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| Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 6:24pm On Apr 03, 2010 |
Civilians are civilians and PRIVATE business heads. we should stop blaming the nigerian government 100% for the lack of jobs. I suppose they failed to provide the means for businesses to prosper in some states like roads and electricity, but against, in a capitalist economy the government isn't responsible for creating jobs. it can create various civil service jobs, which it has, but outside of working for the government it's not supposed to create industry. The next nigerian that complains about the government creating jobs should ask himself what jobs has he created for nigerians, because that is his sole responsibility. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Kobojunkie: 6:29pm On Apr 03, 2010 |
Goverment is NOT responsible for creating Jobs HOWEVER Government is responsible for fostering an environment that creates jobs in a society. If you have been following current situation in America you would see that the Government is NOT pushing to itself create the jobs but ENCOURAGE situations that help businesses create jobs. Since the Nigerian government does not work hard at creating this environment for businesses, investors continue to go elsewhere and jobs do the same. This in turn means that the Government is to blame for the 1000's if not millions of lost opportunties to create jobs. 1 Like |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by naijamini(m): 6:41pm On Apr 03, 2010 |
Government is not responsible for creating jobs per se, it should be the joint effort of the private and public sector, but, Government is not supposed to collect the proceeds from the nation's major resources and funnel it through an inscrutable system where it disappears into oblivion. When a government does that it not only prevents the private sector from doing its part, but also assumes the entire responsibility as well. If you collect the resources, you take responsibility for the job. Simple. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Sunofgod(m): 7:17pm On Apr 03, 2010 |
Poster (Dumb and Dumber)) The Government has a responsibility to reduce unemployment and manage the economy. Its not just about stealing for you and your family. The Government is responsible for managing the economy - High unemployment is a sign of failed government policies. When they fail to do this civil unrest always follows and people call for change. The Government is meant to be elected by civilians to serve the public's interest - Not just steal for themselves. They are meant to provide an environment which encourages foreign investment - they wont even give us basic infrastructure. In 2010 we dont have steady electricity. Whilst other countries are exploring space for mineral resources. Any politician that doesn't feel he has a duty to the public should not be there. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Beaf: 9:34pm On Apr 03, 2010 |
Civilians are Why so many dimwitted articles from you? Firstly, how many non civilians can you name in the current govt or don't you know what "civilian" means? This is the politics section, not some area where half or zero knowledge is allowed. It is basic political knowledge that govts the World over create job opportunities. Please don't waste peoples time by posting anymore braindead topics (you're beginning to sound like Turai). |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 1:37am On Apr 05, 2010 |
Goverment is NOT responsible for creating Jobs HOWEVER Government is responsible for fostering an environment that creates jobs in a society. If you have been following current situation in America you would see that the Government is NOT pushing to itself create the jobs but ENCOURAGE situations that help businesses create jobs. how are investors going elsewhere when nigeria recieves the vast majority of FDI that heads into africa? (far more the south africa even) nigerians want to speak about the nigerian government and not know what they're talking about just so they can blame someone distant about the countries failures creating jobs in the PRIVATE SECTOR'S responsibility. Before you start sasking about what jobs the government has created ask yourself how many jobs YOU have created cause that's YOUR responsbility. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by becomrich6: 1:44am On Apr 05, 2010 |
Government should create job. In canada, what the government does is to help small business by given them load and seminal on starting business. The problem we have is that people in Nigeria government have never lived abroad. Take for example Nuhu Ribadu who just left nigeria two month ago. You cant call nuru ribadu nigerian abroad. Nuhu does not know jack about abroad. To have ideas na those of us, who don live with oyigbo man for many years know is life and ways. those na the people you need to run your lifes. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 1:57am On Apr 05, 2010 |
All of our founding fathers went to school abroad, anyways, can you give me evidence that the nigerian government doesn't offer loans to small businesses? because my father is responsible for allocating small business loans to deserving individuals with small businesses in my local government, and this was an initiative of the Governors, other states, if not all states, do the same so yeah. can you produce evidence to your claim, satelite pictures maybe? |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Nobody: 2:29am On Apr 05, 2010 |
They are, but not 100%. In Nigeria it is a different thing altogether, because the government knowing fully well that they can't do the little which they are supposed to do,have refused those that are ready and they have also not provided the enabling conditions to allow for investors to come in. For instance they have refused to make our refineries to function most especially the linear Alkyl Benzene Plant in Kaduna which revenue generated a day is able to feed the whole of the population in kaduna. In my own opinion the Government must produce at least 70% and bet me the rest will not be a problem. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 3:19am On Apr 05, 2010 |
any attempt by the government to create jobs is alturism unless they can show how it effect national defense on other institutions the fed is responsible for. but the questions is what jobs have YOU created. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Nobody: 3:36am On Apr 05, 2010 |
u really r becoming ridiculous. Pro Nigerian government? |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by paddylo1(m): 4:14am On Apr 05, 2010 |
u really r becoming ridiculous. Pro Nigerian government? [b]No he is actually stating the truth, not pro anybody, American Govt doesnt create jobs, Steve Jobs in AAPL creates jobs, Google,Boeing, Intel, GE, JPMorgan, and so on create jobs From The big to the lil private sector guy, he is the one that creates jobs our problem in Nigeria is we dont understand how capitalism works. and our leaders have even fewer understanding What exactly do we have to offer the world? Oil?, well no country has grown rich off selling some mineral accidentaly found in the ground The Fastest growing economy in the middle east is Israel, not Saudi-Arabia The point is dont come here moaning about what the Nigerian Govt has not done with a measly $30billion a yr in oil Revenue for 150million ppl when Apple alone has $26 billion dollars in cash, Google has $24 billion and so on. . . . The Nigerian private sector has to be in the forefront, like UBA owning banks in uganda or Dangote owning cement companies in Zambia, Thats how we build Nigerian based companies that can compete first in Africa, then worldwide thats how u get your ppl wealthy, [/b] |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by trueword: 4:30am On Apr 05, 2010 |
paddy_lo: Governments creates job directly and indirectly. Aren't the direct one called "government jobs" i.e. a government road and bridge maintenance agency that hires civil engineers etc to do work for state in infrastructure projects. Police jobs, etc. So I don't see where govt. Doesnt create jobs. Government also creates jobs indirectly by putting in place policies and either reducing taxes or spending to stimulate economy to help certain industries grow. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Nobody: 4:45am On Apr 05, 2010 |
paddy_lo: Coming from the same paddy lo who was a pro Yaradua? And always bashing those who point out things they see wrong in our country? And I'm suppose to believe you. Are you for real? Government not only create jobs, they also create platforms for citizens to create jobs. This is blind patriotism at it's worst. What is wrong with you people? Situation is Nigeria is critical. According to Nigerian constitution if you nut cases have bothered to read it, government is also responsible for making sure each citizens has reasonable amount of pleasure in Nigeria we are not even demanding that yet. Also according to our constitution, we should get free education, healthcare for the needy and disabled and seniors, prevent child exploit at all cost (One idiot just married a 13yrs old kid). Go read the constitution you blind idiots. Idiots idiot idiots. Are you fools getting paid or what?? You guys are a bunch of illiterates. Idiots idiots idiots!!! |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Beaf: 4:46am On Apr 05, 2010 |
paddy_lo: How will the private sector get to the forefront without an enabling environment that equates to the creation of job opportunities? With the provision of Electricity, potable water, policy direction, anti-corruption, communications, ease of business startup, beaurocracy, transportation, laws etc. There is actually a lot the govt needs to do. The comparison of the capitalist systems in the US and Nigeria's is very flawed for the simple reason, that the US practices true federalism while Nigeria masquerades Unitarism as federalism. Its like comparing oil and water, in Nigeria everything flows from Abuja to the states; in the US, nothing flows from Washington to the states. For that reason Nigerian private sector initiatives must be 100% in tune with Abuja or risk being scuttled or waste time steering up dust and achieving nothing; this makes it impossible for high risk areas like high tech and research to survive in Nigeria; whereas there are hugely initiatives like Lockheed Martins and Silicon Valley in the US. These things don't come by miracle. Worldwide, the creation of job opportunities and an enabling environment are measures of a govts effectiveness and a nations economic prowess. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 4:52am On Apr 05, 2010 |
man, im sick of this 'enabling environment' talk who provides electricity in the US? the US government? NO Private energy companies who provides water in the US? The US government? NO Private water companies EVERYTHING the government of ANY country tries to run that's naturally a private enterprise fails. even schools, is public schools in ANY country to private schools accross the street, There's no comparison the government is here for your security and to maintain order, everything else is up to YOU. Nigeria has no energy cause nigerians don't start electrical companies. and if they do they start it in Belgium mind you there's no where with more demand for energy then Nigeria, then when the energy is there, nigerians don't pay tax and don't pay bills. I've never heard of a nigerian in my village paying electricity bill. Nigerians don't understand nations and capitalism. Your government isn't there to save your life, it's there to make sure you're alive, which it's doing, poorly, but your alive so cool, the rest is up to you. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 4:58am On Apr 05, 2010 |
and i dont know what all this corrupt talk is US government officials steal enough from the US government to buy nigeria, quit acting like your country is so special. The corruption in the military industrial complex that has made dick cheney flithy rich for decades would make abacha weep. the difference is americans aren't sitting around waiting for the government to provide them with jobs clothes food water electricity industry MOVIE STUDIOS (wtf? i've actually heard nigerians complaining that the government hasn't given the movie industry the facilities to shoot studio movies) wives and children the Nigerian government doesn't make ANY money really. Ok some oil that they accidentally found in the ground that they have to buy back from the west, but nigerians don't pay taxes on naything but expect the world froma government that's supposed to provide movies studios and water for 150 million complaining unproductive people |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by trueword: 5:01am On Apr 05, 2010 |
Ikengawo: If you were well informed you would know that many states have a government agency that supplies water and does things like garbage, etc. Its govt that builds water pipes to to transport water from one part of state to other. The best healthcare in U.S. is government run. No senior citizen in U.S. would trade their Medicare (government run healthcare) for private company who are raising rates every day. The difference between private and public school is funding. Private schools tend to have richer people while public school doesn't which means private schools alumni remit large sums of money back. By the way not all private schools are better than public schools. Please properly educate yourself before coming here to spew anything you like. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Beaf: 5:04am On Apr 05, 2010 |
Ikengawo: [size=14pt]The US practices federalism, Nigeria does not. If you want to compare both, Nigeria will first have to practice federalism. Call for a national conference or shutup.[/size]  Why not compare Nigeria and China? Ode. Stop peppering us with your ignorance. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 5:05am On Apr 05, 2010 |
LMAO that's why it's called the FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA you crippled sperm LOL |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Beaf: 5:06am On Apr 05, 2010 |
Ikengawo: You really are genuinely daft, ain't you?  Its for the same reason you call thieves "leaders". |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by naijaking1: 5:12am On Apr 05, 2010 |
@poster Enabling environment is the key word. Government is indirectly responsible for creating jobs. The 3 tires of government can creat jobs indirectly by making policies that enable companies to be created, sustained, and expanded. If a company expands without adequate political connection in Nigeria, I guess you know what happens to them. Many policy makers in Nigeria today: from the CBN governor to the managing directors of most governmnent companies don't even seem to understand "job creation" Quiz: who is the largest employer of labor in the US? Ans: The federal goverment  |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 5:13am On Apr 05, 2010 |
and politicians in america don't steal money? really homie? really? LOL the nigerian system is WAY more federated then the US system, you've got to be kidding me. Politics in ALL countries is corrupt. If the nigerian government is 'stealing' oil money then so what? That oil didn't belong to you anyways, it came from the ground. it's as much your property as a rock or blade of grass. if they want to steal it then cool, oil won't make us rich, it's made nobody rich except ppl that 'steal'. Nigerians don't pay taxes. If you paided taxes and the government was taking the money then cool, they are 'theives' but if some oil is flowing out of the ground that YOU didn't create and YOU didn't pump and YOU didn't discover and the government that pumped and discovered it wants to fatten its pockets the by all means who cares? you're only upset that you and other nigerians aren't doing your role as citizens in being PRODUCTIVE. we don't start industies, we import second hand goods and dupe each other. We don't start electrical plants and become billionaires we complain that we dont have electricity and buy generators from the US. we dont even MAKE the generators we're all starving for. The demand is there but the productivity isn't. We're simply NOT PRODUCTIVE. this isn't the governments fault. The government isn't productive either, but of course it isn't it's composed by nigerians. again, the government doesn't create jobs. PEOPLE do, and YOU haven't so don't tell me what the government has done and hasn't done. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 5:19am On Apr 05, 2010 |
@poster i work for the US government lol. You know americans are actually mad that the US government has too many employees? a government that wastes its time trying to pay everyone bills won't get anything done. lets look that what creates an 'enabling environment' anywhere in the world and who is responsible for doing it. electricity- private sector communications- private sector transport-public/private sector financial institutions- private sector skilled and unskilled labor- private sector the only thing the govenrment here in the US does is build roads, not to create jobs or help the economy, but to keep the country connect in case of external military attack. That is the EXACT reason for the federal interstate system as quoted by eisenhower. the nigerian private secotr is doing well but ppl are blaming its faults on the government way too much. No capitalist country provides anything for a populace that doesn't pay taxes. Looksat Lagos. Why is Lagos the best part of nigeria. Oil? no! the people pay taxes which gives the state gov the money to function and the pople are productive. Its own richer then all the oil states cause the oil states aren't productive. money is just paper, PRODUICTION is what creates wealth and most nigerians businesses don't produce, they buy and sell stuff someone else produced |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 5:22am On Apr 05, 2010 |
We tried having the gove run sanitation, it failed, as government run sanitations tends to do world wide we tried having them run electricity, it failed we tried having them run EVERYTHING at one point and it failed. now we're sitting around waiting for them to try again. you know who provided clean drinking water to nigeria? COCA COLA. you know how? They got a bunch of dirty water, boiled it, and put it in a 2 cent plastic bottle! It's not that complicated people. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Beaf: 5:23am On Apr 05, 2010 |
^ [size=14pt]You seem to be hawking for a job with the cabal, talking braindead BS.[/size]  Fool. Of course govt people should sit back, simply sipping wine and chopping oil money; while their slaves, the citizens of Nigeria break their backs on their behalf. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 5:30am On Apr 05, 2010 |
What cabal?! that "cabal" is another one of those stupid juju things the nigerian populace has convinced itsself has ANY relevence what so ever. Some fulani woman doesn't want you to see her dying husband and now the country thinks she's 'running nigeria behind the scenes'. Mind you everything she and her friends wanted done didn't happen and the bitch is a victim of circumstance. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by JosBoy4Lif(m): 5:52am On Apr 05, 2010 |
Is there an employment insurance in Nigeria? Just asking? What about a government run Human Resource Development connecting employers and employees? |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 5:58am On Apr 05, 2010 |
Yes there is employment insurance in nigeria, my friends dad has it. and yes there is a government run Human Resource Development connecting employers and employees, there's several infact and the Youth Services is one of them. Many nigerians find work through Youth Services, a government run program. So why did you ask those open ended question without knowing that answer in a ploy to prove me wrong when im not? Do you mean to tell me that most americans get their work insurance from the government and get their jobs from government agencies? because they don't, at all. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by naijaking1: 6:00am On Apr 05, 2010 |
@Ikengawo Good to know that you work for the government. You can't refute the fact that by number the US goverment is the nation's largest employer. No question. Enabling environment is like letting private companies run all those utilities you have mentioned: power, telephone, gas, light, etc. Speak about privatizing certain lucrative companies in Nigeria, and you would cause a riot just by talking about the idea. Yes, and once again, a government can creat jobs indirectly by letting and enabling private companies do the job, and not having the govt. clog up every aspect of our national life. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by Ikengawo: 6:13am On Apr 05, 2010 |
the nigerian government DOES do that though, nigerians just dont want to hear it cause they want to blame something for their 'condition'. the US government hires ppl to conduct governance. because the US has a huge government, which americans aren't happy about, yes, they do hire the most ppl, but i can bet you good money that the nigerian government is the largest employer in nigeria too. its safe to say for any country. Nigerians can create their own enabling government or they can wait till the nicest president heaven has ever sent to come down and do it for them while they continue to not pay taxes. |
| Re: Governments Aren't Responsible For Creating Jobs by princekevo(m): 6:14am On Apr 05, 2010 |
This poster sounds as one of the sons of these Nigerian criminals(politicians) being sponsored to study in the US with the stolen money from the public. He suddenly discovered that in his confort zone(US) the private sectors create job, manage electricity and water, instead of taking time to research on why this system has become so strong and effective. He is asking us to stop blaming the government(which his father might be one) on the deteriorating situation in Nigeria. When Obama said he would create more Jobs to reduced the unemployment rate in the US did you bother to ask how was gonna do that. When he took credit for reducing the unemployment rate in his first year, does it mean he directly built industries and businesses that got people employed or the employment was created only within government institution. Please Kid stop making yourself look foolish, as we might think you are wasting stolen public fund in the name studying. If it is not the responsibility of the government to directly and indirectly create jobs, someone like Obama and other politicians wont use it as tool for campaign and the government will not take the credits for employment created by any private of foreign firms . Unless u are telling us that is not the responsibility of the government to create job, but can take credit for Job created. |
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