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Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by mcquin(m): 2:23pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
Nigeriadondie:Starting with your Account Name, it isn't fair at least to the sensibilities of the rest of us, even though I respect your right to having same. Nigeria will survive it's challenges, Amen. Going by your Analogy, Christ needed not go to the cross. The human race is marred in sin but Christ never saw the sacrifice at the Cross as a waste. Never say never. The tunnel always has an end and there will always be light at it's end. |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by mcquin(m): 2:26pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
toyetade:Thank you for your very decent reply. But a sacrifice you want to benefit from is no sacrifice. What about making those sacrifices for your children. If you don't reap your sacrifice in this life, your kids will. There is always hope. 2 Likes |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by mediclife1987(m): 2:31pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
debbie: The govt is not to blame but the people who'll prefer to bash their indigenous docs and make the govt to further believe we're useless and thus further worsen our life. 2 Likes |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by mcquin(m): 2:32pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
mykl01:Lol. It is well. I'm a lawyer and the U.K is best place to improve oneself as regards that. Hence my resolve to further train there and come back to give back. 1 Like |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by Nobody: 2:53pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
mcquin: Yes it is good if you can stay to change things. Nigeria is our own and no one can do except we the citizens. I was thinking like you before I travelled abroad about 17 years ago after watching Nigeria for many years. I can see things are always getting worse and worse for that country and yet up till now, the trend is still the same. I don't know why may be it is the blend of the kind of people making up the country or I don't know why. All I can say is that I thank God for taking that decision. I enjoy the country anytime I visit now because I don't reside there. 3 Likes |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by mamawin(f): 3:04pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
Very soon, (God forbid)there won't be a single doctor that can treat malaria. I weep for this country 1 Like |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by Nobody: 3:14pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
Not only Drs All medical personnels. |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by Litmus: 3:15pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
While such issues should inspire us as Nigerians to strive for better Nigeria, let us also bear in mind that they're not exclusive to us. For example, many NHS Doctors and Nurses would like to work abroad too.Many do indeed emigrate to work in America, Australia, Canada and New Zealand once newly qualified. Britain is currently considering prohibitive measures such as committing undergraduates to contracts,which stipulates that they most work for a number of years in Britain before being at liberty to leave the country to work abroad. please excuse the clunky grammar. |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by cococandy(f): 3:34pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
Doctors here make on average about $200k-&300k a year. Sometimes more. With the current exchange rate a doctor making the minimum, will make $200k * 350 = 70 million a year. Which gives almost 6 million naira salary every month. Nurses and many other professional health workers here make more than doctors there. Tell your Nigerian government to step up. 2 Likes |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by Nigeriadondie: 4:01pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
mcquin:Thanks u noticed my name but also in as much as I am not unfair to ur insensibility and that of others u need to be very realistic. We should be draw analogy of Christ's death with Nigeria mata. It is with a very clear head and from experience I make my point. Nigeria I will still say is doomed and beyond redemption and forbids anything good. To fix Nigeria is not hard but d ruling class benefitting from d rot wants d status quo. They are also bereft of ideas and even if they ve d ideas to move the country forward they will never do what it takes if their personal interest is involved. The docile and divided masses are not even making things better even though they are d ones suffering it. If u check my previous comments on nairaland I ve highlighted points that makes me 101% sure that Nigeria has no future at all and look dont call on God to help us cos he has already helped us but na we wey no one help ourselves. Can u see how d country is retrogressing? I can still take d pain to tell u why if u cant go thru my previous post 2 Likes |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by onyxo76(m): 4:04pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
this is very true, my younger brother left for Scotland last April and is doing very well , even had to start from a SHO over there, one of my senior colleagues is scheduled to jet out next month to US for a Master's prog but I know he aint coming back having passed the USMLE already. He will will just gather like 3 months savings from his salary and pay off the bond he took for the study. |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by Amigos12(m): 4:13pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
ceaser:Hmm! You've seen it all.A major newspaper should quickly make this an editorial.Weldone sir!!! |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by googi: 4:26pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
Doctors will continue to leave as long as we train them mostly for foreign and exotic diseases. But mostly ignorant of local parasitic and infectious diseases. Except children of Babalawo in medical schools. If Nigerians only know how much praises and respect foreign medical scientists gave Nigeria generally and Lagos in particular when we defeated Ebola. Note, that was old fashioned primary healthcare instituted by the likes of Olikoye Kuti Well, those doctors trained then are dying and retired. Most countries train doctors for their local needs and then specialized doctors that can compete anywhere Continue training according to foreign medical curriculum and expect them not to jump. Even if you double their pay. You want international doctors, abi The corruption stated above is something else, typical of the mess we find ourselves. Doctors are part of the system including referring patients to their clinics or you die! |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by youngestland: 4:47pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
I weep for my country |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by Celepope: 5:25pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
cococandy: Please Madame I will like to know the kind of Nurse and many other Professional health workers that make more than Doctors?Apart from Nursing midwives and Anasthetics, no Nurse even make half of what Doctors make especially in US. 1 Like |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by nemynely(m): 5:33pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
mcquin: Sorry dude, I am almost certain that you don't hav your facts concerning the welfare of doctors in this country. How can a doctor be living above average when he is being owed salary arrears? You might want to argue that a lot of people are being owed too, but when you factor in the fact that doctors work for longer hours in the name of emergencies, call duties, leaving them with little or no time to pursue other money making ventures, you may be inclined to agree with me that it is CRIMINAL to owe a doctor! There are many points I would hav raised but let me leave others who truly understand the plight of the Nigerian doctor, beyond the facade of an compulsory ethical smile, to allude to more challenges they face. 3 Likes |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by nemynely(m): 5:49pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
blackbeau1: Little sis, it is not compulsory to contribute to a matter. It would have been better if you just quietly read through people's posts on this thread 2 Likes |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by blackbeau1(f): 5:53pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
nemynely:little bro, it's not compulsory to quote somebody's post. Different people have different opinions, you know |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by cococandy(f): 5:54pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
Celepope:I'm talking about doctors in nigeria. Nurses here (US) make more than them (talking about salary) not private practice doctors. |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by Celepope: 6:00pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
cococandy: Now I understand you better.Even Nursing Assistants in the US earn more than Nigerian doctors.Very sad. |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by echarlz(m): 6:22pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
It is not only doctors that are leaving. Nurses, pharmacists and physiotherapists are leaving in droves. In all this, it is Nigeria and Nigerians that are losing after spending so much to train these professionals. One big irony is that the countries they are migrating to even have higher doctors to people ratio. U.K, USA, Australia etc keep recruiting and willing to get better. Whereas our own health system is several decades behind theirs, they keep improving. We've always exported the little we have while we keep importing what we have. The issues also go beyond job satisfaction. Or how do you explain a specialist brain surgeon in Nigeria not minding to go start all over again in U.K? This country needs help, and urgently too. There seems to be no one in charge, no sense of direction, the future is ever so uncertain. The land is filled with hatred and division. Government should put measures in place to halt the brain-drain not just among doctors but all categories of professionals. 1 Like |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by nemynely(m): 6:45pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
blackbeau1: My dear, time, they say broadens our perspective. I just hope, for your sake & of those you love and hold dear, that a medical condition your "national hospital" cannot deal with, befalls you or them. Then, you just might get the drift of doctors on this thread. By the way, I couldn't help but notice the 'little sis' tag didn't go down well wit you. Am cool with the little bro though cos I am not what I am referred to as, rather I am whom I present myself to be! |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by jagbajantus: 6:54pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
First remove and replace your stupid, incompetent and clueless old leaders at Aso Rock and replace them with someone who has some b rain and vision. Then remove those lazy over-paid idiots who are chopping our money and claiming millions of dollars in undeserved benefits in our senate in Abuja. And then sack those coconut-head, brainless governors of yours that you have in all your various states. This will save us billions of dollars. Replace them with some young, forward-thinking, non-corrupt and dedicated progressive young Nigerian men and women. Trim the wasteful budget. Just look at Tanzania. Even look at Kenya and compare how much they get paid in the Kenyan Parliament to over-paid Nigerian Senate. Once you cut all this ignorant waste, you can then use that money to create jobs, health care and education for average Nigerians, and build up the infrastructure. The day that Nigeria's electricity power failure problem is solved or fixed, that day is the same day that Nigeria will be immediately rescued and the economy will just explode and grow exponentially. If Nigeria's economy is solved, everything else will fall in place - jobs, taxes, growth, development, infrastructure, national wealth, health care, production, manufacturing, etc., etc. Eliminate the useless PHCN. Just like their nickname, all that they know how to do is to HOLD power from Nigerians. They are truly a "power-holding" corporation. They live up to their name. They hold power from Nigerians. If you do all this, more Nigerian professionals (including those absconding medical doctors) will stay instead of just looking to jet out overseas at every opportunity. And Nigeria will be a better place to live in. 2 Likes |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by 7stargeneralady: 8:14pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
mcquin:You are wrong, doctors are not well paid and do not live above average. Average maybe |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by cococandy(f): 8:27pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
Celepope:Well I don't know about nursing assistants. If true, that's really sad. |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by brojoshua: 8:31pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
After almost all of us destroyed our own country by our corruption, so many of us are seeking other people's to run to. Ours is a corrupt and perverse generation |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by Nigeriadondie: 8:34pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
Ximenez:That is d issue d lack of modern equipment. I ve studied but in Nigeria and abroad and from my experience modern equipment but in the job and training makes a huge difference. Nigeria is many centuries behind. If u re trained in Nigeria in sciences,medicine, engineering, technology and u go abroad u wud look like mumu cos d training received in Nigeria with no or dilapidated equipment can never prepare graduates in climes with high level technology. U wud look like zombie. Even to operate their equipment u wud start to question d worth of ur degree in Nigeria. Even in medical practice modern machines has made a very huge difference. Nigeria is hopeless infact d little hope it had has evaporated. The leaders themselves know it and dont want to do otherwuse cos they love d status quo People rendering essential services are paid peanuts and on top of it they owe them but those thieves in power are never owed 2 Likes |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by Nigeriadondie: 8:59pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
mcquin:Pls look at this video link of a hospital in Nigeria and tell me if it wud not be frustrating for a "patriotic" doctor to work in such clinics after all d annual budget allocated for health at both d federal and state level http://www.aljazeera.com/video/news/2017/04/nigeria-meningitis-outbreak-infects-thousands-170408115856520.html Even makeshift clinics in Syria are much more better than death centres u call hospital in Nigeria. U wud rarely see kids on d floor in a country at wall. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/04/syria-chemical-attack-idlib-province Look at d video links above. Nigeria at best should be made an oversea colony of a responsible western nation cos we did more harm to Nigeria than any foreign power. At least d UK or US and France still ve countries that they administer. At least it wud be better as we cant govern ourselves.eg Puerto Rico(US), Falkland Island(UK) among others |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by googi: 9:49pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
Why are you guys comparing salaries abroad to Nigerian salary? Does it make sense or the same union or determination board are fixing salaries worldwide? Do you know how much highly world regarded doctors make in Cuba? This is why I say no matter what the salary, Nigerian doctors will leave for the countries that fit their medical curriculum. Train Nigerian doctors for Nigeria and the brain drain will stop. When was the last time you heard that physician assistants (health officers) train in medical tech. all over the country are leaving in droves. But then, even those without post secondary training are leaving. Our problem is beyond medical doctors alone. The system is junk. Instead of standing up like your fathers did for Independence and demand action, you are waiting for your grandfather Wole Soyinka to come and fight for you. Wait O! Again, wait o. Somebody is complaining about equipment. Since Independence, you cannot make your own equipment? Who are you waiting for? By the way, we have the biggest field for medicine and discovery in Africa, right in your village. Every summer, professors of medicine used to invade Olulunyo Hospital in Ibadan waiting to be posted to Bush Hospital. They then go back home and teach tropical medicine at Harvard, Yale, Oxford, McGill or University of Toronto. Abeg, which equipment are you complaining about? You do not have iron, tin, silver or gold to make Bunsen burner? Go si-down jor! Many of you are lazy waiting to be spoon-fed and collect government salaries. Ah, ah. What about those trained abroad, leave everything and return home. As we usually say in those days, before you kill your mother! |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by mcquin(m): 10:35pm On Aug 04, 2017 |
7stargeneralady:Going by Nigeria's economic-index, a doctor lives above average. I'm a lawyer and I can boldly tell you as a professional that we never enjoyed half of what doctors enjoyed even from service year. No other professional enjoyed what doctors enjoy. Per-capital income of a doctor dwarfs the pay-cheque of every other professional. |
Re: NOIPolls: 88% Of Nigerian Doctors Seek Job Opportunities Abroad by Schwartz: 5:40am On Aug 05, 2017 |
cococandy:You are wrong. You wrote the Gross salary. After all government deductions how much comes back as net salary? What is the cost of housing and other bills in the US? I believe you know that its way higher than in Nigeria. The money you earn abroad should never be compared to the pay in Nigeria. You don't spend dollars in Nigeria. After all that salary they still live on credit. How much do they save at the end of the day? I know some doctors earning really good in Nigeria. If they want to relocate it should be for other reasons not just money. Heck! My German national friend who is still a medical doctor rented a flat because the rent was high he had to occupy only one room while renting out the rest rooms including the store room. This is a specialist doctor o.I have met many doctors abroad and they cannot be termed to be rich.They are doing okay and that's it. The kind of pictures people paint for those in Nigeria eh |
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