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Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by Nobody: 1:05pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=168541 If this had come from anybody I would not have taken it serious but Gen bali is one man who commands so much respect from me, I dont respect people easily but he has over the years earned my respect. He is discplined and professional, reminds you what a Soldier should be. He is one of the first Public Officers i know who resigned. He was minister of Defence under babangida and resigned when he felt the The Military President was taken over his functions and duties when he could have looked the other way and enjoyed the persk of office but he left because he said he wants to be responsible for every decision made for the Defence as a minster. I am not one to take sides but the truth has to be told, when we see white, lets stop being diplomatic, if not we will never solve this problem. Plateau is my home and I am dying gradually with eac crisis. Enjoy Bali Berates Jos GOC |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by Nobody: 1:56pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
the picture is getting clearer,if domkat bali can come to the open and say this,and going as far as calling this man an idiot, then we are in serious trouble due to incompetence. maina is not picking calls, how do you gather intel if you are not picking calls, they probably might have called and called him before finally sending him text messages. imagine a general overwhelm due to civil disturbance, if it was a war nko? i don,t understand this country we are seeing white and clearly calling it black, it is most unfortunate that more souls will be lost due to the negligence of this goc person, before he is finally removed. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by Nobody: 2:21pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
Jonah Jang also made this argument that Saleh Maina was ignoring calls and Maina responded telling us he did not get calls but text messages. Is text message not enough to alert a security operative? Talk about sleeping on duty. I think the whole 'Jonah Jang is the problem campaign' by the North has been exposed as empty and diversionary. Imagine!!!!! Even Gen Domkat Bali thinks this is all about the politics of domination which started during the days of Uthman Dan Fodio. Truly Nigeria lives in an age long gone!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by nduchucks: 2:24pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
df2006: Bali is the one acting like an idiot. He seems to be angry only because his calls were not picked up but not because of the terrible tragedy at hand. If maina is to answer all the calls he receives, he'd be on the telephone 24 hours per day. The whole affair reveals the lack of sophistication in the operations of the Nigerian Army and gross incompetence within its ranks. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by Nobody: 2:29pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
ndu_chucks: If the GOC is not willing to liaise with the State Governor (who BTW is the Chief Security officer in the State) and Domkat Bali (Who is a former joint chief of staff) please kindly tell us who he will liaise with? This is a failure of security networking and Saleh Maina should bury his head in the sand. He is no General. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by nduchucks: 2:34pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
mikeansy: The Governor himself is incompetent as well. He should have established cordial and close relationships with those who are meant to safeguard the security of the state. I suspect that the Governor did not give the General the customary egunje - these people are all thieves. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by jimmysho(m): 2:37pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
hope the fools in governance will listen and do the right thing? |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by asha80(m): 2:38pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
ndu_chucks: Elaborate on the bolded. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by Nobody: 2:42pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
ndu_chucks: Another tried and tested diversionary tactics, when you are caught out you simply blame everything including the system itself but will rather refuse to get to the root of the matter. The last time I checked a General in the Nigerian Army should not be on the pay-roll of State Government. How does this address the crux of Domkat Bali's argument. Why is it OK for the Igbo and Yorubas to live in Jos without trying to dominate the majority tribe (the Beroms) and not ok for the Hausa Fulani to live quietly without trying to dominate. Is Jihad posible in 2010 Nigeria? |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by netotse(m): 2:44pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
mikeansy:well said. . . for an ex-general to come out and talk as bali did, water must have passed garri, at least we dont know bali to belong to the group of ppl that talk anyhow now. . . and he still refused to answer calls after they met the first time, doesnt that show something? |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by nduchucks: 2:50pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
asha 80: @asha 80, are you a Nigerian? mikeansy: mikeansy!!! diversionary tactics? That's a stretch na. I was not addressing the root of the problem but simply pointing out that both the Governor and the General are incompetent, and that the system is corrupt. Shikena. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by honeric01(m): 2:55pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
Ndu_chucks What point are u trying to make? i also don't understand you, are u trying to say the useless GOC didn't pick the governor's calls because the Governor hasn't bribed him? |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by Nobody: 2:55pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
When did u realise that General Saleh is incompetent? after you have been caught out? I thought you were just defending him for not picking up his calls which would have forwarned him about Security in the state. I think Gen. Saleh may be complicit in this matter. If he does not take time he will be court martialed. Army commander admits being forewarned on Nigeria violence http://www.afriquejet.com/news/africa-news/army-commander-admits-being-forewarned-on-nigeria-violence-2010031345743.html |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by asha80(m): 2:58pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
ndu_chucks: You very disingenuous.So maintaining cordial relationship with the GOC is by bribing the GOC periodically when the GOC is not under him?And with this stupid mentality you hope the country will just move forward? |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by nduchucks: 3:02pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
honeric01: You want me to say that the useless GOC didn't pick the governor's calls because the Governor hasn't bribed him? mba o It suffices to say that if the Governor had established a "great" relationship with the general, the Governor's phone calls would have been answered promptly. I don't know whether bribery is a customary manner of establishing such relationships in Nigeria - but believe you me, if the Governor had wined and dined the GOC the previous week, the Governor's calls would have received a higher priority. @asha 80, the truth is bitter. I believe these people are currupt - sad to say. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by jimmysho(m): 3:06pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
hope the fools in governance will listen and do the right thing? |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by Mariory(m): 3:09pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
All this talk is semantics. The deed has been done. The north has overplayed it's hand for the last time. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by Pennywise(m): 3:14pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
If we have a true commander in chief, Maina along with Iwu would have been sacked by now |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by honeric01(m): 3:25pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
The GOC is an hausa man and he purposely allowed the massacre to go on. one more thing, i heard the governor has no power to instruct the army in his state, how true is that? |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by asha80(m): 3:28pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
honeric01: 100% true. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by nduchucks: 3:31pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
honeric01: I believe that is true. This is the reason why smart Governors establish very cordial relationships, by all necessary means, with the army in the state. That relationship did not exist in this case. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by mbulela: 3:33pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
Mariory:that is what we keep hearing every time. Yet they keep playing that hand. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by honeric01(m): 3:40pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
i see, then definitely, we are not practicing true democracy, why can't a governor be able to instruct the army in his state when there's an emergency? |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by honeric01(m): 3:43pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
ndu_chucks: I see, but why not look at it this way, what if it's the GOC that does not want to associate himself with the governor because he's not hausa? |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by nduchucks: 3:48pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
honeric01: I seriously doubt that. Trust me, these people love naira more than their tribes, they've been known to sell their tribes, masses, and souls for the naira. They are corrupt to the core. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by asha80(m): 3:49pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
honeric01: So you think we have been practising real federalism or democracy? |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by honeric01(m): 3:59pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
ndu_chucks: Speculation, you can't be so sure, so lets just leave it at that that the GOC is just not competent enough, he should be replaced/transferred. asha 80: In our case, i don't even know the one we are practicing at all, our system of governance is like rice concoction. |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by justfash50: 4:09pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
The simple truth is that Goc Jos has a hand in this, so also jang. The january attack on kuru was instigated by the Governor( dont ask dont tell) and this march massacre also has Goc jos hand in it.its like bosoms for tats. Both surely knows whats is going on.i hope all is made to face the consequence sooner or later |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by honeric01(m): 4:15pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
justfash50: abeg explain |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by justfash50: 4:42pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
The two are from the opposing tribes( dont ask dont tell). |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by monkeyleg: 4:44pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
I am amazed that some people would suggest that you need cordial relationships for people to do thier work. The GOC, if whats everyone is saying is true, should be removed and tried. It is absolutely disrespectful for him to suggest that he was too busy to take calls from a Former Very senior General as well as the state governor. Kick the bloody fool out. He is part of the problem |
Re: Gen Domkat Bali Speaks On GoC Jos by PapaBrowne(m): 4:46pm On Mar 14, 2010 |
Looks like the Jos crisis has finally broken the ranks of the Sharia North's dominance on Nigerian politics. Plateau, Benue, Taraba, Kogi, Half of Adamawa, Kaduna,Niger, Kwara, Nasarawa and all of Southern Nigeria are closing ranks ideologically. The Sharia/ Arewa North is finished politically!! They are left with barely 25% . They've lost dominance of the house of assembly. They've lost dominance of the military. They no longer have the population they've longed lied that they had. It's finished for Sharia/Arewa North!! It is finished!! |
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