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Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 7:59pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Emmanystone: its a good thing you admit you don't know any atheist in real life so maybe you should try to understand some things before you draw your conclusions, one thing I realized most of you bashing atheists haven't even met one in real life so why all the hate? you and I know that Nigerians see atheists as monsters so guy quit the mind game |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 8:12pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64:But will you blame me for seeing an atheist as a monster? If an atheist can get away with it, he can easily kill me just for being a Christian. Imagine what the past even present atheists leaders are doing to their subjects. Guy, only a foolish man will give himself to another man whom he knows can kill him believing there won't be any recompense. Atheists are committing suicide everyday because their lives are empty, shd i allow a man like that close to me? That will be suicide, and i'm not suicidal. The Lord Jesus says i shd love my neighbor as i love myself, He didn't say i shd love my neighbor more thyan i love myself. I can't put a nife in the hand of a man i know can kill me and allow him stand behind my neck. 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 8:24pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Emmanystone:so the bottom line of what you are saying is this regardless of the reason YOU HAVE A PREJUDICE AGAINST ATHEISTS |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by CAPSLOCKED: 8:57pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Dalam0n: WHAT DID WE EVER DO TO DESERVE THIS?? |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 9:12pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64:Regardless of what made them become atheists? An atheist is an atheist. He hates God hates those who believe in Him. If an atheist can say the things they say against God who has power to do and undo, what will they not do to an ordinary human like me? I dey fear atheists like winch. True, i won't leave my child with an atheist even for 5 miniutes to use the toilet. 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 9:12pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64:Regardless of what made them become atheists? An atheist is an atheist. He hates God hates those who believe in Him. If an atheist can say the things they say against God who has power to do and undo, what will they not do to an ordinary human like me? I dey careful with atheists like i dey with winch. True, i won't leave my child with an atheist even for 5 miniutes to use the toilet. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 9:18pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Emmanystone:so when I said atheists are stigmatized you disagreed, reading your comments I can imagine how pained you are,well you are very narrow minded that's all I can say |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 9:32pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64:Call me whatever you like. If i allow a wicked depressed suicidal man close to me will make me broad minded? No sir. I have not seen any atheist yet, if i ever do, i shall but greet him, but will never allow him into my house. 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 9:59pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
Emmanystone:it is unfortunate that because a person doesn't believe in your God you would treat him/her that way,well I'm not surprised I was only shocked when you denied that atheists were stigmatized a liitle discourse and you have shown everyone the bigot you are,when you said you won't allow an atheist into your house I guess that applies for Bill Gates too,assuming he decides to visit you I hope your reply to him would be "sorry sir,I don't speak or have any communion with atheists" it is so heartbreaking that human beings see fellow human beings as monsters because they don't share the same faith if these comments you made were coming from a muslim to you ,I'm sure you would claim that the person is a terrorist but take a look at what someone who is supposed to love his neighbour as himself is saying let me ask you one question since you claim that atheists are wicked,disdainful, suicidal wastrels how come certain irreligious countries are fairing better than a religious country like Nigeria in morality,well being,standard of living and even life expectancy |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 10:51pm On Apr 13, 2018 |
darkchild64:Like i said, call me whatever you like, you won't come close to entering my house except i don't know you can kill me. darkchild64:And who is Bill Gates again? People like that has got nothing on me. Listen i have a very rich life. Very rich. And as far as i'm concerned, Bill Gates is a pauper, because his life is devoted to money/things. He has an empty meaningless life. The Bible says 'A life devoted to things is a death life, but a God-shaped life is a flourishing branch And, "The Worth of a man does not consist in the abundance of the things which he possesses' I value a poor Christian who is a begger more than i do your Bill Gates. darkchild64:Thy speech betray thee. darkchild64:You made your bed lie on it sir. When you open your mouth an insult my father, you expected me to open myself up to you? It's insanity to hand a nife to someone you know hates you and wants you dead. And, i can let a muslim into my house, not an atheist. At least a muslim believes he has a responsibility to allah, who does and atheist answer to? darkchild64:Define 'faring better' And, are they faring well because they practice atheism or because the foundation of the society had already been built solid before atheism took over? |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Nobody: 7:30am On Apr 14, 2018 |
Emmanystone: I don't have any intention of continuing this conversation with you,have a pleasant day |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 7:31am On Apr 14, 2018 |
darkchild64:You for ansa me before you go nah. The countries you meant, were their foundations in atheism? |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by hopefulLandlord: 7:34am On Apr 14, 2018 |
Emmanystone:China, Japan |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by hopefulLandlord: 7:39am On Apr 14, 2018 |
Emmanystone:Can you tell me what they're doing to their subjects and how those things they did was due to their atheism? |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 12:09pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:Are you being serious now? Pls Winner01 and Butterflyleo help this guy with statistics of Atheists leaders killing their subjects. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by hopefulLandlord: 12:13pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Answer the full question, I'm serious show me whatever they did they did because they're atheists |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 12:14pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:How many times will you be told that those people are deeply religious people? KingEbuka spend time educating you on that, yet you still come out here with China and Japan? |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 12:17pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:Mao SeTung killed his people because he was an atheist. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by hopefulLandlord: 12:17pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Emmanystone: When will you learn atheists can be involved in religion as atheists by Kingebukasblog? Confucianism, Buddhism, Taoism, Shintoism etc are religions atheists are involved in An atheist can be religious but that doesn't make them theists 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 12:22pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:And that makes them what? I thought atheists don't believe in any deity? Can you be religious without devoting to a deity? |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by hopefulLandlord: 12:25pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Emmanystone: It appears you're the one that needs education from Kingebukasblog The religions I gave up there are called "Non Theistic religions" any atheist can join each of those religions 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by hopefulLandlord: 12:28pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Prove it! |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by Emmanystone: 3:05pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Those records have been posted here over and over, you keep coming back talking nonsense, will my posting it again change your view? And, what makes you think you can command me? 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by hopefulLandlord: 4:17pm On Apr 14, 2018 |
Emmanystone: Don't project your nonsense on me You said Mao killed "because" he was an atheist, prove it! Records don't matter on that claim as all records would show is that is policies did lead to the death of many people. "Mao SeTung killed his people because he was an atheist." Prove it! 1 Like |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:02pm On Apr 17, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree By Steven Bancarz - January 4, 2017 There is a false societal consensus that atheism is the position of the intellectual elite of the world. That the more thoughtful and intelligent people are atheists, while those who lack critical thinking abilities resort to Theism out of ignorance, fear, or naivety. However, in the eyes of professional philosophers, it is the wave of New Atheists who are perceived as being intellectually deficient. Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, and Krauss frontline this movement, which is more of a pop-culture phenomenon than an academic effort. This is not being mean, this is simply what other scholars have to say about them. For example, a professional philosopher and Theologian Dr William Lane Craig has accused Richard Dawkins' "central argument" in The God Delusion as being the worst argument in the history of Western thought and calls his argument "embarrassingly weak." He goes on to say, in a review of his argument: "THE ONLY DELUSION DEMONSTRATED HERE IS DAWKINS' CONVICTION THAT THIS IS "A VERY SERIOUS ARGUMENT AGAINST GOD'S EXISTENCE." Here is an interesting interview in which he debunks the idea that atheists are the intellectually sophisticated ones in our world: Atheist professor of philosophy at Florida State University Dr Michael Ruse says the following in his article titled "Why I Think the New Atheists are a Bloody Disaster": "I THINK FIRST THAT THESE PEOPLE DO A DISSERVICE TO SCHOLARSHIP. THEIR TREATMENT OF THE RELIGIOUS VIEWPOINT IS PATHETIC TO THE POINT OF NON-BEING. RICHARD DAWKINS IN THE GOD DELUSION WOULD FAIL ANY INTRODUCTORY PHILOSOPHY OR RELIGION COURSE." He goes on to say the following statements: "Conversely, I am indignant at the poor quality of the argumentation in Dawkins, Dennett, Hitchens, and all of the others in that group." "I HAVE WRITTEN ELSEWHERE THAT THE GOD DELUSION MAKES ME ASHAMED TO BE AN ATHEIST. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN. LET ME SAY ALSO THAT I AM PROUD TO BE THE FOCUS OF THE INVECTIVE OF THE NEW ATHEISTS. THEY ARE A BLOODY DISASTER AND I WANT TO BE ON THE FRONT LINE OF THOSE WHO SAY SO." Christian and atheist philosophers are both appalled by the bankruptcy of this wave of New Atheism that is permeating our culture right now. For a more thorough overview of this, check out the article title "New Atheism Is A Joke Among Academics And Scholars." 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by sonofthunder: 9:12am On Apr 18, 2018 |
James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by sonofthunder: 9:15am On Apr 18, 2018 |
darkchild64:classic... |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by superhumanist(m): 9:45am On Apr 18, 2018 |
sonofthunder: Lol. Looking at the backwardness of religious countries, I reject godly wisdom. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by sonofthunder: 9:57am On Apr 18, 2018 |
superhumanist: Job 21:14 Therefore they say unto God, Depart from us; for we desire not the knowledge of thy ways. 21:15 What is the Almighty, that we should serve him? and what profit should we have, if we pray unto him? 21:16 Lo, their good is not in their hand: the counsel of the wicked is far from me. ... 21:27 Behold, I know your thoughts, and the devices which ye wrongfully imagine against me. 21:28 For ye say, Where is the house of the prince? and where are the dwelling places of the wicked? 21:29 Have ye not asked them that go by the way? and do ye not know their tokens, 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath. |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by hopefulLandlord: 10:21am On Apr 18, 2018 |
superhumanist:Even a mildly reetarded human displays much more wisdom than Yahweh of the Hole-ly BuyBull |
Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:35am On Apr 18, 2018 |
superhumanist: Does belief in Evolution make you smart?
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Re: New Atheists Are Not Intellectually Bright, Philosophers Agree by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:43pm On Apr 20, 2018 |
OLAADEGBU: How did New Atheism obtain this identity for itself? the-four-horseman 1. They use people's ignorance to their advantage. Most people who attend atheist conferences and events are laymen. Most people who read the books of Harris, Hitchens, and Dawkins are laymen. Most have not taken any courses in philosophy or had formal training in logic. Most are under-educated in the areas of religious studies and theology. Most have not graduated from post-secondary with a relevant degree. Most have not read the works of Plantinga, Dr Craig, Moreland, or other professional Christian philosophers who have spent decades reading, writing, and formulating thoughts on these topics. It's perfectly fine to be a layman in these questions, but the problem is it makes people extremely vulnerable to fallacious arguments, rhetoric, and sophistry. This makes people susceptible to being hypnotized by the wit and cleverness of people such as Dawkins. 2. They use people's resentment and pain to their advantage. A great deal of atheists, whether they will admit it or not, have either pain or anger stored up against the church and Christian faith. Some have even been spiritually, physically, or emotionally abused by people who call themselves Christians. Hypocrisy has filled people with frustration, resentment, and negative emotional charge towards both God and those who believe in Him. 3. They use their rock-star status as scientists to their advantage. Scientists have a very strange and undeserved authority in our society. They are listened to even when they speak about something totally outside of their discipline and area of expertise. A scientist can write a book on theology, culture, politics, or philosophy and sell a million copies. Take Sam, Harris for example, a neuroscientist who consistently writes best sellers on topics of politics, religion, and morality. These books are poorly received by experts in these fields, and along with the works of Hitchens and Dawkins, will go down in history as making absolutely no positive academic or scholarly impact in any way. Just because someone has a Ph.D. in plant biology or particle physics does not mean they are fit to write about theology or philosophy. Scientists are the only ones who can get away with being writing sloppy, uncareful material about subjects they know next to nothing about. They carry a celebrity-type status that brings their listeners into intellectual submission, regardless of how learned they are in the discipline they are commenting on. So when we have millions of laymen with the sour taste of religion in their mouth sitting under scientists who are posturing themselves as experts, the result is a cultural renaissance of "new atheism." That is, until, their works get reviewed by professors of religion, or professors of theology, or professors of philosophy: "THE GOD DELUSION MAKES ME ASHAMED TO BE AN ATHEIST." (1) http://reasonsforjesus.com/new- atheists-are-not-intellectually-bright-philosophers-agree/ 1 Share
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