reaffirmed that “cubing and packaging sugar is not rocket science and there is absolutely no reason why Nigerians with little capital cannot operate in this segment of the sugar industry”, noting that the aim of the banned policy is being defeated by the continued influx of imported package sugar, particularly by the St. Louis brand into Nigeria.

Source : https://brandspurng.com/st-louis-other-foreign-packaged-sugar-brands-remains-banned-in-nigeria-%e2%80%95fg/

here we go again
Ban is not reasonable when there no support for local industries, we Neva do d one way fit feed us well na to ban the ones way dey help our lives since it's all centered on Dangote only. Give equal access to local manufacturers like Dangote, flood the market with locally made sugar n d likes, employment go yakpa, local competition go bring price down jejeli.
Be like say I dey make sense Dis morning

OddBall:
. You are very correct, it amazes me, why dangote has a monopoly on something like sugar. Ordinary sugar....It's not like it's a software or some kind of Patented Technology. To have a monopoly on sugar in the 21st century, in a country of 170million you have to be pulling some kind of "political strings". Which is not helpful to the country at large.

Dangote is Hausa/Fulani.
They own Nigeria. They own the Niger Delta oil also.
That is why the Igbos begged them for Nigeria's unity and the Yorubas work under them.
Dangote gets subsidised foreign exchange while other businesses suffer and perish from high rates.
That is how our country rolls while Igbos and Yoruba people fight over whose tribe is the worst, Hausa/Fulanis are expanding their ownership of our country.
Who is wise? Who is foolish?

EzeeYFB:
here we go again
Ban is not reasonable when there no support for local industries, we Neva do d one way fit feed us well na to ban the ones way dey help our lives since it's all centered on Dangote only. Give equal access to local manufacturers like Dangote, flood the market with locally made sugar n d likes, employment go yakpa, local competition go bring price down jejeli.
Be like say I dey make sense Dis morning

That won't happen.
Because Dangote is a special breed of Nigerians. He is protected with all the favours from the federal government.
Did El-Rufai not pay Boko Haram terrorists masquerading as Fulani herdsmen to reduce their killing of innocent farmers?
Other manufacturers from the 5% parts of the country can suffer and languish, the owners of our country are not bothered.

abbeyty:
But i think that sugar actually made in Nigeria, it might be foreign brand

I don't think there's any made-in-Nigeria sugar. They import the sugar in bulk and repack them in small retail packages. The local investors should be encouraged to go a step further by also producing the sugar locally as Nigeria used to do before.
In any case, I am usually against outright banning of imports. The government should instead increase the tariff to discourage importation and encourage local production.

Whatever happened to TATE & LYLE SUGAR COMPANY in Ilorin in those days. They kept the Nigerian Economy going and they even had a Football Club in the Nigerian League then

Oh Nigeria, where the good leaders are not yet born!

Sacluxpaint:
It is what we use in our office

where is ur office so we can come and investigate how u accessed a banned product. son and nafdac on the way.

seguno2:


Dangote is Hausa/Fulani.
They own Nigeria. They own the Niger Delta oil also.
That is why the Igbos begged them for Nigeria's unity and the Yorubas work under them.
Dangote gets subsidised foreign exchange while other businesses suffer and perish from high rates.
That is how our country rolls while Igbos and Yoruba people fight over whose tribe is the worst, Hausa/Fulanis are expanding their ownership of our country.
Who is wise? Who is foolish?

Interesting analysis of Nigeria.

ELgordo:
Ovoko

You don dey show urself again!

davibid:




Because they want Nigeria to be controlled by Dangote economically

is it not better for dangote to control us than France or whatever to control us ? for all these years why can't st Louise set up a factory in Nigeria like dangote. they keep pushing their sugar to us.

Heromaniaa:
The sugar they package in this country is not sweet. You pour one sachet of Dangote sugar in your pap, and the pap tastes like you added extra water. Is good we ban importation of products that are manufactured in the country, but at the same time we have to ensure the home product is not of substandard quality. If our sugar tastes better and is cheaper, then no one will go through the misery of smuggling St Louis into the country. Then again, we have to be sure we are not advancing Dangote's monopoly If Dangote with his 24/7 access to credit facilities controls 80 percent of the sugar industry, then how effective has d sugar ban been in encouraging local producers??

For now, Dangote has monopoly simply because he is the only person investing heavily in that industry. Other rich Nigerians would rather put their funds abroad or under their "pillows". Nigeria's market is large for anyone who wants to invest especially in Fast moving commodities

Funjosh:
That Sugar is older than me

no advert, but it remained popular and most sought. That sugar get level.

dominique:
It's been long since I saw the St. Louis brand in the markets. Its better it remains banned. The last time I used it, its quality had reduced. I had to put up to four cubes in a mug of tea before I could taste it. Is that one a sugar?
When we develop our local products, foreign companies will come to realize that Nigeria is no longer a dumping ground for their inferior products.

yes, the fake product makers took advantage of the ban and were making counterfeit products since they knew the brand gets much respect from Nigerians.

Patrique90:

You clearly did not read what he wrote before you commented.he said the st Louis sugar is still in the market and that even the *locally* produced sugar takes forever to dissolve. He never said anything was wrong with st Louis sugar .

I read and understand his post clearly.

Yes, sugar branded as St. Louis is still in the market, but am telling you most are not the real St. Louis sugar. I never said you won't get sugar branded like that, I said it wasn't the real thing!

I never commented about the quality of local sugar.

So, the fact that it taste right, dissolves in time mean it is original? You know when lower quality rice is rebaged with bags if higher quality brand? Does it mean the rice won't taste right? Does it make it the same with the higher quality brand you thought you paid for?

AlwaysUltraPad:
yes, the fake product makers took advantage of the ban and were making counterfeit products since they knew the brand gets much respect from Nigerians.

Patrique90. Read this

Heromaniaa:
The sugar they package in this country is not sweet. You pour one sachet of Dangote sugar in your pap, and the pap tastes like you added extra water. Is good we ban importation of products that are manufactured in the country, but at the same time we have to ensure the home product is not of substandard quality. If our sugar tastes better and is cheaper, then no one will go through the misery of smuggling St Louis into the country. Then again, we have to be sure we are not advancing Dangote's monopoly If Dangote with his 24/7 access to credit facilities controls 80 percent of the sugar industry, then how effective has d sugar ban been in encouraging local producers??

You too like sweet thing. Hahaaaaaaaaa

nwachinemelu:
that sugar is still in the market....bought one recently...those nigeria local made sugars takes forever to dissolve in water.

Buy the grounded one

St Louis the best sugar so far.

Dangote's sugar will never dissolve after 15mins inside water..

seguno2:


The fact that it is smuggled does not mean that it is automatically fake, adulterated or counterfeit.
Rice, vegetable oil, vehicles etc are smuggled into our country. Does that mean that they are all fake, adulterated and counterfeit?

Very true!

I see it like this. In case of HIGH quality goods, if a crime is committed while bringing the goods to Market, how am I sure others crimes are not committed on the way!

Do you known what it takes companies to ensure their products are not counterfeited? Lots of man-hours and money. That brand is not being protected like that again. If you know how high counterfeiting efforts are in this country, you won't argue. Any popular brand is counterfeited. So why would smugglers buy high quality products when they can make more money smuggling in others brands, repackaging and selling it as St. Louis?

Even before the ban, fake St Louis are in market!

What I've come to discover is that our problem is not in enacting laws but in successful implementation and enforcement. If we truly do not want to import certain products, which we can produce locally, into the country, then there should be serious sanctions to deter defaulters without prejudice. If you find banned products on any big or small retail outlet shelves, confiscate all the products and handsomely fine the defaulting business. Further deliberate defaulting should attract legal prosecution. Until we have such punitive measures on ground, we aren't yet serious as a nation to join the league of industrial nations.

harrybarn:
Nice move! But doesn't this seem like a structural violence against the producing nations? I mean supposing it was Nigeria's BUA sugar facing such policy say in ghana, it might breach our relationship with them. **Just thinking rational*

Inasmuch as you have a point, the ban has more advantages than disadvantages.