Optimist88:
In our days back in the university, most of my guys want to go to CE because you will be welcomed with a 'Holy kiss' from a sexy sister! You're new as a guy, you receive a wet kiss!

akagaba:
Op, wake up... as soon as u left, 500 more people walked in so dont come here and disgrace urself. If u have allowed d devil to take a hold of u, then seek deliverance somehwere becus so many lives are being changed and transformed in Christ Embassy. We dont preach sin in CE cuz thats not what God asked us to preach. We rather preach the goodnews of the gospel of our Lord Jesus and thats the gudnews that brings sinners to God.

For money matter, its only a poor man that speaks d way u do. We give big, very very big in CE and thats becuz we serve a big God so deal with ur poverty.

fyneguy:


You were a Christ Embassy member yet you posted the message below (see bolded part):

: Shun The Love Of Money _pastor Chris by Marchman: 11:59pm On Oct 07, 2015
This is really surprising coming from Pastor Chris cos ive not a seen a more money loving and grabbing church than Christ Embassy which has commercialised every aspect of the gospel. Everything in the church is paid for. Nothing is given free. If that is not love for money I wonder what is.

Then there is a giving which is greater than Joagbaje'' socalled principle. it is giving in love with no expectations of what you get in return. Christ exemplified this by giving his life. That is what the Good Samaritans did too. In all of Christ message that is what he taught. Today it is different with the socalled prosperity gospel. Avery selfish and self serving religion that is all about you and your prosperity.

And Mr. Agbaje, i know of many people in your church who have followed your principle and are very broke because of it. very broke.


So much for a christian who posted this:

: Please Save Me From Myself, My Husband Cheated On Me, I Tried To Kill Myself by Marchman: 4:47pm On Jun 03, 2015
What's the big deal that he cheated? All men cheat. Take your eyes off his phone and you will be fine!

Marchman:
I have not posted in a while but if you have followed my previous posts, you would know that I used to attend Christ Embassy Church, even though I had reservations about some of their teachings. I finally left the church, phew!
I will use this thread to explain why I quit the church and why I may never attend another Pentecostal/Charismatic church which now appears to me like a sole proprietorship, with the General Overseer or lead pastor as the owner.

1. Excessive premium on Giving money

In Christ Embassy the number one thing they lay emphasis on is giving money. The church can use any tactic to get money from members, including manipulation, threats and the likes. While there is nothing wrong with giving money or time, I believe everything should be balanced and moderate. I think that was why St Paul said we should not give out of target, or threat but as we decide in our heart. In CE, there is nothing like moderation or balance when it comes to giving. They tend to believe literally that everything answers to money. You don’t have a job, give and sow seed. You are infertile, give and sow seed. Your father is sick, give and sow seed. Every message ends with a charge to give money. They collect tithes, offerings, partnerships (money), seeds (more money), first fruits (your whole income in January) and plethora of others.

You are also charged to give for Pastor Chris’s birthday and for all the other pastors. And for projects and the likes too.

Before I started worshipping with the Church, I read the story of the account clerk at the Sheraton Hotel who stole from his employers to give to the church. As a member, I could relate with the man. The Church is obsessed with money. They do not mind how or where you get it. If you want to rise or be noticed or win awards, just give big money. It is this obsession with money that led it to start collecting gate fees from members for its New Year Service at the LoveWorld Convocation Arena in Lagos, which ironically was built by the offerings of the members charged to get in. A lot of people I know personally had gone broke, had their businesses ruined, or fallen out with a loved one because of this teaching by the church.

In summary, at CE, money is everything- EVERYTHING.

PVision2020:

I must to follow this fine geh go church
I must to follow this fine geh go church... Hope thugs will not break my head 4 AG sha?

Marchman:
2. Sin Means Nothing at CE
Their teaching regarding to sin is so liberal. They rarely even mention it. The belief is that a Christian cannot sin, but only do wrong. The implicit message here is that ‘if you are saved, you are always saved’. You are a son of God and nothing you do or do not do can change the fact. In other words, heaven is sure. I am really not versed in the Bible to argue with this but what I know is that, this teaching is dangerous. It is like giving one a blank cheque or immunity from sin. What you have is a morally decadent church, starting from the top. Sexual sins are so rampant. You must have read the allegations of Pst Anita against her husband, that he was screwing some top female pastors. Such allegations are common in the church and I believe Pst Anita was very naïve in not understanding what was happening under her nose for decades!

It is not just PSt Chris that has been accused of fornication; his younger brother Rev Ken was also accused of impregnating a member of the South African Church when he pastored it. My friend who was in the church at that time (he also has left) told me that in all practical terms, Rev Ken had a harem in SA, with all manners of girls, mainly young university girls, living in his house. His wife was leading the church at Isolo, Lagos at that time. Apart of the Oyakhilome brothers, sin (or wrong-doing since a Christian cannot sin, according to their belief) is very common among the pastors and laity. Including me. I did a lot of things I’m not proud of as a leader, including fornication. But what struck me is that I was going numb, conscienceless in the church. No message speaks to my struggles to stay upright and not to sin. They do not even talk about such things. The focus of the messages is often on how to be successful, perhaps so you can give more money!

In summary, at CE, sin means nothing!

tete7000:


If they ask stupid person like you to define the bible, you will tell your brainwashed follower it is the same as torah. If they ask you to differentiate between christianity and judaism, you will tell nonentities like you they are one and the same.

See, this definition of ignorance calling someone ignorant. You really must be sick. Maybe the guy that started this tread who just freed himself from mumu like you might need your help but trust me that guy vowed he won't patronise freelance prophets like you again. Now he understand how difficult to extract any truth from your likes.

You will almost tell your children, Jesus and apostles quoted from the bible. I am sorry for them.

JimaeChinko:



I swear the trait of Stupidity is deeply ingrained in your DNA.

I can't dignify a stupid ignorant individual like you with anymore reply again.

Take up the Bible and read before getting involved in discourse such as this.

Cerebrae:
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You need JESUS

wristbangle:
Oga seun, I need to call your attention to this issue.

This is a Christian related matter that is being thrashed out by well meaning Christians to fault many wrong doings in christian dom but unfortunately muslims and atheists have logically derailed this thread with annoying comments but when it comes to muslim thread, an annoying acknowledgment statement has been placed to block us from erring our opinions.

What are you doing to curtail this religious marginalisation on Nairaland?

franzis:
this real life scenario , the person in question is my mum younger brother

zabuur:
Enough said. I am a Muslim but, plz I wanna ask few questions

1. "How should one worship as a Christian? I believe there should be a unique and acceptable way one should worship. Maybe written in the Bible or taught by one of God's apostles."

2. "Is the Bible hard to understand that one needs another man to describe what's in it?"

3. "Who deserves more respect, parents or religious leaders? Even if our parents aren't against us worshipping God. Even if they have led us in the right path?"

wristbangle:
Oga seun, I need to call your attention to this issue.

This is a Christian related matter that is being thrashed out by well meaning Christians to fault many wrong doings in christian dom but unfortunately muslims and atheists have logically derailed this thread with annoying comments but when it comes to muslim thread, an annoying acknowledgment statement has been placed to block us from erring our opinions.

What are you doing to curtail this religious marginalisation on Nairaland?

Iconoclaste:
I stopped taking pastor Chris serious when he opened his mouth at a communion Q&A session to say masturbation isn't a sin. I was like WTF.
Its also an open secret that after every night of bliss, the ones that used to be held at the stadium back then, lots of used condoms would be found on the grounds. The youths would usually disappear to dark corners around 3am.

follow this thread closely, the ladies would vehemently defend CE & Pastor Chris and even leave the meat of the matter to attack the messenger and ask jamb questions

connectpoint:


Okay...Na wa oh..This one you refuse your pastor [proposal like this...Nkem...Nkem..Nkem...How many times i call you?

costandi:
its vision 400 my sister. No time.

nkemdi89:

After eve God no choose woman for another man, because when eve give Adam apple chop and God come provoke , Adam come blame God say na the woman wey him give am cos am.

itsmeurLady:


Lolzz.... I shld change my profile pic!!! That one Der has bin ages way back 2011 thereabout

fuckpro:
...please bro what exactly do you mean by groove

akagaba:
Op, wake up... as soon as u left, 500 more people walked in so dont come here and disgrace urself. If u have allowed d devil to take a hold of u, then seek deliverance somehwere becus so many lives are being changed and transformed in Christ Embassy. We dont preach sin in CE cuz thats not what God asked us to preach. We rather preach the goodnews of the gospel of our Lord Jesus and thats the gudnews that brings sinners to God.

For money matter, its only a poor man that speaks d way u do. We give big, very very big in CE and thats becuz we serve a big God so deal with ur poverty.