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Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by Katsumoto: 3:38pm On Apr 27, 2010
Shock:

Why is everybody making an issue out of nothing?

If Jonathan borrows money and the money is put to good use vis a vis infrastructural development, then by all means, the dude should command our respect.

UK's net debt is over 160 trillion pounds, so WTF are talking about here?
And people should really stop screaming about external reserves, let's leave it as it should be, a "Reserve", once you start spending into your reserve, it signals your economy is experiencing a real downfall and nobody is willing to lend to you, and even that, is capable of causing real damage to the Naira.

The world bank is going to give him a loan at a rate that is cheaper than what he'd have paid if he tried to raise debt vis a vis bond issues.

I think you mean 160 Billion pounds.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by Nobody: 3:41pm On Apr 27, 2010
Youngichou:

u are absolutly right omo ibo
Well, if this true then nobilia is on to something when he made this statement.

nobilia:

Are we sure the appointment is not a form of kick back for the Billions of Naira he is pushing Nigeria to borrow?
I do not see the need to borrow with excessive interest where we have lots of fund that are not bearing enough interest, Excess Crude Account, Foreign Reserves.
For Pete sake, we just paid off a huge chunk during Obasanjo regime. Goldman has a reputation for ruining countries, I hope this is not it.

Besides, this Ayanga guy is relatively unknown to attain such position?

Just a thought people. Just a thought.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by Katsumoto: 3:48pm On Apr 27, 2010
Ibime:

I think the question should be. . . how are we sure the money is being put to good use. . . there is nothing wrong with borrowing (at the recommended 3% of GDP level). . . . . but we all know that the economic theories around borrowing assumes that the money is being put to good use.

We are yet to see what all the stimuluses that Yara'dua released last year has done for us in terms of infrastructure. . . they should release the outcome of that one first before borrowing again for more spending.

debosky:

How long will Aganga be there before the new government sweeps them all out? Just about a year it seems - I'd advise him to get after the problems on the ground - ensuring how much we are spending NOW is better allocated and monitored for proper use, than worrying about securing further loans that he might never get the chance to ensure proper usage.


When you put the two statements above together with a lack of long strategic vision from Nigeria's political thieves, it is obvious that any funds borrowed will simply be mis-managed and looted. If Aganga, attempts to borrow any money while he is in office for only one year, then it is clear that he accepted the post for selfish reasons or he is not as gifted as he is made out to be. The other question is, why would someone from such a solid background accept a post for one year? This is somewhat worrying.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by emmydee(m): 4:01pm On Apr 27, 2010
hmmmm, this is very interesting. there could be light at d end of the tunnel after all.
tahnk God for this
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by jorem(m): 4:30pm On Apr 27, 2010
We should appreciate God for this development and hope for positive result.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by jbloggs(m): 4:35pm On Apr 27, 2010
Well,don't forget he wont be the first to have World Class representation as a Nigerian.
She(Okonjo Iweala) has been there but has her influence brought anything to Nigeria?

Lets hope, the man will not be disappointed by the so called Cabals in Naija system.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by Tmoni(m): 4:56pm On Apr 27, 2010
I am no economist or corporate finance guru, i am just your average "brick and mortars" bloke but I honestly do not see the reason why we have to borrow money at this stage because:-

1. In the budget, the price of oil was assumed at a price significantly lower that what oil is trading now, so the so-called excess crude account should be enough to supplement the budget deficit

2. Apart from and even in the power sector, have they clearly (in express terms) identified what they want to use the money for. We keep on getting in the air arguments about (generation, distribution) but is there a clear scope of works e.g HV transmission line from PHC to Yenagoa

3. In order to cut the deficit, why cant the government look at efficiencies, making government work better, strealine systems, e.g stop the silly "around the world junketing" by government officials.Why did governors have to accompany Goodluck to washington, what was their input?. we have an embassy there so i presume these emabassies should be able to supervise and arrange a trip for the preseident, if they cnt do it then lets do a Libya and recall all our embassies

4. As metioned earlier, the new finance minister might only be in office for a year which is definately not enough time to implement projects with the borrowed sum

5. Our good ol friend (Mr corruption and nepotism) might finish the money before it gets to the actual capital projetcs

I stand to be corrected on all points raised above
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by GboyegaD(m): 6:08pm On Apr 27, 2010
In my opinion, the title he is giving is not the problem however, borrowing may not be too good for the economy at this time because we are still very corrupt. We have excess foreign reserves that we have not used to generate any income nor promote growth, surplus income from crude oil sales since the price at which it is selling now is higher than that of our budget, yet this is being shared by those in government so why borrow?

In as much as the big push theory of economic growth which suggest massive investments in infrastructure as a very viable tool of economic growth may be very ideal for our nation, however, the excess income in the past has always been looted by our leaders. This present set of leaders are not different from the past thus, if they are desirous of moving us forward as a nation, then they should look forward to empowering the youths and creating a sustainable economy by way of improved power, security etc.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by Nobody: 8:33pm On Apr 27, 2010
hmmm, i now see why aganga was made finance minister.d west wanted someone they knew
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by stede(m): 9:09pm On Apr 27, 2010
shocked grin cheesy wink,
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by stede(m): 9:29pm On Apr 27, 2010
we are stepping up
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by jimmysho(m): 9:42pm On Apr 27, 2010
so happy about the development
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by chelseabmw(m): 10:30pm On Apr 27, 2010
congrats to nigeria
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by brauneyes: 11:10pm On Apr 27, 2010
Today, Standard and Poors have downgraded Greece to JUNK status. Iceland was first, now Greece, who knows the next country in Europe that will default. Nigerians in diaspora should start looking towards home.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by 4Play(m): 11:13pm On Apr 27, 2010
brauneyes:

Today, Standard and Poors have downgraded Greece to JUNK status. Iceland was first, now Greece, who knows the next country in Europe that will default. Nigerians in diaspora should start looking towards home.

Firstly, Greece hasn't defaulted and if there is a wave of sovereign defaults across Europe, Nigeria is the last place you want to be.

PS: S&P rated Nigeria BB- (worse than Greece's BB+) and Fitch also rates us as BB- : http://www.alacrastore.com/research/fitch-ratings-Nigeria_Credit_Trends_A_Mixed_Bag-496188_report_frame
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by 4Play(m): 11:26pm On Apr 27, 2010
@Tmoni

Good points, but rather than taking money from our ''excess crude reserves'', we can simply spend less to run a surplus. The reserves is our buffer against a potential fall in oil prices, our key revenue source. If you don't accumulate reserves like we did in the 70s, you are making a one way bet that oil prices will always go up.

Also, the argument that the scope for borrowing is limited by Aganga's tenure in office fails to take into consideration the fact that Govts must at all times engage in long term planning and investment.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by Katsumoto: 11:46pm On Apr 27, 2010
4 Play:

@Tmoni

Good points, but rather than taking money from our ''excess crude reserves'', we can simply spend less to run a surplus. The reserves is our buffer against a potential fall in oil prices, our key revenue source. If you don't accumulate reserves like we did in the 70s, you are making a one way bet that oil prices will always go up.

Also, the argument that the scope for borrowing is limited by Aganga's tenure in office fails to take into consideration the fact that Govts must at all times engage in long term planning and investment.


Isn't long term planning and investment based on a clear vision and strategy. Can you give a few precedents in Nigeria where a successor followed a predecessor's long term goals?

For arguments sake, suppose that Aganga uses his clout to obtain favourable funding and interest rates, will the same clout ensure that Nigeria's corrupt political class utilise the funds for meaningful development projects rather than mis-management and stealing?

Nigeria has borrowed before, under Shagari and IBB governments; what do we have to show for that borrowing? Without the Paris club forgiving a huge chunk of our debt, Nigeria would still be heavily in debt.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by exago(m): 9:58am On Apr 28, 2010
do the nation proud. .
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by sirt1(m): 10:20am On Apr 28, 2010
Good for our country and Mr Segun Aganga, and can I say I'm proud to be a Nigerian? Until Mr Segun do us proud and use his new appointment to effect positive change in our economy.

On borrowing, there is nothing wrong ONLY if the money will be judiciously spent. We av borrowed in the past and nothing came out of it except the huge debt we found ourselves. I wouldn't criticize anybody now, but I pray it won't be business as usual.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by alldone(m): 11:21am On Apr 28, 2010
this is good for Nigeria. but this guy [US] have influence on us some how
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by Nobody: 11:38am On Apr 28, 2010
Nigerians are happy for Aganga, the minister of finance whom recently was elevated to the position of the world bank & the IMF Chairman, wow, The conspiracy the many don't understand continues, Incase you don't know those are the folks that control "AMERICA" & EVERYTHING in it, from the presidency elect to banks on wa, ll street, and they are setting in slowly to control the finance of our country Nigeria. Or is it not possible to bolster our power sector without having our citizen in your board? Aganga is part of the party and can never ever go against their will. When I told my friends that debt written off was a game plan, they're in they will have every dime they wrote off, even more.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by Nobody: 11:51am On Apr 28, 2010
Nigerians, please let us look at the debt write off during Obasanjo regime. It's pre-planned. Those guys wants to have their money back in disguise and even more. Trust me, there is a conspiracy going on, they lend money to African nations and then bribe their presidents no to pay back when due so as to accumulate massive profits. They don't worry about the debt at all, and expects the client to pay from its foreign reserve. That is one of the strategies to implementing a government of the new world order.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by brauneyes: 12:43pm On Apr 28, 2010
4 Play:

Firstly, Greece hasn't defaulted and if there is a wave of sovereign defaults across Europe, Nigeria is the last place you want to be.

PS: S&P rated Nigeria BB- (worse than Greece's BB+) and Fitch also rates us as BB- : http://www.alacrastore.com/research/fitch-ratings-Nigeria_Credit_Trends_A_Mixed_Bag-496188_report_frame

@4 play, what do you mean that Greece hasn't defaulted, what caused S & P to downgrade it to JUNK status yesterday, i mean yesterday.
Maybe u should read this article.
http://www.cfdtrading.com/2010/04/28/asiapacific-shares-head-south-as-sp-downgrades-greece-and-portugal/
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by ifyegede(m): 1:51pm On Apr 28, 2010
great achievement.lets see it been translated into better economic policies.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by Emmacarnegie(m): 2:56pm On Apr 28, 2010
BRAVO DATS WHY I CONTINUE 2 SAY DAT UNCLE JOE & HIS TEAM ARE EFFICIENT
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by kevd2: 4:30pm On Apr 28, 2010
Nigerians should wake up and stop celebrating CHEAP Non existent victories.Please why are we so naive and easily fooled.Just because someone is given a Titular position in the World Bank is not a cause to celebrate.Can Someone Tell me what we have won, WE HAVE NOT WON ANYTHING.

NIGERIANS HAVE SHOWN THAT THEY HAVE NOT LEARN T ANYTHING AFTER IBB SOLD your COLLECTIVE FUTURE TO THE US UNDER THE GUISE OF IMF LOANS.- TRUTH BE TOLD  ALL THESE GLOBAL FINANCIAL ORGANIZATIONS WORLD BANK, IMF ARE JUST SCHEMES SET UP BY THE WEST TO ENSLAVE DEVELOPING COUNTRIES WITH RESOURCES-THATS THE GOSPEL TRUTH.

IBB THAT WE WORSIP,WAS JUST A STOOGE FOR THE US,THEY FUNDED HIS COUP, SUPPORTED HIS REEGAN LIKE TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS AND THAT IS WHY IBB EASILY TOOK THEIR LOANS AND WAS NOT EVEN CRITICIZED BY THE US DESPITE ALL THE HUMAN VIOLATIONS HE COMMITTED.DO NIGERIANS EVEN BOTHER TO ASK WHY US NEVER MENTIONS IBB BUT ALWAYS BLAMES ABACHA FOR ALL OUR EVILS. ARE WE  SO NAIVE TO THINK THAT THE WEST HAVE OUR INTEREST AT HEART. THIS IS A GAME THAT THEY HAVE DESIGNED AND WE STUPIDLY FOLLOW BECAUSE OF CHEAP VICTORIES AND MEANINGLESS TITLES.

THERE IS NO DEVELOPING COUNTRY TODAY THAT IS ACHIEVING SUCCESS TODAY THAT RELIED ON WORLD BANK LOANS AND IMF, CHECK INDIA,BRAZIL,HONG KONG ETC.ALL THESE COUNTRIES ACHIEVED SUCCESS BY INVESTING IN  EDUCATION AND DEVELOPING THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THEIR SOCIETIES.

NIGERIA HAS NO NEED FOR A LOAN WE HAVE ALL THE WEALTH WE NEED , ALL WE NEED IS THE COMMITMENT, PATIENCE AND DEDICATION TO ACHIEVE OUR GOALS.

JONATHAN IS STILL A PRODUCT OF THE SAME SYSTEM THAT ENSLAVES US (PDP) TODAY,HE IS PART OF THE SAME ILLEGITIMATE GOVERMENT  AS THE YARADUA HE SUCCEEDED.JUST BECAUSE HE SUCCEEDED A SICK PRESIDENT THAT WAS NOT ELECTED, DOES THAT NOW MAKE HIM LEGITIMATE?

WHY DO NIGERIANS LIKE TAKING SHORT CUTS INSTEAD OF FIGHTING FOR REAL VICTORY WHICH IS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE CREDIBLE ELECTIONS AND VOTE OUR CHOICE THOSE THAT TRULY REPRESENT OUR ASPIRATIONS. NOW JONATHAN IS PLAYING BALL WITH THE US AND SELLING OUR COLLECTIVE FUTURE AND WE A RE CELEBRATING MEANINGLESS VICTORIES.DOES ANYONE THINK THE WEST CARES ABOUT OUR PROGRESS,THEY WILL DO ANYTHING TO ENSLAVE US BECAUSE THAT WHAT KEEPS THEM ON TOP AND WE ARE CELEBRATING.CELEBRATING OUR OWN DOOM.
T[b]THE WEST KNOWS THAT WE ARE EASILY SENTIMENTAL TO TRIBAL LOYALTIES AND PETTINESS AND MANY PEOPLE WILL JUST SUPPORT JONATHAN JUST BECAUSE HE IS FROM NIGER DELTA OR SOUTH, AS A RESULT WE LOOSE COLLECTIVELY, WE LOOSE WHERE IT MATTERS MOST.[/b].


NIGERIANS PLEASE WAKE UP, PUT BEHIND SHORT TERM VICTORIES ,PETTY TRIBAL SENTIMENTS AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, LET US LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES AND STOP SETTLING FOR LESS.WE ARE SELLING OUR FUTURE FOR NOTHING.

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Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by misterh(m): 6:21pm On Apr 28, 2010
This is good news. I hope it is good for Nigeria also.
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by asamuel: 10:03am On Apr 29, 2010
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Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by martinosi: 10:08am On Apr 30, 2010
PapaBrowne:

Aganga emerges World Bank chairman
By Daniel Idonor

ABUJA—MINISTER of Finance, Mr. Olusegun Aganga,  in Washington D.C. has emerged as the new Chairman of the Board of World Bank and International Monetary Fund, BWIs, after a keenly contested election.



This Guy is a Pasty at best or a Minion at the Worst so it does not really matter,

President of the World Bank (Always an American) - This Post Matters!!!

Head of IMF (Always a European) - This Post Matters!!!

Commander of NATO Forces (An American) - This Post reallllly Matters!!!

All other Supranational Body Post, ie Chairma, Vice President , Secretary
of UN, World Bank, IMF etc etc - Does Not really Matter!!! lol!!!

Just good window Dressing and make-belief for Third world Citizens to think they have a hold on real power lol!!!

Ask most Europeans or Americans who the Head of the World Bank is and they would Not even have a Clue!!!
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by martinosi: 10:12am On Apr 30, 2010
kev-d:

Nigerians should wake up and stop celebrating CHEAP Non existent victories.Please why are we so naive and easily fooled.Just because someone is given a Titular position in the World Bank is not a cause to celebrate.Can Someone Tell me what we have won, WE HAVE NOT WON ANYTHING.

NIGERIANS HAVE SHOWN THAT THEY HAVE NOT LEARN T ANYTHING AFTER IBB SOLD your COLLECTIVE FUTURE TO THE US UNDER THE GUISE OF IMF LOANS.- TRUTH BE TOLD  ALL THESE GLOBAL FINANCIAL ORGANIZATIONS WORLD BANK, IMF ARE JUST SCHEMES SET UP BY THE WEST TO ENSLAVE DEVELOPING COUNTRIES WITH RESOURCES-THATS THE GOSPEL TRUTH.

IBB THAT WE WORSIP,WAS JUST A STOOGE FOR THE US,THEY FUNDED HIS COUP, SUPPORTED HIS REEGAN LIKE TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS AND THAT IS WHY IBB EASILY TOOK THEIR LOANS AND WAS NOT EVEN CRITICIZED BY THE US DESPITE ALL THE HUMAN VIOLATIONS HE COMMITTED.DO NIGERIANS EVEN BOTHER TO ASK WHY US NEVER MENTIONS IBB BUT ALWAYS BLAMES ABACHA FOR ALL OUR EVILS. ARE WE  SO NAIVE TO THINK THAT THE WEST HAVE OUR INTEREST AT HEART. THIS IS A GAME THAT THEY HAVE DESIGNED AND WE STUPIDLY FOLLOW BECAUSE OF CHEAP VICTORIES AND MEANINGLESS TITLES.

THERE IS NO DEVELOPING COUNTRY TODAY THAT IS ACHIEVING SUCCESS TODAY THAT RELIED ON WORLD BANK LOANS AND IMF, CHECK INDIA,BRAZIL,HONG KONG ETC.ALL THESE COUNTRIES ACHIEVED SUCCESS BY INVESTING IN  EDUCATION AND DEVELOPING THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THEIR SOCIETIES.

NIGERIA HAS NO NEED FOR A LOAN WE HAVE ALL THE WEALTH WE NEED , ALL WE NEED IS THE COMMITMENT, PATIENCE AND DEDICATION TO ACHIEVE OUR GOALS.

JONATHAN IS STILL A PRODUCT OF THE SAME SYSTEM THAT ENSLAVES US (PDP) TODAY,HE IS PART OF THE SAME ILLEGITIMATE GOVERMENT  AS THE YARADUA HE SUCCEEDED.JUST BECAUSE HE SUCCEEDED A SICK PRESIDENT THAT WAS NOT ELECTED, DOES THAT NOW MAKE HIM LEGITIMATE?

WHY DO NIGERIANS LIKE TAKING SHORT CUTS INSTEAD OF FIGHTING FOR REAL VICTORY WHICH IS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE CREDIBLE ELECTIONS AND VOTE OUR CHOICE THOSE THAT TRULY REPRESENT OUR ASPIRATIONS.  NOW JONATHAN IS PLAYING BALL WITH THE US AND SELLING OUR COLLECTIVE FUTURE AND WE A RE CELEBRATING MEANINGLESS VICTORIES.DOES ANYONE THINK THE WEST CARES ABOUT OUR PROGRESS,THEY WILL DO ANYTHING TO ENSLAVE US BECAUSE THAT WHAT KEEPS THEM ON TOP AND WE ARE CELEBRATING.CELEBRATING OUR OWN DOOM.
T[b]THE WEST KNOWS THAT WE ARE EASILY SENTIMENTAL TO TRIBAL LOYALTIES AND PETTINESS AND MANY PEOPLE WILL JUST SUPPORT JONATHAN JUST BECAUSE HE IS FROM NIGER DELTA OR SOUTH, AS A RESULT WE LOOSE COLLECTIVELY, WE LOOSE WHERE IT MATTERS MOST.[/b].


NIGERIANS PLEASE WAKE UP, PUT BEHIND SHORT TERM VICTORIES ,PETTY TRIBAL SENTIMENTS AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, LET US LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES AND STOP SETTLING FOR LESS.WE ARE SELLING OUR FUTURE FOR NOTHING.

AND THE POST OF THE DAY AWARD GOES TO KEV-D,

THE TRUTH HAS BEEN SPOKEN, THOSE THAT SEEK TRUTH SHOULD READ AND TAKE NOTE!!!
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by martinosi: 10:21am On Apr 30, 2010
misterh:

This is good news. I hope it is good for Nigeria also.

You are sooo Mis-informed,

Please go and check you sources & recent history

Go and do your homework, google, youtube and googlevideo has now
made your history classess easier.

The World Bank is in the business of giving loans, loans
that 70% of recepients cannot pay back,

I suggest you google "Michael Hudson " and hear it
from the Horses Mouth!!!
Re: Finance Minister, Aganga To Chair A World Bank Fund's Board by jokingmary(m): 4:38pm On May 04, 2010
This is serious

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