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Are These Not Antichrist?! by Primesky(m): 8:49pm On Sep 01, 2018
The bible tells us one major characteristic of the anti Christ, and that is denying that Jesus came in the flesh.

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.


Jehovah's Witnesses deny the physical resurrection of Jesus from the dead. This is another radical departure from historic Christian teaching. The Watchtower Society maintains that the Lord's resurrection was purely spiritual and only appeared as physical.

Is this not another way of denying that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh?. This and many more leaves so much questions to be answered as to who this group of people truly are and who they actually believe in.

If you become a JW and then leave them because of their false teachings, you will be literally shunned. You family that remain in the organization will not be permitted to even talk to you!

The Watchtower Society is the only source of truth on earth today and your soul will be destroyed if you refuse their organization.

The Watchtower Society and its followers are all prophets of God today and the Governing Body is directed by angels from God.

The Watchtower and Awake magazines originate with and are treated as equal to the Bible.
They deny the that God consists of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

They deny the deity of Christ (Arian view) Jesus is a created being also called Michael the archangel, and was the first and only direct creation of God.

Jesus was not the Christ (Messiah) until age 30, even though their own bible says in Luke 2:11, "because there was born to you today a savior, who is Christ the Lord."

They deny the bodily resurrection. After Jesus was buried in the tomb, Jehovah dissolved his body into gases and it disappeared forever.
Jesus rose invisibly in three days, so Jehovah had to "materialize" a fake body for him complete with fake nail prints so His disciples would believe it was really Jesus risen.

They deny the personality of the Holy Spirit (viewed by the Watchtower organization as "God's active force", similar to radio waves)
They deny man consciously survives death.

They teach the eternal punishment of the lost is annihilation.
They deny the bodily, visible return of Christ (Christ's "return" was only His "turning his attention" invisibly toward earth in 1914, and there was an invisible "rapture" of the dead members of the 144,000 in 1918.)

The cross is a pagan symbol of sex worship, and that all buildings or persons displaying the cross are likewise pagan. Jehovah's Witnesses deny that Jesus died on a cross but a stake. However, recent "new light" in the Watchtower now admits they are not certain about the cross, but will continue to deny it anyway.
Further, the watchtower originally claimed it was a cross.

No one goes to heaven but 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses.
They teach Christ is the mediator for only the 144,000, not the average Jw.
Teach only the 144,000 must be "born again", not the average Jw.

Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob etc. were to be back on earth as perfect humans in 1925. The Society built a palatial home called "Beth Sarim" for them BUT when the patriarchs failed to show up, the President of the Society moved in.

Their light gets "brighter and brighter", allowing for many changes and "about faces" on their doctrines. Yesterday's error is today's "truth". Often the "light" bounces back and forth from old to new views and back again! (Might we call this discarded truth... "black Light"?)

Blood transfusions are rejected and if a Witness receives one willingly, it results in his eternal death. However, the society allows Hemopheliacs to consume blood for medical purposes to save their life.

To salute the flag is an act of idolatry.
Participation in any civil holidays, mothers day, birthdays brings condemnation of God.

Only persons who use the true name of God, Jehovah, will have their prayers heard by God. No salvation is possible without using the name "Jehovah."

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.bible.ca/Jw-Wont-Tell.htm&ved=2ahUKEwiAoKmOyprdAhVPNMAKHW4YBiIQFjABegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2fGCXMn-PJdZq2bz2x5UXI

Could such a group be truly witnesses for God or against God, especially Jesus Christ?.

Every teaching of this group in some way attacks either the person of Jesus Christ or His work of grace. Otherwise, why do they deny and make mockery of the Holy communion, even when Jesus commanded that it be done often in remembrance of Him?.
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Shelumiel: 9:06pm On Sep 01, 2018
Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians; they are a cult .
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by alBHAGDADI: 9:15pm On Sep 01, 2018
JW are a big time cult filled with brainwashed Antichrists.
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by thesicilian: 9:23pm On Sep 01, 2018
Let's all work on our own salvation instead of focusing too much on others.



Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? - Matthew 7:3 (NIV)

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Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by alBHAGDADI: 9:30pm On Sep 01, 2018
thesicilian:
Let's all work on our own salvation instead of focusing too much on others.

If you know the rate at which those heretic JW focus on other Christians, then you won't be saying this. Their watchtower and Awake magazines are always targeted at Christianity while they claim to be the only Christians.

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Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by OneJ: 9:32pm On Sep 01, 2018
Primesky:
The bible tells us one major characteristic of the anti Christ, and that is denying that Jesus came in the flesh.

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.


Jehovah's Witnesses deny the physical resurrection of Jesus from the dead. This is another radical departure from historic Christian teaching. The Watchtower Society maintains that the Lord's resurrection was purely spiritual and only appeared as physical.

Is this not another way of denying that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh?. This and many more leaves so much questions to be answered as to who this group of people truly are and who they actually believe in.

If you become a JW and then leave them because of their false teachings, you will be literally shunned. You family that remain in the organization will not be permitted to even talk to you!

The Watchtower Society is the only source of truth on earth today and your soul will be destroyed if you refuse their organization.

The Watchtower Society and its followers are all prophets of God today and the Governing Body is directed by angels from God.

The Watchtower and Awake magazines originate with and are treated as equal to the Bible.
They deny the that God consists of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

They deny the deity of Christ (Arian view) Jesus is a created being also called Michael the archangel, and was the first and only direct creation of God.

Jesus was not the Christ (Messiah) until age 30, even though their own bible says in Luke 2:11, "because there was born to you today a savior, who is Christ the Lord."

They deny the bodily resurrection. After Jesus was buried in the tomb, Jehovah dissolved his body into gases and it disappeared forever.
Jesus rose invisibly in three days, so Jehovah had to "materialize" a fake body for him complete with fake nail prints so His disciples would believe it was really Jesus risen.

They deny the personality of the Holy Spirit (viewed by the Watchtower organization as "God's active force", similar to radio waves)
They deny man consciously survives death.

They teach the eternal punishment of the lost is annihilation.
They deny the bodily, visible return of Christ (Christ's "return" was only His "turning his attention" invisibly toward earth in 1914, and there was an invisible "rapture" of the dead members of the 144,000 in 1918.)

The cross is a pagan symbol of sex worship, and that all buildings or persons displaying the cross are likewise pagan. Jehovah's Witnesses deny that Jesus died on a cross but a stake. However, recent "new light" in the Watchtower now admits they are not certain about the cross, but will continue to deny it anyway.
Further, the watchtower originally claimed it was a cross.

No one goes to heaven but 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses.
They teach Christ is the mediator for only the 144,000, not the average Jw.
Teach only the 144,000 must be "born again", not the average Jw.

Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob etc. were to be back on earth as perfect humans in 1925. The Society built a palatial home called "Beth Sarim" for them BUT when the patriarchs failed to show up, the President of the Society moved in.

Their light gets "brighter and brighter", allowing for many changes and "about faces" on their doctrines. Yesterday's error is today's "truth". Often the "light" bounces back and forth from old to new views and back again! (Might we call this discarded truth... "black Light"?)

Blood transfusions are rejected and if a Witness receives one willingly, it results in his eternal death. However, the society allows Hemopheliacs to consume blood for medical purposes to save their life.

To salute the flag is an act of idolatry.
Participation in any civil holidays, mothers day, birthdays brings condemnation of God.

Only persons who use the true name of God, Jehovah, will have their prayers heard by God. No salvation is possible without using the name "Jehovah."

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.bible.ca/Jw-Wont-Tell.htm&ved=2ahUKEwiAoKmOyprdAhVPNMAKHW4YBiIQFjABegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2fGCXMn-PJdZq2bz2x5UXI

Could such a group be truly witnesses for God or against God, especially Jesus Christ?.

Every teaching of this group in some way attacks either the person of Jesus Christ or His work of grace. Otherwise, why do they deny and make mockery of the Holy communion, even when Jesus commanded that it be done often in remembrance of Him?.

Mumu posts littered with half truths & bigotry . Anti JW virus done corrupt una brain finish.
alBAHGDADI (in another thread) saw & read the definition of "begotten" coupled with scriptures which proves beyond doubt that Christ was created by God, the guy deny am jejeli.
Una wan fry beans & drink madquinine for JW matter.

U point one finger at JWs, four others points back at U.
Pls keep it up deary.
Shalom.

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Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by HappyPagan: 9:37pm On Sep 01, 2018
Shelumiel:
Jehovah's witnesses are not Christians; they are a cult .
What makes a cult?
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Shelumiel: 10:11pm On Sep 01, 2018
HappyPagan:

What makes a cult?
Before answering, I would like to ask if you are a Jehovah's witness .
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by alBHAGDADI: 6:58am On Sep 02, 2018
OneJ:


Mumu posts littered with half truths & bigotry . Anti JW virus done corrupt una brain finish.
alBAHGDADI (in another thread) saw & read the definition of "begotten" coupled with scriptures which proves beyond doubt that Christ was created by God, the guy deny am jejeli.
Una wan fry beans & drink madquinine for JW matter.

U point one finger at JWs, four others points back at U.
Pls keep it up deary.
Shalom.

Guy, where did I deny what?

I use scripture to divide scripture to show that when Only Begotten is used, it is not talking about creation or giving birth, but you refused to accept my point. Yet, I find it funny how you believed I accepted yours.

You JW love to take scriptures out of context. You Proverbs 8:22-30 are talking about Jesus being created, yet the beginning of the chapter shows it is all about WISDOM and not Jesus. As a matter of fact, wisdom was personified as a woman in the chapter. Yet, in your fraudulent NWT bible version, you changed it to suit your theology of falsehood. Where wisdom is referred to as HER, you changed it to IT. You are afraid that if you put it as SHE, then people will discover the context of the passage that it is not about Jesus. So you changed it to IT, which is an insult to Jesus because he is not an IT neither is he a SHE.

What you don't know when you say God created wisdom is that you have successfully stated that God lacked wisdom until he brought it forth. Whereas Wisdom is one of His attributes.

Now, if you say God brought forth wisdom, then do you agree that what you are saying is that he had no wisdom before?

Isn't that insulting?
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Hairyrapunzel: 7:08am On Sep 02, 2018
OneJ:


Mumu posts littered with half truths & bigotry . Anti JW virus done corrupt una brain finish.
alBAHGDADI (in another thread) saw & read the definition of "begotten" coupled with scriptures which proves beyond doubt that Christ was created by God, the guy deny am jejeli.
Una wan fry beans & drink madquinine for JW matter.

U point one finger at JWs, four others points back at U.
Pls keep it up deary.
Shalom.


You will soon start justifying why your beliefs are the way he described it to be while calling him a liar. Lol
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by alBHAGDADI: 7:09am On Sep 02, 2018
OneJ:


U point one finger at JWs, four others points back at U.
Pls keep it up deary.
Shalom.


The same way you Watchtower and Awake magazines point one finger at the catholic church, yet they have four pointing back at them. They accuse the Catholic church of pedophilia, yet they have same being covered up in their midst. They can't publish a book without mentioning the pope, Catholic church or Christendom.

Ask a JW to tell you why they don't publicize against Islam which has been identified as an Antichrist religion based on the Bible, the Quran and how they persecute Christians, he will never have an answer. But tell him to tell you about the Catholic Church or Christendom, he will not only tire you with words, but will also give you books targeted against them.
.They will never question Islam. The moment Christendom successfully convert a pagan or Islamic country, you will find those heretic JW going there to try to convert those new Christians into JW.

This person I quoted will gladly stop talking to his blood sister the moment she questions their JW doctrine.

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Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by OneJ: 10:46am On Sep 02, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
Guy, where did I deny what?

I use scripture to divide scripture to show that when Only Begotten is used, it is not talking about creation or giving birth, but you refused to accept my point. Yet, I find it funny how you believed I accepted yours.

You JW love to take scriptures out of context. You Proverbs 8:22-30 are talking about Jesus being created, yet the beginning of the chapter shows it is all about WISDOM and not Jesus. As a matter of fact, wisdom was personified as a woman in the chapter. Yet, in your fraudulent NWT bible version, you changed it to suit your theology of falsehood. Where wisdom is referred to as HER, you changed it to IT. You are afraid that if you put it as SHE, then people will discover the context of the passage that it is not about Jesus. So you changed it to IT, which is an insult to Jesus because he is not an IT neither is he a SHE.

What you don't know when you say God created wisdom is that you have successfully stated that God lacked wisdom until he brought it forth. Whereas Wisdom is one of His attributes.

Now, if you say God brought forth wisdom, then do you agree that what you are saying is that he had no wisdom before?

Isn't that insulting?

Are U confused ? Yahweh is the source of wisdom, therefore, he brought forth (created) wisdom.

Wisdom is an abstract quality ,personified in Proverbs 8.
Guy, no dey deceive yourself, in Hebrew language ,it doesn't matter if U call wisdom. "it" or she", (cure your ignorance & lies.Google is your friend, go & research on it).. But U think in English & U now deceptively apply English grammar nuances to explain the abstract concept of wisdom in PROVERBS chapter8.

Jesus Christ is "the wisdom of God" & "the wisdom from God". 1 Cor1: 24-30.

"Yahweh produced me ("created me" ,brought me forth", formed me"wink as the first of his works"
Jesus Christ ("the wisdom from God"wink was begotten by the source of wisdom, Jehovah his Father. Prov 8:22-30.

Jesus is not the ALMIGHTY God ,his Fathe. Your lies are lifeless....
Shalom .
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by alBHAGDADI: 11:56am On Sep 02, 2018
OneJ:


Are U confused ? Yahweh is the source of wisdom, therefore, he brought forth (created) wisdom.

Wisdom is an abstract quality ,personified in Proverbs 8.
Guy, no dey deceive yourself, in Hebrew language ,it doesn't matter if U call wisdom. "it" or she", (cure your ignorance & lies.Google is your friend, go & research on it).. But U think in English & U now deceptively apply English grammar nuances to explain the abstract concept of wisdom in PROVERBS chapter8.

Jesus Christ is "the wisdom of God" & "the wisdom from God". 1 Cor1: 24-30.

"Yahweh produced me ("created me" ,brought me forth", formed me"wink as the first of his works"
Jesus Christ ("the wisdom from God"wink was begotten by the source of wisdom, Jehovah his Father. Prov 8:22-30.

Jesus is not the ALMIGHTY God ,his Fathe. Your lies are lifeless....
Shalom .
You love to act smart by referring to Hebrew and Greek. Whether it is an "it" or a "she", none of them can be used to qualify Jesus because he is not a she or an it.

The writer of the book of Proverbs constantly referred to wisdom as a woman. The book always use feminine terms to explain wisdom. But you JW changed those terms in your own false Bible. Whenever wisdom is described using SHE or HER, you change it to IT, and it's all because of your agenda. But you couldn't change the verse below, which exposes your dubiousness.


"Say to wisdom, 'You are my sister,'" ( Proverbs 7:4 , NWT).

Are you JW now saying that we should call Jesus our sister? Gladly, here again wisdom is described using feminist term SISTER. This explains what I said earlier that wisdom is personified as a woman.

Proverbs 8 isn't talking about Jesus

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Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Primesky(m): 12:30pm On Sep 02, 2018
OneJ:


Mumu posts littered with half truths & bigotry . Anti JW virus done corrupt una brain finish.
alBAHGDADI (in another thread) saw & read the definition of "begotten" coupled with scriptures which proves beyond doubt that Christ was created by God, the guy deny am jejeli.
Una wan fry beans & drink madquinine for JW matter.

U point one finger at JWs, four others points back at U.
Pls keep it up deary.
Shalom.


Very good!. That's the Antichrist spirit we are talking about. Who ever says Jesus was 'created'?. Absolute falsehood, and these lies of yours will continue to be exposed.

Jesus commanded us to observe the holy communion, you people make jest of it, and deny it. Are you then for Christ?. Jesus said He will rise bodily, you people said no He never rose bodily, so which Jesus are you people preaching about?. Jesus said no body knows when He will return, and when He returns, He will be seen physically by all men, yet, you people said He came since 1914 in spirit, who is lying, Jesus and the Bible or watch tower?. I just pray you see the truth and come out of that cult regardless of how enticing it appears. Shalom!.

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Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by budaatum: 1:04pm On Sep 02, 2018
Primesky:


Very good!. That's the Antichrist spirit we are talking about.
Black pots and kettles arguing about colour!
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Primesky(m): 1:09pm On Sep 02, 2018
thesicilian:
Let's all work on our own salvation instead of focusing too much on others.


Very correct, but it is wickedness to see a brother in a fault, and not correct or direct him. This is not to condemn them, but to show them the lies and false teachings they're meant to believe. I think some of them are ignorant of these falsehood.
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Primesky(m): 1:12pm On Sep 02, 2018
budaatum:

Black pots and kettles arguing about colour!

Without Christ Jesus, you're not safe!. Repent and receive Jesus Christ today.
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by budaatum: 1:51pm On Sep 02, 2018
Primesky:


Without Christ Jesus, you're not safe!. Repent and receive Jesus Christ today.
Not safe from what, exactly?
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Anas09: 2:43pm On Sep 02, 2018
OneJ:


Mumu posts littered with half truths & bigotry . Anti JW virus done corrupt una brain finish.
alBAHGDADI (in another thread) saw & read the definition of "begotten" coupled with scriptures which proves beyond doubt that Christ was created by God, the guy deny am jejeli.
Una wan fry beans & drink madquinine for JW matter.

U point one finger at JWs, four others points back at U.
Pls keep it up deary.
Shalom.

But, on a serious note, you people don't believe that the Lord Jesus was raised bodily? I never hear this one before.
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Anas09: 2:45pm On Sep 02, 2018
Shelumiel:
Before answering, I would like to ask if you are a Jehovah's witness .
Take a clue from his .moniker. He worships African demons who manifests as ancestors.
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by alBHAGDADI: 2:48pm On Sep 02, 2018
Anas09:

But, on a serious note, you people don't believe that the Lord Jesus was raised bodily? I never hear this one before.

They also believe Jesus is angel Michael grin
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by HappyPagan: 3:33pm On Sep 02, 2018
Anas09:

Take a clue from his .moniker. He worships African demons who manifests as ancestors.

Ignorance has made a meal of your mind. You're completely empty of anything human, only ancient thoughts from the past fill your head. It's unfortunate that you'd never know what a mind is... you've never had one.... wink

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Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Anas09: 5:13pm On Sep 02, 2018
HappyPagan:


Ignorance has made a meal of your mind. You're completely empty of anything human, only ancient thoughts from the past fill your head. It's unfortunate that you'd never know what a mind is... you've never had one.... wink
What is a mind?
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Anas09: 5:14pm On Sep 02, 2018
alBHAGDADI:

They also believe Jesus is angel Michael grin
I know this and they call Him a god
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by HappyPagan: 7:26pm On Sep 02, 2018
Anas09:

What is a mind?
How would you know?
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Anas09: 8:11pm On Sep 02, 2018
HappyPagan:
How would you know?
Is this your final answer?
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by caye(m): 9:06pm On Sep 02, 2018
I AM GREATLY AFRAID OF NIGERIAN CHRISTIANS
With all I see here, I think some nairaland Christians are no different from ISIS/AlQaeda.

They might not kill you with guns, but wish evil happens to you in their minds; while ISIS kills you with weapons.

All because of differences in interpretation of the fanatical alphabets of the 2 tribes of the children of Abraham.

For God's sake, why call JWs ' Antichrist' in order to demonize them?
N.B: I am not a JW.
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Primesky(m): 9:08pm On Sep 02, 2018
budaatum:

Not safe from what, exactly?

The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. If you don't have Jesus Christ, you're in danger. It is not fear mongering.
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Anas09: 9:16pm On Sep 02, 2018
OneJ:


Are U confused ? Yahweh is the source of wisdom, therefore, he brought forth (created) wisdom.

Wisdom is an abstract quality ,personified in Proverbs 8.
Guy, no dey deceive yourself, in Hebrew language ,it doesn't matter if U call wisdom. "it" or she", (cure your ignorance & lies.Google is your friend, go & research on it).. But U think in English & U now deceptively apply English grammar nuances to explain the abstract concept of wisdom in PROVERBS chapter8.

Jesus Christ is "the wisdom of God" & "the wisdom from God". 1 Cor1: 24-30.

"Yahweh produced me ("created me" ,brought me forth", formed me"wink as the first of his works"
Jesus Christ ("the wisdom from God"wink was begotten by the source of wisdom, Jehovah his Father. Prov 8:22-30.

Jesus is not the ALMIGHTY God ,his Fathe. Your lies are lifeless....
Shalom .
Meaning Jesus is your sister abi?
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by budaatum: 9:16pm On Sep 02, 2018
Primesky:


The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. If you don't have Jesus Christ, you're in danger. It is not fear mongering.
It is fear mongering! And I fear not! You have no evidence whatsoever for this so called "eternal life" you live in fear of not attaining. And life on this earth and the amazing things one could get on with rather take up so much of the time I have that I don't see the benefit of bothering about whatever might happen to me once I'm dead. Doing so would be considering myself lower than the birds and the bees. I'd rather leave such bothers to the gods, if there are any. But since there aren't any. I'd rather get on with living, thank you, than bother what happens after I'm dead.
Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Anas09: 9:28pm On Sep 02, 2018
caye:
I AM GREATLY AFRAID OF NIGERIAN CHRISTIANS
With all I see here, I think some nairaland Christians are no different from ISIS/AlQaeda.

They might not kill you with guns, but wish evil happens to you in their minds; while ISIS kills you with weapons.

All because of differences in interpretation of the fanatical alphabets of the 2 tribes of the children of Abraham.

For God's sake, why call JWs ' Antichrist' in order to demonize them?
N.B: I am not a JW.
Which is worst? Allow error to continue thereby leading many to hell or speak up against it and save souls from hell?

Funny enough, you have no idea how much time these people put into demonising the Catholic Church. As the ISIS spend time talking against Christians and Jews that is how the JW spend time talking about the Catholics and other Christian. They are studying with an elderly neighbor in my compound. You need to hear them castigate other Christians. This man is not a Catholic, what shd bring Catholicism into their study? but always, the Catholic Church did this or that. Never Islam did anything.

Note, i am not a Catholic. I can not go out for an outreach and leave to talk abt Jesus but abt JW. why shd they be given such relevance?

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