12 Super Tucano Fighter Jets Purchase: The Hurriedly Paid For Liability!

The truth is, if almost all our military hardwares (which includes; armored tanks, AK-47s, gunships etc) are usually sourced from Russia just like the delivery to the military fleet of two Russian made MI-35M helicopter gunships by the Nigerian Airforce sometimes in April 2018, then the question is, why waste so much to buy what could have been cheaper and economically friendly to our coffers by purchasing it from either Russia or China? (The MI-35M helicopter is one of the most sophisticated aircrafts in the category of the MI-35 gunships which has a unique feature of night fighting capacity. Source; https://www.nationalhelm.co/2018/04/nigeria-air-force-takes-delivery-of-mi-35m-helicopter-gunships.html)

Surprisingly, you keep wondering how Nigeria could go for an almost $500 million twelve A-29 Super Tucano fighter jets that will be delivered in 2020 from the United Stares, when we actually have pending and looming dangers to face through the hands of Boko Haram and rampaging Fulani Herdsmen now. To worsen the arms deal between the two countries, stringent conditions were attached in the area of agricultural bilateral trade which will further weaken our already struggling economy as the United States will flood our markets with their farm produce raking in millions of dollars into US coffers while rendering our own farm produce on a subsistence level.

It is common sense and being pound wise to note that these same fighter jets would have cost us less monies with no attached stringent conditions if purchased from Russia or China, but somehow the Presidency choose to be penny wise and pound foolish. Time will reveal many secrets behind this deal sooner than we think.

Indeed, there are still something in the dark, sinister about this hurriedly purchased fighter jets which Nigerians will get to know about soon. Remember, I said it here!

@Tomakint

How can anyone take you serious when you don't know what a fighter jet is?

While you are at it can you please provide us with a Russian equivalent of the super tucano.

tomakint:
12 Tucano Super Jets Purchase: The Hurriedly Paid For Liability!

The truth is, if almost all our military hardwares (which includes; armored tanks, AK-47s, gunships etc) are usually sourced from Russia just like the delivery to the military fleet of two Russian made MI-35M helicopter gunships by the Nigerian Airforce sometimes in April 2018, then the question is, why waste so much to buy what could have been cheaper and economically friendly to our coffers by purchasing it from either Russia or China? (The MI-35M helicopter is one of the most sophisticated aircrafts in the category of the MI-35 gunships which has a unique feature of night fighting capacity. Source; https://www.nationalhelm.co/2018/04/nigeria-air-force-takes-delivery-of-mi-35m-helicopter-gunships.html)

Surprisingly, you keep wondering how Nigeria could go for an almost $500 million twelve A-29 Tucano super jets that will be delivered in 2020 from the United Stares, when we actually have pending and looming dangers to face through the hands of Boko Haram and rampaging Fulani Herdsmen now. To worsen the arms deal between the two countries, stringent conditions were attached in the area of agricultural bilateral trade which will further weaken our already struggling economy as the United States will flood our markets with their farm produce raking in millions of dollars into US coffers while rendering our own farm produce on a subsistence level.

It is common sense and being pound wise to note that these same fighter jets would have cost us less monies with no attached stringent conditions if purchased from Russia or China, but somehow the Presidency choose to be penny wise and pound foolish. Time will reveal many secrets behind this deal sooner than we think.

Indeed, there are still something in the dark, sinister about this hurriedly purchased fighter jets which Nigerians will get to know about soon. Remember, I said it here!

@Tomakint

gabng:
How can anyone take you serious when you don't know what a fighter jet is?

While you are at it can you please provide us with a Russian equivalent of the super tucano.

How can you be reasoning like a toddler? You should have seek for my candid opinion and the tone of my thread on the shady aspect of the deal which will come to light soon. The Russian equivalent of the Tucano A-29 super fighter jets are;Russian SU-27SK and SU-30MKK fighters.also the Brazil’s EMB-314 Super Tucano can be checked on Google......Buhari just messed up

TheCabal:
What is the Russian or Chinese substitute for the Tucano?

gabng:
How can anyone take you serious when you don't know what a fighter jet is?

While you are at it can you please provide us with a Russian equivalent of the super tucano.

here they are , more modern , and cost lesser

and also, they are Jet Propelled, don't run on blades you know

Nigeria wants to buy “10,000 tractors” from US – Aliko Dangote



Africa’s richest man Aliko Dangote confirmed in an interview with NTA that Nigeria was looking to buy “about 10,000 tractors” from the United States.

According to Aliko Dangote, the tractors will help “small holder farmers” with “modern farming”. He also mentioned that Nigeria discussed about multiplying seeds “especially maize and also Soya Beans”.

He also mentioned that Nigeria will by September this year become the “highest, biggest African country in terms of export of fertilizer

https://nairametrics.com/nigeria-wants-to-buy-10000-tractors-from-us-aliko-dangote/

Rumor mongering and ignorant Igbos, this is what Nigeria discussed and asked for, not the silly and ignorant rubbish about the US flooding Nigeria with agric produce.

Black man ... immediate solution ....sharp sharp.

White man .. futuristic approach

Do you think boko guys will be non existent in 2020 ?

Don't you think they would improve their capabilities too?

Donald Trump is a shrewd business man who loves to bargain.

Let's for a second act like you are Einstein himself.

Do you know the difference between t a turboprop & a fighter jet?

Do you know what the per hour operating cost of the platforms you have mentioned is & juxtapose same with the tucano?

Do you know the loiter time of the platforms you have stated in comparison with the tucano?

Do you know what Close Air Support means & which of the platforms perform it better?

Hombre, you are swimming in waters you don't have the slightest idea about.

Stick to Davido & chioma issues. Please I beg you.

tomakint:

How can you be reasoning like a toddler? You should have seek for my candid opinion and the tone of my thread on the shady aspect of the deal which will come to light soon. The Russian equivalent of the Tucano A-29 super fighter jets are;Russian SU-27SK and SU-30MKK fighters.also the Brazil’s EMB-314 Super Tucano can be checked on Google......Buhari just messed up

tomakint:

How can you be reasoning like a toddler? You should have seek for my candid opinion and the tone of my thread on the shady aspect of the deal which will come to light soon. The Russian equivalent of the Tucano A-29 super fighter jets are;Russian SU-27SK and SU-30MKK fighters.also the Brazil’s EMB-314 Super Tucano can be checked on Google......Buhari just messed up

Bros when it comes to these machines I'm very conversant with them as i'm up to speed. The super tucano may be owned by a Brazilian company just as you have toyota owned by Japan but also being manufactured in Canada, same with the super tucano. It's is based in florida.

I thought you even called it SUPER-tucano!

Now, what you don't know is that today America has the best jets vs what Russia has. Why do you think they are number 1? The best jet on earth now is the F-22 raptor. Go check the Russian equivalent of the F-22 raptor which is SU-57.

Checkout this video and see who would win or see each other first when they come face to face.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlXEEZedY3Y

Don't think because Russia look like a war country or because they love machines, America is always ahead of them.

The raptor turbos far more than the Russia su-57 and Russia is still working on it to match that of the raptor, meanwhile America would have developed the raptor further.

The Americans have deployed F22s for decades and Russia is still developing their new turbofan engines to get their output to the range of 70s K thrust. By the time they field the SU 57 the Americans would introduce their 6th gen fighters..

The raptor is a 5th generation jet. Buhari is not stupid, the American fighter is efficient. Why the do think the tucano is much trending despite it cost? Many countries have it in African.


Below is the list of countries apart from Nigeria that have the super Tucano Jet A-29.

Afghanistan, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Honduras, Indonesia, Philippines,
United States, Guatemala, Lebanon, Libya, Mpzambique, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Sweden, Thailand, UAE,Angola, burkina Faso
Ghana, Mali, Senegal, Mauritania.

In Africa the qty is as follows.

GHANA = 5 AIRCRAFTS
SENEGAL = 3
MAURITANIA = 4
MALI = 6
BURKINA FASO = 3
ANGOLA = 6
NIGERIA AIR FORCE = 12

International
Afghanistan = 26
Brazil = 95
chile = 18
Colombia = 25
Ecuador = 18
Dominican rep = 8
Honduras = 2
Indonesia = 16
Lebanon = 2
Philipines = 6

So Oga what is your point? Na we first buy am? Must we ben lagging behind all the time? Ghana and those smaller country already have it since sef. Why didn't they buy th Russian or China plane (wey go off for sky )?

Buhari is a military man, you can't by anyway know jets more than him abi you wan dey use helipcoter compare jets? All you are looking at is the cost and not its uniqueness.

Just leave it there pls.

Buhari was buying some favour for the forthcoming election.... He want to be in the good eyes oh you American

What do you mean when you call the Tucano a super jet ?

rifasenate11:

here they are , more modern , and cost lesser
and also, they are Jet Propelled, don't run on blades you know

you have been misinformed.

TheCabal:


To set the records straight, and in the interest of "true freedom":

1. The super Tucano is not a "JET", it is a attack aircraft for counter insurgency. The Tucano was designed for low altitude flights, surveillance and extended offensive campaigns against the enemy. You can find a simple overview of the super Tucano at this Wikipedia page - _{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_314_Super_Tucano.}

2. The Airforce Magazine (airforcemag.com) referred to the super Tucano as "the light attack aircraft". The article highlights "The two-seat attack aircraft will provide commanders with greater situational awareness than currently provided by single-seat fighters", "In addition to consuming less fuel than jet fighters, the light attack airplanes could fly for hours without the need to refuel"

You can find the published article at this link
_{http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Documents/2010/January%202010/0110aircraft.pdf}

3. The super Tucano cannot only be used for surveillance and light attack missions it can be used for pilot training.

long story and why does it cost $500m for 12pcs means unit price will be close to $45m, while being sold for $15m per unit.. jet propelled fighter jets is sold around $30m per unit.

rifasenate11:


long story and why does it cost $500m for 12pcs means unit price will be close to $45m, while being sold for $15m per unit.. jet propelled fighter jets is sold around $30m per unit.

Any sensible person will not ask this question

First super tucano sells between $9-15M per unit depending on configuration, cheaper than your Russian jet


The US even paid upwards of $21M for 1 of those for a configuration that suited their purpose

So to answer your question, do you think the Jets come with infinity supply of weapons or do you just picture a jet that's just for flying alone ?


The deal included weapons for all the jets , maintenance , RADAR / Electronic infrastrustures for the effective usage of the jets, training e.t.c among other things

HtwoOw:



Any sensible person will not ask this question

First super tucano sells between $9-15M per unit depending on configuration, cheaper than your Russian jet


The US even paid upwards of $21M for 1 of those for a configuration that suited their purpose

So to answer your question, do you think the Jets come with infinity supply of weapons or do you just picture a jet that's just for flying alone ?


The deal included weapons for all the jets , maintenance , RADAR / Electronic infrastrustures for the effective usage of the jets, training e.t.c among other things

l

where you there when they signed the contract for the supply if those aircraft, to know if it includes training and all those things you mentioned, if buhari really didn't embezzled the funds why would he hurriedly pay for those aircraft without the approval of the legislature and still will wait till 2020 to get the aircrafts to Nigeria. weaponry of an aircraft that costs 2x if not 3x the price of the planes itself. before you speak anything think first.. never has any country weaponize a plane and spend almost 3x the original price of the plane, are they stocking it with nuclear weapons...

rifasenate11:
l

where you there when they signed the contract for the supply if those aircraft, to know if it includes training and all those things you mentioned, if buhari really didn't embezzled the funds why would he hurriedly pay for those aircraft without the approval of the legislature and still will wait till 2020 to get the aircrafts to Nigeria. weaponry of an aircraft that costs 2x if not 3x the price of the planes itself. before you speak anything think first.. never has any country weaponize a plane and spend almost 3x the original price of the plane, are they stocking it with nuclear weapons...

Bros buying a plane is not the same as buying a car. You pay for a plane before it is made.

OP.
How does an informed person call a subsonic, high tech, eye-in-the-sky, manned terrorist killer a liability?
If you don't know why not ask?
This aircraft will plug loopholes in security architecture in more than five areas from border patrol, COIN, pipeline survey, anti smuggling surveillance, anti piracy and so on.

Nigeria will eventually buy more than 100 of these aircraft. They will be networked to NAF operational control room, DHQ, Aso Rock crisis response center.

Nigeria is paying for an entire capability. This is not Jankara market.

Please stop all this rubbish. There is politics with degenerate pot bellied traders masquerading as politicians and there is hard business of National security.

The price Nigeria paid is the same that Iraq and Afghanistan paid. So no issues there. Let the NASS pass the budget we need to add money to the security budget through another supplementary budget.

tomakint:

How can you be reasoning like a toddler? You should have seek for my candid opinion and the tone of my thread on the shady aspect of the deal which will come to light soon. The Russian equivalent of the Tucano A-29 super fighter jets are;Russian SU-27SK and SU-30MKK fighters.also the Brazil’s EMB-314 Super Tucano can be checked on Google......Buhari just messed up

Toma Na was for you, have you considered the cost of running the tucano to these other fighters you mentioned? we are talking close to $9,000 difference. Have considered the cost of maintenance?

rifasenate11:



here they are , more modern , and cost lesser
and also, they are Jet Propelled, don't run on blades you know

Can you give us cost per hourly flight of these fighters against the tucano

AZeD1:

Bros buying a plane is not the same as buying a car. You pay for a plane before it is made.

These guys think there is some kind of fighter jet shop where you pay and pick, I watch the Nigerian senate argue so blindly about this too

AZeD1:

Bros buying a plane is not the same as buying a car. You pay for a plane before it is made.

OK... so the plane has not been made sef. while we already have helicopter gunships from Russia.

rifasenate11:




here they are , more modern , and cost lesser

and also, they are Jet Propelled, don't run on blades you know

Thank you bro God bless your wisdom most of the folks here thought we are all robots that must endorse the diplomatic gaffe of Buhari all the times

rifasenate11:
l

where you there when they signed the contract for the supply if those aircraft, to know if it includes training and all those things you mentioned, if buhari really didn't embezzled the funds why would he hurriedly pay for those aircraft without the approval of the legislature and still will wait till 2020 to get the aircrafts to Nigeria. weaponry of an aircraft that costs 2x if not 3x the price of the planes itself. before you speak anything think first.. never has any country weaponize a plane and spend almost 3x the original price of the plane, are they stocking it with nuclear weapons...

We just like to bring to the public domain our sordid political campaign (either to feign smartness or to expose our ignorance on things we are not experts). You righly think the presidency and the consultants the Nigerian government used for this bargain are foolish and you know better than them? Note, the presidency hurriedly paid for the aircraft in order to meet the deadline of payment stipulated by the USA government. Of course, we all know the bureaucratic bottleneck pose by our legislative council.

For your consumption, refer to the attached press release from US government (State Department Bureau of Political Military Affairs) on the deal. Details of the cost $592 million is highlighted in Yellow.

Peace!

rifasenate11:


OK... so the plane has not been made sef. while we already have helicopter gunships from Russia.

Stop educating these ones they are not wired to think deep, to them Buhari is the best thing that happened to Nigeria since slice bread.

AZeD1:

Bros buying a plane is not the same as buying a car. You pay for a plane before it is made.

We all know that stop repeating that here we are talking of the cost implications of acquiring such from US when fairer ones with cheaper prices can be gotten from Russia or China

deomelo:
lol @ another ignorant and unintelligent ipob thread...

The only thing in your life is shouting IPOB up and down like a programmed robot

Ratello:


We all know that stop repeating that here we are talking of the cost implications of acquiring such from US when fairer ones with cheaper prices can be gotten from Russia or China

There are lots of things involved in buying Military weapons and cost is just one of them.

We bought training aircrafts from Pakistan recently too.

tomakint:


Stop educating these ones they are not wired to think deep, to them Buhari is the best thing that happened to Nigeria since slice bread.

I know you hate Buhari but it will interest you to know this Tucano aircraft is what GEJ wanted to buy but Obama blocked. I can't remember you criticizing GEJ for trying to buy the Aircraft, rather you and your kind blamed Obama for not supporting GEJ.

rifasenate11:
l

where you there when they signed the contract for the supply if those aircraft, to know if it includes training and all those things you mentioned, if buhari really didn't embezzled the funds why would he hurriedly pay for those aircraft without the approval of the legislature and still will wait till 2020 to get the aircrafts to Nigeria. weaponry of an aircraft that costs 2x if not 3x the price of the planes itself. before you speak anything think first.. never has any country weaponize a plane and spend almost 3x the original price of the plane, are they stocking it with nuclear weapons...

Now it is clear that this guy is a Mumu

AZeD1:

I know you hate Buhari but it will interest you to know this Tucano aircraft is what GEJ wanted to buy but Obama blocked. I can't remember you criticizing GEJ for trying to buy the Aircraft, rather you and your kind blamed Obama for not supporting GEJ.

Sure I was aware Jonathan bid for 12 Super Tucanos in 2013 but the foolish homosexual supporting Obama denied him laying claim to violation of human rights by our armed forces when it is crystal clear that Obama denied us based on Jonathan's stance on not kowtowing to their demands which prompted him to venture into buying from South Africa with Oritsejafor's private Jwt out of desperation. Only moronss will love Buhari for this gaffe