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Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by alfarouq(m): 8:20pm On Nov 01, 2017
By: Umm Rashid

What would you call a religion whose beliefs, practices and followers are being bashed and bad-mouthed in practically every sphere of activity, in almost every corner of the globe, yet it attracts ever-increasing numbers of people?

A Paradox? A Miracle ? Or simply, The Truth: Islam.

The fact that Islam. is the fastest growing religion in the world today, is proof that our Creator has taken it upon Himself to perfect the Truth that He sent all His prophets and messengers with -- from Adam [AS] to Muhammad [SAW].

Studies conducted in the West show that the sheer number of new Muslims is changing the demographic profile of countries all over the world, and not all of them are born into Muslim families. With some 6 million adherents in the United States, Islam is said to be the nation’s fastest-growing religion. One expert estimates that 25,000 people a year become Muslims in this country; some clerics say they have seen conversion rates quadruple since Sept 11.

Ironically for a religion that is routinely bashed for “subjugating” and “oppressing” its female followers, the number of female reverts to Islam.outnumber the males 4:1!

The fact that more and more people are finding their way to Islam., notwithstanding the relentless propaganda, deliberate misinformation and outright prejudice against it, never ceases to amaze me.

How do these people navigate in the darkness to find the light of Islam. in spite of all the obstacles in the way?

The answer is that our Creator has granted each one of us a guiding light -- a pure, undefiled innate nature called the fitrah. Unlike Christians who believe in the doctrine of Original Sin and assert that each baby is born tainted with the sin of Adam’s disobedience to God, Muslims believe that every child is born into a state of purity where it recognizes its Creator and is naturally subservient to His laws.

In his book The Fundamentals of Islamic Monotheism, Abu Ameenah Bilaal Philips writes: Just as a child’s body submits to the physical laws which Allah has put in nature, its soul also submits naturally to the fact that Allah is its Lord and Creator. But its parents try to make it follow their own way and the child is not strong enough in the early stages of its life to resist or oppose its parents. The religion which the child follows at this stage is one of custom and upbringing and Allah does not hold it to account for this religion.

When the child matures in youth and clear proofs of the falsehood of its religion are brought to it, the adult must now follow the religion of knowledge and reason. At this point the devils try their best to encourage him to stay as he is or to go further astray. Evils are made pleasing to him and he must now live in the midst of a struggle between his innate pure nature and his desires in order to find the right road.

If he chooses to follow his innate nature, his fitrah, Allah will help him overcome his desires even though it may take most of his life to escape, for many people enter Islam. in their old age.

The Qur'an also points to this phenomenon, where every soul that has been created is asked Who their Lord is, and they testify that it is none other than Allah before they are born into the world.

When your Lord drew forth from the loins of the children of Aadam their descendants and made them testify concerning themselves. Saying: Am I not your Lord? They said: “Yes, we testify to it.” (This) in case you say on the Day of Judgement, “We were unaware of this.” Or in case you say: It was our ancestors who made partners (with Allah) and we are only their descendants…[Surah Al-A’raaf 7:172-173]

Explaining this verse, the Prophet [SAW] said: When Allah created Aadam [AS] , He took a covenant from him …then He extracted from him all of his descendants who would be born until the end of the world, generation after generation and spread them out in front of Him in order to take a covenant from them.

He spoke to them face to face saying: Am I not your Lord? And they all replied: Yes, we testify to it.

Allah then explained why He had all of mankind bear witness that He was their Creator and the only true God worthy of worship. He said: That was in case you (mankind) should say on the Day of Resurrection, “Surely we were unaware of all this. We had no idea that You were our God.” [Silsilah al ahadeeth as Saheehah, Narrated by ibn Abbaas, collected by Imaam Ahmad]

This is the reason why people who adopt Islaam are said to revert instead of convert, because they are going back to their original nature -- the one they were naturally created with -- which is automatically aligned with the Universe, its Creator and His Laws; as opposed to simply exchanging one set of beliefs for another.

Reverts to Islaam testify that this inner inclination to search for the Truth, to know and follow it is a major factor in their adopting the faith. It is interesting to see some of the reasons cited by reverts for adopting Islaam:

Islamic Monotheism
“The Christian sect of Athanasians insistently inculcates the tenet that Christianity is based on a belief in three gods (Trinity), that a slightest doubt as to this belief will lead one to immediate perdition; and that a person who wishes to attain salvation in this world and the next should definitely hold a belief in the three gods: God, the Son of God, and the Holy Ghost.

When I became a Muslim, I received a letter, which said: “By becoming a Muslim you have damned yourself to perdition. No one can save you. For you deny the divinity of God.” The poor man [who wrote that letter] thought that I no longer believed in God, not knowing that when Jesus had begun to preach, he stated the unity of God and he never claimed to be His son.

[Lord Headley al-Farooq; British diplomat, engineer]

An answer for every question:
“I would always search for causes and purposes for everything. I would anticipate logical explanations for them. On the other hand, the explanations provided by priests and other Christian men of religion did not satisfy me. Most of the time, instead of giving satisfactory answers to my questions, they would dismiss the matter with evasive prevarications such as, “We cannot understand these things. They are divine secrets” and “They are beyond the grasp of the human mind.”

Upon this I decided to study, on the one hand, Oriental religions, and on the other hand, books written by famous philosophers. The books written by these philosophers always dealt with such subjects as protoplasms, atoms, molecules, and particles, and did not even touch on reflections such as “What becomes of the human soul?” “Where does the soul go after death?” “How should we discipline our souls in this world?”

The Islamic religion, on the other hand, treated the human subject not only within the corporeal areas, but also along the spiritual extensions. Therefore, I chose Islam not because I had lost my way, or only because Christianity had incurred my displeasure, or as a result of sudden decision, but, on the contrary, after very minutely studying it and becoming thoroughly convinced about its greatness, singularity, solemnity and perfection

[Muhammad Alexander Russell Webb; American diplomat, author]

Direct relationship with one’s Creator:
Now I realize I can get in direct contact with God, unlike Christianity or any other religion. As one Hindu lady told me, “You don't understand the Hindus. We believe in one God; we use these objects (idols) to merely concentrate.” What she was saying was that in order to reach God, one has to create associates, that are idols for the purpose. But Islam removes all these barriers.

[Yusuf Islaam, formerly Cat Stevens]

Universality:
Islam is a religion that belongs not only to the Arabs but to the entire humanity. This universal quality presents a sharp contrast with the Judaic religion, whose holy book always refers to the God of Israel.

One more thing that I love in Islam is that this religion recognizes all the prophets, makes no distinction between them and treats the believers of other religions with compassion.

[Mahmud Gunnar Ahmad, Swedish Muslim]

Absolute equality before God, extended brotherhood:
There were tens of thousands of pilgrims, from all over the world. They were of all colors, from blue-eyed blondes to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and non-white.

America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem. Throughout my travels in the Muslim world, I have met, talked to, and even eaten with people who in America would have been considered white - but the white attitude was removed from their minds by the religion of Islam. I have never before seen sincere and true brotherhood practiced by all colors together, irrespective of their color.

You may be shocked by these words coming from me. But on this pilgrimage, what I have seen, and experienced, has forced me to rearrange much of my thought-patterns previously held, and to toss aside some of my previous conclusions. This was not too difficult for me. Despite my firm convictions, I have always been a man who tries to face facts, and to accept the reality of life as new experience and new knowledge unfolds it. I have always kept an open mind, which is necessary to the flexibility that must go hand in hand with every form of intelligent search for truth.

During the past eleven days here in the Muslim world, I have eaten from the same plate, drunk from the same glass, and slept on the same rug - while praying to the same God - with fellow Muslims, whose eyes were the bluest of blue, whose hair was the blondest of blond, and whose skin was the whitest of white. And in the words and in the deeds of the white Muslims, I felt the same sincerity that I felt among the black African Muslims of Nigeria, Sudan and Ghana. We were truly all the same (brothers) - because their belief in one God had removed the white from their minds, the white from their behavior, and the white from their attitude.

[Letter written from Makkah, by Malcolm X]

Purity of prayer:
If I were asked what impressed me most in the religion of Islam, I would probably say the prayers, because prayers in Christianity are used wholly in begging God (through Jesus Christ) to grant worldly favours, whereas in Islam they ar used to give praise and thanks to Almighty God for all His blessings since He knows what is necessary for our welfare and grants us what we need without our asking it.

[Cecilia Mahmuda Cannolly, Australian Muslim]

Women’s rights and status:
No doubt, influenced by the usual condemnation of Islam from Christian pulpits on the subject, I picked on polygamy. At last I thought I had something; obviously Western monogamy was an improvement on this old system. I talked of it to my Muslim friend. He illustrated with the aid of newspaper articles how much true monogamy there was in England, and convinced me that a limited polygamy was the answer to the secret unions that are becoming so distressingly common in the West. My own common sense could see that, particularly after a war, when women of a certain age group far outnumber men, a percentage of them are destined to remain spinsters. Did God give them life for that? I recollect that on the radio programme known as `Dear Sir' an unmarried English girl had called for lawful polygamy, saying she would prefer a shared married life rather than the loneliness to which she seemed to be destined. In Islam no one is forced into a polygamous marriage, but in a perfect religion, the opportunity must be there to meet those cases where it is necessary.

[Mavis B Jolly, UK]

Belief in the Qur’aan as Divine Revelation:
I read as much of the Qur’aan as I could. I was immersed in it. As I read the verses in English, I repeated to myself over and over again, this is what I have always thought and believed. What kind of book was this? Before long I was reading the book and crying, and reading and crying... it was as if something had overtaken me... I forgot what I was looking for in particular, however when I came upon the verses in Surah Baqarah 122-141 regarding Prophet Ibrahim (AS) I had found my answer.

I had been searching for Isma'il (as), son of Prophet Ibrahim and his wife Hajarah, who had been missing from the Hebrew brothers story. In those verses I found the truth of religion... They say: Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (to salvation). Say thou: Nay! (I would rather) the religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah. Say ye: We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) the Prophets from their Lord; We make no difference between one another of them: and we submit to Allah." (2:135-136) As I continued to read and cry, I became intent upon finding someone who could connect me with others who believed in this book!

[K H Abdul Lateef, USA]

The personal example of the Prophet Muhammad [SAW]:
I accepted Islam because I admired the Prophet Muhammad.[SAW]. I had quite a number of Muslim friends in Zanzibar, who gave me Islamic books, which I read in secrecy from my family. I became a Muslim despite the remonstrances of my family and the oppressions of the priests of Parsee religion, which had been my religion until that time. I held fast to my religion and resisted against all sorts of threats. Now I love Allah and His last Prophet Muhammad [SAW] more than my life

[Faruq B Karai, Zanzibar]

Islaam withstands scrutiny and encourages reasoning:
Instead of asking a follower to believe in its precepts just ”because” or someone asks them to, Islaam encourages people to think for themselves, reflect on the signs of God in Creation and within their own selves. Little wonder then that a sizable number of reverts are thinking people: scientists, astronomers, philosophers, doctors.

As created beings who can neither grant life nor ward off death, we owe it to ourselves and The One Who Created Us to discover the Truth, to follow it and to facilitate others to do the same.

[Source: All quotes from "Why I chose Islaam" and "Islaam: My choice"]
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by AlfaSeltzer(m): 8:21pm On Nov 01, 2017
wtf
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by Emmanystone: 10:36pm On Nov 01, 2017
You were born a Muslim, yet you chose Islam? You dey feel yaself so?

You wouldn't need to choose anything if you were born it. It's like saying you chose to be a Black Nigerian haven been born a black Nigerian.

This is not sensible at all.

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Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by dalaman: 10:51pm On Nov 01, 2017
What the hell is this?
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by Humanistme: 11:39pm On Nov 01, 2017
when I first started questioning Christianity, I looked at Islam as a possible alternative and this claim right here is one thing that made me see Islam as a fabrication. There is no evidence whatsoever that shows human beings at any point in history practiced one religion. religious beliefs is tied to culture and we are culturally diverse.

Most ancient religions in different cultures also started as polytheism.

Hinduism is one of the oldest religions in the world and it is nothing like Islam.
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by hopefulLandlord: 11:50pm On Nov 01, 2017
Believe It Or Not: OP makes no sense!
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by hopefulLandlord: 11:50pm On Nov 01, 2017
Humanistme:
when I first started questioning Christianity, I looked at Islam as a possible alternative and this claim right here is one thing that made me see Islam as a fabrication. There is no evidence whatsoever that shows human beings at any point in history practiced one religion. religious beliefs is tied to culture and we are culturally diverse.

Most ancient religions in different cultures also started as polytheism.

Hinduism is one of the oldest religions in the world and it is nothing like Islam.

this makes a lot of sense

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Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by kingvicky(m): 12:22am On Nov 02, 2017
This has no logical backing. It is impossible to be born with a religious affiliation. Perceptions of the natural are sources of guidance to a neonate and his instincts spring from there...
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by enilove(m): 12:48am On Nov 02, 2017
Allah is not the Creator of anything. Can't you see his house (Kabaah) in mecca , clothed with black silk ?
He resides in there.

Muhammed can never be called a child of God according to Bible standard , talkless of Prophet. He was not a Prophet of God but Prophet of allah god of his ancestor , who were KNOWN Idol worshippers. He was a satanic Prophet.

Muhammed and his gangs had the copy of the Bible with them.He copied all those stories from the Bible.

Quran is full of lies .
WHO WAS THE FIRST MUSLIM?
Answer from Quran and allah:

Abraham...

وَإِذْ يَرْفَعُ إِبْرٰهِـۧمُ الْقَوَاعِدَ مِنَ الْبَيْتِ وَإِسْمٰعِيلُ رَبَّنَا تَقَبَّلْ مِنَّآ ۖ إِنَّكَ أَنْتَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ
"And [mention] when Abraham was raising the foundations of the House and [with him] Ishmael, [saying], "Our Lord, accept [this] from us. Indeed You are the Hearing, the Knowing."
(QS. Al-Baqara: Verse 127)

Some Egyptians.....
Allah SWT says:

قَالَ ءَامَنْتُمْ لَهُ ۥ قَبْلَ أَنْ ءَاذَنَ لَكُمْ ۖ إِنَّهُ ۥ لَكَبِيرُكُمُ الَّذِى عَلَّمَكُمُ السِّحْرَ فَلَسَوْفَ تَعْلَمُونَ ۚ لَأُقَطِّعَنَّ أَيْدِيَكُمْ وَأَرْجُلَكُمْ مِّنْ خِلٰفٍ وَلَأُصَلِّبَنَّكُمْ أَجْمَعِينَ
"[Pharaoh] said, "You believed Moses before I gave you permission. Indeed, he is your leader who has taught you magic, but you are going to know. I will surely cut off your hands and your feet on opposite sides, and I will surely crucify you all.""
قَالُوا لَا ضَيْرَ ۖ إِنَّآ إِلٰى رَبِّنَا مُنْقَلِبُونَ
"They said, "No harm. Indeed, to our Lord we will return."
إِنَّا نَطْمَعُ أَنْ يَغْفِرَ لَنَا رَبُّنَا خَطٰيٰنَآ أَنْ كُنَّآ أَوَّلَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
"Indeed, we aspire that our Lord will forgive us our sins because we were the first of the believers.""
(QS. Ash-Shu'araa: Verse 49- 51)

Moses...

وَلَمَّا جَآءَ مُوسٰى لِمِيقٰتِنَا وَكَلَّمَهُ ۥ رَبُّهُ ۥ قَالَ رَبِّ أَرِنِىٓ أَنْظُرْ إِلَيْكَ ۚ قَالَ لَنْ تَرٰىنِى وَلٰكِنِ انْظُرْ إِلَى الْجَبَلِ فَإِنِ اسْتَقَرَّ مَكَانَهُ ۥ فَسَوْفَ تَرٰىنِى ۚ فَلَمَّا تَجَلّٰى رَبُّهُ ۥ لِلْجَبَلِ جَعَلَهُ ۥ دَكًّا وَخَرَّ مُوسٰى صَعِقًا ۚ فَلَمَّآ أَفَاقَ قَالَ سُبْحٰنَكَ تُبْتُ إِلَيْكَ وَأَنَا۠ أَوَّلُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
"And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, "My Lord, show me [Yourself] that I may look at You." [Allah] said, "You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me." But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious. And when he awoke, he said, "Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and I am the first of the believers.""
(QS. Al-A'raaf: Verse 143)

Muhammed..

قُلْ أَغَيْرَ اللَّهِ أَتَّخِذُ وَلِيًّا فَاطِرِ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَهُوَ يُطْعِمُ وَلَا يُطْعَمُ ۗ قُلْ إِنِّىٓ أُمِرْتُ أَنْ أَكُونَ أَوَّلَ مَنْ أَسْلَمَ ۖ وَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
"Say, "Is it other than Allah I should take as a protector, Creator of the heavens and the earth, while it is He who feeds and is not fed?" Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, I have been commanded to be the first [among you] who submit [to Allah] and [was commanded], 'Do not ever be of the polytheists.' ""
(QS. Al-An'aam: Verse 14)
قُلْ إِنَّ صَلَاتِى وَنُسُكِى وَمَحْيَاىَ وَمَمَاتِى لِلَّهِ رَبِّ الْعٰلَمِينَ
"Say, "Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah, Lord of the worlds."
(QS. Al-An'aam: Verse 162)
Allah SWT says:
لَا شَرِيكَ لَهُ ۥ ۖ وَبِذٰلِكَ أُمِرْتُ وَأَنَا۠ أَوَّلُ الْمُسْلِمِينَ
"No partner has He. And this I have been commanded, and I am the first [among you] of the Muslims.""
(QS. Al-An'aam: Verse 163)

No wonder it was said by those who knew him that he was an inventor of lies:
Allah SWT says:

وَإِذَا بَدَّلْنَآ ءَايَةً مَّكَانَ ءَايَةٍ ۙ وَاللَّهُ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا يُنَزِّلُ قَالُوٓا إِنَّمَآ أَنْتَ مُفْتَرٍ ۚ بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ
"And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]." But most of them do not know."
(QS. An-Nahl: Verse 101)

He was substituting one verse for another because allah was making mistakes , since he is a fake god and making muhammed a false Prophet.

I was not created by allah that lives in a house built by men and who was displaced from his Kabaah for about 3,000 years b4 getting his house back from the other 360 gods like him.
He doesn't have power to make men to server him willingly until muhamed came and started slaughtering people for him.
No miracle , no signs no wonders to show that would make people believe his is god.
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by shittufarukumar(m): 4:59am On Nov 02, 2017
enilove:
Allah is not the Creator of anything. Can't you see his house (Kabaah) in mecca , clothed with black silk ?
He resides in there.

Muhammed can never be called a child of God according to Bible standard , talkless of Prophet. He was not a Prophet of God but Prophet of allah god of his ancestor , who were KNOWN Idol worshippers. He was a satanic Prophet.

Muhammed and his gangs had the copy of the Bible with them.He copied all those stories from the Bible.

Quran is full of lies .
WHO WAS THE FIRST MUSLIM?
Answer from Quran and allah:

Abraham...

وَإِذْ يَرْفَعُ إِبْرٰهِـۧمُ الْقَوَاعِدَ مِنَ الْبَيْتِ وَإِسْمٰعِيلُ رَبَّنَا تَقَبَّلْ مِنَّآ ۖ إِنَّكَ أَنْتَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ
"And [mention] when Abraham was raising the foundations of the House and [with him] Ishmael, [saying], "Our Lord, accept [this] from us. Indeed You are the Hearing, the Knowing."
(QS. Al-Baqara: Verse 127)

Some Egyptians.....
Allah SWT says:

قَالَ ءَامَنْتُمْ لَهُ ۥ قَبْلَ أَنْ ءَاذَنَ لَكُمْ ۖ إِنَّهُ ۥ لَكَبِيرُكُمُ الَّذِى عَلَّمَكُمُ السِّحْرَ فَلَسَوْفَ تَعْلَمُونَ ۚ لَأُقَطِّعَنَّ أَيْدِيَكُمْ وَأَرْجُلَكُمْ مِّنْ خِلٰفٍ وَلَأُصَلِّبَنَّكُمْ أَجْمَعِينَ
"[Pharaoh] said, "You believed Moses before I gave you permission. Indeed, he is your leader who has taught you magic, but you are going to know. I will surely cut off your hands and your feet on opposite sides, and I will surely crucify you all.""
قَالُوا لَا ضَيْرَ ۖ إِنَّآ إِلٰى رَبِّنَا مُنْقَلِبُونَ
"They said, "No harm. Indeed, to our Lord we will return."
إِنَّا نَطْمَعُ أَنْ يَغْفِرَ لَنَا رَبُّنَا خَطٰيٰنَآ أَنْ كُنَّآ أَوَّلَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
"Indeed, we aspire that our Lord will forgive us our sins because we were the first of the believers.""
(QS. Ash-Shu'araa: Verse 49- 51)

Moses...

وَلَمَّا جَآءَ مُوسٰى لِمِيقٰتِنَا وَكَلَّمَهُ ۥ رَبُّهُ ۥ قَالَ رَبِّ أَرِنِىٓ أَنْظُرْ إِلَيْكَ ۚ قَالَ لَنْ تَرٰىنِى وَلٰكِنِ انْظُرْ إِلَى الْجَبَلِ فَإِنِ اسْتَقَرَّ مَكَانَهُ ۥ فَسَوْفَ تَرٰىنِى ۚ فَلَمَّا تَجَلّٰى رَبُّهُ ۥ لِلْجَبَلِ جَعَلَهُ ۥ دَكًّا وَخَرَّ مُوسٰى صَعِقًا ۚ فَلَمَّآ أَفَاقَ قَالَ سُبْحٰنَكَ تُبْتُ إِلَيْكَ وَأَنَا۠ أَوَّلُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ
"And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, "My Lord, show me [Yourself] that I may look at You." [Allah] said, "You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me." But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious. And when he awoke, he said, "Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and I am the first of the believers.""
(QS. Al-A'raaf: Verse 143)

Muhammed..

قُلْ أَغَيْرَ اللَّهِ أَتَّخِذُ وَلِيًّا فَاطِرِ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَالْأَرْضِ وَهُوَ يُطْعِمُ وَلَا يُطْعَمُ ۗ قُلْ إِنِّىٓ أُمِرْتُ أَنْ أَكُونَ أَوَّلَ مَنْ أَسْلَمَ ۖ وَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ
"Say, "Is it other than Allah I should take as a protector, Creator of the heavens and the earth, while it is He who feeds and is not fed?" Say, [O Muhammad], "Indeed, I have been commanded to be the first [among you] who submit [to Allah] and [was commanded], 'Do not ever be of the polytheists.' ""
(QS. Al-An'aam: Verse 14)
قُلْ إِنَّ صَلَاتِى وَنُسُكِى وَمَحْيَاىَ وَمَمَاتِى لِلَّهِ رَبِّ الْعٰلَمِينَ
"Say, "Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah, Lord of the worlds."
(QS. Al-An'aam: Verse 162)
Allah SWT says:
لَا شَرِيكَ لَهُ ۥ ۖ وَبِذٰلِكَ أُمِرْتُ وَأَنَا۠ أَوَّلُ الْمُسْلِمِينَ
"No partner has He. And this I have been commanded, and I am the first [among you] of the Muslims.""
(QS. Al-An'aam: Verse 163)

No wonder it was said by those who knew him that he was an inventor of lies:
Allah SWT says:

وَإِذَا بَدَّلْنَآ ءَايَةً مَّكَانَ ءَايَةٍ ۙ وَاللَّهُ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا يُنَزِّلُ قَالُوٓا إِنَّمَآ أَنْتَ مُفْتَرٍ ۚ بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ
"And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]." But most of them do not know."
(QS. An-Nahl: Verse 101)

He was substituting one verse for another because allah was making mistakes , since he is a fake god and making muhammed a false Prophet.

I was not created by allah that lives in a house built by men and who was displaced from his Kabaah for about 3,000 years b4 getting his house back from the other 360 gods like him.
He doesn't have power to make men to server him willingly until muhamed came and started slaughtering people for him.
No miracle , no signs no wonders to show that would make people believe his is god.








this man!!!
Is it just me or ur IQ is depleting every second of day
Because every time you post a comment you post an entirely different verse from d quran


I was expecting u to quote where Allah said I live in Kaabah on earth and unfortunately for u u couldnt
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by enilove(m): 12:31pm On Nov 02, 2017
shittufarukumar:
this man!!!
Is it just me or ur IQ is depleting every second of day
Because every time you post a comment you post an entirely different verse from d quran


I was expecting u to quote where Allah said I live in Kaabah on earth and unfortunately for u u couldnt

Do you think the devil will inform of his identity? No . It is by their fruit you shall know them.
Allah or Muhammad will not tell you . When there were 360 idols in the Kabaah , the ancestors of muhammed used to circumvent the kabaah because their idols were inside. Why then should muhammed ask muslims to continue the same ritual of going round the kabaah again if there is nothing like idol inside of it. Why so much regard for a mere building , even clothing it .Muslims think.

The quran verses I quoted were in alignment with the topic of the thread. Op stated that evey one is born as a muslim . How is it wrong to show him that the quran says Muhammed , Moses, Egyptians Abraham and Adam were the first muslims when they were diff people ?

You don't need to get angry over that revelation , just take your time and read the Surahs and hadiths after then , pray to God concerning the true religion that would not take you to hell.
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by ysyowel(m): 1:00pm On Nov 02, 2017
grin grin grin
do I hear you say all are born Muslims,
even we the Christians the world most populated religion are not claiming all are born Christians
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by shittufarukumar(m): 1:04pm On Nov 02, 2017
enilove:


Do you think the devil will inform of his identity? No . It is by their fruit you shall know them.
Allah or Muhammad will not tell you . When there were 360 idols in the Kabaah , the ancestors of muhammed used to circumvent the kabaah because their idols were inside. Why then should muhammed ask muslims to continue the same ritual of going round the kabaah again if there is nothing like idol inside of it. Why so much regard for a mere building , even clothing it .Muslims think.

The quran verses I quoted were in alignment with the topic of the thread. Op stated that evey one is born as a muslim . How is it wrong to show him that the quran says Muhammed , Moses, Egyptians Abraham and Adam were the first muslims when they were diff people ?

You don't need to get angry over that revelation , just take your time and read the Surahs and hadiths after then , pray to God concerning the true religion that would not take you to hell.





Oh i see its the kabaah that is ur problem

There is nothing inside it(kaabak). Makkah is an open city u go there for u to confirm what's in the kaabah

u no knw why there so much regard for d buiding
1 it's the qibla
2 it's Signifies unity
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by enilove(m): 1:54pm On Nov 02, 2017
shittufarukumar:


Oh i see its the kabaah that is ur problem

There is nothing inside it(kaabak). Makkah is an open city u go there for u to confirm what's in the kaabah

u no knw why there so much regard for d buiding
1 it's the qibla
2 it's Signifies unity

Okay. It may be so. What about the kissing of the black stone ;

Volume 2, Book 26, Number 675:

Narrated Zaid bin Aslam from his father who said:

"Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, 'By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' 'Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'

Volume 2, Book 26, Number 710:

Narrated 'Asim:

I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " (2.158)

Why doing the things idol worshippers were known for. They used to go round the kabaah , they used to kiss or worship the black stone and used to Tawaf , used to throw stone at Satan etc.?

Why did muhammed say this?

Volume 2, Book 15, Number 72:

Narrated Aisha:

Abu Bakr came to my house while two small Ansari girls were singing beside me the stories of the Ansar concerning the Day of Buath. And they were not singers. Abu Bakr said protestingly, "Musical instruments of Satan in the house of Allah's Apostle !" It happened on the 'Id day and Allah's Apostle said, "O Abu Bakr! There is an 'Id for every nation and this is our 'Id."

Why this accusation?

Volume 2, Book 21, Number 225:

Narrated Jundab bin 'Abdullah :

Gabriel did not come to the Prophet (for some time) and so one of the Quraish women said, "His Satan has deserted him." So came the Divine Revelation: "By the forenoon And by the night When it is still! Your Lord (O Muhammad) has neither Forsaken you Nor hated you." (93.1-3)
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by shittufarukumar(m): 3:05pm On Nov 02, 2017
enilove:


Okay. It may be so. What about the kissing of the black stone ;

Volume 2, Book 26, Number 675:

Narrated Zaid bin Aslam from his father who said:

"Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, 'By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' 'Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'

Volume 2, Book 26, Number 710:

Narrated 'Asim:

I asked Anas bin Malik: "Did you use to dislike to perform Tawaf between Safa and Marwa?" He said, "Yes, as it was of the ceremonies of the days of the Pre-lslamic period of ignorance, till Allah revealed: 'Verily! (The two mountains) As-Safa and Al-Marwa are among the symbols of Allah. It is therefore no sin for him who performs the pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, or performs 'Umra, to perform Tawaf between them.' " (2.158)

Why doing the things idol worshippers were known for. They used to go round the kabaah , they used to kiss or worship the black stone and used to Tawaf , used to throw stone at Satan etc.?

Why did muhammed say this?

Volume 2, Book 15, Number 72:

Narrated Aisha:

Abu Bakr came to my house while two small Ansari girls were singing beside me the stories of the Ansar concerning the Day of Buath. And they were not singers. Abu Bakr said protestingly, "Musical instruments of Satan in the house of Allah's Apostle !" It happened on the 'Id day and Allah's Apostle said, "O Abu Bakr! There is an 'Id for every nation and this is our 'Id."

Why this accusation?

Volume 2, Book 21, Number 225:

Narrated Jundab bin 'Abdullah :

Gabriel did not come to the Prophet (for some time) and so one of the Quraish women said, "His Satan has deserted him." So came the Divine Revelation: "By the forenoon And by the night When it is still! Your Lord (O Muhammad) has neither Forsaken you Nor hated you." (93.1-3)



it's like What about the kissing of the cross or statue of mary mother of christ
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by enilove(m): 5:49pm On Nov 02, 2017
shittufarukumar:
it's like What about the kissing of the cross or statue of mary mother of christ

That is idolatery as well.
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by enilove(m): 5:55pm On Nov 02, 2017
shittufarukumar:
it's like What about the kissing of the cross or statue of mary mother of christ

That is idolatery as well for the christians that do it. It is not in the Bible to kiss cross or statutes.

It is also idolatery to have the pictures of mary or Jesus in your church and bow to them.

It is written :
Exodus 20:4-6 KJV
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
[5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
[6] And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by shittufarukumar(m): 6:02pm On Nov 02, 2017
enilove:


That is idolatery as well for the christians that do it. It is not in the Bible to kiss cross or statutes.

It is also idolatery to have the pictures of mary or Jesus in your church and bow to them.

It is written :
Exodus 20:4-6 KJV
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
[5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
[6] And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

is it also in the quran that u must practice every thim Allah's apostle did ?
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by OtemSapien: 6:04pm On Nov 02, 2017
The rate of growth of Islam is directly proportional to the number of ignorant people who are currently on earth. When enlightened people are more on earth, Islam will start reducing.
As light casts shadow of opaque objects at its path, so shall enlightenment turn Islam to a shadow of itself. Ase!!!
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by shittufarukumar(m): 6:07pm On Nov 02, 2017
OtemSapien:
The rate of growth of Islam is directly proportional to the number of ignorant people who are currently on earth. When enlightened people are more on earth, Islam will start reducing.
As light casts shadow of opaque objects at its path, so shall enlightenment turn Islam to a shadow of itself. Ase!!!
funny guy
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by OtemSapien: 6:11pm On Nov 02, 2017
shittufarukumar:
funny guy
Umoru, son of Shittu, I throway salute o. wink
Re: Believe It Or Not: You Were Born Muslim! by shittufarukumar(m): 6:41pm On Nov 02, 2017
OtemSapien:
Umoru, son of Shittu, I throway salute o. wink
carry on

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