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Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by saliubello(m): 5:11am On Oct 17, 2017 |
EMMAACHILE:I think I have heard something like that too. But really that's not sustainable. I just wanted a more reliable thing. Perhaps I needed to invest more heavily on something that can let me grow all year round and anytime too. This thing must be pursued to a logical conclusion. I wish to be selling my home grown rice across the 36 states of Nigeria. |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by feran15(m): 7:03pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
TangoAlpha: when you say drones, are the drones continuously flying over the farm? 24/7? |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by arvinkz: 8:32pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
How effective is the use of Avicide? |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by TangoAlpha: 11:09pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
feran15: To answer your question directly; the drone will not need to be flown 24/7. The birds attack during the day only. So you only fly during the day. Do you fly all through the day? No. But you may need to fly for most of the day. Let me break this down a bit more. Quelea quelea attacks are greatest in the early mornings and early evenings. But they generally attack through the day. When you use a drone, it's motion and noise drives the birds. If the farm is not so big....the drone can travel back and forth in a few seconds and will leave the birds no respite. The theory is that if you frustrate them so much they will take a break for upto 30-45minutes. If the drone activity continues, and the birds upon returning realise that they still don't have the opportunity to feed on your rice, Thier frustration increases. If you sustain this back to back. You are very likely going to make the birds migrate from the area. There is a potential problem though. Many drones that qualify for this task have limited battery life. Typically battery life's are about 10-30 minutes. So you may need to have a number of spare batteries to be able to fly the drone footage hours. The other challenge is if the area you need to fly the drone over is too large (my rice was on about 50 acres, and I had only one drone); the birds will feast on the rice before the drone gets to them and they will fly to other parts of the rice farm once the drone gets to them. Before the drone gets to the new spot, the birds would have done more damage...on and on.. So get as many spare batteries as you can. And plan the number of drones to match the size of you farm. I used the DJI Mavic Pro. Unfortunately, it didn't help much. The size of the farm and the population of the birds overwhelmed it. I reckon that of I had 5-10 of that drone I may not have a list a single grain to the birds. 3 Likes |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by TangoAlpha: 11:18pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
arvinkz: For avicides. I can't say much. The one I bought from the US did not work. I guess it was not meant specifically for quelea quelea. I late found out that many of these products are species specific. The one I got locally made by Jubailli didn't work. I would not rush to say it didn't work because it wasn't effective. The friend that recommended it cliam that it worked on his own farm. And we applied it at about the same time. It seemed to have worked well in driving the birds from my friend's Ofada rice farm but to didn't even show any sign of working on mine. The only way I explained this discrepancy to myself was that I started applying this avicide late. The birds were already living on my farm. I had already tried a number of solutions that failed. By the time I got to trying the avicide, the birds had already found endless supply of food. The avicide must have failed as a result. Perhaps if I had applied the chemical before the rice were mature for bird attack, this solution might have had better outcomes. The avicide or chemical that are deployed for aerial spraying in northern states actually kill the birds. The chemicals would probably be classified differently from the ones I mentioned earlier. Cheers 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by FarmTech(m): 11:41pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
The bird problem is not a small one oo. |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by FarmTech(m): 11:46pm On Oct 17, 2017 |
TangoAlpha:How much is the drone? |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by doyinbaby(f): 2:44am On Oct 18, 2017 |
Rice farming difficult.,..,,no wonder alot of people are into cassava farming,,,..rice is for those that have alot of money to invest 1 Like |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by saliubello(m): 2:58am On Oct 18, 2017 |
TangoAlpha:Thanks for sharing. Worth the read. My next field report will certainly be enriched. |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by saliubello(m): 2:59am On Oct 18, 2017 |
TangoAlpha:Thanks for sharing. This is worth reading. |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by saliubello(m): 3:03am On Oct 18, 2017 |
doyinbaby:it's not really about the problems associated with rice farming, but about our perpetual mind sets. *it cant work here*. This ineptitude led Nigerian to export all their jobs and import all manners of poverty. On the financial aspect based on my findings, rice is worth more than cassava from all indications. But of course, you will do the needfuls 2 Likes |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by doyinbaby(f): 3:11am On Oct 18, 2017 |
saliubello:I wish to start a farm but not rice......all these challenges regarding rice farming cannot be combated by small scale farmers...you need expertise and money to combat these problems |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by dragon2(m): 7:18am On Oct 18, 2017 |
Hmm,what a tragic loss.I would suggest you do not expand on rice yet but rather shrink the land size till you have mastered the art of rice farming. Grow other crops you are sure of,while experimenting with rice so as to maintain some degree of financial strength.(Unless of course, you have serious financial muscle) On the issue of birds,a few scarecrows combined with a wailing siren may work. Just my 2 kobo. 1 Like
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Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by saliubello(m): 7:42am On Oct 18, 2017 |
dragon2:Thanks for the insight. This I guess is the cheapest of the options available in combination with other strategy. Thanks greatly |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by feran15(m): 7:44am On Oct 18, 2017 |
TangoAlpha: thank you so much for the detailed explaination |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by feran15(m): 8:04am On Oct 18, 2017 |
saliubello: how expensive do you think the irrigation will be? |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by TangoAlpha: 8:23am On Oct 18, 2017 |
dragon2: The birds are intelligent and adaptive. The siren will work for a few days. When they notice that it's not harming them, they will start ignoring it. One way to achieve relative success with the siren is to vary the type and pattern of noise coming from it. And not to make it continuous. Scarecrows are the easiest for the birds to get used to. The birds are so 21st century. The inflatable human effigy that you find at children's parties will probably work better than motionless scarecrows. Combining this with irregular high pitch noise can have relative success...provided the population of the birds in your locality is minimal. 2 Likes |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by TangoAlpha: 8:24am On Oct 18, 2017 |
saliubello: Maybe you should mention the 'other strategy' you have in mind. I might just just have tried them already. |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by saliubello(m): 9:42am On Oct 18, 2017 |
TangoAlpha:You already stated the other strategis in your post, "One way to achieve relative success with the siren is to vary the type and pattern of noise coming from it. And not to make it continuous. Scarecrows are the easiest for the birds to get used to. The birds are so 21st century. The inflatable human effigy that you find at children's parties will probably work better than motionless scarecrows. Combining this with irregular high pitch noise can have relative success...provided the population of the birds in your locality is minimal." 1 Like |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by FarmTech(m): 9:33pm On Oct 18, 2017 |
TangoAlpha:.. I once read somewhere that strips of reflective aluminum foil will scare birds away. Maybe u people shud try it. |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by saliubello(m): 10:28pm On Oct 18, 2017 |
FarmTech:are you refering to old cassette tapes?? If it that, it didn't help much. It kept them for only few days. When they understood it's lifeless, they go close to the rice at will but in droves instead. Just my observations. 1 Like |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by TangoAlpha: 4:23am On Oct 19, 2017 |
FarmTech: Thanks for that input. Yes you are right. They fall under the reflective tapes option for bird control. 'old cassette' tapes also fall under this category. The principle is simple. When the wind blows, the tapes make crackling sounds that irritate or even scare the birds. Secondly, in bright sunlight, the tapes reflect light into the market eye of the birds. This also deters them. Even though this bird control option use a two prong approach, it will only work when there is wind and or sunlight. You cannot guarantee that this will happen all day everyday for the one month that your rice become vulnerable to bird attack. Plus, these birds are adaptive, when they notice that the tapes pose no imminent danger, they start ignoring it. Cheers 1 Like |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by FarmTech(m): 3:34pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
These birds are mean oo. Another strategy I once read is high tech. It involves using electronic rays to detect bird approaching the farm. When detected, it triggers rocket-propelled firecracker that will scare off the birds. This one may be unreacheable for most farmers. |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by obiageIi(f): 5:43pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
TangoAlpha:The bolded is a fact, I had to pull out of my rice farming project few week into harvest to save myself form hypertension 1 Like |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by saliubello(m): 6:56pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
FarmTech:I think this is what I need. The mechanism of operation is quite adequate to serve it's intended purpose. On the flip side, will this be able to serve a large field? If yes, how large can the field be?? Anyone with links to procure this can reach me on any of 08050323434, 08028873809, 08099066646 or saliubello2003@yahoo.com so we can liase how I can get this. |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by TangoAlpha: 9:04pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
saliubello: I do not have an idea of what this might cost, but I can guess that it won't be cheap; as FarmTech already hinted. I do think that it would be quite effective. The suddenness of the explosive noise from firecrackers will always startle the birds. They are not likely to adapt to it easily. The electronic detection will be rated by range in terms of distance of reach. That should answer your question of size of farm it can cover. You will determine the number you need based on the rated range versus size of farm and the number of boundaries your farm has. If the detector revolves while scanning then the area protected will be measured using the radius/diameter of reach. If it's a stationary detector, then expect to have it on all four (if four) boundaries of your farm. Another advantage of this system is that it does not rely heavily on continued human inputs. I imagine that it would be supported by solar power. A less techy version is to deploy firecrackers manually and without an electronic detector. So human labor will manually trigger the fire crackers on sighting the birds. This might make the cost less prohibitive, but will its determined on the commitment of the workforce. Cheers |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by TangoAlpha: 9:50pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
obiageIi: Well that is the sad reality. Many of us found out the hard way. |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by saliubello(m): 9:51pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
TangoAlpha:Reducing the human interface as much as possible to me is a wise decision. However expensive this might be, I will give it a try God willing. I was reviewing these conversations with my people today, then one said, to make this a success any tech product bought for bird chasing will have to be secured by a paid guard on the field, else the challenge of being stolen from the field. I will definitely give this a shot |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by TangoAlpha: 9:59pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
saliubello: I personally also favor minimizing human inputs as much as is practicable. I merely put the manual option out there so that potential farmers who find the fully automated option financially out of reach can still adapt it to suit their pockets. I wish you great success with your next attempt. Cheers |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by maisauki: 10:32pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
I salute your doggedness, dear. I too will share my experience of sesame seed, groundnut, zobo, etc when i'm a bit free insha Allah meanwhile it was today that i finished processin d sesame i got from my farm |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by maisauki: 10:52pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
doyinbaby:you can always start small...d expertise can't be gotten from reading posts or mere wishes, you jus need to get up and do something, something worth d stress...half a plot of land, then you expand jejely and i need not mention it that d highest risk brings d highest gain, not necessarily profit |
Re: Rice Farming: My Sweet-bitter Experience. Looking forward & Re-strategizing!! by saliubello(m): 11:20pm On Oct 19, 2017 |
maisauki:I can't wait to read about it. Some of these experiences from other areas will definitely inspire "some youths" out there to try out something "new". |
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