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New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:03pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree Professional philosophers, whether atheist or Christian, are surprised by the number of positive reception people such as Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris have received. An atheist professor of philosophy Dr Michael Ruse has said: "Richard Dawkins in The God Delusion would fail any introductory philosophy or religion course. Proudly he criticizes that whereof he knows nothing." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14YM7MP6HzY http://reasonsforjesus.com/new-atheists-are-not-intellectually-bright-philosophers-agree/ 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by mmsen: 12:47am On Apr 13, 2018 |
If he thinks that about the God Delusion what then does he think about the Bible? 3 Likes |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 11:36am On Apr 13, 2018 |
mmsen:He is an atheist who doesn't believe in the Bible or God, hence, doesn't go about maligning the same God who doesn't exist yet telling himself that he is an elite. If you don't believe it, your super intelligence shd tell you to ignore it. This man is the only atheist i've seen so far. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 1:50pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Emmanystone: do you see atheists panning Hinduism or Sikhism. It is because of the way that Christians and Muslims impose their religious view on everyone that makes atheists set out to prove that their "God" is imaginary. 2 Likes |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Butterflyleo: 2:12pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64: Finally an atheist who agrees that he can prove God does not exist. Okay go ahead and disprove the existence of God to me. I dey wait 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 2:24pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:I am sure you saw the word "their" in my sentence,and if you are asking for evidence why Yahweh doesn't exist it is pretty much the same reason you don't believe Allah,Zeus,Brahman,Ogun and the rest exist 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Butterflyleo: 2:28pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64: Your use of the word "their" meant nothing as long as you said "atheists set out TO PROVE " so prove it to me then. Instead of that you do the normal thing atheists are known for, dodging such questions. Did I tell you Allah, Zeus, Brahman, Ogun don't exist? When did I say so? Since I did not mention any of those you listed up there and also never said they did not exist why not focus on the subject at hand and disprove the existence of God to me. I dey wait |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 2:42pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: so you are saying that you believe in those "Gods" I mentioned ?, you have come again butterflyleo,in the next post you would say that Yahweh is the only "God" 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Butterflyleo: 2:47pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64: What manner of nonsense are you saying? When does believing in one particular God mean other gods do not exist? Did I say other gods did not exist? Ogbeni stop saying trash and go ahead and disprove the existence of God to me as you claim atheists want to do. I dey wait. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 2:58pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: well from your statements your are implying that you believe that Allah,Zeus and the rest exist,I am sure you don't but you feel that you have a leverage on me with that,ridiculous,let me discontinue this argument but don't deny later. Now you asked me to disproof the existence of Yahweh,fine the simplest explanation I can give is this I don't see any evidence that the "God" described in the bible exists hence I hold the position that such being doesn't exist 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Butterflyleo: 3:04pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64: What a laughable statement at the bolded. You made a claim on my behalf without me even hinting at anything of the sort. Are you not being daft? Now you want to Also speak for me while also speaking for yourself? Is that not foolishness? Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence is it? After all blind men also DO NOT SEE a lot of evidence for a lot of things but does that stop those things from existing? In this regard you are regarded as a blind man if you cannot see any evidence as you allude. I just shot down your nonsensical attempt at disproving God. Why not make a better attempt with your next try. I was expecting an intellectual argument and not this childish talk you just dropped. Mtcheeew. In a nutshell you just spoke words with no basis and no meaning earlier. Push comes to shove you cannot disprove the existence of God. 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 3:08pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: I don't think I need to continue this conversation, think whatever you like that is your business |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by hopefulLandlord: 3:09pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
mmsen: There's something about the god delusion that irks Christians especially apologists which makes them attack the book and more often the author Apologists think the god delusion is a poor book when looked at from the philosophical angle and that's actually true! Where these apologists get it wrong is that the book wasn't meant to be a philosophical book and claiming its poor philosophically is akin to saying Harry Potter is a poor comedy book, which is a laughable thing to say They're criticising the book for what its not meant to be as Dawkins himself said in the preface of the book not to be writing "against sophisticated theologians," but against the average believer's conception of God as a man in the sky who gave humanity a great book of rules to follow. so when an apologist takes the book and starts lampooning it for presenting a god that's in the sky the apologist has lost the entire plot! cuz there's no sense in criticising the book for what its made clear and unambiguous. Calling the book a strawman is nonsensical too. If majority of humans believe rain moves from ground to the sky and someone writes a book criticising that idea of rain. it would make no sense to criticise the book for criticising that type of rain on the premise that rain doesn't move from ground to sky For instance I've seen apologists criticise Dawkins for lampooning Young earth in the book and they make it sound like Young Earth creationists are few and far between meanwhile Gallup poll showed around 70% of Americans are YECs the book is very popular and sold extremely well in the market which puts the apologists in a catch-22 as they have to criticise the book but they can't do that on the book's terms. A sensible Christian apologist philosopher is better off telling Christians that god is not a magical man in the sky that created the earth 6,000 years ago, grants your wishes, watches over you and would burn you forever for not obeying his rules ams believing in his flavour of religion amongst other misconceptions rather than attacking the book or Dawkins 3 Likes |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Butterflyleo: 3:13pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64: You don't want to because you CANNOT. You made a claim earlier and when asked to stand by your claim you do what all nairaland atheists are known for. YOU RUN AND HIDE. God cannot be disproved (Go and read up on that) That's philosophy 101 for you. Mtcheew. Brain dead atheists everywhere you go. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by mmsen: 3:14pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64: An atheist in India might do so because Hindus, in particular, are notorious for making life difficult for those who do not belong to their religious group. Everything from polluting local rivers with dead bodies; to disturbing the peace; to attacking people who dare to eat beef. Religion lends itself to abuse. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by CAPSLOCKED: 3:17pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
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Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Butterflyleo: 3:19pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU was right. New atheists are not intellectually bright at all. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by hopefulLandlord: 3:22pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
mmsen: This is so true. majority of atheists in India criticise the Hindu belief. "gOD IS NOT GREAT" by late Chris Hitchens also criticises Hinduism and Buddhism. Atheists usually criticise either the religion they left or the most popular religion(s) where they are or both 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 3:22pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
mmsen:You might be right but the point I am trying to make is this,the atheists on question Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris as well as other atheists criticize Islam and Christianity the most because they impose their ideas more than others, and not because they are trying to prove to themselves that Yahweh and Allah don't exist which is what most Christians, there is nothing special about Yahweh and Allah,they are both fabrications,but because the belief in them contributes largely to the way our society is it becomes imperative for us to talk about them |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 3:24pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:suit yourself bro and just so you know,I don't care about your opinion about me or atheism,I don't have anything to prove to you,I would live my life the way I want to and not you or your bible can change that, you can wish me hell or whatever,that is not my business |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Dalam0n: 3:28pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: The people that are actually NOT intelligent are the modern day Christian apologist and their clear dishonest tactics filled with lies and half truths. William Lane Craig who happens to be their Don I've realized over the years is a liar and a very dishonest person. As you said the Christian apologist will never criticize the God delusion book on its merits but will like to condemn it as a book that is not philosophically sound, when it's not that at all. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Butterflyleo: 3:32pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64: Lmao chai chai. Now he says I can wish him hell. Things I never even thought about nor even said. Again he wants to speak for me So now you suddenly have nothing to prove to me yet claimed atheists WANT to PROVE God is imaginary. You are nothing but a confused mumu on the same level as mumuhumanist. Did I say I wanted to change your life? I am only showing you your foolishness which you made in your comment. Live your life as you wish. After all is it my life? |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Dalam0n: 3:33pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64: Most vocal atheist are from the west and yhey seem to attack the religions of their region which happen to be Christianity and lately Islam because of the influx of Muslims and the love hate relationship between Christianity and Islam. Hindus are closely like Christians and Muslims, even though I admit that Christians and Muslims are more than them when it comes to rubbing their religions in people's faces. They also like imposing their religion on people if given the chance and especially in societies where they are dominant. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Dalam0n: 3:37pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: So you think if your God exist you will be here speaking all these meaningless and empty long English that you are speaking abi? Well done. 2 Likes |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by mmsen: 4:25pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Dalam0n: If you were in India you would think differently. Hindus are not shy in shoving their religious delusions down the throats of others. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Martinez19(m): 4:51pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Emmanystone:What an intellectual failure. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Dalam0n: 5:16pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
mmsen: I've lived in India for over 3 months that's why am saying that they are close to Christians and Muslims when it comes to shoving religious bullshit down people's throats. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 6:59pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Martinez19:You thought all this out by yourself? Hmm, impressive. 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 7:01pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64:How am i shoving my faith down your throat? In Nairaland Religion section? You are a joke and i am serious. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emusan(m): 7:14pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64: You're just confirming the OP that "new Atheists are not intellectually bright..." No Theist will ever tell you that other gods don't exist rather they will tell you that the follower/worshipper of those gods are actually worshipping a FALSE God. 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 7:15pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Emmanystone: are we going to play this game I never said you are forcing your faith on others neither did I say otherwise,but everyone knows that atheists and agnostics are badly stigmatized in Nigeria |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 7:24pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64:Stigmatized? I don't even know any atheist in real life to talk of stigmazing them. They are too cowardly to admit they are atheist in real life. 1 Like |
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