aieromon:


Wow.

Truly, the Vehicle Licensing Authority only needs the VIN, Engine number and color of car to register it on their database. Some people can be so evil.

How was the buyer able to "re-register" the car?

calculusx:


• Not all Cars require Engine Number for Registration and not all Vehicle Licencing office check custom papers before registration. Where his Company erred was they paid to him directly and not to me. So he just used the money to cater for his needs

calculusx:


* I saw your Post and I didn't ignore. I have been reading about so many other adverts linked to this thread for the past 2 hours I have not even been able to upload any advert today . Interesting and funny comments from NLers. I have missed soo much on here because I just upload adverts and move on without going through what has been happening on Auto Section.

It takes just man to change the world. In as much as you are doing a great Job which you have actually succeeded in doing because I can now see many dealers uploading Pre-purchase pictures which is good for the business, I must reiterate that even I, as an importer, I can't remember the last time I checked Vehicle History. I buy nothing less than 15 Cars on Auctions weekly, how many reports will I check when it's not even sure I will end up winning the bid. So, I only rely on the present state of the Car, I can later check Report after winning the bid if need be which at most times are been exaggerated. Like someone rightly said on another thread, a Car can be term Salvage just because of bumper damage, it all depends on the owner's insurance policy. I'm still surprised how you got Vin no for my 2011 RX 350 except if you got it after I posted the Pre-purchase Pictures.

I had a bitter experience displaying Vin no online here which made me stopped, even if a Client private chat me asking for Vin no, i always feel reluctant releasing it but always release pre-purchase pictures. Not because I had idea what the Report was or was hiding anything, I rather send the US Pics to make their decision. Someone saw my advert, requested for the Vin to to be displayed which I did, this person came to my office with his boss to inspect the Vehicle, made copies of Custom Paper claiming to want to verify if duty was paid and that was all I heard from them.

Few Months after someone else bought the Vehicle and was unable to register it. The Customer could have come here and called me names for selling a Registered Vehicle as Toks. He had a listening ear and we both investigated the Case. It turned out that the guy that inspected the Vehicle with his boss actually took a loan from his office to procure the Car and Registered it without my consent. Luckily, he did the Registration with his Phone number and that was how we were able to track him down. Ever since then, I stopped displaying Vin nos on majority of my adverts

Kudos to you for this Change you brought to Auto Section. You deserve a recommendation

Cosplay:


That’s really criminal and unfortunate. The country we live in.

donchisel:


@Cosplay, only a legal entity can declare a criminal act and not you.
I would rather refer the action as that of one without any integrity to protect.

It is also possible that this guy doesn't even know the implications and impact of auto-registration and only needed the loan money to do other things. He should be arrested and prosecuted accordingly, if he refuses to transfer ownership to the real buyer.

I expect licensing offices should demand proof of purchase from registrants, but anything goes in Nigeria.

Cosplay:
It is illegal to provide registration documents for a vehicle which has not been examined or inspected by the designated officer and has not had the presented documents for said vehicle registration, inspected and verified.

It is also illegal to exhibit or use said illegally obtained and falsified documents.

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. The fact that the law is not adhered to by a lot of unscrupulous agents of the law, does not suddenly make it legal or acceptable.

It is also illegal to obtain or use customs-issued or obtained documents in an illegal or unauthorized manner.

timifakay:


I think Gazzuzz and Ishilove are his closest pals, they are in the best position to answer you.

valarinz:


You're in the same league with him, you can also go and die if my trolling to him pains u.

The day u also decide to take things personal and take this your fake good samaritan bullshit out of here to go to my Facebook page too, I'll start coming for u.

Bye

Geniro:


You are embarrassing yourself with reckless aplomb. You need to exit this thread to preserve your state.

valarinz:


Who's this one, your mama knows you playing with her phone??

donchisel:


@Cosp.lay, only a legal entity can declare a criminal act and not you.
I would rather refer the action as that of one without any integrity to protect.

It is also possible that this guy doesn't even know the implications and impact of auto-registration and only needed the loan money to do other things. He should be arrested and prosecuted accordingly, if he refuses to transfer ownership to the real buyer.

I expect licensing offices should demand proof of purchase from registrants, but anything goes in Nigeria.

timifakay:


Ignorance is no defense.

donchisel:


Noboby is defending yet.
My point is that criminal justice should not be determined on the media.

We only heard from calculuxs and is not yet opportuned to hear from the other party.
Hence the need to choose our criticism carefully.

calculusx:


• Which other Party? What do you expect to hear from someone that inspected a Vehicle, have access to Custom Paper claiming he wants to verify it and dashed into thin air. I called him for update after a week, he claimed funds has not been approved yet only to discovered after several months that he actually registered the Car and collected the loan. Hiss

calculusx:


• Which other Party? What do you expect to hear from someone that inspected a Vehicle, have access to Custom Paper claiming he wants to verify it and dashed into thin air. I called him for update after a week, he claimed funds has not been approved yet only to discovered after several months that he actually registered the Car and collected the loan. Hiss

Cosplay:


Isn't it funny how we tend to create excuses for illegal actions.

donchisel:


@Cosplay, only a legal entity can declare a criminal act and not you.
I would rather refer the action as that of one without any integrity to protect.

It is also possible that this guy doesn't even know the implications and impact of auto-registration and only needed the loan money to do other things. He should be arrested and prosecuted accordingly, if he refuses to transfer ownership to the real buyer.

I expect licensing offices should demand proof of purchase from registrants, but anything goes in Nigeria.

Readonee35L:

If you can provide me with the first lot number of this car with the pictures of the crash before it was retitled . i'd be happy

calculusx:


* I saw your Post and I didn't ignore. I have been reading about so many other adverts linked to this thread for the past 2 hours I have not even been able to upload any advert today . Interesting and funny comments from NLers. I have missed soo much on here because I just upload adverts and move on without going through what has been happening on Auto Section.

It takes just man to change the world. In as much as you are doing a great Job which you have actually succeeded in doing because I can now see many dealers uploading Pre-purchase pictures which is good for the business, I must reiterate that even I, as an importer, I can't remember the last time I checked Vehicle History. I buy nothing less than 15 Cars on Auctions weekly, how many reports will I check when it's not even sure I will end up winning the bid. So, I only rely on the present state of the Car, I can later check Report after winning the bid if need be which at most times are been exaggerated. Like someone rightly said on another thread, a Car can be term Salvage just because of bumper damage, it all depends on the owner's insurance policy. I'm still surprised how you got Vin no for my 2011 RX 350 except if you got it after I posted the Pre-purchase Pictures.

I had a bitter experience displaying Vin no online here which made me stopped, even if a Client private chat me asking for Vin no, i always feel reluctant releasing it but always release pre-purchase pictures. Not because I had idea what the Report was or was hiding anything, I rather send the US Pics to make their decision. Someone saw my advert, requested for the Vin to to be displayed which I did, this person came to my office with his boss to inspect the Vehicle, made copies of Custom Paper claiming to want to verify if duty was paid and that was all I heard from them.

Few Months after someone else bought the Vehicle and was unable to register it. The Customer could have come here and called me names for selling a Registered Vehicle as Toks. He had a listening ear and we both investigated the Case. It turned out that the guy that inspected the Vehicle with his boss actually took a loan from his office to procure the Car and Registered it without my consent. Luckily, he did the Registration with his Phone number and that was how we were able to track him down. Ever since then, I stopped displaying Vin nos on majority of my adverts

Kudos to you for this Change you brought to Auto Section. You deserve a recommendation

Ipfreely:


I understand your position, but it seems to me that this happened because he got the original custom papers from you and then made copies.

With Just the VIN, he wouldn't have been able to do what he did.

I don't quite see the connection between not posting the VIN for your vehicles on this forum and your experience.

A lot of Vehicles here have their VINs available, and I don't see what harm could come of having just the VIN, without the necessary documentation.

Perhaps you could explain further?

calculusx:


• I can register any Car with just the Chasis no and many people can do the same too. Some liscencing office have no interest in your Custom Papers. If they do, how did Vehicles without Custom Papers get registered?

My modus operandi is to display Pre-purchase pictures which is full disclosure of what I know and see at time of Purchase and that will not change anytime soon.

Ipfreely:


I understand your position, but it seems to me that this happened because he got the original custom papers from you and then made copies.

With Just the VIN, he wouldn't have been able to do what he did.

I don't quite see the connection between not posting the VIN for your vehicles on this forum and your experience.

A lot of Vehicles here have their VINs available, and I don't see what harm could come of having just the VIN, without the necessary documentation.

If that were a problem then it would be just as easy to get similar VINs off the internet for whatever unlikely nefarious purpose.

Inasmuch as you don't seem the sort to import a flooded vehicle, I'm sure you can see that just posting photos of its state at time of auction would not reveal the flooded history.

The same would apply to vehicles salvaged for Mechanical or undercarriage faults. These wouldn't be evident from the photos.


Perhaps you could explain further?

Ipfreely:


Noted.

Ipfreely:
In addition, I just noticed, in one of your adverts a few moments ago, that the pre-purchase photos you made available were merely thumbnails, not visible for comparison to the current photos of the vehicle you posted.

Please post actual photos of the pre-purchase condition like you do for most of your vehicles, and not thumbnails. I'm sure you understand the reasons for that.

Lots of Vehicles look similar when they are presented as image thumbnails.

• Bros today is Palm Sunday ooo. Is it only this thumbnails you saw from the advert? How about the first 4 pictures? I yam not understanding

https://www.nairaland.com/4383534/tin-can-cleared-2005-toyota-camry

Ipfreely:


Please respond to the highlighted.

* In response to your question, I have NEVER for once imported Flood or Under carriage Vehicles because they are not the standard of Cars I imported.

Continue digging deep because I made it categorically known I won't display Vin here, it's surely a dead end. Cosplay, who have a way of getting Vin nos just by pictures would have done all these digging deep you are doing now but I always checks out.

Besides, do you think I rely solely on NL for my daily bread? I am an IT by Profession who work remotely but have passion for this business. Most of us are here because we love NL and are addicted to it. This is my own instablog and instagram cum lib Pls dig elsewhere because I'm Clean

Draw this traffic to any of my adverts abeg, i need it more over there

Ipfreely:


Noted.

So all one needs to register a vehicle validly is the Chassis number? No sort of document? Receipt of purchase? Nothing else?

That's a really sorry state of affairs, if that's the case.

Would explain the state of this section. It's merely a microcosm of the Nigerian state.

calculusx:


* In response to your question, I have NEVER for once imported Flood or Under carriage Vehicles because they are not the standard of Cars I imported.

Continue digging deep because I made it categorically known I won't display Vin here, it's surely a dead end. Cosplay, who have a way of getting Vin nos just by pictures would have done all these digging deep you are doing now but I always checks out.

Besides, do you think I rely solely on NL for my daily bread? I am an IT by Profession who work remotely but have passion for this business. Most of us are here because we love NL and are addicted to it. This is my own instablog and instagram cum lib Pls dig elsewhere because I'm Clean

Draw this traffic to any of my adverts abeg, i need it more over there

calculusx:


* In response to your question, I have NEVER for once imported Flood or Under carriage Vehicles because they are not the standard of Cars I imported.

Continue digging deep because I made it categorically known I won't display Vin here, it's surely a dead end. Cosplay, who have a way of getting Vin nos just by pictures would have done all these digging deep you are doing now but I always checks out.

Besides, do you think I rely solely on NL for my daily bread? I am an IT by Profession who work remotely but have passion for this business. Most of us are here because we love NL and are addicted to it. This is my own instablog and instagram cum lib Pls dig elsewhere because I'm Clean

Draw this traffic to any of my adverts abeg, i need it more over there

Cosplay:


Not really Sir. Just a below average Jobless fellow trying to make this section better in his perhaps warped perspective.