1. For many years, Deeper Life Bible Church (DLBC) has been feeding the poor for free especially during her Retreats - Bad for news.

2. Deeper Life builds a #3 Billion Naira Church facility to cater for her teeming multitudes-(The Church comes under attack for not giving the money to the poor by people who probably have never cared for others) Good for news!

3. Redeemed Christian Church of God develops a forest into a sprawling city (Redemption Camp) at no cost to the government helping to decongest Lagos-(No one is interested) - Bad for news

4. Christ Embassy inspires and sponsors hundreds of youths talented in the music ministry-Bad for news.

5. Churches establish universities ensuring that many otherwise jobless academics are gainfully employed - Bad for news. 6. Covenant, JABU, BIU and Landmark Universities are among the 10 cheapest private universities - Bad for news.

7. David Oyedepo Foundation now gives about N500 million annually in her 24 year old scholarship scheme to indigent students-Bad for the news.

8. Covenant University in less than 20 years ranks amongst the top universities in Africa ahead of many much older Nigerian Universities-Bad for news.

9. Pastor Adeboye and wife build rehabilitation centre in Epe for youths overtaken by drug addiction - Bad for news. 10. Adeboye and Oyedepo clock 50 and 35 years in marriage respectively-Bad for the news.

11. Pastor Chris gets divorced - news goes viral.

12. Sinach, Eben, Frank Edwards, Buchi, Samsung, Joe Praize all inspired by Pastor Chris-Bad for the news.

13. Daystar equips 20,000 kids as they return to school-Bad for the news.

14. Bishop Oyedepo subsidises transport fare in hometown to #20-#50 per trip-Bad for the news. 15. RCCG builds 80km road connecting Ikorodu with Redemption Camp/Lagos-Ibadan Expressway-Bad for the news.

16. Oyedepo builds #100 million Townhall in Omu Aran-Bad for the news.

17. Ayo Oritsejafor gives cars, money, Keke, sewing machines, grinding machines to the poor-Bad for the news.

18. Oritsejafor receives jet gift-(He must sell and give the poor)-News goes viral.

19. Winner's Chapel in FACT does NOT own 4 jets-(This is not good for them)-Bad for the news.

20. Pastor Adeboye flies to Zambia, Botswana, CAR, Rwanda in private jet-(He should have flown Nigeria Airways (sic)-News goes viral.

21. Winners Chapel 's gift consignment largest ever received by Rwandan Government - Bad for news.

22. Winners Chapel Accesses Koma Hills with provisions - plants school, church- Bad for news.

23. Olukoya, MFM provides cars and cash for 1st class graduates in Unilag yearly - Bad for the news.

24. Prisoners testify of how Church missionaries led them to Christ, became better citizens-Bad for news.

25. Winners Chapel gives provisions, food, cash to Osun workers after being owed 8 months salary by State Government - Bad for news.

26. Christ Embassy feeds thousands of children daily in her Inner City Mission Scheme (who cares)-Bad for news.

27. Red Cross commends Oyedepo for largest consignment of welfare aid asides government since Nigerian Civil war (who cares)-Bad for news.

28. Landmark University operates largest scholarship scheme among Nigerian private universities--Bad for news.

29. Bishop Oyedepo sits in Church owned jet (Perhaps he should be standing)-News goes viral.

30. MFM invests heavily in football-(who cares)-Bad for news.

31. Living Faith Church under investigation in UK - News goes viral.

32. Living Faith Church commended for financial integrity by UK authorities after probe, named as a good example for other NGOs-Bad for news.

33. Nigerian Churches attract largest number of tourists to Nigeria - Bad for news.

34. Nigerian Churches infrastructural development among highest in Nigeria-(who cares ) -Bad for the news.

35. Nigerian Churches now the foremost player in education at all levels in Nigeria-Bad for news.

36. Covenant University generates her own electricity - Bad for news.

37. Faith Oyedepo 'paralysed'-News goes viral.

38. Faith Oyedepo totally healed -Bad for news.

39. Christ Embassy provides succour for tens of thousands in Haiti - Bad for news.

40. Sierra Leonean President thanks Winners Chapel for relief package to citizens - (who cares) - bad for news.

41. Oyedepo jets out to Sierra Leone, Liberia and Ghana (he should have driven a car or ridden a donkey like Jesus)-News goes viral.

42. Deeper Life spends #1.2 Billion on overhead bridge to stem traffic (who cares)-Bad for news. The Church of Christ will never be able to please the Gates of Hell. It's time to shake off the distraction -

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Don't mind the Antichurch weilers

The little charity that the churches do from time to time is not more than the CSR that purely for-profit corporations like Shell also do.

Would you accept the idea that it's wrong to criticize Shell when they pollute the Niger Delta because they use some of their profits for CSR?

Most of the corrupt ex-politicians that we often criticize also spend some of their money on charity. Does this make them any less corrupt?

Even armed robbers also give to the needy. So what's the big deal?

Seun:
The little charity that the churches do from time to time is not more than the CSR that purely for-profit corporations like Shell also do.

Would you accept the idea that it's wrong to criticize Shell when they pollute the Niger Delta because they use some of their profits for CSR?

Most of the corrupt politicians that we often criticize also spend some of their money on charity. Does this make them any less corrupt?

Mr Seun, I knew your aversion to Christianity will force you to respond to this thread in the negative. The question is not whether the charity done by churches is corporate social responsibility or not. But rather, why those "little" charity as you put it are never worthy of mention by the same public/media that vilify the church at every little chance they get? Why do they make it seem like the church never gives back to the society? Why do people pour out their frustrations on the church and on pastors, when in fact, their elected officials are feeding fat on their future without caution? Oga Seun, you'd do well by answering these questions first before you carry on with your sermon against the church.

The devil is devising ways of reducing the influence of the church, but God pass them.

DangotePikin:
The devil is devising ways of reducing the influence of the church, but God pass them.

It is true that any reduction in tithe payment will reduce the power of Nigerian churches. This suggests that the power of Nigerian churches comes, not from the working of any Holy Spirit, but from their ability to extract loads of cash from their members every month. Money is necessary and sufficient to make a Nigerian church successful. Everything else is just branding.

The discussion is not just about what churches do with the tithes.The main koko of the argument is "are Christian supposed to pay tithes" where in the bible did Christians pay or where asked to pay tithes? Did the apostles teach or practise tithing in the early church? what is the rationale behind tithing in churches today?

Seun:

It is true that any reduction in tithe payment will reduce the power of Nigerian churches. This suggests that the power of Nigerian churches comes, not from the working of any Holy Spirit, but from their ability to extract loads of cash from their members every month. Money is necessary and sufficient to make a Nigerian church successful. Everything else is just branding.

Like the Bible says " money answereth all things" so it goes without say that money is an integral tool to spread the gospel. It's just a means to an end