I'm an atheist myself, and I was just wonder, if someone came to you atheists and offered you one million dollars for rights to your eternal soul 24 hours before you die, would you take up the offer? I mean as an atheist souls don't exist, right? so it should be easy money, selling something that soesn't exist. Sincere comments please.

Have you heard of the expression "Caveat emptor" (which means "Buyer Beware"? If after having warned the buyer that he would be wasting his money, and he is still prepare to conclude the deal, I will have no option but to take his money. As far as I am concerned, I would consider that as a gift, as I have given him nothing in exchange. But he is within his right to consider it whichever way he please (gift or financial transaction). My family would certainly do with a few bobs after I am gone and being eaten by worms.

Huxley:

1. Is there a difference between the mind and the brain?

2. Can you tell me if any of these are physical things -

a. Thoughts

b. Love

c. Patriotism

d. Happiness

I don't have a soul so i can't sell what I don't have.

^^^ Right.

You DO NOT have a soul.

You ARE a Soul.

Deep Sight:

Huxley:

1. Is there a difference between the mind and the brain?

Yes, of course. If you find it hard to tell the difference, just ask yourself the following questions:

a) What is a mind?
b) Have you ever seen a mind existing outside of a brain/body?
c) IS it possible for a brain to exist without a mind? (Think of the millions of brains that exist in vats in research labs all over the world. Do they still have minds?)

Deep Sight:

2. Can you tell me if any of these are physical things -

a. Thoughts

b. Love

c. Patriotism

d. Happiness

These are non-physical concepts that can only exist in minds.

Just as the body is nothing without the soul, the soul is also nothing without the body,

Deep Sight:

Huxley:

1. Is there a difference between the mind and the brain?

huxley:


Yes, of course.

Great: You have conceded that Brains are different from Minds then.

You thus accede that the mind is an element that exists and is expressed through and by the physicl brain.

This is an irreversible concession you have made.

These are non-physical concepts that can only exist in minds.

Is a thought a "concept"?

Deep Sight:

Great: You have conceded that Brains are different from Minds then.

You thus accede that the mind is an element that exists and is expressed through and by the physicl brain.

This is an irreversible concession you have made.

Is a thought a "concept"?

This is not a concession in the way you mean. I don't think I have ever held or expressed the view that they were otherwise. Yes, the mind is an emergent "property" or phenomenon of the brain.

the soul? ancient man speaking. the mind as a physical entity doesn't exist, its only used figuratively. @ deepsight, where is the mind? and how are you going to prove that it is expressed by the brain?

huxley:

This is not a concession in the way you mean. I don't think I have ever held or expressed the view that they were otherwise. Yes, the mind is an emergent "property" or phenomenon of the brain.

WHICH EXISTS FIRST?

Deep Sight:

WHICH EXISTS FIRST?

Of course, the mind BRAIN existed first. (I have corrected this)

Note the correction

huxley:

Of course, the mind BRAIN existed first.   (I have corrected this)

The brain exist first.There is no mind  without the brain and the inputs it gets from the physical world.
besides, what has all this got to do with the original theme.Deep sight is the culprit, the cursed caused cause of the diversion of the thread.

Correction noted

Questions: How does one sell one's soul?What is meant by the "soul" here?If the mind/body consciousness is what is referred to as "soul" in this case, then i can fathom that.I can fathom the sale of mind/body consciousness, which only means, in a lay man's term, "let me indoctrinate your mind with all kinds of stuffs, and then let me manipulate it to my heart's content afterwards".There are many different definitions of what a soul is, it depends on who is making the definition.

idleness leads to nothingness.

most cant stand that hence the meaningless threads

huxley:

Have you heard of the expression "Caveat emptor" (which means "Buyer Beware"? If after having warned the buyer that he would be wasting his money, and he is still prepare to conclude the deal, I will have no option but to take his money. As far as I am concerned, I would consider that as a gift, as I have given him nothing in exchange. But he is within his right to consider it whichever way he please (gift or financial transaction). My family would certainly do with a few bobs after I am gone and being eaten by worms.

So you won't even try to judge the motive of the buyer?

huxley:

Have you heard of the expression "Caveat emptor" (which means "Buyer Beware"? If after having warned the buyer that he would be wasting his money, and he is still prepare to conclude the deal, I will have no option but to take his money. As far as I am concerned, I would consider that as a gift, as I have given him nothing in exchange. But he is within his right to consider it whichever way he please (gift or financial transaction). My family would certainly do with a few bobs after I am gone and being eaten by worms.

why would anyone be willing to pay a million dollars for your soul?. . . .that should inform u of the value attached to it.

toneyb:

I don't have a soul so i can't sell what I don't have.

that u deny having a soul does not dispute the fact u have/are one.

noetic16:

why would anyone be willing to pay a million dollars for your soul?. . .  .that should inform u of the value attached to it.

Dude, people will pay millions of dollars for a frankly ulgly and drab painting of an expressionless woman dressed in black called mona lisa.

Value and worth exists only in the mind of the valuer.

@post.
Infact i'll tell the delirious and wasteful fellow that like a cat I've got 9 souls and because I like him I'll give him the entire 9 for a discount of 7.5 million dollars. . .good deal, aint it?

noetic16:

why would anyone be willing to pay a million dollars for your soul?. . .  .that should inform u of the value attached to it.

Dude, people will pay millions of dollars for a frankly ulgly and drab painting of an expressionless woman dressed in black called mona lisa.

Value and worth exists only in the mind of the valuer.

@post.
Infact i'll tell the delirious and wasteful fellow that like a cat I've got 9 souls and because I like him I'll give him the entire 9 for a discount of 7.5 million dollars. . .good deal, aint it?

noetic16:

that u deny having a soul does not dispute the fact u have/are one.

You have to provide evidence to show that I have one first. Actually your belief in the soul is not founded on reason, but is as a result of conditioning, emotional appeals, and social pressure. No evidence that any soul exists any where. Do rats have souls?

^^^ Is it conceivable that

-  matter = Life?

Does observation of the universe bear this out?

Is it not more likely that  -

- matter + (x) = Life?

Hmm...

Deep Sight: ^^^ Is it conceivable that

-  matter = Life?

Does observation of the universe bear this out?

Is it not more likely that  -

- matter + (x) = Life?

D. Radiodurans proves that matter=life.

DeepSight exposing his pseudo-intellectual sophistry. That soul theory nonsense has been debunked.



@ op. There is no soul to sell. It doesnt exist.