You probably read that title, and muttered the answer to yourself. Your answer. The one you’re sure of.

Of course. Are you crazy? I hope so. Not a chance.

Let’s start with a few assumptions:

1. Homosexuality is a sin. Even if you think it’s not, please read on. It’s not that this isn’t an important topic. It is. But as you’ll see, what I’m saying doesn’t depend on that part of the argument.

2. The gay people I’m talking about are not celibate.

3. The gay people I’m talking about are not remorseful about their lifestyle.

Ok. That’s our starting point. Our case study. Let’s call him Clarence. Clarence is gay. He is in a relationship with another man. He is a Christian.

But he can’t be a Christian! I hear some of you cry. Hold that thought.

Clarence goes to church. With his partner. He thinks Jesus loves him, and will accept him. Yes, he is gay. But that’s just the way it is. Maybe it’s in his genes.
He doesn’t feel like he decided to be gay. He didn’t ask to be that way. He just is.



Clarence sits in church next to Henrietta. Henrietta is obese. She went through years of self-loathing, but then decided that liking herself is more important than trying to lose a battle which twenty years of diets have convinced her she will never win. Maybe it’s in her genes. But she’s sure Jesus loves her. She didn’t ask to be fat. She just is.

Next to Clarence and Henrietta sits Chidi. Chidi is an investment banker.
He grew up in an affluent area, went to private school, came out of a top university into a top job. He lives in a penthouse by the river. Drives a brand new BMW.
Never more than 2 years old. He is saving up money to have a really comfortable retirement. He tithes, but he’s really not thrilled about it. After all, 10% of his salary is so much more than it is for some other people. It’s not fair.
Why should he pay more? He’s sure Jesus would love him just as much if he only gave 6%. It’s not his fault he’s rich.

Across the aisle from Chidi sits Dare. Dare has been coming to church all his life. With his parents. He still does. It’s only natural. He still lives at home.
Even though he’s 37. That whole Living On Your Own thing just never appealed. Too much like hard work. So Dare works 10 hours a week.
Doesn’t really volunteer at church, even though he’s got plenty of time on his hands. That would get in the way of XBox play. Besides, it’s not legalistic, right? Jesus loves Dare as much as everybody else.
It’s not his fault he has a slow metabolism.

Here we have four people. Each of them sinners. Each of them convinced that their sin is ok. How would you respond to them?

It’s interesting that in Christianity today, a lot of Christians would feel comfortable with the label “sinner” for the homosexual, almost in a Victorian brimstone way. It’s not really so acceptable to call fat people “sinners”.
That would seem cruel. Even inhuman. The slothful person? I’m not sure a lot of people would see that as a sin in our Couch Potato age.
And, as for the rich person who doesn’t want to give up too much of his money? Well, curiously he’s the only one Jesus specifically addresses in the Gospels:

1. The young rich man who doesn’t want to give up his money to follow Jesus.

2. The rich man who stores his riches, but is struck down before he can enjoy them.

3. The issue of riding camels through eyes of needles.

But how many of us would see that man, not as a sinner, but actually as successful? Even as a role model? How many of us would enthusiastically celebrate his sin?

So, what conclusions can and should we draw?

I think one of the main conclusions is that, according to scripture, what happens to one of them, based on this one sin, is likely to happen to all of them. They are all in the same boat. They have each rationalised their own sin to themselves.
None of them is repentant. None of them is asking for forgiveness. All of them consider themselves to be Christians. All of them probably feel secure in their salvation.

In that light, our reaction to them should be similar. That is, how we treat an Obese Christian should really be the same as we treat a Gay Christian, or a Lazy Christian, or a Greedy Christian. Or any Christian who sins. That is, any Christian. Right?



So, has your answer to the question, “Do gay Christians go to heaven?” been at all affected? Has it changed? Perhaps you know someone who sins regularly and justifies it to him or herself.

Let me take that question one further:

Do any of us not justify our sins to ourselves?

Do any of us live with such purity, self-awareness and clarity of God’s mind that we can honestly say that we recognise every sin, taking each one captive in turn, never feeling justified in our own, habitual sinning?

How could you even know? What is the content of the plank in your own eye? Which of its contents do you ignore while pointing at and condemning others’ splinters?

It is at moments like these that I truly thank God that I am not the judge. And when I stand on that day, with my life as my witness, I will happily depend not on my behaviour, not on my efforts, but entirely on His grace for my redemption.


Who am I to judge?
Just a messenger.........message delivered

Is being gay "christ-like"?

Gay Christian?


Hear what u said urself does it make any sense to u?


Abi your brain is paining u

I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV) and I Corinthians.5 vs 9-13 (NIV).... Wehdone OP okay.... Who are you to judge abi? Well I get the message but we have no business judging the world at all... God will do that. But for anyome claiming to be a Christian and also engage in homosexuality, mehn... The Bible tells us in 1 Corinthians 5 vs 11-13 (NIV or any translation u choose) as I put above to judge and deal with immorality in the house of God.....

So..... Here's to you....

But if you are gay are you even a Christian?
There are many who are convinced but not converted to be converted is to obey God's word to obey God's command not just knowing his word but learning his ways.
If it's a mistake or a one time thing know that A Christian can make a mistake like we all do. Don't run from God run to him.

If we re to go by yhur assumption, Sodom and Gomorrah have a hope

Hmm. Another reason why religion is just about being politically correct.

I saw a mass held in the vatican and the women wore trousers and didn't use a scarf to cover their hair. No problems whatsover

The same religous sect in Nigeria forces you to wear a skirt (non-sexual btw) and a scarf to match.
Gay people, in countries with gay rights, go to churches without no problems. This is because the bible was written by people who wanted a tool to control the masses and was influenced by the politics of the time.
The bible you love so much supports slavery and slaughtering non virgins and killing unruly sons. If the bible was written in 2018 by a gay rights activist then there would be no problem of people with that sexual orientation and if it were written by a Nigerian, probably the OP, then it would have a verse calling for the public execution of gay people.


OP, The bible you know and love so much has verses in it that says one shouldn't judge. When the pope was asked the same question on his god's stand on gay people, "God's representative on Earth" said "...who i'm i to judge?"

I put the words of the Pope to you OP. Who are you to judge?

P.S. Before you froth at the mouth about the Roman Catholic Church, just know for a fact that they gave you the bible.

No one here is God.
We are all sinners and no sin is greater than the other be it homosexuality,adultery,masturbation etc.. It’s all Sin in the eyes of God.
We are all humans and by that virtue,have no moral right to tell who is qualified to make heaven or not.
Even most of your so called pastors and men of God may end up in hell so Leave people to live their Lives and let God the judge.

There are even speculations in some quarters that bros j was a gay..if not,what would he be doing with 11men?

xreal:
Is being gay "christ-like"?

did Jesus say act like him or believe in him?

is having sex "christ-like"

for Jesus on earth was a virgin right

@OP, Why asked a question when you knew quite well that you do not have the ball, or knowledge to provide answer to.

A true messenger is never afraid to deliver any message.

Though PMB was not happy with IBB spokesman but the guy held to his conviction that what he delivered was his boss' message, nothing personal.

Please go and learn boldness to be able to fulfil your ministry otherwise you have no business calling yourself a messenger!