A-40:

@Eastbay
Abeg no dey compare England to Germany on any levels them no be mate. Barber l'oba clipper.

3 Euro's 3 World Cups
3 times Euro runner up and 4 time World Cup runner up
Let us check out England:
1 world cup pere (1966)

How is England better than Spain,Holland or Portugal?? So why the fuss over those average Joes

Even France and Argentina are higher in the footie hierarchy. At least France have two Euros and a WC to their name

The likes of Germany should only be mentioned with the Brazil's and the Italy's

Never said anything in that light.
All I'm saying is this Germany thing is over-rated.In fact Germany in recent times is better than Naija

Like I said,Germany haven't done anything for 14 years.Second-place finishes dont count.

Like I said,England's record in finals is 100%

The records speak for themselves.I would only be a fool to argue against the facts on ground.But the way DK is spnning this thing is out of hand.
My only reference of England was in relation to their ties with GErmany.And in recent times,England seem to get the better of Germany.I never said anything to the efect that England are better than Germany on the world game.

A-40:

How is England better than Spain,Holland or Portugal?? So why the fuss over those average Joes

That is pretty easy to be quite honest.
Have those aforementioned countries won any worldcup?

Never said anything in that light.
All I'm saying is this Germany thing is over-rated.In fact Germany in recent times is better than Naija

Overrated is a country who has 3 world cup and 3 Euro cup? Then what do we call England?

Like I said,Germany haven't done anything for 14 years.Second-place finishes dont count.

I dont remeber England having done anything in your lifetime cos I am sure you are under 44yrs of age. In my lifetime, I have seen Germany lift trophies in my lifetime but England?

Like I said,England's record in finals is 100%

I can also say Senegals record against France is 100%

The records speak for themselves.I would only be a fool to argue against the facts on ground.But the way DK is spnning this thing is out of hand.
My only reference of England was in relation to their ties with GErmany.

I have seen the 3 rats miss out on major tournaments twice already something thats unthinkable for a German team.

And in recent times,England seem to get the better of Germany.I never said anything to the efect that England are better than Germany on the world game

What does getting the better of mean? Tell me in the last 40 years how many tournaments England has surpassed Germany.

@Eastbay
England has not crossed the quarter finals of any competition since the Euros they hosted in 96 and guess who won? That's right the Mannschaft

2nd place in 02 and 3rd place in 06 with another 2nd place in 08 counts it builds pedigree and that is why they rarely exit tournaments early that is why they don't perenially crumble when shoot outs come calling! That is why England would not get to Germany's level in our lifetime! Germany has a better past and present than England so i don't see the basis for juxtaposing em! I have listed the countries we can compare to England in my previous post

@Chic2pimp
Spain,Holland and England have only ever won 1 international title in their history so whats their difference? 99% of posters where not born when England won their only title! Infact Goodluck Jonathan was still shittin his pampers when England last won something! I'd tell you the difference between Spain,Holland and England. . . Spain and Holland have won something in my life time

@Eastbay
England has not crossed the quarter finals of any competition since the Euros they hosted in 96 and guess who won? That's right the Mannschaft
2nd place in 02 and 3rd place in 06 with another 2nd place in 08 counts it builds pedigree and that is why they rarely exit tournaments early that is why they don't perenially crumble when shoot outs come calling! That is why England would not get to Germany's level in our lifetime! Germany has a better past and present than England so i don't see the basis for juxtaposing em! I have listed the countries we can compare to England in my previous post
@Chic2pimp
Spain,Holland and England have only ever won 1 international title in their history so whats their difference? 99% of posters where not born when England won their only title! Infact Goodluck Jonathan was still shittin his pampers when England last won something! I'd tell you the difference between Spain,Holland and England. . . Spain and Holland have won something in my life time

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A-40:

@Chic2pimp
Spain,Holland and England have only ever won 1 international title in their history so whats their difference? 99% of posters where not born when England won their only title! Infact Goodluck Jonathan was still shittin his pampers when England last won something! I'd tell you the difference between Spain,Holland and England. . . Spain and Holland have won something in my life time

Spain has actually won two tournamnents(1964 and 08)
That notwithstanding they along with the other teams you mentioned have failed to win the big one 'The Worldcup' unlike England. That automatically puts england above em'.

Spain has actually won two tournamnents(1964 and 08)
That notwithstanding they along with the other teams you mentioned have failed to win the big one 'The Worldcup' unlike England. That automatically puts england above em'.

The big one that was won when they were playing football with pyjamas and using brown ball?

When a ball that didnt cross the line was given as a goal?

Anything won before `970 shouldnt count. Thats probably why Uruaguay, England and Hungary are probably not regarded as football powers because they have done nought since the days Barrack Obama started elementary school

@Dayokanu
I can't stand that overrated,overhyped and buncha divas and drama queens that are the Three Lions they have not won enough to generate such hype! Footiewise they are a Third World country and the sooner they accept that the sooner their fortunes would change

@Chic2pimp
Please what has England won in ya lifetime? England have no Euros either and they even have better records compared to England in major tournaments take it or leave it England are a third world country. Phockit England is not better than Greece!!

dayokanu:

The big one that was won when they were playing football with pyjamas and using brown ball?

When a ball that didnt cross the line was given as a goal?

Anything won before `970 shouldnt count. Thats probably why Uruaguay, England and Hungary are probably not regarded as football powers because they have done nought since the days Barrack Obama started elementary school

Should not count ma backside.
Accept it England won the Worldcup.

P:S The ball did cross the line.

A-40:

@Chic2pimp
Please what has England won in ya lifetime? England have no Euros either and they even have better records compared to England in major tournaments take it or leave it England are a third world country. Phockit England is not better than Greece!!

This is absurd. England and greece, why not eyimba and barcelona?
England have no Euros but neither do the other countries you mentioned have worldcup winners medals.
I definitely know which one I'll rather have.

@Chic2pimp
Please what has England won in ya lifetime? England have no Euros either and they even have better records compared to England in major tournaments take it or leave it England are a third world country. Phockit England is not better than Greece!!

Pls dont insult Greece. I saw Theodore Zagorakis lift the Euro cup in 2004. I have never seen any Enghlish Captain lift any trophy in my life time. even Obama cant remember seeing any English captain lifting a trophy

P:S The ball did cross the line.

Which line?

England have no Euros but neither do the other countries you mentioned have worldcup winners medals.
I definitely know which one I'll rather have.

I bet you would rather be Uruguay than Holland, You would rather be Hungary than be Czech republic,

dayokanu:

Which line?

Ibeere?

dayokanu:

I bet you would rather be Uruguay than Holland, You would rather be Hungary than be Czech republic,

2 Worldcup Winners Medal vs 1 European Champs Winners Medal.

Hell Yeah, You Bet!!!

@Chic2pimp
No on a serious note how is England better than Greece? Both of them have only ever been to one major final and have only one major title to their name! Some peeps would even argue that the Euros is tougher than the WC. It is inferiority complex that always makes England want to rub shoulders with Germany and other superpowers. . Like Jigga said on 'Money ain't a thing' "Willie's wanna rub shoulders your money too young"

and when since your lifetime become the terms of reference in football?

football has been b4 and will be after your lifetime

England has a world cup, spain and co dont!

how many UCL titles did Bayern win in your lifetime?
1 out of 4 so does that mean Bayern arent as successful as UTD who has won 2 UCL trophies in your lifetime?

tkb417:

and when since your lifetime become the terms of reference in football?

football has been b4 and will be after your lifetime

I tire ooo .
Since my 3 Year old nephew did not witness Italy's triumph 4 years ago, should we therefore discount their victory?

A-40:

@Chic2pimp
No on a serious note how is England better than Greece? Both of them have only ever been to one major final and have only one major title to their name! Some peeps would even argue that the Euros is tougher than the WC. It is inferiority complex that always makes England want to rub shoulders with Germany and other superpowers. . Like Jigga said on 'Money ain't a thing' "Willie's wanna rub shoulders your money too young"

How makes England Better than Greece? Uncle A40 is that you asking that question or did someone hack into your account?
Okay, Since Greece and Holland have won the same amount of trophes should we also lump em' into the same bracket?

Simple question, What makes England better than Uruguay, Greece, Holland and Spain.

England havent been spectacular but i doubt Germany are better than them presently

Spain, Holland and Brasil will always beat England tho

England havent been spectacular but i doubt Germany are better than them presently

Germany are undoubtedly better than England at every point for most of 40 years. Germany was in the final of a major tournament 2 years ago when England didnt even qualify

dayokanu:

Germany are undoubtedly better than England at every point for most of 40 years. Germany was in the final of a major tournament 2 years ago when England didnt even qualify

doesnt mean England cannot beat them if they play today

whats the scoreline the last time they played?

Dont rule out the Capello factor

Surely Togo can beat Brazil, but does that mean Togo would outperform Brazil in a tournament?
Norway beat Brazil 4-2 before France 98 while Brazil played the finals, Norway crashed out.
Cameroun even beat Diego Maradona's Argentina while the Argies got to the finals of the same tourney.
In Tournoi de France England won the tournament and they had the worst performance at the mundial of all the participants. Brazil, Italy, France.
Its something to win Emirates and Amsterdam cup, Its another thing to win league and CL

warreva. . . .

Germany and England will not win the World Cup this year so i dont know how Germany are superior to England as at today

@Chic2pimp
England ain't $hit!! Lemme give you the world footie order for the past, present and future

Tier 1
Brazil,Germany,Italy

Tier 2
Argentina, France

Tier 3
Holland,Spain,England,Greece,Denmark,Uruguay

Tier 4
Portugal,Czech Republic,Sweden e.t.c

Now you know the teams you should be lumping England with. Abi you fit convocate before you matriculate?? I have told you why England are not better than Greece. . . How else can i say it i don't speak no other languages

^^^^^ I'll put Argentina in Tier 1.
Also I am not having Greece and Denmark in Tier 3.

Naah dawg based on recent performances in world football and their finals appearance Argentina stays in Tier 2! Do you agree though that England are in the 3rd Tier?? Shoulda been lower sef and with just one major title and final appearance they have no right to be higher than the Danes! Not with 2 semis in 43 years

Tbh, My list would look like so

Tier 1
Brazil,Italy,Germany,Argentina

Tier 2
France,England,Holland and Spain(possibly Uruguay)

Tier 3
Portugal,Denmark,Greece,Czech Republic

Why is England in tier and Uruguay is probably?

WHy is England ahead of Denmark and Greece if I may ask

A-40 na here u dey, based on recent performances I'm not sure frnace will be on any of those seats. And Spain belongs in Tier 1.

@Chic2pimp
Did you smoke Reggie Miller?? How can England and France be in the same tier? 2 Euros and 1 WC to just a paltry 1 WC? Nigga please

dayokanu:

Why is England in tier and Uruguay is probably?

WHy is England ahead of Denmark and Greece if I may ask

By the virtue of them having won the big one plus the fact they have performed quite admirably in tournaments(2 semis and numerous quarterfinals) unlike greece who fluked one tournament and performed poorly in other major competitions or Denmark who won a tourney they shouldn't have entered in the first place.

P:S Uruguay is in Tier 2

A-40:

@Chic2pimp
Did you smoke Reggie Miller?? How can England and France be in the same tier? 2 Euros and 1 WC to just a paltry 1 WC? Nigga please

No I smoked D Wade . Going by your logic then Uruguay 2 worldcups should be higher than France 1 worldcup

WHy is England ahead of Denmark and Greece if I may ask

By the virtue of them having won the big one plus the fact they have performed quite admirably in tournaments(2 semis and numerous quarterfinals) unlike greece who fluked one tournament and performed poorly in other major competitions or Denmark who won a tourney they shouldn't have entered in the first place.

P:S Uruguay is in Tier 2

By this reasoning Czech should be on the same level as Holland, And Hungary higher than Portugal

@Chic2pimp
Ohh i see its past working hours so your comprehension of English language must have closed for business today. Did you miss where i said i based the ratings on a mix of final appearances and recent performances in Int'l competitions? So 2 semis in 44years is enough to move England to the level of France and Argentina? Abeg stick to juju analysing football is not by force

England is just the equivalent of South Africa in the African continent. They dominate the media and feed us with bull like Heskey is the Black Klinsmann and David Seaman and James are equals of Oliver Kahn and Sepp Maier

@A-40,DK,
My emphasis is on RECENT times.
In recent times,Germany ain't s.hit.That's what I'm about.I never sang any praises of England.All i said jokingly was England had a 100% history in finals played.

Again,A-40,I won't be as daft as to compare the histories of England and Germany.
And England got to the semi-finals in Euro 96.Lost to Germany in a one-sided tie over 120 mins via a penalt y shoot-out.
I asked a question:in international competition,when was the last time Germany beat England inside 90 or 120 minutes?Still no answers.
My point is:it's only a matter of time before Germany's luck in these tournaments runs out against England.