Rilwayne001:
Maybe we can churn something out today.

@tintingz

Why is there any world at all, and why is it the way that it is?

tintingz:
Answer: It can be accidental

but as of now I don't really know,

the same question goes why are there faults and flaws in God's "perfect" creation?

tintingz:
No, it is not off point, it is part of the God you quoted to threaten people.

So if I admit there is an evidence of a deity, gods how will that link to your own god? Are you arguing for deism or Islam?

Where is the evidence first cause is eternal?

tintingz:
I'm not going about saying there is no supernatural, what I'm saying is there is no evidence for it, no one has been able demonstrate it successfully. I believe some things can't be explained doesn't make it supernatural, we simply don't know yet and I believe many of these so called juju are magic tricks.

Not only Christians, it is common among religious folks and when they fail they give apologetic excuse.

I am even planning to go for paranormal and supernatural research, broadcasting it in open/public, I just need time and capital.

But are there not paranormal and supernatural challenges conducted for years?

Here is a video of this man probably atheist, challenging india guru priest to proof his supernatural power.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfJPYzxHM4g&t=218s

Here is an article on supernatural challenge that was failed, not successfully proven, this is from 1964 to 2015.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge

Rilwayne001:


Brother, if truly you want to see the truth and see proof, then get off the Internet and go to OTOKO in AbK as suggested by haffaze777. Asking for proof of supernatural is insincerity and at the same time nonsense. You know can't get one here and you are asking for it. You know where to get yet you won't go there. Smh..

Rilwayne001:


How can it be accident? Can accident be caused by nothing? The question remains?
why is there existence at all? and unless you have an answer to this question, you have no reason whatsoever to deny the existence of a supreme supernatural entity aka God.

If nothing existed besides the sorts of things we find in the world, there would be no explanation of why these things exist.

You don't know and yet you are denying the existence of God?

Let's take it one after the other brother.

tbaba1234:
Tintingz needs 2 things, sincerity and intellectual humility.

Until then, it does not matter how many arguments you throw at him. He does not even realise when he says dumb things.

May Allah forgive and guide him.

tintingz:
What's this baba saying?

Why not respond to the "dumb things" I said and stop acting like supreme asz here.

May spaghetti monster forgive you and guide you.

Rilwayne001:


I suppose we are trying to establish whether God exists or not, aren't we?
Take note that if we are to delve into this now, we will be derailing the argument. So therefore let's not derail.

We take it one after the other. First, we have to establish that God exists before coming to which is which.

It's this: something must bring about something but then, that at first glance, there's two possibilities: either we eventually reach the first event, the cause at the beginning of the universe that set everything going, or there is no first event in the series and the past stretches back into infinity. Take note that the latter isn't possible.

tbaba1234:


That's the thing, responding to dumb things validates them.

I could have a conversation only if the other person is willing to listen and reason. There is a difference between a genuine seeker and a debater.A debater looks to refute. A seeker thinks deeply and responds from that place.

A few years ago, a muslim sister on nairaland had similar challenges with faith. She was at the beginning stages. We met offline and had a conversation about these issues. Alhamdulillah, it helped her through and i believe she is in a better place now.

I have grown past having these debates on nairaland because it often becomes an ego contest.

Like i said, sincerity and intellectual humility. Do not regurgitate, think and ponder.

tintingz:
One of the explanation by physicists and cosmologists is the quantum vacuum is "nothingness" and everything came from quantum vacuum.

So why can't I deny existence of a deity or gods? Where is the evidence any of them exist? And you haven't tell me how your proof of a deity link to your god, don't forget we have thousand of gods out there.

We haven't finish studying everything about life, we are progressively getting there.

So the question will now be why are we existing?

Rilwayne001:


Lol. What are you saying? So this is as a result of the accident you suggested earlier on? And besides, do you subscribe to this theory?
Hopefully you won't delve into what you don't .

Then you need to keep studying instead of coming out discarding what you don't know.

This is exactly my question which you have been evading so far.

Rilwayne001:
Tintingz, I think I will have to create a new thread as I can see that you are trying to mix things up.

Empiree:
How I wished this conversation continued in lanrexlan's thread. Mr. Tin is unbelievably incredibly

Rilwayne001:


Brother, if truly you want to see the truth and see proof, then get off the Internet and go to OTOKO in AbK as suggested by haffaze777. Asking for proof of supernatural is insincerity and at the same time nonsense. You know can't get one here and you are asking for it. You know where to get yet you won't go there. Smh..

tintingz:
Which thread, let me see.

tintingz:
Your thinking is very irrational, if you do not believe you ancestors existed, then how did you came to be? You fell fron the sky? .

Teetotaler:
I am talking about your own ancestors though, cos I have evidence of mine but not of yours.
How much rational can I get?

Gene, and DNA are not physical evidences duhh.

I thought u were the one making allegations about Musa, Muhammad and co not having pictures to verify their existence.
Now you know pictures are not needed to prove existence of a thousand years people and I agree.

Really bro, show me scientific evidence and the genetic tree of your family ancestry from your progenitor till now.
There is genealogical tree of d prophet though.

TingTinz How do I quote each questions raised correctly?

I'm a kafir

Empiree:
https://www.nairaland.com/3812963/what-wrong-tintingz

FaroukM:
@tintingz, have u ever thought of what makes u sleep and what wakes u,... Nobody knows when he/she sleep, U can only know when u wake,...

Go to Egypt.. U will see the preserved body of pharaoh which was stated in the Quran, and there so many other things etc...

Even you been able to read and comment here is by Allah's doing...

And Allah has mentioned that people like you will exist in this world... No matter the prove shown to u, even if you see Allah one on one, you will still deny HIS existence... But in this world ALLAH said HE will provide for you in this world.. Even some people like u will be so favoured that.. U will not lack anything in this world.. But in the hereafter...you will be on your own... May Allah forgive u

AlBaqir:

# So, the point still remain that an innocent boy was killed deliberately. Why?

najib632:
Allah revealed the future of the parents of the boy to Al-khidr if, the boy had grown up he would have disbelieved and caused his parents to disbelieve, so Allah took him away and compensated the parents with more children that will be pious ones. Every prophet had something different from the other.