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Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by biomes2001: 9:52pm On Jun 07, 2010
Sunday worship represents the mark of the Beast which Lucifer instituted through the Vatican,whereas the Sabbath is the seal of God which HE instituted from the origin of creation.These 2 days will form the borne of contention for those who are seeking God in the last days;and will seperate the chaff christians from the wheat christians[b],

ORIGIN OF SABBATH IN THE BIBLE[/b]

"And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy,because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done"(GEN.2:3)
See also EX.20:8-11,i.e the the Law of God or 10commandments

ORIGIN OF SUNDAY WORSHIP

"He[i](the beast)[/i] will speak against the MOST HIGH and oppress His saints and try to change the set times[i](for worship,e.g.Sabbath,and feasts,e.g,passover,etc.)[/i] and the laws (i.e,the 10 commandments,e.g,change of the 4th to sunday worship). The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time". (DAN.7[i]:25).

Decided this day wether u'll obey God's commandments or u'll follow the traditions of the catholic church also taught by false prophets like Benny Hinn,Kenneth Copeland,Oyakhilome,Oyedepo,etc
[/i]
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Joagbaje(m): 8:52am On Jun 08, 2010
We are no longer under the law of sabbaths friend.

Colossians 2:16-17
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath[ days]: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body[ is] of Christ.
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by ttalks(m): 9:13am On Jun 08, 2010
Err. . . . I know the point being pushed by the topic is not really true.
It's the belief held by seventh day adventists and some other people.
I've read a lot on these postulations and they seem to make sense sometimes but there are
other equally sense making views about the "mark of the beast" and the anti-christ stuff that
are completely opposite from the point pushed by the adventists.


The book of Revelations has a lot to say and it is usually the basis of most of these arguments.
One of the paramount claims made by a lot of people based on chapters like Revelations 17 is that
the pope is the antichrist and that the LovePeddler in question is the Roman Catholic Church.

I was inclined to believe this before, but further study has led me to believe that the LovePeddler in Revelations 17 isn't the catholic
church, but the whole of Christendom(that is, the majority that has and still will go into error).
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by petres007(m): 11:00am On Jun 08, 2010
ttalks:

Err. . . . I know the point being pushed by the topic is not really true.
It's the belief held by seventh day adventists and some other people.
I've read a lot on these postulations and they seem to make sense sometimes but there are
other equally sense making views about the "mark of the beast" and the anti-christ stuff that
are completely opposite from the point pushed by the adventists.


The book of Revelations has a lot to say and it is usually the basis of most of these arguments.
One of the paramount claims made by a lot of people based on chapters like Revelations 17 is that
the pope is the antichrist and that the LovePeddler in question is the Roman Catholic Church.

I was inclined to believe this before, but further study has led me to believe that the LovePeddler in Revelations 17 isn't the catholic
church, but the whole of Christendom(that is, the majority that has and still will go into error).


My big bros! Nice having you around. wink

Nice observation you have there. But I still hold the RCC suspect as the great LovePeddler. . . especially in light of Daniel's prophecies, not just revelation
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by petres007(m): 11:18am On Jun 08, 2010
biomes2001:

Sunday worship represents the mark of the Beast which Lucifer instituted through the Vatican,whereas the Sabbath is the seal of God which HE instituted from the origin of creation.These 2 days will form the borne of contention for those who are seeking God in the last days;and will seperate the chaff christians from the wheat christians[b],

ORIGIN OF SABBATH IN THE BIBLE[/b]

"And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy,because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done"(GEN.2:3)
See also EX.20:8-11,i.e the the Law of God or 10commandments

ORIGIN OF SUNDAY WORSHIP

"He[i](the beast)[/i] will speak against the MOST HIGH and oppress His saints and try to change the set times[i](for worship,e.g.Sabbath,and feasts,e.g,passover,etc.)[/i] and the laws (i.e,the 10 commandments,e.g,change of the 4th to sunday worship). The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time". (DAN.7[i]:25).

Decided this day wether u'll obey God's commandments or u'll follow the traditions of the catholic church also taught by false prophets like Benny Hinn,Kenneth Copeland,Oyakhilome,Oyedepo,etc
[/i]

biomes2001,

I see you're 7th day adventist, E.G.White

I would've loved to discuss this issue with you if you're open to discussion on the subject. Of course, you have to defend your position from the scriptures. and by that, I don't mean just quoting scriptures at me. . .

what say you? cool
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by ttalks(m): 11:34am On Jun 08, 2010
petres_007:

My big bros! Nice having you around. wink

Hi Peter. wink
Always around but silent. I choose to speak/write/post only when/where necessary.

petres_007:

Nice observation you have there. But I still hold the RCC suspect as the great LovePeddler. . . especially in light of Daniel's prophecies, not just revelation



Yeah, Daniel's prophecies are one of the parts of the bible used to support the claim against the RCC but still there are other views that knock off RCC as the suspect and point to christianity/christiandom as the LovePeddler of babylon i.e. In the sense that;RCC and every other denomination, going about the faith upside down.Thereby prompting the need for those who are true to christ to come out from among them and really stand for Christ.

I'll try and find some articles on them. wink
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by ttalks(m): 1:29pm On Jun 08, 2010
Is anyone thinking what I'm thinking? . . . .(Check out the below)

2Th 2:3-4
(3) Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the apostasy comes first [unless the predicted great falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come], and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition), [Dan. 7:25; 8:25; I Tim. 4:1.]
(4) Who opposes and exalts himself so proudly and insolently against and over all that is called God or that is worshiped, [even to his actually] taking his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming that he himself is God.

Eze 28:1-2
(1) The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
(2) Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:


1Co 3:17
(17) If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.


1Co 6:19
(19) Do you not know that your body is the temple (the very sanctuary) of the Holy Spirit Who lives within you, Whom you have received [as a Gift] from God? You are not your own,


Question that need to be asked:

Ok, we know in the old testament days, the temple of God was a physical place,right?
But now in the new testament days, the temple of God is the Christian or the body of Christ as shown above.

So, this anti-christ which 2 thessalonians is pointing to; is he going to be seated in a physical temple or within the bodies(hearts) of the christians/church?
undecided undecided
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Omenuko(m): 2:10pm On Jun 08, 2010
biomes2001:

Sunday worship represents the mark of the Beast which Lucifer instituted through the Vatican,whereas the Sabbath is the seal of God which HE instituted from the origin of creation.These 2 days will form the borne of contention for those who are seeking God in the last days;and will seperate the chaff christians from the wheat christians[b],

ORIGIN OF SABBATH IN THE BIBLE[/b]

"And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy,because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done"(GEN.2:3)
See also EX.20:8-11,i.e the the Law of God or 10commandments

ORIGIN OF SUNDAY WORSHIP

"He[i](the beast)[/i] will speak against the MOST HIGH and oppress His saints and try to change the set times[i](for worship,e.g.Sabbath,and feasts,e.g,passover,etc.)[/i] and the laws (i.e,the 10 commandments,e.g,change of the 4th to sunday worship). The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time". (DAN.7[i]:25).

Decided this day wether u'll obey God's commandments or u'll follow the traditions of the catholic church also taught by false prophets like Benny Hinn,Kenneth Copeland,Oyakhilome,Oyedepo,etc
[/i]

How has the Catholic Church changed the Sabbath to Sunday?  If you didn't know, the Catholic Church still proclaims that the Sabbath is still the Sabbath (i.e., the seventh day of the week, namely Saturday).  What the Church has done is continue the apostolic tradition of gathering together to celebrate the Eucharist on Sunday, which is Biblical.  The primary day for Christian worship is Sunday, which is evident in the Bible (see Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:2).  In addition, as Joagbaje posted earlier, we have

Col. 2:16-17- Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

So therefore, you are wrong to declare that those who worship on Sunday have the "mark of the Beast."

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Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by chukwudi44(m): 4:31pm On Jun 08, 2010
The solemnity of the sabbath was transferred to Sunday because it was the day Jesus rose from the death nothing more.

Even Jesus himself while here on earth went against the Jewish teachings of the sabbath by doing work on that day.

He on several occasions had disagreement with the pharisees about rules pertaining to the sabbath and other Jewish rites.

On the RCC being the Antichrist I have seen that it is the official position of the seventh day Adventist church.This view is ridiculous to say the least.The RCC has contributed more to Christianity than any other denomination in Christendom. Like any organization in the world it has had it's fari share of ups and downs but it still remains the back bone of the Christian faith.

No matter how u try u can never extricate the history of the RCC from the history of Christianity.Most of the doctrines and scriptures used in Christianity today were decided by this same organization.

If the RCC is the Antichrist what about Muslims ,Buddhists and other religious organizations that are not even christian
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Image123(m): 4:54pm On Jun 08, 2010
What's the OP on about? The Lord's day was declared even before the revelation of 'mark of the beast'
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Joagbaje(m): 5:08pm On Jun 08, 2010
Image123:

What's the OP on about? The Lord's day was declared even before the revelation of 'mark of the beast'

Wow! I never thought of that
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by petres007(m): 6:24pm On Jun 08, 2010
@ttalks,

bros mi, abeg try find those articles or sites and lemme know. Sounds interesting

and by the way, where did biomes go?
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by petres007(m): 6:42pm On Jun 08, 2010
@biomes,

If you won't discuss your adventist beliefs here, I encourage you to do a little more research on your own as to why the adventist position is wrong and its grand prophetess (Ellen G. White) who claimed divine authority for her revelations and writings, is also wrong and points herself out to be a false prophetess.

Take your time and g through this site - http://www.exadventist.com/

This page offers a summary of Ellen G. White's "ministry" compared to the scriptures - http://www.exadventist.com/Home/Prophet/tabid/55/Default.aspx

This page offers good explanation on why the sabbath craze is unchristian and unnecessary - http://www.exadventist.com/Home/Sabbath/tabid/53/Default.aspx

Again.  .  .  take your time  cool
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Gunnaz007: 12:21am On Jun 09, 2010
hahaha cheesy so dis biometric dude that goes about downloading pics of d oyedepos and oyakhilomes as freemasons, is an adventist dude!!!

Biomes, u hide behind keyboards to attack others and pouring "contrived" and "wickedly imagined" conclusions on the finger/wrist/fist mannerisms of this men (captured while they are preaching or addressing a gatherin), while hiding d sect u belong to, but dis post has exposed u.

I suppose since d devil has taken ova all available signs that one can make with his fingers, then everyone wud just hav to glue his/her fingers together so as not to be seen as a mason, satanist, illums, reptilian, luciferian, buccaneer, eiye, ogede,,,, huhn - shame on u biomes ,,, big shame. The next time ur rabbi preaches from d seventh day adventist pulpit, watch out for him, cos he is gonna flash d devil long-horn salute or d 3six sign bro!!! cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Come on biomes, if i am addressing a crowd, and i'v got to show the "1" sign with my fingers, i wud!!! And if i'v got to show the "3" sign with any of my fingers, i wud!!! And if i'v got to fold my wrist as a lion's claw, i wud!!!! Whateva sign i've got to use my fingers to express, i wud use them to express QED!!!! D devil cant dictate to me which finger/fist/wrist signs i am gonna use in my expressions and which i am not!!!!
Dis is d same myopic reasonin dat made supposed Jewish christians in d days of Apostle Paul to restrict others from eating certain food - such as meat, of which the apostles preached against!!!

The links posted by Petres above are quite revealin; has shown me why biomes' dad was in the masonry for 59 years (lol - maybe 'am exagerating) and y biomes is still spinning at the 22nd degree of the scottish rite (after 19 years of studies initiation rites)
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy tongue

Your prophetess ellen white, i can now see, is a "true prophetess" with "luciferic seizures" in place of 'visions'; as in, if you are not keeping jewish laws (of which Jesus fulfilled and abolished - Ephesians 2:15), then u'r not a christian; the same thing d apostles kicked against huhn undecided

biomes i now understand were u'r comin from,,, hehehehe. All d best! hehehehe!
U guys in d adventist call urselfs "Jews"; hehehehe "Fake" Jews indeed!!!

Bring it on bro smiley
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by ayinkadd(m): 12:53am On Jun 09, 2010
now i am really really confused.
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by petres007(m): 2:43pm On Jun 09, 2010
Gunnaz007:

U guys in d adventist call urselfs "Jews"; hehehehe "Fake" Jews indeed!!!

They call themselves jews?
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by aletheia(m): 8:11pm On Jun 09, 2010
The Sabbath of the New Covenant

This tract is being written because we as Christians are living in a very peculiar time. In these last days prior to the return of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, there is such confusion among so many well meaning and Christian-minded people, and one great point of confusion and contention is regarding the Sabbath.

I have personally been confronted by people who condemned me and my ministry because I did not keep the Sabbath the way they were trying to keep it. There is extremism in any belief system, and that extremism occurs when proponents of a belief system do not accept the whole council of God. In this tract, we will look at the whole council of God on the subject of the Sabbath, which will bring forth a clear understanding of what it is and how it must be kept.

We will now go back to the origin of the Sabbath at the time of the creation as told at the beginning of the book of Genesis. In Genesis 2:1-3 we read, "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."

One thing that should be immediately noticed is that all of the preceding six days end with the following words, "And the evening and the morning were the (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th) day." We do not find these words of finality or summation ending the seventh day, because in a perfect world, everyday thereafter would be a condition of Sabbath or rest and repose. That day was open-ended! Only sin could take away that condition of Sabbath or rest that was meant for everyday, and sadly, that is exactly what happened. Later, we will see how our Lord Jesus restored the perpetual and continual Sabbath to our souls.

The first time we see the word "Sabbath" is in the book of Exodus, and in Exodus 20:8-11, we find that it is given as one of the Ten Commandments as follows: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it."

One primary point that must be noted regarding the Sabbath commandment is that it has nothing to do with going to church! It has only to do with the cessation from work. Nothing more and nothing less. Sinful man was ordered to do nothing on the seventh day. Thus, one day each week he would not be out there committing sin after sin after sin. It was a "do nothing" day, established as such until the Savior would come to give us victory over sin every day of the week and establish rest for our souls by his spirit dwelling within. This could be made possible only through a New Covenant established by the blood of the Lamb of God!

The Old Testament is replete with examples of Sabbath commandments, but in every example, it is under the Old Covenant of a single day of rest, which by the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ has given way to a Sabbath, where every day is one where we cease from our old works. The Old Covenant, according to Hebrews 8:13, is no more! It reads as follows: "In that he saith, a New Covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

In Galatians 3:24-25, we are exhorted "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are NO LONGER UNDER THE SCHOOLMASTER." Thus, the law could lead us to Christ but no further! Those who think that they are keeping the Sabbath as a day must remember that James 2:10 says, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." The only one who has ever kept the Sabbath perfectly is Jesus Christ. Man cannot do what He did in keeping the law. The Lord Jesus took the law to Calvary as well as the sin of the world. It was there that the law and all transgressions met, and He bore the sin of many. See Isaiah 53.

Is there a Sabbath after Calvary? Yes! Hebrews 4:9-10 says, "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his." There are two words not found in those verses, "Sabbath" and "day." It is because our rest is no longer a calendar day each week, but every day, which includes the seventh, and thus we keep the Sabbath by living a godly and blood-washed life every day. For we have ceased from our old works. Some people who haven't come to an understanding of what covenant they are under will point out that Paul often went into the synagogues on the Sabbath. If we look at those incidents, however, we see that it was to bring those who hear out of the synagogue and that system of death. Here is what Paul the Apostle said about the seventh day as found in Romans 14:5-6: "One man esteemeth one day above another, another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord, and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it."

We know that the Sabbath law is fulfilled in Jesus Christ and He abides within us. The seventh day Sabbath was not eliminated but fulfilled, and our Savior added six more days to that rest and gave us the timelessness of eternal life. Thus, the seventh day is kept holy with all the other days. We can worship our Lord any day and every day. We know that Sunday is not the Sabbath but rather one of seven days, any of which can be used for worship. Acts 20:7 says, "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."

It is my humble prayer that all who read this will realize the joy of keeping all seven days of the week holy and thus fulfill the sacred commandment; for it is not our works but the finished work of Christ that has established the eternal timeless Sabbath of the New Covenant by the power of His blood.

Pastor David J. Meyer

Last Trumpet Ministries International
PO Box 806
Beaver Dam, WI 53916

http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by ud4u: 3:42pm On Jun 10, 2010
You are busy dragging when the sabbath day is while others have chosen the most important thing by giving their life to JESUS CHRIST.

My dear, you better face reality and stop pursuing shadows.
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:34am On Jun 11, 2010
God's Rest Day

"Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy."(Exodus 20:cool

For more . . . .
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Joagbaje(m): 2:00pm On Jun 11, 2010
aletheia:

The Sabbath of the New Covenant

This tract is being written because we as Christians are living in a very peculiar time. In these last days prior to the return of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, there is such confusion among so many well meaning and Christian-minded people, and one great point of confusion and contention is regarding the Sabbath.

I have personally been confronted by people who condemned me and my ministry because I did not keep the Sabbath the way they were trying to keep it. There is extremism in any belief system, and that extremism occurs when proponents of a belief system do not accept the whole council of God. In this tract, we will look at the whole council of God on the subject of the Sabbath, which will bring forth a clear understanding of what it is and how it must be kept.

We will now go back to the origin of the Sabbath at the time of the creation as told at the beginning of the book of Genesis. In Genesis 2:1-3 we read, "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made."

One thing that should be immediately noticed is that all of the preceding six days end with the following words, "And the evening and the morning were the (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th) day." We do not find these words of finality or summation ending the seventh day, because in a perfect world, everyday thereafter would be a condition of Sabbath or rest and repose. That day was open-ended! Only sin could take away that condition of Sabbath or rest that was meant for everyday, and sadly, that is exactly what happened. Later, we will see how our Lord Jesus restored the perpetual and continual Sabbath to our souls.

The first time we see the word "Sabbath" is in the book of Exodus, and in Exodus 20:8-11, we find that it is given as one of the Ten Commandments as follows: "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it."

One primary point that must be noted regarding the Sabbath commandment is that it has nothing to do with going to church! It has only to do with the cessation from work. Nothing more and nothing less. Sinful man was ordered to do nothing on the seventh day. Thus, one day each week he would not be out there committing sin after sin after sin. It was a "do nothing" day, established as such until the Savior would come to give us victory over sin every day of the week and establish rest for our souls by his spirit dwelling within. This could be made possible only through a New Covenant established by the blood of the Lamb of God!

The Old Testament is replete with examples of Sabbath commandments, but in every example, it is under the Old Covenant of a single day of rest, which by the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ has given way to a Sabbath, where every day is one where we cease from our old works. The Old Covenant, according to Hebrews 8:13, is no more! It reads as follows: "In that he saith, a New Covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

In Galatians 3:24-25, we are exhorted "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are NO LONGER UNDER THE SCHOOLMASTER." Thus, the law could lead us to Christ but no further! Those who think that they are keeping the Sabbath as a day must remember that James 2:10 says, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." The only one who has ever kept the Sabbath perfectly is Jesus Christ. Man cannot do what He did in keeping the law. The Lord Jesus took the law to Calvary as well as the sin of the world. It was there that the law and all transgressions met, and He bore the sin of many. See Isaiah 53.

Is there a Sabbath after Calvary? Yes! Hebrews 4:9-10 says, "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his." There are two words not found in those verses, "Sabbath" and "day." It is because our rest is no longer a calendar day each week, but every day, which includes the seventh, and thus we keep the Sabbath by living a godly and blood-washed life every day. For we have ceased from our old works. Some people who haven't come to an understanding of what covenant they are under will point out that Paul often went into the synagogues on the Sabbath. If we look at those incidents, however, we see that it was to bring those who hear out of the synagogue and that system of death. Here is what Paul the Apostle said about the seventh day as found in Romans 14:5-6: "One man esteemeth one day above another, another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord, and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it."

We know that the Sabbath law is fulfilled in Jesus Christ and He abides within us. The seventh day Sabbath was not eliminated but fulfilled, and our Savior added six more days to that rest and gave us the timelessness of eternal life. Thus, the seventh day is kept holy with all the other days. We can worship our Lord any day and every day. We know that Sunday is not the Sabbath but rather one of seven days, any of which can be used for worship. Acts 20:7 says, "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight."

It is my humble prayer that all who read this will realize the joy of keeping all seven days of the week holy and thus fulfill the sacred commandment; for it is not our works but the finished work of Christ that has established the eternal timeless Sabbath of the New Covenant by the power of His blood.

Pastor David J. Meyer

Last Trumpet Ministries International
PO Box 806
Beaver Dam, WI 53916
http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org

[b]IS DAVID MEYER NOT A WOFFER?!!!.[/b ]
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Joagbaje(m): 2:05pm On Jun 11, 2010
hahaha  so dis biometric dude that goes about downloading pics of d oyedepos and oyakhilomes as freemasons, is an adventist dude!!![/quote ]

I had said earlier , anyone who goes out lashing at mInisters of the gospel like this will Always have hidden agenda
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by aletheia(m): 3:00pm On Jun 11, 2010
Joagbaje:

[b]IS DAVID MEYER NOT A WOFFER?!!!.[/b ]
Why don't you ask him yourself?
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Joagbaje(m): 3:48pm On Jun 11, 2010
aletheia:

Why don't you ask him yourself?

HE IS A WOFFER FOR REAL BABY!!.
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by aletheia(m): 6:43pm On Jun 12, 2010
Joagbaje:

HE IS A WOFFER FOR REAL BABY!!.
OK. . .If you say so.
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by ukotmi: 9:16pm On Jun 12, 2010
Gunnaz007:

hahaha cheesy so dis biometric dude that goes about downloading pics of d oyedepos and oyakhilomes as freemasons, is an adventist dude!!!

Biomes, u hide behind keyboards to attack others and pouring "contrived" and "wickedly imagined" conclusions on the finger/wrist/fist mannerisms of this men (captured while they are preaching or addressing a gatherin), while hiding d sect u belong to, but dis post has exposed u.

I suppose since d devil has taken ova all available signs that one can make with his fingers, then everyone wud just hav to glue his/her fingers together so as not to be seen as a mason, satanist, illums, reptilian, luciferian, buccaneer, eiye, ogede,,,, huhn - shame on u biomes ,,, big shame. The next time your rabbi preaches from d seventh day adventist pulpit, watch out for him, cos he is gonna flash d devil long-horn salute or d 3six sign bro!!! cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Come on biomes, if i am addressing a crowd, and i'v got to show the "1" sign with my fingers, i wud!!! And if i'v got to show the "3" sign with any of my fingers, i wud!!! And if i'v got to fold my wrist as a lion's claw, i wud!!!! Whateva sign i've got to use my fingers to express, i wud use them to express QED!!!! D devil cant dictate to me which finger/fist/wrist signs i am gonna use in my expressions and which i am not!!!!
Dis is d same myopic reasonin dat made supposed Jewish christians in d days of Apostle Paul to restrict others from eating certain food - such as meat, of which the apostles preached against!!!

The links posted by Petres above are quite revealin; has shown me why biomes' dad was in the masonry for 59 years (lol - maybe 'am exagerating) and y biomes is still spinning at the 22nd degree of the scottish rite (after 19 years of studies initiation rites)
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy tongue

Your prophetess ellen white, i can now see, is a "true prophetess" with "luciferic seizures" in place of 'visions'; as in, if you are not keeping jewish laws (of which Jesus fulfilled and abolished - Ephesians 2:15), then u'r not a christian; the same thing d apostles kicked against huhn undecided

biomes i now understand were u'r comin from,,, hehehehe. All d best! hehehehe!
U guys in d adventist call urselfs "Jews"; hehehehe "Fake" Jews indeed!!!

Bring it on bro smiley

Is Biomes an Adventist? lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Well I sensed something fishy when i read his posts on body gestures and signs. I will be back to comment fully by the time I read nuclearboy's reaction. he cautioned aletheia and others to tread cautiously on the so called revelations of Masonic membership of some pastors. well, I think the mind set and motive of some posters is been made bare.It is sad for a number of respected xtian posters on nairaland to easily jump to funny unsubstantiated conclusions. In essence, they are not sure of the very facts they are posting. How sad cry cry cry cry
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by biomes2001: 2:23pm On Jun 13, 2010
It s becoming very obvious that most pple on this nairaland are nominal Christians who lack the genuine passion for truth and whose knowledge of the scripture is acutely superficial. Why I believe that many are hear to crack sordid jokes and express the vague contents of their hollow mind,very few pple are hear to learn and to exchange views.

Firstly,am surprised that many of u are criticizing my revelation of my fathers past involvement with the occult and my desire to learn the activities of satan and guard against it. For the former,Jesus says that the heavens rejoice when a sinner repents.For the fact that my father repented from his occultism by embracing Jesus should be a good news to TRUE Christian.Your reactions towards that show that most of you are NOT anything close to Chris, talk less of , tian.In fact you are worst than an occult because while many of you revel in your new age pagan Christianity,which hinges only on what ur pastors says rather what the bible says,am sorry u are on the express dual carriage way to hellfire. To you Jesus say> why do u violate the word of God because of your traditions> of Sunday ,easter and Christmas,etc

On the second note,I am not an Adventist,am a member of THE 7th DAY CHURCH OF GOD. I believe in the bible Christianity not your man made ,pagan infested ridiculous and Vatican concocted religion furthered by satanic agents posing as men of God.Just hang on,I ll thru the scriptures prove all of u wrong, just give me a little time.

Again my desire to study the activities of satanists is informed by the scriptures which says do not be ignorant of the devices of the devil [/b]and [b]have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather expose them. Most of u are in a cage of darkness cos u r grossly ignorant.The bible says that my pple perish for lack of knowledge, cos u ve refused to to know thats why u ll never grow spiritually, well u can remain in ur bottomless pit of deceit as for me ,i ll continue to expose Satan and his agents and save those who WANT to be saved!!
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by biomes2001: 2:31pm On Jun 13, 2010
How do we Keep the Sabbath?

Just how are we to keep the Sabbath? The scribes and Pharisees tried to legislate in minute detail all that was acceptable or unacceptable to do on the Sabbath. In doing so, they made the Sabbath a great BURDEN which was something God never intended (cf. 1 John 5:3). God gave the Sabbath in Exodus 20 and magnified it in other places in His Word with some specifics, but mainly by expounding broad, spiritual principles. So what does God tell us about Sabbath day observance?

God wrote and spoke these words in the fourth Commandment, “But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates” Exodus 20:10. So you are not to do any kind of real work on the Sabbath be it your occupation, personal business, housework or any laborious activity. And neither are those in the environment over which you have control. Of course, preparing or cleaning up after a light meal would not be wrong as we find a number of occasions when Jesus enjoyed a Sabbath meal with others. And He never condemned the practice of hospitality on the Sabbath (cf. Luke 14:1-6). Since Jesus said in Matthew 12:10-12 “…it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath”, such as rescuing an animal or healing the sick, that would no doubt include Essential Services such as Doctors, Nurses and Ambulance etc. Finally, to really understand how God intended the Sabbath to be used, look at what He said in Isaiah 58:13-14 “If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath, from doing your pleasure on My holy day, and call the Sabbath a delight, not doing your own ways, nor finding your own pleasure, nor speaking your own words, then you shall delight yourself in the Lord; and I will cause you to ride on the high hills of the earth…” So we are not to be doing our own pleasure on God’s Holy Day. That does not preclude doing any enjoyable things on the Sabbath whatsoever, for we are to find delight in it. The point is that, whatever we do, God must be an intrinsic part of it. A family walk through a natural setting for example, is a wonderful way to get in touch with God who made the beautiful creations we see. When the seventh day arrives, we must stop pursuing our “own ways” (the things we normally do), seeking our “own pleasure” (your normal things of enjoyment) and speaking our “own words” (the everyday things we talk about that do not involve God). This last one is often very hard to follow because “out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks” Matthew 12:34. To truly keep the Sabbath in the spirit, we must focus our minds on God and those things He wants us to be concerned with during His holy time. Then, as God promises, we will be truly blessed. And since it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath, we can make encouraging phone calls or write letters to the sick or visit Christians who are lonely. It may also be possible to visit the sick or others in need on the Sabbath or to have them over for an evening meal. Matthew 25:34-36. The Sabbath is also a “…sabbath of rest, an holy convocation” (Leviticus 23:3) and is therefore ideal for worship services. When we fellowship with other people in whom God dwells, we are in fact also fellowshipping with Him (cf. 1 John 1:3, 7). So we should not think of the Sabbath as the day we can’t do this or that! Rather, we should approach this very special day as a period when we can and should really take time to deeply study and thoughtfully analyse the scriptures. It is a time when we can sit quietly, meditating over and thinking through the truly big issues of life. In addition, the Sabbath is the perfect time for unhurried, thoughtful, heartfelt prayer to our Father in heaven to commune with our Creator, to worship Him, to get to know Him intimately. This is how to keep God’s Sabbath holy.

Another way to establish how the Sabbath should be kept is to imagine spending the day with someone you are absolutely head over heels in love with and that you have the opportunity to spend this one specific day with. You would have as many things as possible prepared the day before so you could spend as much time as possible with that person because you are so in love with them and you want every available moment to spend with them. This is NOT legalism - it is LOVE. This is what the Sabbath is all about. Are you head over heels in love with God? If you are then do the same for Him.

The Sabbath is and always has been the real test Commandment (cf. Exodus 16). Many can accept the other nine but the fourth Commandment is quite different. It means living differently from the society around you, perhaps even being looked upon as odd or weird. Yet Jesus said in Luke 14:26-27, “Those who come to me cannot be my disciples unless they love me more than they love father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and themselves as well.” Does this mean giving up some personal activity on the Sabbath? The answer lies in what your conscience tells you and what the Holy Spirit lays upon your heart. The main consideration is the rest our bodies and minds need and the most beautiful part is that it is a day that we devote entirely to God, i.e. in everything we do, God should be an intrinsic part. How spending one day a week with God who we claim to love could ever be called legalism or a burden is beyond me. Our relationship with Jesus is supposed to be one of faith and trust believing He will always provide our needs when we trust and obey Him. The sacrifice of moving an activity to another day is nothing in comparison to what Jesus did for us in His sacrifice. He was beaten, scourged and nailed to a cross for us. If the only thing that He asks in return is to keep the Sabbath holy then I think our sacrifice is no comparison. “For this is the love of God, that we keep his Commandments: and his Commandments are not grievous.” 1 John 5:3

In Daniel 3, King Nebuchadnezzar made a gold image with dimensions equal to 666 that he commanded all to worship. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego would not disobey God’s Commandment and refused to obey the king. Since they refused, the king threw them into a blazing furnace heated seven times hotter than usual. The King in amazement said, “Why do I see four men walking around in the fire? They are not tied up, and they show no sign of being hurt and the fourth is like that of the Son of God. Praise the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego! They disobeyed my orders and risked their lives rather than bow down and worship any god except their own. There is no other god who can rescue like this.” As a result, the king promoted them to higher positions in Babylon. Here is a beautiful example of obedience to God. This example is a parallel of Revelation 14 showing how we need to respond in end times, i.e. is we should obey God rather than man and not worship the Beast or his image. So do we worship God on the day specified by the Beast and get the mark of the Beast or on the day God commanded and receive the Seal of God? Do you love the “praise of men” more than the praise of God? Or do you have the FAITH and the COURAGE to obey God’s Commandments, even if you were to lose your job and perhaps a few of your friends?
12 Biblical Concepts on how to keep the Sabbath

1. The Sabbath is a day to cease our creating, working with the creation and appreciate what God has done in the world and is doing in us. Genesis 2
2. Elaborate food preparation is to be done on the day before the Sabbath so that there is no baking or major cooking on the Sabbath. Exodus 16
3. The Sabbath is a time to lay our burdens down and rest. We should not do any servile work on the Sabbath. This includes our entire family, even our servants and beasts of burden and strangers who live among us. Jeremiah 17; Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5
4. The Sabbath is an holy convocation. We should meet and worship with others. Leviticus 23
5. We should be reverent and show God that we love, honor and respect His authority. Psalms 89:7, Habakkuk 2:20
6. The Sabbath should be a day of delight and rejoicing, a day which we forsake our thoughts and words for God's thoughts and words. Isaiah 56, 58
7. The Sabbath is a time of healing. Matthew 12, Mark 1, 3, Luke 13-14
8. We are not to buy or sell on the Sabbath. Nehemiah 13
9. The Sabbath is a time to do good and visit and comfort the sick. We should do spiritual work on the Sabbath, serving others. John 5
10. The Sabbath is a time of prayer. Acts 16:13
11. The Sabbath is a time to reason with others about spiritual principles and for ministers to teach the word of God. Acts 17:2, 18:4, 11
12. The Sabbath is a time for Singing. Ephesians 5:19-20, Colossians 3:16, Psalms 92 is called the “Sabbath Psalm”
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Gunnaz007: 10:59pm On Jun 13, 2010
ukotmi:

Is Biomes an Adventist? lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Well I sensed something fishy when i read his posts on body gestures and signs. I will be back to comment fully by the time I read nuclearboy's reaction. he cautioned aletheia and others to tread cautiously on the so called revelations of Masonic membership of some pastors. well, I think the mind set and motive of some posters is been made bare.It is sad for a number of respected xtian posters on nairaland to easily jump to funny unsubstantiated conclusions. In essence, they are not sure of the very facts they are posting. How sad cry cry cry cry

^^^My friend shattap dia!!!

biomes' spiritual myopia on sunday worship and keeping the sabbath is enough to class him as an adventist!!!! However, I accept my bad for rushing to conclude on his place of worship!!!

By d way, how did u know biomes is not an adventist? Have u interacted with him b4? Because u posted the above b4 biomes made his previous two replies afta several days of opening the thread; or is biomes also ukotmi? U had beta unlocked this mystery!!!

And u were quick to say i made unsubstantiated conclusions about biomes' place of worship; i see; how about biomes' unsubstantiated conclusions about oyedepo and oyakhilome?

biomes must show us videos or photos of the men of God he accused as cultist partaking in initiation rites or attending freemasonic meetings (not pictures of their mannerisms captured while they are preaching to their congregation and hear-says!!!) to substantiate his claims, else, he has commited a grave sin b4 God and man for character assasination and wickedly imagined, conjured/conjective lies against these men!!!
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by nuclearboy(m): 5:29am On Jun 14, 2010
@biomes2001:

Do you remember Christ saying "The Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath". Have you also sincerely considered the idea that Christ nailed the law to the cross? Whist it is true that the original sabbath was saturday, the fact that the Word says that Moses Law was a law of condemnation and was nailed to the cross should tell you something about Sabbath observation. I believe that under NT dispensation, EVERYDAY is a Sabbath to the Lord.

God rested on the seventh day (your sabbath) after creating Adam. Notice however that as long as Adam was sinless, there was no law (meaning no sabbath). The law of Moses came after sin came. It was a consequence of sin AND INCLUDED the Sabbath. Today, after Christ sacrifice, the idea is that we are restored to the Adamic status and so, day to day, night by night, we are Holy unto the Lord, not only saturdays.

If you wish we still hold on to Sabbaths, why just that? Why not also burnt offerings and women banished for days after monthly periods. Please re-consider your sabbath  issue and do not put yourself back under the curse of the law.

@Joagbaje/CE people:

Bros, I see your little altercation over what you call "WOFFER". Let me ask you this simply - being a WOFFER (as you say); do you think we take it to mean that everything you say is wrong? If your pastor (for example) says "God be Blessed", do you think we'll say he's wrong BECAUSE he's a WOFER. Please don't make a mountain of out nothing and stop behaving as though its a "us against them" thing. No one hates you. Its just that in some things, you guys go too far.

For Christians, you suprised me here - you're rejoicing that you found something over biomes2001. Not one single attempt to find/show truth from the Bible. Just a matter of "you abused my pastor" and now I have the chance to attack you too. Where is God in all of that? Abi chris"T" is THE ONE, not God?  This then is an example of what most complain about, not that they hate you.
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by ukotmi: 10:44pm On Jun 14, 2010
Gunnaz007:

^^^My friend shattap dia!!!

biomes' spiritual myopia on sunday worship and keeping the sabbath is enough to class him as an adventist!!!! However, I accept my bad for rushing to conclude on his place of worship!!!

By d way, how did u know biomes is not an adventist? Have u interacted with him b4? Because u posted the above b4 biomes made his previous two replies afta several days of opening the thread; or is biomes also ukotmi? U had beta unlocked this mystery!!!

And u were quick to say i made unsubstantiated conclusions about biomes' place of worship; i see; how about biomes' unsubstantiated conclusions about oyedepo and oyakhilome?

biomes must show us videos or photos of the men of God he accused as cultist partaking in initiation rites or attending freemasonic meetings (not pictures of their mannerisms captured while they are preaching to their congregation and hear-says!!!) to substantiate his claims, else, he has commited a grave sin b4 God and man for character assasination and wickedly imagined, conjured/conjective lies against these men!!!

Haba, beloved kiss kiss kiss e never reach make you tell  me to shattap. I was not referring to your post when i asked "is biomes an Adventist?" I asked the question in general terms and not to poke fun. Go thru my posts and you will discover that ukotmi is not the same as biomes. click on my profile and then on last posts. I have always called for believers to major on fundamentals that define us as Christians and not frills of hair style,whether to wear suit or agbada to preach etc. 
Read my several contributions. I always advocate caution giving the other person a benefit of doubt. Incidental I play Buchi, Sinach all CE singers while driving.
nuclearboy:

@biomes2001:

For Christians, you suprised me here - you're rejoicing that you found something over biomes2001. Not one single attempt to find/show truth from the Bible. Just a matter of "you abused my pastor" and now I have the chance to attack you too. Where is God in all of that? Abi chris"T" is THE ONE, not God?  This then is an example of what most complain about, not that they hate you.

bros, you surprised me with the above post. Though I understand your stance. On the thread where biomes made a number of sweeping accusations, you called for caution but some christians went ahead to accuse others of what they could not provide any iota of proof. Infact, you predicted that if biomes allegations are discovered to be otherwise, it would amount to a loss of face. A man is presumed innocent until proved guilty bit it baffles me that christians are always the first to launch unwarranted and unsubstantiated attacks on other christians. I have taken time severally in my little way to advocate that we focus on the majors and not the minors. The more of God we know, the more sober we become as a result of seeing our imperfections that we are living by His grace.

I have may several issues or points of disagreement with several pastors, but they are not fundamental to my salvation. But I doff my hat to your advice on the other thread.
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Gunnaz007: 10:47pm On Jun 14, 2010
nuclearboy:


@Joagbaje/CE people:

For Christians, you suprised me here - you're rejoicing that you found something over biomes2001. Not one single attempt to find/show truth from the Bible. Just a matter of "you abused my pastor" and now I have the chance to attack you too. Where is God in all of that? Abi chris"T" is THE ONE, not God?  This then is an example of what most complain about, not that they hate you.


^^ Guy, for the church of a supposed christian that has taken pleasure in assasinating the character of other christians (most especially, men that are sheperding over other christians) to be made known is worth celebrating, or aint it? Is it right to sit behind the keyboards and attack other churches' doctrines when you have not made known the church were u worship?

let all know ur church so that we can discuss issues on a level playing ground - and u know u are culpable in this regard - in some other thread u said i gaffed about asking about were u worship; quite funny; it's easy to sit down and attack cec and others; bros i will always ask u to tell the name of that your holier-than-thou church were u worship whether the church is located in your sitting/bedroom or is one of the named churches - i guess i gaffed again!!!

Now you are here posing as mr. too-damn-good when u are d one that celebrates and spew hate news (in some cases with vile words) about christians u dont agree with!!!

You that know how to show truth from the bible, continue huhn - but note that your truth perspective from the bible can in no way change the resolve of another christian's truth perspective from the same bible,  as is the case on the subject matter discussed on this thread, or tithing issues, of which i know u to be vocal about!
Re: Sunday Worship Is The "mark Of The Beast" And Sabbath Is The Seal Of God by Gunnaz007: 10:52pm On Jun 14, 2010
ukotmi:

Haba, beloved kiss kiss kiss e never reach make you tell  me to shattap. I was not referring to your post when i asked "is biomes an Adventist?" I asked the question in general terms and not to poke fun. Go thru my posts and you will discover that ukotmi is not the same as biomes. click on my profile and then on last posts. I have always called for believers to major on fundamentals that define us as Christians and not frills of hair style,whether to wear suit or agbada to preach etc. 
Read my several contributions. I always advocate caution giving the other person a benefit of doubt. Incidental I play Buchi, Sinach all CE singers while driving.


^^ I apologize for my shakara "shattap yelling"! There was no stress in it at all wink

Shalom

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