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I lost the key to my 2005 Avalon limited (has a has a press to start ignition) some days ago. I got someone to get a blank key and program it (yet to be done with this though).
However, on asking about cutting the metal key that comes with the remote key which is usually used to open the car door when the battery of the remote key runs down, he told me he' d have to take out the car door to do this.
When I asked about using the VIN of the car to cut the key without necessarily taking out the car door, I was told it s only done abroad and can't be done in Nigeria.
Please, can you guys clarify this issue for me before someone does more harm than good to my car.

Thanks for the responses

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Still hoping for a reply please

jennann:
Still hoping for a reply please

To my own understanding, it is not as easy as u think. If someone can just make out a key from VIN number then all a car thief needs to do is walk to ur car and copy the VIN number on the windshield, make a key and the next time u park ur car u might not meet it there by the time u get back.

True keys can be requested with vin numbers from dealers who then get a coded key from manufacturers. But u will need to provide id and enough proof that u are actually the owner of the car. For a 2005 car that is already 12 yrs old it would be even more difficult as the car might have already passed through 2-4 different owners. And from Nigeria here it is almost impossible. It would be much easier if the car was bought brand new from dealership here.

For a Toyota with a transponder key you do not need the vin to programme any key to the car. In your case all that needs to be done is to get blank key with a transponder chip which synchronises with the immobiliser of your car. This key needs to be cut to size and shape as master key inorder for it to fit perfectly well into your ignition cylinder. In the above case of yours. I think the person doing that job is having a problem with the programming of the car. He doesn't need to take out the car door. Did you misplace all keys?

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mayor2013:
For a Toyota with a transponder key you do not need the vin to programme any key to the car. In your case all that needs to be done is to get blank key with a transponder chip which synchronises with the immobiliser of your car. This key needs to be cut to size and shape as master key inorder for it to fit perfectly well into your ignition cylinder. In the above case of yours. I think the person doing that job is having a problem with the programming of the car. He doesn't need to take out the car door. Did you misplace all keys?

For safety reasons and how sensitive this is I might not be able to divulge all that needs to be done on this platform. You can reach me on my signature so as to take you through on what needs to be done

Op's car is push to start and no need to put any key in the ignition. However where he's having problem is cutting the metal key that can be used to open the doors manually when the battery in the key fob runs out. Since he already lost the master key, I think taking out the locks of the door becomes necessary to cut the key.

greenhulk:


Op's car is push to start and no need to put any key in the ignition. However where he's having problem is cutting the metal key that can be used to open the doors manually when the battery in the key fob runs out. Since he already lost the master key, I think taking out the locks of the door becomes necessary to cut the key.

Oh thanks for the correction. My bad. It's a push to start

yes its done here but very rear as such cutters are expensive and the average Nigerian would not pay for such service. Its called cut by code. Such code can be found using the VIN or found printed on some parts of the vehicle. Once its inputted into the cutting machine it will cut out the exact key for the car.Mechanical only

yes its done here but very rear as such cutters are expensive and the average Nigerian would not pay for such service. Its called cut by code. Such code can be found using the VIN or found printed on some parts of the vehicle. Once its inputted into the cutting machine it will cut out the exact key for the car.Mechanical only

baconline:
yes its done here but very rear as such cutters are expensive and the average Nigerian would not pay for such service. Its called cut by code. Such code can be found using the VIN or found printed on some parts of the vehicle. Once its inputted into the cutting machine it will cut out the exact key for the car.Mechanical only

Do you know the subscription fee to that. Means that device has to have all info(softwares) regarding antitheft system. So therefore manufacturer of the device need get a licence from each an every car manufacturers. In this part of the world we see this things as a peanut while heavy fees are to be paid for this. It's quite a sad one

Thank you all for the replies. The key was cut by taking out just the keyhole on the door. I just wanted to be sure before going through that route to cut the key. Thanks again.
However, I have another problem. I asked that two keys be gotten and programmed so I can have a spare. However, after the programming, just one of the key fobs works well. The car does not open automatically when I come close to the car with the second key neither does the car start unless I bring the it close to almost touch the start button. The car does not also close automatically when I press the black sensor button on the door. Thus second key only works when I press the buttons on the it.
On asking the guy who did the work for me, he told me that s the way it usually is as only one of the two keys will work fully while the second key works as I just said as above.
I think the guy s lying though and just wants to get me off his Ass. Can someone let me know if what he said is true or not? Thanks again

jennann:
Thank you all for the replies. The key was cut by taking out just the keyhole on the door. I just wanted to be sure before going through that route to cut the key. Thanks again.
However, I have another problem. I asked that two keys be gotten and programmed so I can have a spare. However, after the programming, just one of the key fobs works well. The car does not open automatically when I come close to the car with the second key neither does the car start unless I bring the it close to almost touch the start button. The car does not also close automatically when I press the black sensor button on the door. Thus second key only works when I press the buttons on the it.
On asking the guy who did the work for me, he told me that s the way it usually is as only one of the two keys will work fully while the second key works as I just said as above.
I think the guy s lying though and just wants to get me off his Ass. Can someone let me know if what he said is true or not? Thanks again

Check battery of the late responding remote

Battery has been replaced with a new one and problem still persists

Weak signals from that second prox remote no doubt, and since you have a new battery in (hoping it's a good one) it just could be that the prox remote is not entirely compatible with your car. That prox remotes look alike does not mean they're interchangeable.

jennann:
Battery has been replaced with a new one and problem still persists

Was the right battery used. If you use cheap batteries you would have a problem like this with the remote fob

I bought the battery from where I usually get it. Will change it again elsewhere and if the problem persists, may as well ask that the 'faulty' remote be replaced afterall, I paid quite some amount of money for the replacement and can't afford to have one of them not working fully.
Thanks for the suggestions and advices so far.

jennann:
Thank you all for the replies. The key was cut by taking out just the keyhole on the door. I just wanted to be sure before going through that route to cut the key. Thanks again.
However, I have another problem. I asked that two keys be gotten and programmed so I can have a spare. However, after the programming, just one of the key fobs works well. The car does not open automatically when I come close to the car with the second key neither does the car start unless I bring the it close to almost touch the start button. The car does not also close automatically when I press the black sensor button on the door. Thus second key only works when I press the buttons on the it.
On asking the guy who did the work for me, he told me that s the way it usually is as only one of the two keys will work fully while the second key works as I just said as above.
I think the guy s lying though and just wants to get me off his Ass. Can someone let me know if what he said is true or not? Thanks again

Big lie. The second key is bad. The circuit board is bad. Have it returned back. The car can receive of to 4 fobs and they will all behave the same way

Ok. Thanks guys for making this clearer to me.
Some people will want to be paid without doing their jobs properly. It s a pity. And he was seriously insisting that' s the way it works. Just had to come on here to ask since I was not sure as I haven't had a first hand experience on this.
I can now insist he changes the faulty key

Tell him to reprogramme just only that second prox remote. It will become clear whether it's good or bad. Reprogramming deletes the earlier two values programmed.

jennann:
Ok. Thanks guys for making this clearer to me.
Some people will want to be paid without doing their jobs properly. It s a pity. And he was seriously insisting that' s the way it works. Just had to come on here to ask since I was not sure as I haven't had a first hand experience on this.
I can now insist he changes the faulty key

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Bros it's not too much to read understand what Op is saying before commenting g

mayor2013:
For a Toyota with a transponder key you do not need the vin to programme any key to the car. In your case all that needs to be done is to get blank key with a transponder chip which synchronises with the immobiliser of your car. This key needs to be cut to size and shape as master key inorder for it to fit perfectly well into your ignition cylinder. In the above case of yours. I think the person doing that job is having a problem with the programming of the car. He doesn't need to take out the car door. Did you misplace all keys?

For safety reasons and how sensitive this is I might not be able to divulge all that needs to be done on this platform. You can reach me on my signature so as to take you through on what needs to be done