SHALOM!

.    MATTHEW 7:1-6.

“JUDGE not, that ye be not judged.
2. "For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged;
and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be measured to you again.
3. "And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye,
but considerest not the beam
that is in thine own eye?
4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother,

'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE
OUT OF THINE EYE;'

and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5. "Thou Hypocrite,
first cast out the beam
out of thine own eye;
and then shalt thou see clearly
to cast out the mote
out of thy brother's eye.
6. "Give not that which is holy
unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls
before swine,
lest they trample them
under their feet,
and turn again and rend you."

THIS IS WHY I HAVE BEEN PREACHING FOR 25 YEARS, BUT HAVE MADE NO DISCIPLES, AND NO CONVERTS: I TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

.   ACTS 11:26.

26. And it came to pass,
that a whole year,
they assembled themselves
with the Church,
and taught much people.
And the Disciples were called "CHRISTIANS"
first at Antioch.

.   LUKE 14:25-35.

25. And there went great multitudes with him:
and he turned, and said unto them,
26. "If any man come to me,
and hate not his father, and mother,
and wife, and children, and brethren,
and sisters, yea, and his own life also,
he cannot be my Disciple.
27. "And whosoever doth not bear his cross,
and come after me, cannot be my Disciple.
28. "For which of you,
intending to build a tower,
sitteth not down first,
and counteth the cost,
whether he have sufficient to finish it?
29. "Lest haply,
after he hath laid the foundation,
and is not able to finish it,
all that behold it begin to mock him,
30. "Saying,

'THIS MAN BEGAN TO BUILD,
AND WAS NOT ABLE TO FINISH.'

31. "Or what king,
going to make war against another king,
sitteth not down first,
and consulteth whether he be able
with ten thousand
to meet him that cometh against him
with twenty thousand?
32. "Or else,
while the other is yet a great way off,
he sendeth an ambassage,
and desireth conditions of peace.
33. "So likewise, whosoever he be of you
that forsaketh not all that he hath,
he cannot be my Disciple.
34. "Salt is good:
but if the salt have lost his savour,
wherewith shall it be seasoned?
35."It is neither fit for the land,
nor yet for the dunghill;
but men cast it out.
He that hath ears to hear,
let him hear."

.     JOHN 8:30-32.

30. As he spake these Words,
many believed on him.
31. Then said Jesus to those Jews
which believed on him,
"If ye continue in my Word,
(then) are ye my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall know The Truth,
and The Truth shall make you Free."

   [color=#990000]JOHN 15:1-8.

"I AM The True Vine,
and my Father is The Husbandman.
2. "Every branch in me
that beareth not Fruit
He taketh away:
and every branch
that beareth Fruit,
He purgeth it,
that it may bring forth
more Fruit.
3. "Now ye are clean
through the Word
Which I have spoken unto you.
4. "Abide in me, and I in you.
As the branch cannot
bear fruit of itself,
except it abide in the vine;
no more can ye,
except ye abide in me.
5. "I am the Vine,
ye are the Branches:

'HE THAT ABIDETH IN ME
AND I IN HIM,
THE SAME BRINGETH FORTH
MUCH FRUIT:'

for without me ye can do Nothing.
6. "If a man abide not in me,
he is cast forth as a branch,
and is withered;
and men gather them,
and cast them into the Fire,
and they are burned.
7. "If ye abide in me,
and my Words abide in you,
ye shall ask what ye will,
and it shall be done unto you.
8. "Herein is my Father Glorified,

or=#006600]'THAT YE BEAR MUCH FRUIT.'[/color]

so shall ye be my Disciples.

IF YOU WANT TO BECOME A TRUE CHRISTIAN, you MUST become a DISCIPLE of the Lord Yahshua. If you want to become a DISCIPLE of Lord Yahshua, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU! NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT CHOOSE THIS PATH!

Normal people TAKE SATAN'S BRIBES and GO TO HELL- as a NORMAL FAILED HUMAN BEING! That's what NORMAL people do.

So, if someone comes to me, and says he or she is a CHRISTIAN, and LACK FUNDAMENTAL KNOWLEDGE, I KNOW that they are LYING about being CHRISTIANS. They are NORMAL!

.     [b]LUKE 11:52-54.

52. "Woe unto you, lawyers!
For ye have taken away The Key of Knowledge:
ye entered not in yourselves,
and them that were entering in ye hindered."

53. And as he said these things unto them,
the scribes and the Pharisees
began to urge him vehemently,
and to provoke him to speak of many things:
54. Laying wait for him,
and seeking to catch
something out of his mouth,
that they might accuse him.

GIVEN THE QUALITY OF CHURCH INSTRUCTION TODAY, YOU PROBABLY WOULD NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THESE WERE NOT NICE AFTERNOON CHATS, AS WITH TEA AND BISCUITS, THE LORD WAS HAVING WITH THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES!

The Lord was FIGHTING TENACIOUSLY for HIS LIFE, and the lives of his Disciples! If he said THE WRONG THING, they might ALL BE SUMMARILY EXECUTED! Maybe you figured that out. I am certain that you NEVER figured THIS out, too: THEY TOO, WERE FIGHTING FOR THEIR OWN LIVES, ALSO! If THEY went TOO FAR in trying to trap Yahshua in an incriminating statement, THEY WOULD BE EXECUTED TOO!

Their Worldly Goods would have been SHARED amongst their EXECUTIONERS- that was what PAUL was doing, when we first met him- everyone whose clothes were at his feet would get to SHARE STEPHEN'S ASSETS- which, after a BOGUS PRAYER, they would RIP from his WIDOW, if he had one.

That is how ABOMINABLE the Scribes and Pharisees were!

The Pharisee who tried to trap Lord Yahshua into saying that THE SACRIFICES and THE TEMPLE were ALL WORTHLESS would have DIED, TOO- and be PERFECTLY OKAY WITH THAT, so long as HIS Death would KILL THAT "FALSE PROPHET" YAHSHUA, too. Glory.

.   JUDGES 16:30.

30. And Samson said,
"Let me die with the Philistines."
And he bowed himself
with all his might;
and the house fell upon the lords,
and upon all the people
that were therein.
So the dead which he slew at his death
were more than they
which he slew in his life.

THIS WAS CONSIDERED "GOOD FORM" BY THE JEWS. Hero.

Ignorance of this attitude- by IDIOT CHRISTIANS who would not get "Saved" until they were REASSURED that they could "STILL WATCH VIDEOS," "PLAY SOCCER, AND STUFF," and wear "EARRINGS,""WIGS," "LIPSTICK," and "TROUSERS," leads to the TOTAL INABILITY to COMPREHEND what PAUL DID: namely, KILL HIMSELF, so that ALL CHRISTIANS would ALSO DIE.

By telling WICKED EMPEROR NERO that AN ALTERATIVE WAY to FORCE Yahshua to MANIFEST to HIM, was to KILL AS MANY CHRISTIANS AS WAS POSSIBLE- because IT HAD WORKED FOR HIM!

That was his TESTIMONY to Emperor NERO- who reputedly set fire to ROME, so that he could say that THE CHRISTIANS did it, round them up, and EXECUTE THEM. Paul PLANNED that, DELIBERATELY- in DIRECT VIOLATION of the Lord's EXPLICIT Commandment:

.    MATTHEW 7:6.

6. "Give not that which is holy
unto the dogs,
neither cast ye your pearls
before swine,
lest they trample them
under their feet,
and turn again and rend you."

THEREFORE, CHRISTIANS HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT THEY TELL UNBELIEVERS, LEST IT BE USED TO DESTROY THEM, AND THE CHURCH!

There are people who tout this TOTALLY-IMAGINARY nice-guy wimp image of WHITE JESUS- who never spoke harshly to anyone, was always gentle and kind to Sinners and Brethren, Unbelievers and Hypocrites alike, Who apologetically begged for people to "PLEASE CONE AND BE SAVED, JUST AS YOU ARE?

.     LUKE 19:41-48.

41. And when he was come near,
he beheld the city, and wept over it,
42. Saying,

"If thou hadst known,
even thou,
at least in this thy day,
The Things which belong unto thy Peace!
But now they are hid from thine eyes.
43. "For the days shall come upon thee,
that thine enemies shall
cast a trench about thee,
and compass thee round,
and keep thee in on every side,
44. "And shall lay thee even with the ground,
and thy children within thee;
and they shall not leave in thee
one stone upon another;
because thou knewest not the Time of thy Visitation."

45. And he went into The Temple,
and began to cast out them that sold therein,
and them that bought;
46. Saying unto them,

"It is Written,

'MY HOUSE IS THE HOUSE OF PRAYER:
BUT YE HAVE MADE IT A DEN OF THIEVES.' "

47. And he taught daily in The Temple.
But the Chief Priests and the Scribes
and the Chief of the People
sought to destroy him,
48. And could not find what they might do:
for all the people were very attentive to hear him.

THERE COMES A TIME WHEN HYPOCRITES HAVE TO BE STRIPED LIKE DOGS.

When you hit someone, and they react to it, you know that they HATE YAHWEH GOD, having NO RESPECT for His Son, Yahshua.

.    DEUTERONOMY 25:1-4.

IF there be a controversy between men,
and they come unto judgment,
that the judges may judge them;
then they shall justify the Righteous,
and condemn the Wicked.
2. And it shall be, if the Wicked man
be worthy to be beaten,
that the judge shall cause him
to lie down,
and to be beaten before his face,
according to his fault,
by a certain number.
3. Forty stripes he may give him,
and not exceed:
lest, if he should exceed,
and beat him above these
with many stripes,
then thy Brother
should seem vile unto thee.
4. Thou shalt not muzzle the ox
when he treadeth out (the corn).

.     DEUTERONOMY 25:13-16.

13. Thou shalt not
have in thy bag divers weights,
a great and a small.
14. Thou shalt not have
in thine house divers measures,
a great and a small.
15. But thou shalt have
a perfect and just weight,
a perfect and just measure
shalt thou have:
that thy days may be
lengthened in the land
which the LORD thy God
giveth thee.
16. For all that do such things,
and all that do unrighteously,
are an Abomination
unto The LORD thy God.

.    MATTHEW 5:38-48.

38. "Ye have heard
that it hath been said,

'AN EYE FOR AN EYE,
AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH:'

39. "But I say unto you,

'THAT YE RESIST NOT EVIL:
BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL SMITE THEE
ON THY RIGHT CHEEK,
TURN TO HIM
THE OTHER ALSO.'

40. "And if any man
will sue thee at the Law,
and take away thy coat,
let him have thy cloke also.
41. "And whosoever shall compel thee
to go a mile,
go with him twain.
42. "Give to him that asketh thee,
and from him that would
borrow of thee
turn not thou away.
43. "Ye have heard that it hath been said,

'THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR,
AND HATE THINE ENEMY.'

44. "But I say unto you,

'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES,
BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU,
DO GOOD TO THEM THAT HATE YOU,
AND PRAY FOR THEM
WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU,
AND PERSECUTE YOU;'

45. "That ye may be The Children
of your Father Which is in Heaven:
for He maketh His Sun to rise
on the Evil and on the Good,
and sendeth rain on the Just
and on the Unjust.
46. "For if ye love them which love you,
what Reward have ye?
Do not even the publicans the same?
47. "And if ye salute your Brethren only,
what do ye more than others?
Do not even the publicans so?
48. "Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father
Which is in Heaven is Perfect."

IS SUCH A PERSON AS CANNOT OBEY THE LEAST COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD SOMEONE WHOM YOU WOULD ENTRUST YOUR SOUL TO?

. EXODUS 20:16.

16. "Thou shalt not bear False Witness
Against thy Neighbour."

THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE CONTACT WAS TO OBTAIN PEARLS TO USE AGAINST ME.

.    MATTHEW 6:5-15.

5. "And when thou prayest,
thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are:
for they love to pray standing in the synagogues
and in the corners of the streets,
that they may be seen of men.
Verily I say unto you,

'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

6. "But thou, when thou prayest,
enter into thy closet,
and when thou hast shut thy door,
pray to thy Father Which is In Secret;
and thy Father which seeth In Secret
shall Reward thee openly.
7. "But when ye pray,
use not vain repetitions,
as the Heathen do:
for they think that they shall be heard
for their much speaking.
8. "Be not ye therefore like unto them:
for your Father Knoweth
what things ye have need of,
before ye ask Him.
9. "After this manner therefore pray ye:

'OUR FATHER WHICH ART IN HEAVEN,
HALLOWED BE THY NAME.
10. 'THY KINGDOM COME.
THY WILL BE DONE IN EARTH,
AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
11. 'GIVE US THIS DAY
OUR DAILY BREAD.
12. 'AND FORGIVE US OUR DEBTS,
AS WE FORGIVE OUR DEBTORS.
13. 'AND LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION,
BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL:
FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM,
AND THE POWER,
AND THE GLORY,
FOR EVER.
AMEN.'

14. "For if ye forgive men their Trespasses,
your Heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15. "But if ye forgive not men their Trespasses,
neither will your Father forgive your Trespasses."

.    MARK 11:25-26.

25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have aught against any,
that your Father also
Which is in Heaven
may forgive you your Trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your trespasses.”

.    JOHN 14:15.

15. "If ye love me,
keep my Commandments."

.    1^st JOHN 5:3.

3. For this is The Love of God,

'THAT WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS:'

and His Commandments are not grievous.

HOW CAN SOMEONE APPROACH ME, WITHOUT IDENTIFYING THEMSELVES, AND DEMAND THAT I TELL THEM HOW TO LIVE THEIR LIVES, WHEN I DO NOT KNOW THEIR RELIGION?

This "MARTINEZ19" person certainly does not believe on Lord YAHSHUA! He claims not to know his most Fundamental Teaching: FORGIVENESS.

No Sinner can get anywhere with God without FORGIVING OTHER SINNERS.

.    [u]MATTHEW 18:21-22.]/u]

21. Then came Peter to him,
and said,

"Lord, how oft shall my Brother Sin against me,
and I forgive him?
Till seven times?"

22. Jesus saith unto him,

"I say not unto thee,

'UNTIL SEVEN TIMES:'

but,

'UNTIL SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN.' "

HEARTFELT FORGIVENESS IS INTERNAL- BUT IT BEARS EXTERNALLY-VISIBLE FRUITS.

People who harbour HATRED in their hearts CANNOT make CONNECTIONS nor DRAW CONCLUSIONS that are OBVIOUS to those who LOVE THEIR NEIGHBOURS AS THEMSELVES.

SIMON PETER hated his Neighbours and his Brethren, therefore he WANTED his OBLIGATION to FORGIVE to be LIMITED!

MALCHUS did ONE thing, and Peter taught him a whole new meaning to the phrase: "LEND ME YOUR EAR!"

ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA allegedly did ONE THING, and PETER DECIDED to END their lives. That is how THE CHURCH FORFEITED THE POWER OVER DEATH!

The Name of Yahshua is used to RECRUIT people into False Churches, but what ALL FALSE CHURCHES have in common is that THEY DO NOT FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST THEM, NOR LOVE THEIR NEIGHBOURS AS THEMSELVES. Either of those things would have delivered them.

The FUNDAMENTAL GRUDGE that ALL SINNERS HOLD against others is: "THOU ART NOT ME!" RIGHTEOUSNESS cannot be attained, until one has OVERCOME that STUPID EXCUSE for NOT LOVING THEIR NEIGHBOUR AS THEMSELVES.

I would like to ask you a question so that I can have something to use when I help you increase your much prized "views" on Nairaland.


Are you really paid by the Oyinbos to deceive Africans with the FICTIONAL novels of hallucinogenic drug induced FANTASY, NAGUALISM and Celestine Prophecy.

During the "Hippie" drug age in America many whites lives were destroyed by FICTIONAL fantasy NAGUALISM. They were conned into believing it was reality.

What a thread .....even the devil has the Bible.....

To OP, must you quote them to make a point

You have not made any point though.

follow the pattern of Jesus Christ.....what did He do during His 3yrs ministry on earth
How was His services to Humanity

He preached to thousands.
He fed them
He healed them
He drove demons out of them
He raised the dead.
He washed their feet
He never collected tithe, offerings or seed from the crowd that followed him or from the worshipers in the temple
He answered all their questions
He paid tax to the government of the day
He drove out marketers from the church

All manners of miracles..why don't you go and do likewise.