As Christians it is wrong to pray for the dead. You can only pray for the family members left behind not the dead.

Yes you can.
The literal presentation of Heaven and hell has messed up the concept of the spirit world.
Our departed ones need our prayers and good works so that they can advance in their journey of the great beyond.

SweetBoyFriend:


Judgement by who ??

You still believe this shiit ??

How about when God fed 5,000 people with 2 fish ?? You still believe that too ??

this is spiritual stuff do you understand spiritual things? I bet you don't understand up to half of physical things

Queenext:
After death comes judgment, so why pray?

No repentance in grave

What about Romans 6:7?

Queenext:
After death comes judgment, so why pray?

No repentance in grave

Maybe because our Men of God pray for the dead and they rose up. At least that's what they claim. Even Jesus claimed to pray for a man who was dead for 3 days. Now that my friend, is 3 days after judgment. You see that judgment is not final if there is anything like it.

Christians who bash denominations like Catholics who pray for the dead yet use the phrase rest in peace (Requiescat in pace)
when their loved one's die or in funerals are hypocrites.

God help your unbelief

hopefulLandlord:
prayer is useless for the living too, let alone a dead body

Nothing fails like prayer

You would have the same success praying to a milk jug as you do praying to god -- the milk jug sometimes answers your prayer the way you want to, sometimes not and sometimes the answer is delayed. See the problem here? If things turn out the way you want them to, you say it was because you prayed. If not, it's because god knows what's best and you didn't pray for the right thing. Or, if it happens 10 years later you say god answered your prayer, it was just delayed. This is nonsense. You would have the exact same effect doing nothing.

It's absolutely a futile effort

Pekun210:
Praying for the dead expecially during funeral service is very common and heb 9 vs 27 says everyone has to die once and then face the consequences. So if their fate is sealed already why do we still pray for them?
And besides will God answers such prayer?

Hodnis the God of the living, not dead. Mark 12: 27

rejosom:


Maybe because our Men of God pray for the dead and they rose up. At least that's what they claim. Even Jesus claimed to pray for a man who was dead for 3 days. Now that my friend, is 3 days after judgment. You see that judgment is not final if there is anything like it.

shakyum12:

glo user spoted oga wake up, u r not even the third to comment

the many problems we have today is to assume something and taking it as fact without real thought or may I say proof. think again about what you wrote

walls01:


the many problems we have today is to assume something and taking it as fact without real thought or may I say proof. think again about what you wrote

Maybe you can help me point out the assumptions made in the statement.

Could it be any of these?
(I) That Pastors claim to raise the dead.
(II) That Jesus raised a man who was dead for 3 days according to the bible.

Any time u gather around d corpse to say last prayers...automatically you av prayed

Amberon11:
Hodnis the God of the living, not dead. Mark 12: 27

isn't this kinda contradictory.?

exodus 3:6

Then he said, "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob." At this, Moses hid his face, because he was afraid to look at God.


he used I am present tense to say this to Moses even though Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were already dead at the time.

You av a point though...rest in peace is nt a curse...but shud we just put the corpse inside the grave without doing nothing?

Proudgorgeousga:
Christians who bash denominations like Catholics who pray for the dead yet use the phrase rest in peace (Requiescat in pace)
when their loved one's die or in funerals are hypocrites.

sexybaby22:
They have started again this Sunday. Time to bash Catholics abi?
If you gather round the graves during a burial and say any prayer, you are already praying for the dead so we all do.

God hears it and the souls of the departed are comforted when you pray for them. Not all sins should lead to hell. Our God is just as compassionate as he is Awesome.

Compassionate as he is awesome, so what's the need for HELL FIRE?
A compassionate god creating hell fire defiles every rule of logic.

Ask this?

Did Jesus ever pray for the Dead? When? Where? and Why?

Only When he was to resurrect someone did he pray for them.

Solomon even said in Ecclesiastics the dead know Nothing!

Actually Praying for the Dead started with Catholics and was a means to generate funds through Penances and Indulgences back in the ages (Sorry to all Catholics here for mentioning your faith.) But that's the origin of praying for the dead!

Live to the best and fullest for once you die, It's all over!

Except you lived the good life on earth as Christ taught. Stay Blessed and free from the dear of Death!

rejosom:


Maybe you can help me point out the assumptions made in the statement.

Could it be any of these?
(I) That Pastors claim to raise the dead.
(II) That Jesus raised a man who was dead for 3 days according to the bible.

you said claimed? did you bother to verify first before your conclusion?

Oh and in direct response to the OP, it is futile to pray for the dead for their case lies with God at Death from the Bible!

Pekun210:
You av a point though...rest in peace is nt a curse...but shud we just put the corpse inside the grave without doing nothing?

Do what makes you feel better and help the grieving families cope. maybe the families feel better praying for their dead loved ones.

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of those that say praying for the dead is sin not those that claim is useless.

walls01:

you said claimed? did you bother to verify first before your conclusion?

Verify? You don't believe the Bible again? How can I verify the Lazarus story... though I feel it is BS but I have to believe it by faith.

Did Jesus Christ ever taught us to pray for the dead? the bible clearly stated that the wages of sin is death and after death is judgement. Why offer needless prayer for the need? Praying for the need is useless and baseless

rejosom:


Verify? You don't believe the Bible again? How can I verify the Lazarus story... though I feel it is BS but I have to believe it by faith.

you said pastors claimed, that was what I was referring to.
the person that wrote that account of Jesus raising a dead body is a eye witness. in your court of law how do the judge view an eye witness

buygala:
Something has to be done to justify the consumption of drinks and food at the funeral

If you don't go through the stress of singing funeral hymns, listening to funeral sermons, crying a bit and blowing your nose once in a while, especially when the corpse arrives the venue, and mumbling something when the corpse goes down into the hole, why then will you feel entitled to the funeral Jolof rice and Coke?

lol..u no wel

walls01:


you said pastors claimed, that was what I was referring to.
the person that wrote that account of Jesus raising a dead body is a eye witness. in your court of law how do the judge view an eye witness

Fair enough so my conclusions was right after all... If Jesus can pray for a man dead for 3 days (3 days after judgment) then people can pray for their loved ones who are dead. Any objections?

As for the pastors who claim to raise the dead... I don't need to verify. If Jesus did it, why can't they? Remember he said his followers shall do greater things.

Prayers are futile.. Be it for the living of the Dead.

Who gat the code for checking the MTNAwwuf bonus account?

rejosom:


Fair enough so my conclusions was right after all... If Jesus can pray for a man dead for 3 days (3 days after judgment) then people can pray for their loved ones who are dead. Any objections?

yes. we can't just pray for the dead due to many reasons. when a person dies he is transformed and faces judgement. if the person has already been judge then he can't just leave and come back because a person prayed.
and most importantly death is the end of the road to a man journey on earth extending that journey is God alone to say. so God instructs his true servants to pray if he wishes to extend the journey. without instructions no one can raise the dead

walls01:


yes. we can't just pray for the dead due to many reasons. when a person dies he is transformed and faces judgement. if the person has already been judge then he can't just leave and come back because a person prayed.
and most importantly death is the end of the road to a man journey on earth extending that journey is God alone to say. so God instructs his true servants to pray if he wishes to extend the journey. without instructions no one can raise the dead

Fine, so you can pray for your departed loved ones, Maybe God may wish to extend the journey with instructions because you prayed, right?

rejosom:


Fine, so you can pray for your departed loved ones, Maybe God may wish to extend the journey with instructions because you prayed, right?

yes

walls01:


yes

Yes

Mavrick2012:
Eschatological fallacies every where.
Simple logic: if we can't remember ever existing before we were born, how come we so sure we will "eternally" have memories and consciousness after death?

Of course!
Before we were born? Why go back that long? And since I can't remember where I put my toothbrush on May 3 1984 this proves I can't be sure of having memories and consciousness after death.

Yikes.