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When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by kenny987(f): 6:12am On Jun 21, 2017
Mike Odeholonta

HATE SPEECHES?
When they said "kare jini, biri jini" (meaning the dog and the baboon would bath in blood)", it was not hate speech.
When they said "if power does not go to the north, we would make the country ungovernable", it was not hate speech.
When they teach their children to call you "arne" (meaning pagan in Hausa), it was not hate speech.
When they preach violence all over their mosque in the North, it was not hate speech.

When they said " an attack on Boko Haram is an attack on the north-their kinsmen", it was north hate speech.
When they said " Ku kasa, ku tsare, Ku raka. Duk Wanda ya saya a hanyan Ku, Ku raunana shi", (meaning in Hausa: cast, protect, and escort your votes, anyone standing on your way, injure him), it was not hate speech.

When their hero Ahmadu Bello in the Parrot newspaper of 12th-october 1960 immediately after independence said:
"The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grandfather Othman Dan Fodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We use the minorities in the north as willing tools and the south as conquered territory and never allow them to rule over us and never allow them to have control over their future", it was not hate speech.

THEN WHEN IS IT HATE SPEECH?

It is when Pastor Oyedepo tells us to defend yourself against assailants that kill us and burn our villages with no arrests made.
It is when Apostle Johnson Suleiman tells us to defend ourselves when assailants mutilate and mame us, and also rape our women, with no condemnation from them or the government.

It is when Pastor Chris Okafor tells us to stand up for our rights in the face of perceived injustice.
It is when Chief Femi Fani Kayode, painstakingly writes excavating their inmost devilish plans, and daring to tell the truth about their insatiable quest for blood, and unquenchable desire for power at the expense of our lives, and exposing their plots from its roots.
It is when we start realizing and speaking out in self defence, for the sake of ourselves, our children, and children's children.

They want us to keep quite while their age long plans to exterminate us smoulder and fester.
They want us to be cowards and remain in perpetual silence while they redesign our destiny.
They want to continue in their shrewd and subtle approach to be barbaric while we are civilized.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

Start talking, speak out, say it as it is. Nigeria belongs to all of us.
Nobody has monopoly of violence.
SPEAK OUT AND ACT.
Prepare for the worst and Defend yourself from people that considers us less human.
"God has not not given us the spirit of fear".

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Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by kenny987(f): 6:15am On Jun 21, 2017
Funny enough, all of these nasty utterances predate Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB but Nigerians with notoriously short memories will claim Igbos n IPOB started all d hate speeches therefore it is alright to threaten a tribe which still remains a part of Nigeria, an unfortunate situation really.

For those eejits that myopically claim that since Igbos want Biafra, the quit notice by barbarians up North is the answer to that desire, when will you have sense and grow some brains n balls? In all incidents of separation of countries especially in d developed climes we seek to emulate, where have u seen such tactics that only breed blood and war?

Why is it impossible to have a national discourse that places every card on the table including break-up? Who says there cannot be mature n peaceful relations between neighbours rather than the perpetual rancour and bad blood of one Nigeria? Mr VP has even decided that it is criminal to complain or demand separation so what is he doing to get to the root of the problems leading to the complaints, agitation and threats?

The demand for a referendum and ultimate separation is not a battle cry, it is a right to self-determination enshrined in international conventions and even the domesticated African charter. Why then do y'all persist in mischievous justification of war n bloodshed?

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Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by Horlufemi(m): 6:41am On Jun 21, 2017
OP hate speech is hate speech.
Arewa youths, Nnamdi Kanu all of them.

Stop being paranoid
Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by kenny987(f): 7:03am On Jun 21, 2017
Horlufemi:
OP hate speech is hate speech.
Arewa youths, Nnamdi Kanu all of them.

Stop being paranoid

This is not paranoia, it is a call to reflection and an understanding of what hate speeches are. If they are all hate speeches why is one being punished and not the other? Where are the Arewa youths that should have been arrested and subjected to same treatment as Nnamdi Kanu? Where is the policeman that posted on facebook that he'll kill 200 Southerners of Buhari dies? The Police is still investigating abi?

Nigeria has long existed like a lawless contraption or one with selective application of law. That is why it is justified to call it a zoo. Otherwise, how can police officers who should be professional in their dealings be seen taking happy pictures with a criminal like Evans? Now it is in the news that they even looted his house and stole hard currencies for themselves!

How can political office holders blatantly divert and corner funds meant for public use and they go scot-free whilst one who steals food or petty cash is nearly bludgeoned to death or handed harsh prison sentences?

How do u justify the wickedly unequal cut off marks for children in the South n the North and swallow the claim of their being educationally disadvantaged yet they occupy all sensitive and important positions of power n authority? Does it make sense that such disparities are still maintained till date rather than have the gaps gradually closed?

How does a president who should serve as a rallying point for all regions decide to make it a point to punish his idea of 5% votes in a democracy? How can a country like Nigeria in this day n age still lack potable water yet it is not even an arid region? Why do u have a people that justify the forceful rape and marriage of underage girls? Aren't they pedophiles? Are all of these not indications of wild existence reminiscent of the wild animals in a zoo?

People need to get the perspective of NK's comments; it is a wake-up call to see the madness and squalor we seem to have accepted! There is no gentle way to get the attention of the elite that have crippled this country so rather than just critique without more, his choice of words which I consider harsh but painfully true, understand the message behind it and act on it!

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Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by thesicilian: 7:30am On Jun 21, 2017
A foreigner calling my country a zoo is hate speech to me.
Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by fulanmafia: 8:10am On Jun 21, 2017
"We will burn down the zoo" & "Kill any Yoorobber and Fulani b*stard that asks you about Radio Biafra" is hate speech at its finest.

Repeated daily and broadcast globally through terrestrial and Internet radio. Worse still, the purveyor of this hate speech is now recognised as an Ibo leader which implies that his methods and utterances are ratified by Ibo politicians and youths alike.

Hate speech from any quarter is plain wrong and primordial.

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Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by zombieHUNTER: 8:32am On Jun 21, 2017
fulanmafia:
"We will burn down the zoo" & "Kill any Yoorobber and Fulani b*stard that asks you about Radio Biafra" is hate speech at its finest.

Repeated daily and broadcast globally through terrestrial and Internet radio. Worse still, the purveyor of this hate speech is now recognised as an Ibo leader which implies that his methods and utterances are ratified by Ibo politicians and youths alike.

Hate speech from any quarter is plain wrong and primordial.
Lies from the pit of hell
Anything you tell yourself to sleep at night
Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by kenny987(f): 8:33am On Jun 21, 2017
fulanmafia:
"We will burn down the zoo" & "Kill any Yoorobber and Fulani b*stard that asks you about Radio Biafra" is hate speech at its finest.

Repeated daily and broadcast globally through terrestrial and Internet radio. Worse still, the purveyor of this hate speech is now recognised as an Ibo leader which implies that his methods and utterances are ratified by Ibo politicians and youths alike.

Hate speech from any quarter is plain wrong and primordial.

Beyond the fanciful romance of the phrase 'hate speech'', it is a call to reflection and an understanding of what hate speeches are. Mind you that his reference to burning down the zoo is figurative ie to burn ut down with the truth! The problem is people pick off stuff here n there n knock them together as justification for wickedness.

Now, if they are all hate speeches why is one being punished and not the other? Where are the Arewa youths that should have been arrested and subjected to same treatment as Nnamdi Kanu? Where is the policeman that posted on facebook that he'll kill 200 Southerners of Buhari dies? The Police is still investigating abi?

It also means all the Hausas n fulanis, particularly the muslims subscribe to n ratufy all instances of hate speeches perpetrated by your people and even worse, there is no message to be gleaned from their dirty postulations other hate n the desire to kill. To crown it all, the North has put their wicked words into practice over n again as in d case of Bridget in Kano whose killers the court let loose without punishment courtesy of the AG. There's lots more!

Which Igbo man has killed any person of any other tribe whether in Igboland or wherever they have settled? Why do u stop at your idea of hate speech from Nnamdi Kanu? What about the underlying causes and issues which have constantly been raised from the time of the civil war till date? A place that selectively applies its laws consistently is worse than a zoo and deserves to be razed down!
Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by Horlufemi(m): 10:05am On Jun 21, 2017
kenny987:


This is not paranoia, it is a call to reflection and an understanding of what hate speeches are. If they are all hate speeches why is one being punished and not the other? Where are the Arewa youths that should have been arrested and subjected to same treatment as Nnamdi Kanu? Where is the policeman that posted on facebook that he'll kill 200 Southerners of Buhari dies? The Police is still investigating abi?

Nigeria has long existed like a lawless contraption or one with selective application of law. That is why it is justified to call it a zoo. Otherwise, how can police officers who should be professional in their dealings be seen taking happy pictures with a criminal like Evans? Now it is in the news that they even looted his house and stole hard currencies for themselves!

How can political office holders blatantly divert and corner funds meant for public use and they go scot-free whilst one who steals food or petty cash is nearly bludgeoned to death or handed harsh prison sentences?

How do u justify the wickedly unequal cut off marks for children in the South n the North and swallow the claim of their being educationally disadvantaged yet they occupy all sensitive and important positions of power n authority? Does it make sense that such disparities are still maintained till date rather than have the gaps gradually closed?

How does a president who should serve as a rallying point for all regions decide to make it a point to punish his idea of 5% votes in a democracy? How can a country like Nigeria in this day n age still lack potable water yet it is not even an arid region? Why do u have a people that justify the forceful rape and marriage of underage girls? Aren't they pedophiles? Are all of these not indications of wild existence reminiscent of the wild animals in a zoo?

People need to get the perspective of NK's comments; it is a wake-up call to see the madness and squalor we seem to have accepted! There is no gentle way to get the attention of the elite that have crippled this country so rather than just critique without more, his choice of words which I consider harsh but painfully true, understand the message behind it and act on it!


It isn't news that Nigeria has a problem.

The problems are there because of the effects of a cultural problem. We lack values. We selfish, lack empathy. We lack genuine love.

I'm in no way supporting anyone but hate speech is hate speech. By Buhari, arewa youths, Nnamdi Kanu and anyone who says we should kill others. It's not a tribe matter.

What you do when people make such statements you condemn them be it NK, Buhari or arewa youths. It's not about taking sides. It's the right thing to do.

We are our own problems
Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by kenny987(f): 10:21am On Jun 21, 2017
Horlufemi:


We are our own problem.

And? Is that all? Rather than admit that there is more to the whole madness than the mere hate-speech rhetoric, u conveniently fall back to the 'we are our own problem' stance? Will u at least not criticise and condemn those that have insisted on bucking the norm and provoking questions however the method employed? It is not as if people have not been writing papers and making speeches but what has come out of it? If you are unable to ask questions at least respect those who can even at the risk of their freedom, properties and lives because in the long run it is to the benefit of all. After all it is an open secret that a good number of you are poised to cash in on the opportunity s that once Biafra is formed the Oduduwa will also come into being, is that not so?

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Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by Horlufemi(m): 10:27am On Jun 21, 2017
kenny987:


And? Is that all? Rather than admit that there is more to the whole madness than the mere hate-speech rhetoric, u conveniently fall back to the 'we are our own problem' stance? Will u at least not criticise and condemn those that have insisted on bucking the norm and provoking questions however the method employed? It is not as if people have not been writing papers and making speeches but what has come out of it? If you are unable to ask questions at least respect those who can even at the risk of their freedom, properties and lives because in the long run it is to the benefit of all. After all it is an open secret that a good number of you are poised to cash in on the opportunity s that once Biafra is formed the Oduduwa will also come into being, is that not so?

Recheck my quote. I don't know what happened to what I typed
Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by EmeeNaka: 10:43am On Jun 21, 2017
kenny987:
Funny enough, all of these nasty utterances predate Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB but Nigerians with notoriously short memories will claim Igbos n IPOB started all d hate speeches therefore it is alright to threaten a tribe which still remains a part of Nigeria, an unfortunate situation really.

For those eejits that myopically claim that since Igbos want Biafra, the quit notice by barbarians up North is the answer to that desire, when will you have sense and grow some brains n balls? In all incidents of separation of countries especially in d developed climes we seek to emulate, where have u seen such tactics that only breed blood and war?

Why is it impossible to have a national discourse that places every card on the table including break-up? Who says there cannot be mature n peaceful relations between neighbours rather than the perpetual rancour and bad blood of one Nigeria? Mr VP has even decided that it is criminal to complain or demand separation so what is he doing to get to the root of the problems leading to the complaints, agitation and threats?

The demand for a referendum and ultimate separation is not a battle cry, it is a right to self-determination enshrined in international conventions and even the domesticated African charter. Why then do y'all persist in mischievous justification of war n bloodshed?
The problems in Nigeria comes from Southwest Nigeria. I don't want to mention tribe but frankly,they, Southwest support everything bad in Nigeria, they led the world to believe that the 1966 coup was an Igbo coup but subsequent coups were Nigeria army coup.
They led the country to different series of violence while hiding under their pressrooms, They led the nation to stage a one week siege on Nigeria economy under President Jonathan claiming fuel subsidy removal. They supported Boko Haram against Nigerians, lying throughout Nigeria and Western world and in all these,they will keep lying that their people are peace loving people. They led Buhari govt to believing that Only those that voted for him will benefit from his govt by claiming all over the media,that Igbos put their eggs in one basket.Now they're all over internet calling Hausa people to kill Igbo people, because Igbos want Biafra and are making hateful comments but they have never protested against Fulani herdsmen that terrorizes them and others on daily basis, they will never see anything wrong in all the hateful comments made by North, they will come and blame Igbos later.
Those people are the problem of Nigeria.

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Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by kenny987(f): 10:45am On Jun 21, 2017
Horlufemi:


Recheck my quote. I don't know what happened to what I typed

Horlufemi:


It isn't news that Nigeria has a problem.

The problems are there because of the effects of a cultural problem. We lack values. We selfish, lack empathy. We lack genuine love.

I'm in no way supporting anyone but hate speech is hate speech. By Buhari, arewa youths, Nnamdi Kanu and anyone who says we should kill others. It's not a tribe matter.

What you do when people make such statements you condemn them be it NK, Buhari or arewa youths. It's not about taking sides. It's the right thing to do.

We are our own problems

You seem not to get my point. Does merely condemning hate speech change or solve the problem? Do you not realise that you need a sane and healthy environment to fully give and receive empathy, values, genuine love and so on? It doesn't just happen! The stage must be set for good living and that is what Biafra is about! Re-negotiate the existence of Nigeria along the lines of equity and justice or an outright split! In fact, the Igbos, having borne the brunt of the madness that is Nigeria are fed up and want out, that is why Biafra has never died despite the loss of the civil war. You must go beyond statements made, they were actually made to wake up dead consciences!
Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by kenny987(f): 11:26am On Jun 21, 2017
Horlufemi:


It isn't news that Nigeria has a problem.

The problems are there because of the effects of a cultural problem. We lack values. We selfish, lack empathy. We lack genuine love.

I'm in no way supporting anyone but hate speech is hate speech. By Buhari, arewa youths, Nnamdi Kanu and anyone who says we should kill others. It's not a tribe matter.

What you do when people make such statements you condemn them be it NK, Buhari or arewa youths. It's not about taking sides. It's the right thing to do.

We are our own problems

You may want to read this too:

"TO HELL WITH ALL THE NAYSAYERS, STATUS QUO AGITATORS AND UNFORTUNATE IGBO ELITE APOLOGISTS

By Nnaemeka Obiaraeri

I don't feel angry or frustrated, anytime I read any article or posts by a Yoruba or Hausa/Fulani person questioning what Ndi Igbo mean by these unending cry of marginalization in Nigeria . This is expected because people that enjoy deliberately created advantages over their competition will always want it to remain so and will hardly give it up unless pressed to the wall.

However, I get deeply perplexed, any time I read such queries from someone, who bear the Igbo name, especially, those who migrated abroad to escape the suffocating environment back home.

Anyway, for the umpteenth time, I would devote time again on this space to enlighten once more, all those who have shown genuine or mischievous lack of understanding and comprehension of what the Igbo agitation is all about .

I wish to God, I can help you understand. But I will try again.

NOW TO THE KERNEL OF THE MATTER

1. Please kindly note that the Igbo agitation is not a hatred towards any ethnic group or people . I don't know why people are pushing such wicked narratives . I don't know what those driving it want to achieve . Perhaps, to draw opprobrium towards Ndi Igbo.

2. The Igbo agitation is not to occupy the Presidency or to be given all the juicy political appointments in Abuja. We don't need it . Those who occupied those positions in the past benefitted only their filthy pockets.

3. The Igbo agitation is not to be given the Oil wells in the Niger delta or the land mass of the North or the resources of west. No it is not. If it is, we would not be at the vanguard of the call for resource control in Nigeria.

4. The Igbo agitation is simply for Nigeria to give level playing ground to every/all the stakeholders within the Nigerian space/perfect . The Igbo agitation is an unequivocal demand for equity, justice, fairness, equality and excellence to all.

5. To be more specific, the Igbos demand for a total restructuring of Nigeria to what we had in 1963, that was beneficial to all. What this simply means is that the Igbos demand for a redrawing of the fiscal, governance, political, socioeconomic, resource control and autonomous architecture of Nigeria to enable her people and other peoples that make up Nigeria to develop their home stead at their own pace and at their own terms without being stifled of their entrepreneurial and enterprising spirits.

6. If the autonomous, resource control, governance and fiscal architecture of Nigeria is overhauled to what we had in 1963, with the exclusive list for the FGN reduced to just control of defence and foreign relations of Nigeria, giving them only 20% of our national revenues, If the six regions are allowed to control 50% of whatever they produce within their land and allowed to build, develop their own infrastructure and enter into whatever alliances that can enhance the growth of their infrastructure and human capital without the overbearing influence of Abuja. The following things will happen:

#Ndi Igbo will now be able to enter into alliances with the SS region to create mutually beneficial sea pathways into ala Igbo without recourse to Abuja.

#What this means is that all the trillions of naira, jobs, physical, fiscal and infrastructural development that are concentrated in Lagos, will now move to Aba and Onitsha. Our containers shall be cleared in Onitsha and Aba. Those importers and big businessmen that struggle to buy houses in Banana Island, Lekki and VI at cut throat prices will now create their own plantain Islands nearer home by the coast of the Niger river near the overhead bridge. Many will relocate home.

#Autonomy will also allow the regional government of the SE to negotiate and attract consulate presence of the US, UK, EU, China and other countries in Enugu and Owerri. What this means is that my aged mother will not come to Lagos or travel to Abuja to secure her visa to travel abroad. She will not have to waste my resources flying to Lagos. She won't need to come to Lagos for a connecting flight to Dubai. Just imagine the aggregate and cumulative jobs, fiscal, physical and infrastructural development that this arrangement will bring.

#Autonomy and Resource control will allow the SE regional government to develop her education system that suits her people and will not suffer the ignominy of having her sons who score 200/300 in a federal common entrance exam denied admission into a Federal school, only to allot his position to a kid from Zamfara who scored 4/300.

#Autonomy, Resource control and fiscal federalism, will allow the regional government of the SE the latitude and constitutional unencumberances to enter into partnerships with the regions of the SS or SW or NC to develop rail system links that connects even to outside niegbouring countries in such viable designs and structures that is not subject to the overbearing influences of Abuja. Igbos love PPP.

Igbos are commercial oriented and will not mind several toll projects that will develop ala igbo, unlike our neighbours who love freebies and will want us to build unviable highways and site projects that leads to no where just to satisfy nepotistic inclinations and put the debt burden on others.

It will also allow Ndi Igbo to harness and tap into all the solid mineral resources and natural resources that God endowed us with, without recourse to Abuja and external limitations.

It will also enable us have our regional police that can easily checkmate home grown crimes and stop the murderous antics of the terrorist herdsmen .

If these international sea , air and land gateways are created in the SE region , many Igbo owned businesses sited in other regions will relocate to the homeland.

If Nigeria is restructured today to what we had in1963; this agitation and cry for marginalisation will stop immediately .

Ndi Igbo do not seek to take anyone's land without paying for it. We don't want a beggarly feeding bottle federalism.

That the other ethnic nationalities are okay with the rot and perfidy in the land does not mean we should keep quiet. We complain louder than others because the current wicked, warped, fraudulent and mediocre driven Nigerian structures stifles our enterprise and free spirit.

For folks like you and all those who claim that the outcry of the people of the SE are misplaced, I hope you will come around and appreciate what this agitation is all about .

Let's stop spreading some of these shallow narratives. Let's dig deeper to unearth the root causative agents that feeds this agitation so as to provide the required lasting and sustainable solutions to it. No more elixirs or opiates."
Re: When Is It 'Hate Speech'?! Only When Nnamdi Kanu Speaks? by Chigorkizz(m): 11:56am On Jun 21, 2017
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