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Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by enm(m): 4:41pm On May 27, 2018
In as much as i want development in every area of this country i will not for the sake of sentiment argue blindly or join the herds in their opinion.

Its a pity to see people comparing and contrasting the recently just commissioned fly over bridge in ekiti with that of Lagos and some 2 or 3 state.

Questions people should be asking is how much is the cost of the fly over bridge? Was the cost inflated? Was there other under hand dealings? Is the quality of job done commiserate with the declared cost? Questions like this is what should be on people's mouth.

In terms of infrastructure and all and pace of provision, right now no state can meet up with Lagos state because none of them can boast of the financial power of Lagos state and the advantages she enjoined being the former capital of the country and being a major gateway centre.

Ekiti state and some other state can not even boast of one quarter of Lagos of Lagos financial power. In fact Lagos monthly income alone from internal generated revenue is the total yearly income of some state even adding Federal allocation to it.

Now can people expect people ekiti to compete with Lagos. Is like saying our father should compete with the likes of dangote and fellow billionaire in catering for our needs. In reality is that possible? You and i know it not possible unless we want our father to kill themselves and throw the family into mourning and misery.

Today many state are neck deep in debt to that it will take generations yet unborn to pay them off that's if we leave anything for them to just live by. Today many state are owning months of salary, pensioners are suffering and during before there time because of lack of proper health maintenance due to lack of financial capacity. Am not going to mention state so as to avoid creating another topic or drama off this write up of mine and defeat the intended purpose of this write up.

Some state monthly recurrent expenditure far outweigh their monthly total income that is internal generated revenue and federal allocation and this state government are condemned to meet up with the recurrent expenditures and provision of infrastructures. How can such a state survive? Or even put up edifice like Lagos and Abuja ?

Fayose of ekiti state did what he can do within the state financial capacity and don't forget he has salaries to pay. With current ekiti state financial capacity and the debt he claim he met that will took ekiti state till year 2048 to pay off that's if no debt is added. Don't forget not long ago a stat took home about 200,000 naira from the monthly federal allocation because of over indebtedness. Many state have put on hold many on going project because of over indebtedness and the bitter truth some state can't survive without the Federal allocation, their internal revenue generated is nothing to write home about.

As a governor, fayose was appointed to improve the conditions of the ekiti people and one way i think he should have put massive effort on is the utilization of the vast arable land in ekiti state. That would have gone a long way in improving the lot of the people of the state and the state purse. Well let me stop here before delving into another angle.

Please if we must argue, compare and contrast let do so with sense of morality and with facts. Thanks

Take note i stand to be corrected. If you believe am wrong in my write up please do take your time to correct me or counter my point but with no insult. God bless you.

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Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by sirzent(m): 5:02pm On May 27, 2018
PICTURES WOULD HAVE HELP$

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Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by enm(m): 5:17pm On May 27, 2018
sirzent:
PICTURES WOULD HAVE HELP$
Lol! Funny you. You want to turn this into drama.
Some people were comparing the fly over bridge with ikoyi link bridge.
Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by skedman(m): 5:18pm On May 27, 2018
The only thing you forgot is that lagos is witnessing growth not because it was formerly a capital but because of the caliber of people that is ruling it. You cant compare ambode with fayose in terms intelligence,exposure they are two different things let us rule out sentiment .if fayose was given the chance to rule lagos .lagos will be worse than that of ekiti that is just the fact

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Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by GavelSlam: 5:28pm On May 27, 2018
I tell people all the time, had many of the likes of Ibori ruled Lagos from 1999, it would have been no better than Akwa Ibom today. And sadly, we wouldn't have known any better.

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Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by Ojiofor: 5:36pm On May 27, 2018
skedman:
The only thing you forgot is that lagos is witnessing growth not because it was formerly a capital but because of the caliber of people that is ruling it. You cant compare ambode with fayose in terms intelligence,exposure they are two different things let us rule out sentiment .if fayose was given the chance to rule lagos .lagos will be worse than that of ekiti that is just the fact

And you think Ambode can turn Ekiti into Lagos if given the chance to rule Ekiti with his intelligence and exposure but without resources?

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Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by yarimo(m): 6:23pm On May 27, 2018
FAYOSE is the most dubious and fraudulent governor in nigeria, the ekiti state flyover that he is claiming as achievements to his government is sub- standard .

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Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by ijaw1stson: 6:36pm On May 27, 2018
Let me pitch me tent here

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Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by BabaRamota1980: 7:23pm On May 27, 2018
Where is the flyover or bridge before i comment?

OP, you are accurate. The development crusade in Lagos started with Jakande, but he was handicapped by opposition, NPN, and then by military take over. Tinubu took many playbooks to create what we have today in Lagos. He may not dress like Awo but he took a lot from the Awo Doctrines on capitalism and socialism. His successes on capitalism outweighed the many infrastructures in socialism. The handover of the ruling template, commonly called passing of the baton, was used by Awo in the Western Region. An incumbent packages a State of State report and hand it over to the incoming administration. The new administration must either implement whats on the book or propose an improvement that carries more benefits and aesthetics than the one given to him. Tinubu monetized a lot of public services to generate money from which he funded the social programmes. That tradition has continued successfully. It has become expectation that Lagos State will provide certain services and when they don't people call in with complaints and the govt responds. There is no other state that has this. So when the state introduce a new levy people grumble and complain but they pay it. At the end the benefit is passed back to them in public service. Through this exchange and expectations the state has grown its riches exponentially.

If care is not taken Lagos will earn more than Nigeria in the next 10yrs or less when tje two ports of Lekki and Badagry go commercial. The opportunity is immense!

By the time Ambode completes 8yrs Tinubu will no longer need to be involved. He can retire. The machine will run and self-oil itself. He just tested that possibility not long ago when he announced to the state party leaders that if you have been there 10yrs or more don't contest, yield for new contestants to show face and occupy roles. He is testing and preparing the ground for his own exit. I believe Ambode will likely be replacement for Tinubu.

So you are correct, while the interior adopted Awo's Doctrine in form, Lagos practiced them in substance.

Currently Lagos has built a credit worthiness powerful enough that it can contract Berger or some other consortium to link Nigeria with a super-highway and it will get done. Other states cant even connect the length and breadth of their border with a highway, it will be out of their reach financially.

People should stop the comparison.

Having said that I must now ask if indeed there is any practical relevance to a state or city erecting a flyover?

Lagos has a functional need for the many bridges and flyovers it has. Some cities just put one up for aesthetic or to join the flyover gang without a true need for it.

If a city must put up infrastructure bridge should not be the default structure. There are cities with a high water table, or even lakes and rivers, how about building a viaduct or hydroelectric dam to generate electricity for local consumption, or to serve as irrigating channels for agricultural expansions. They can also setup a water treatment plant and pipe water to homes. These are public services from which the city can generate revenue and attract population to flourish, which increase the IGR exponentially.

There is no reason why Ekiti, with all its hills and valleys and streams, lakes and rivers does not have one or two dams for functional delivery of public service.

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Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by enm(m): 8:04pm On May 27, 2018
BabaRamota1980:
Where is the flyover or bridge before i comment?

OP, you are accurate. The development crusade in Lagos started with Jakande, but he was handicapped by opposition, NPN, and then by military take over. Tinubu took many playbooks to create what we have today in Lagos. He may not dress like Awo but he took a lot from the Awo Doctrines on capitalism and socialism. His successes on capitalism outweighed the many infrastructures in socialism. The handover of the ruling template, commonly called passing of the baton, was used by Awo in the Western Region. An incumbent packages a State of State report and hand it over to the incoming administration. The new administration must either implement whats on the book or propose an improvement that carries more benefits and aesthetics than the one given to him. Tinubu monetized a lot of public services to generate money from which he funded the social programmes. That tradition has continued successfully. It has become expectation that Lagos State will provide certain services and when they don't people call in with complaints and the govt responds. There is no other state that has this. So when the state introduce a new levy people grumble and complain but they pay it. At the end the benefit is passed back to them in public service. Through this exchange and expectations the state has grown its riches exponentially.

If care is not taken Lagos will earn more than Nigeria in the next 10yrs or less when tje two ports of Lekki and Badagry go commercial. The opportunity is immense!

By the time Ambode completes 8yrs Tinubu will no longer need to be involved. He can retire. The machine will run and self-oil itself. He just tested that possibility not long ago when he announced to the state party leaders that if you have been there 10yrs or more don't contest, yield for new contestants to show face and occupy roles. He is testing and preparing the ground for his own exit. I believe Ambode will likely be replacement for Tinubu.

So you are correct, while the interior adopted Awo's Doctrine in form, Lagos practiced them in substance.

Currently Lagos has built a credit worthiness powerful enough that it can contract Berger or some other consortium to link Nigeria with a super-highway and it will get done. Other states cant even connect the length and breadth of their border with a highway, it will be out of their reach financially.

People should stop the comparison.

Having said that I must now ask if indeed there is any practical relevance to a state or city erecting a flyover?

Lagos has a functional need for the many bridges and flyovers it has. Some cities just put one up for aesthetic or to join the flyover gang without a true need for it.

If a city must put up infrastructure bridge should not be the default structure. There are cities with a high water table, or even lakes and rivers, how about building a viaduct or hydroelectric dam to generate electricity for local consumption, or to serve as irrigating channels for agricultural expansions. They can also setup a water treatment plant and pipe water to homes. These are public services from which the city can generate revenue and attract population to flourish, which increase the IGR exponentially.

There is no reason why Ekiti, with all its hills and valleys and streams, lakes and rivers does not have one or two dams for functional delivery of public service.

Thank you and God bless you for your reply. If nairalander can discuss issue the way you just did just imagine what nairaland would turn to.

You raise some factors which i said i don't to delve into in my writeup because of the drama it will generate defeating the intended purpose of my write up which is we should not put all state on the same level.

As stated Lagos has some advantage which other state does not have, the political advantage of being the former capital which mean the Federal government in the time past put some effort into developing Lagos into a position befitting her status as the federal capital and lucky enough for Lagos jakande came along the buba marwa and tinubu till ambode . Another advantage that play in favour of Lagos is her economic advantage over others and also being a major gateway centre of the country.

Some people may want to argue about other state with port and crude oil but my question is if those state had receive the same attention from the then Federal government as Lagos will Lagos be the only state with such financial capacity? Please don't get me wrong that am in support of the wrongs going on some of those state, sometimes i wish means to deal with those governors.

My opinion in term of development and provision of infrastructures in other state should not be put on the same level with Lagos. State should be assessed and judged base on their capacity not base on the capacity of a sister state. We should not look things from the angle of political party affiliation.

Today we are hailing aregbe for some of the infrastructures but deep in my heart when i consider the cost and the debt the state is in right now i feel pity for the next incoming governor except oil price goes, the next incoming governor of that state will be seriously hamper in carrying out his or her campaign promises.

Your last two paragraph sum it all on how ekiti can improve there lot and i alluded to the vast arable land in ekiti in my write up. Its all good on paper but this things also need some financial muscle which ekiti is seriously lacking.
Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by GavelSlam: 8:47pm On May 27, 2018
enm:


Thank you and God bless you for your reply. If nairalander can discuss issue the way you just did just imagine what nairaland would turn to.

You raise some factors which i said i don't to delve into in my writeup because of the drama it will generate defeating the intended purpose of my write up which is we should not put all state on the same level.

As stated Lagos has some advantage which other state does not have, the political advantage of being the former capital which mean the Federal government in the time past put some effort into developing Lagos into a position befitting her status as the federal capital and lucky enough for Lagos jakande came along the buba marwa and tinubu till ambode . Another advantage that play in favour of Lagos is her economic advantage over others and also being a major gateway centre of the country.

Some people may want to argue about other state with port and crude oil but my question is if those state had receive the same attention from the then Federal government as Lagos will Lagos be the only state with such financial capacity? Please don't get me wrong that am in support of the wrongs going on some of those state, sometimes i wish means to deal with those governors.

My opinion in term of development and provision of infrastructures in other state should not be put on the same level with Lagos. State should be assessed and judged base on their capacity not base on the capacity of a sister state. We should not look things from the angle of political party affiliation.

Today we are hailing aregbe for some of the infrastructures but deep in my heart when i consider the cost and the debt the state is in right now i feel pity for the next incoming governor except oil price goes, the next incoming governor of that state will be seriously hamper in carrying out his or her campaign promises.

Your last two paragraph sum it all on how ekiti can improve there lot and i alluded to the vast arable land in ekiti in my write up. Its all good on paper but this things also need some financial muscle which ekiti is seriously lacking.

Ekiti always boasts of its high intellectual/educational base and the best they could come.up with was Fayose.

With such intellectuals, one would have assumed patents, industries, high-tech agricultural domains would dote the landscape.

Ekiti wants to tell us the leadership of Fayose, if not the best, was adequate, and for me, that is an insult on their so-called academic prowess.
Not just because of his limited education, but for the fact that nothing of any significance was achieved under his rule.

To claim paucity of funds, can only mean Ekiti hasnt learnt to harness from the resources- human and capital that abounds.

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Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by iyilax(m): 9:35pm On May 27, 2018
yarimo:
FAYOSE is the most dubious and fraudulent governor in nigeria, the ekiti state flyover that he is claiming as achievements to his government is sub- standard .
ogbeni!!!! pls get lost u speak with sentiment.

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Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by 7lives: 10:35pm On May 27, 2018
skedman:
The only thing you forgot is that lagos is witnessing growth not because it was formerly a capital but because of the caliber of people that is ruling it. You cant compare ambode with fayose in terms intelligence,exposure they are two different things let us rule out sentiment .if fayose was given the chance to rule lagos .lagos will be worse than that of ekiti that is just the fact

Senepa padol? senepa shekini?.
If e no be panadol, e no go ever be like panadol.
I hope Fayose is NOT allowed to leave the country after the expiration of his tenure.
Just in case the ramshackle that he called a bridge needs to be overhaul, to save the lives of innocent unsuspecting Ekiti people.
If Fayose CANNOT refund the bridge money, he should at least be magnanimous enough to join the labourers to carry KONKERE, when the repairs is being done.

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Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by UfuomaUN(m): 6:10am On May 28, 2018
skedman:
The only thing you forgot is that lagos is witnessing growth not because it was formerly a capital but because of the caliber of people that is ruling it. You cant compare ambode with fayose in terms intelligence,exposure they are two different things let us rule out sentiment .if fayose was given the chance to rule lagos .lagos will be worse than that of ekiti that is just the fact

Calibre ke?
Re: Stop Comparing Ekiti Fly Over Bridge With Lagos. Kaaki Is Not Jeans by Babacele: 9:52am On May 28, 2018
GavelSlam:


Ekiti always boasts of its high intellectual/educational base and the best they could come.up with was Fayose.

With such intellectuals, one would have assumed patents, industries, high-tech agricultural domains would dote the landscape.

Ekiti wants to tell us the leadership of Fayose, if not the best, was adequate, and for me, that is an insult on their so-called academic prowess.
Not just because of his limited education, but for the fact that nothing of any significance was achieved under his rule.

To claim paucity of funds, can only mean Ekiti hasnt learnt to harness from the resources- human and capital that abounds.
it is a pity that an unrepentant ,uneducated and antidemocratic rogue who said 6 is greater than 13 is ruling Ekiti presently. It is on record that this thug was rigged into power GEJ in 2014 ( remember Gen Momoh, Obanikoro, and co) over a more urbane, educated ,polished and resourceful Fayemi who raised the state's IGR to N150m monthly which Fayose is currently stealing.

One would have thought that in his second coming, 'spotless' ( a nickname from 419 exploits) would have taken advantage of Ekiti's agricultural potentials to form business alliances across Nigeria and beyond like LAKE initiative (Lagos-Kebbi Rice ) or any other dev initiative like doubling Fayemi's social security to Elderly folks; promoting SME hubs that take youths whose minds he constantly poisons off the streets; but hell no Fayose's only achievement has been refusing workers' salaries ,lightfingering Ekiti, lying, thuggery and distracting Ekiti people from asking questions about his fraudulent stewardship in the name of abusing PMB as opposition so called bulldog.
In few weeks time all that would be taken care of when Fayemi takes over from this tout.

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