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Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by superstar1(m): 3:46pm On Dec 02, 2017
MayorofLagos:
The more the contention over Lagos, its identity, its origin, its ownership, tha more it awakens consciousness in the indigenes and promote a conservative stance to exclude non-entities and competitors in the affairs of their state.

The reference to Fashola has to do with his appointment of Ibos into his cabinet and the lackadisical attitude that led to Ibos winning legislative spots in Lagos under his watch. We see Ambode has reversed the practice and exluded non-Yorubas from the cabinet. 2019, all legislative positions are going to be returned to the House of Oduduwa.

Come 2019, they will not win in front of their houses talkless of any post.

The last local government election, which is meant to be grassroot election, was a prototype of what is to come on them in 2019.

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Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 3:50pm On Dec 02, 2017
MayorofLagos:
The more the contention over Lagos, its identity, its origin, its ownership, tha more it awakens consciousness in the indigenes and promote a conservative stance to exclude non-entities and competitors in the affairs of their state.

The reference to Fashola has to do with his appointment of Ibos into his cabinet and the lackadisical attitude that led to Ibos winning legislative spots in Lagos under his watch. We see Ambode has reversed the practice and exluded non-Yorubas from the cabinet. 2019, all legislative positions are going to be returned to the House of Oduduwa.

We should be open for Nigeria of tomorrow. The governor has prerogative of appointments and he gives to whom he chooses based on his approved criteria but it is expected that such appointments should reflect the diversity that has made Lagos so prosperous and cosmopolitan. Take a look at the Igbo who took appointments in Lagos state government. They are Igbo in name only but fully Lagosians. Is Joe Igbokwe not one of them. A man that shoots down anything Igbo.
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 3:53pm On Dec 02, 2017
superstar1:


Come 2019, they will not win in front of their houses talkless of any post.

The last local government election, which is meant to be grassroot election, was a prototype of what is to come on them in 2019.

Are we still operating democracy. Is democracy not a game of numbers. If you take advantage of the system today you might not succeed in it for ever. Please define what you understand by one Nigeria that fratricidal blood was shed to ensure that it thrives.
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by bakynes(m): 4:15pm On Dec 02, 2017
jomonic:


Are we still operating democracy. Is democracy not a game of numbers. If you take advantage of the system today you might not succeed in it for ever. Please define what you understand by one Nigeria that fratricidal blood was shed to ensure that it thrives.
As much as we still operating in democracy without the help of White Americans,Obama wouldn't have been the first Black President of America,so like wise the Igbo house of reps and house of Assembly members wouldn't have been there without the consent of Yoruba's in Lagos.

Sincerely if not for the way Igbos shout Lagos is no man's land, I don't mind Igbos having more seats so far they are representing their people's interest.

Isolo-Okota/Ago-Palace way, Amuwo-Odofin/Festac area are dominated by Igbos so it's normal to have an Igbo man representing their interest but as it is now with the insults and distorting our history of ownership of Lagos just to discredit us, I will advise the Governor and Asiwaju to take proactive steps to reallocate those positions back to Yoruba's.

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Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 4:28pm On Dec 02, 2017
bakynes:

As much as we still operating in democracy without the help of White Americans,Obama wouldn't have been the first Black President of America,so like wise the Igbo house of reps and house of Assembly members wouldn't have been there without the consent of Yoruba's in Lagos.

Sincerely if not for the way Igbos shout Lagos is no man's land, I don't mind Igbos having more seats so far they are representing their people's interest.

Isolo-Okota/Ago-Palace way, Amuwo-Odofin/Festac area are dominated by Igbos so it's normal to have an Igbo man representing their interest but as it is now with the insults and distorting our history of ownership of Lagos just to discredit us, I will advise the Governor and Asiwaju to take proactive steps to reallocate those positions back to Yoruba's.

Brilliant submission. The 2019 elections is a litmus test for yorubas. We need to tune off the online hate and transfer it offline. We dont need to argue with these people on the internet.
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 4:29pm On Dec 02, 2017
bakynes:

As much as we still operating in democracy without the help of White Americans,Obama wouldn't have been the first Black President of America,so like wise the Igbo house of reps and house of Assembly members wouldn't have been there without the consent of Yoruba's in Lagos.

Sincerely if not for the way Igbos shout Lagos is no man's land, I don't mind Igbos having more seats so far they are representing their people's interest.

Isolo-Okota/Ago-Palace way, Amuwo-Odofin/Festac area are dominated by Igbos so it's normal to have an Igbo man representing their interest but as it is now with the insults and distorting our history of ownership of Lagos just to discredit us, I will advise the Governor and Asiwaju to take proactive steps to reallocate those positions back to Yoruba's.

Consent of Yoruba's in Lagos. Asiwaju to reallocate? This is not democracy. For this to happen we need to change the constitution to allow it. The people under the legislative area have the power to transfer mandate not necessarily Yoruba or Asiwaju. We must understand what one indivisible Nigeria entails. Nigeria has survived on proceeds of oil and gas for over 40 years. All infrastructure development in Nigeria is from oil and gas. We need to appreciate this and be guided in the way we appraise our understanding of one Nigeria.
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 4:32pm On Dec 02, 2017
jomonic:


Consent of Yoruba's in Lagos. Asiwaju to reallocate? This is not democracy. For this to happen we need to change the constitution to allow it. The people under the legislative area have the power to transfer mandate not necessarily Yoruba or Asiwaju. We must understand what one indivisible Nigeria entails. Nigeria has survived on proceeds of oil and gas for over 40 years. All infrastructure development in Nigeria is from oil and gas. We need to appreciate this and be guided in the way we appraise our understanding of one Nigeria.

You are speaking english. Anything short of revocation of those offices is a slap on the face of the generality of yorubas given the amount of hate and insults heaped on our tribe by the igbos.

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Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 4:40pm On Dec 02, 2017
Alcatraz005:


You are speaking english. Anything short of revocation of those offices is a slap on the face of the generality of yorubas given the amount of hate and insults heaped on our tribe by the igbos.

I think you have to eschew sentiment and face reality. I am looking at a Nigeria of equal opportunities. The way Canada or USA will admit you and you become a part of them. This is the vision of our founding fathers. I believe that it is the ideal that fired the passion behind the coalition that shed fratricidal blood for the sake of one indivisible Nigeria. If Nigeria thrives on this ideal we will be as great as the world super powers.
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by bakynes(m): 5:09pm On Dec 02, 2017
jomonic:


I think you have to eschew sentiment and face reality. I am looking at a Nigeria of equal opportunities. The way Canada or USA will admit you and you become a part of them. This is the vision of our founding fathers. I believe that it is the ideal that fired the passion behind the coalition that shed fratricidal blood for the sake of one indivisible Nigeria. If Nigeria thrives on this ideal we will be as great as the world super powers.
We are also looking at it from that angle but the Igbos have insulted our magnanimity, they now call us Cowards, no Nigerian will ever tell Americans they are cowards and other insults they met out to us.

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Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 5:15pm On Dec 02, 2017
bakynes:

We are also looking at it from that angle but the Igbos have insulted our magnanimity, they now call us Cowards, no Nigerian will ever tell Americans they are cowards and other insults they met out to us.

I think that is the product of bashing in reciprocity. We should move on. Words cannot describe how the Igbo feel when you gloat over their misfortune in the civil war; that they deserve the suffering and subsequent marginalization and justify the action of your people.
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by ZorGBUooeh: 5:21pm On Dec 02, 2017
MayorofLagos:
The more the contention over Lagos, its identity, its origin, its ownership, tha more it awakens consciousness in the indigenes and promote a conservative stance to exclude non-entities and competitors in the affairs of their state.

The reference to Fashola has to do with his appointment of Ibos into his cabinet and the lackadisical attitude that led to Ibos winning legislative spots in Lagos under his watch. We see Ambode has reversed the practice and exluded non-Yorubas from the cabinet. 2019, all legislative positions are going to be returned to the House of Oduduwa.
Hahahahahaha! Im pain am reach marrow..Mr man if you want ibos to stay of lagos thread then stay off anytin biafra or ibo thread..Simple
Any LAKADASTIKAL attitude from you guys will be resisted. cool
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 7:40pm On Dec 03, 2017
LIES, LIES, LIES. A FICTITIOUS NARRATIVE AND AN EXERCISE IN FUTILITY.
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE HISTORY OF LAGOS THAT WE WERE TAUGHT IN PRIMARY SCHOOL DURING SOCIAL STUDIES.
GO READ D WHITEMAN ACCOUNT ON LAGOS AND RE-ASSESS UR WRITE UP. WHY ARE PEOPLE SUDDENLY TRYING TO DISTORT HISTORY.
BOTH YORUBA AND BINI HISTORY ACKNOWLEDGE THE PRESENSE OF INDIGENOUS TRIBES BEFORE THE CONQUEST OF EKO BY BINI.
WHO WAS THE 1ST OBA OF LAGOS, WHERE WAS OLOFIN WHEN ADO WAS OBA OF LAGOS.?
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Vivere: 9:38pm On Dec 06, 2017
internationalman:

You want proof?
Don't mind him. angry

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Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Vivere: 11:00am On Dec 07, 2017
internationalman:

Then you are a fool for deciding my tribe for me

Your level is way above that clown whose post you quoted. Ignore the MoFo.
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by internationalman(m): 11:23am On Dec 07, 2017
Vivere:


Your level is way above that clown whose post you quoted. Ignore the MoFo.
Thanks
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Vivere: 11:31am On Dec 07, 2017
jomonic:
We should be open for Nigeria of tomorrow. The governor has prerogative of appointments and he gives to whom he chooses based on his approved criteria but it is expected that such appointments should reflect the diversity that has made Lagos so prosperous and cosmopolitan. Take a look at the Igbo who took appointments in Lagos state government. They are Igbo in name only but fully Lagosians. Is Joe Igbokwe not one of them. A man that shoots down anything Igbo.

Igbokwe only tells the truth to the Igbo. He calls it as he sees it. You chaps expect him to support any mindless, thoughtless action embarked upon by your people, simply because such an action was created by an Igbo man. Igbokwe always points out the folly in such an action, and your people hate him for that. sad Instead of debating his points logically, your Igbo chaps choose to insult him and unleash verbal attacks on his person, because he does not toe your line no matter how foolish it is. How does one describe that?

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Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 1:41pm On Dec 07, 2017
Vivere:


Igbokwe only tells the truth to the Igbo. He calls it as he sees it. You chaps expect him to support any mindless, thoughtless action embarked upon by your people, simply because such an action was created by an Igbo man. Igbokwe always points out the folly in such an action, and your people hate him for that. sad Instead of debating his points logically, your Igbo chaps choose to insult him and unleash verbal attacks on his person, because he does not toe your line no matter how foolish it is. How does one describe that?

You're dead wrong. Joe is living his dream. He knows just what to say to attract your sympathy and earn more Naira from your government coffers. He understands your mood and pretentiousness to sophistication so he highlights this all the time. Most of his position on the Igbo tend to align with the perspective of Yoruba about the Igbo. Things like Igbo should be grateful to their hosts; and similar rubbish. How can one be a guest in his own country? No one heard his voice when the Oba of Lagos issued threats on the Igbo which most of you justify even though we operate a democracy. That's so much for saying the truth to Igbo.
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by macof(m): 8:56pm On Dec 07, 2017
AxxeMan:
Lagos is Edo territory and will always be part and parcel of the Edo commonwealth
Bini is Yoruba territory ruled by a Yoruba Prince grin
We are coming to take the land soon and repopulate it cheesy
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by macof(m): 9:00pm On Dec 07, 2017
ZorGBUooeh:
Hahahahaha! Sheybi na jazz man olofin ad ogunmire abi na aromire get lagos baa?Ngwa make dem descendant go sit down for oba throne na make im flog dem better OGUME cheesy
they are just as powerful if not more than the Oba of Lagos


Eko na bini war camp from were binis launch attacks on dem yoruba slaves.
grin grin why would anyone launch attacks on his slaves? Your brain is not functionally at all
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by macof(m): 9:02pm On Dec 07, 2017
imhotep:

IPOB is innocent.
Respect Oba Akiolu
he never said that. He cannot. Dem no born am well to say such
Tinubu will not be able to help him
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 9:05pm On Dec 07, 2017
macof:
he never said that. He cannot. Dem no born am well to say such
Tinubu will not be able to help him
you lie

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Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by macof(m): 9:10pm On Dec 07, 2017
imhotep:

you lie

The article lies. Akiolu cannot dare
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 9:27pm On Dec 07, 2017
macof:


The article lies. Akiolu cannot dare
you just want to disagree for the sake of disagreement grin grin

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Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by macof(m): 10:30pm On Dec 07, 2017
imhotep:

you just want to disagree for the sake of disagreement grin grin
I am not talking about Bembe na... Bembe's family have already come out to disgrace the old fool.

But Akiolu never said Lagos doesn't belong to Yoruba. He cannot
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by AxxeMan: 10:46pm On Dec 07, 2017
imhotep:

you just want to disagree for the sake of disagreement grin grin

grin grin grin

His lies cannot help his tribe

Lagos still remains Edo Territory cheesy

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Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by AxxeMan: 10:49pm On Dec 07, 2017
ZorGBUooeh:
Hahahahaha! Sheybi na jazz man olofin ad ogunmire abi na aromire get lagos baa?Ngwa make dem descendant go sit down for oba throne na make im flog dem better OGUME cheesy

Eko na bini war camp from were binis launch attacks on dem yoruba slaves.

grin grin grin grin grin grin
cheesy cheesy grin
cheesy wink wink wink
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Vivere: 12:42am On Dec 08, 2017
jomonic:
You're dead wrong. Joe is living his dream. He knows just what to say to attract your sympathy and earn more Naira from your government coffers. He understands your mood and pretentiousness to sophistication so he highlights this all the time. Most of his position on the Igbo tend to align with the perspective of Yoruba about the Igbo. Things like Igbo should be grateful to their hosts; and similar rubbish. How can one be a guest in his own country? No one heard his voice when the Oba of Lagos issued threats on the Igbo which most of you justify even though we operate a democracy. That's so much for saying the truth to Igbo.
How sad. sad Your response just proves what I was saying earlier. You are even blaming Joe Igbokwe, for not taking Oba Akiolu to task over his remarks about the lagoon, when over 18 of your Eze Ndigbo in Lagos were in attendance on that day, and even clapped for the Oba?? shocked Why didn't those people say anything? Now you are blaming an Igbokwe who was not even at the location, where it all happened. Okay, we have heard.
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Vivere: 12:43am On Dec 08, 2017
macof:
I am not talking about Bembe na... Bembe's family have already come out to disgrace the old fool.

But Akiolu never said Lagos doesn't belong to Yoruba. He cannot
Oh, so you too saw their rebuttal? Especially the part where they claimed clearly that they were Aworis?
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 1:15am On Dec 08, 2017
Vivere:

How sad. sad Your response just proves what I was saying earlier. You are even blaming Joe Igbokwe, for not taking Oba Akiolu to task over his remarks about the lagoon, when over 18 of your Eze Ndigbo in Lagos were in attendance on that day, and even clapped for the Oba?? shocked Why didn't those people say anything? Now you are blaming an Igbokwe who was not even at the location, where it all happened. Okay, we have heard.

I take it you have nothing more to say.
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Nobody: 7:46am On Dec 08, 2017
macof:
I am not talking about Bembe na... Bembe's family have already come out to disgrace the old fool.

But Akiolu never said Lagos doesn't belong to Yoruba. He cannot
Any evidence for your claim?
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by Olu317(m): 12:03pm On Dec 09, 2017
jomonic:


I think you have to eschew sentiment and face reality. I am looking at a Nigeria of equal opportunities. The way Canada or USA will admit you and you become a part of them. This is the vision of our founding fathers. I believe that it is the ideal that fired the passion behind the coalition that shed fratricidal blood for the sake of one indivisible Nigeria. If Nigeria thrives on this ideal we will be as great as the world super powers.
Splendid submission but it won't be possible because of the founding fathers weren't honest with one another. This is because, before any different groups with pride can decide to forge a unified union, the real power brokers, who truly control the people are well informed. Also, religion, tribes and ancient form of governance were different, these are supposed to considered. Until the real problems, which has to do with allowing self expression and equal opportunity are placed before people so as all to see reason to make the country great like every other developed countries without saboteurs. Assumption of being great will always be theoretical in Nigeria .
Re: Ownership Of Lagos: Between Distortion And Obvious Facts. by coolebux(m): 10:53am On Dec 28, 2017
They have very short memories

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