The primesky of a guy is very disorganized, Tackle topics in An orderly manner .

OneJ:
@ Primesky,
1 Peter 3:19,20 must be read & studied together or U miss the message in it.
Gen 6:1-4,Jude 1:6 , 1 Peter 3:19,20 to understand Peter's epistle.
1 kings22:20,21 "a spirit" mentioned there is actually the angel who volunteered to go on that mission stated in both verses.

(Yahweh) makes his angels spirits,his ministers a flaming fire" Ps104:4.
"Are not all angels ministering spirits....? Hebrew 1:14.

In Job 27:3, what is the spirit of God in Job's nostrils being referred to?
The Bible says " Yahweh breathed into his nostrils, the breath of life and the man became a living soul ". Gen 2:7.

U don't seem to understand matt 26:41. pls read& study Romans 7:15-21. Gal 5:17.
It's obvious U have a shallow understanding of how the word "spirit" is used in various Bible verses & what it's real meaning is , in those verses.
Pls cast away your prejudices & study God's word with JWs.... U have so much to learn, I tell U !
Shalom

Obviously, you are the one twisting the scriptures!. Did I not tell you in my last response, that spirit as used in scripture represents either an angel, breath, strength/energy, God's Holy Spirit or man's spirit, and that which one refered to in any given verse depends on the context of that verse?.

Did you or did you not see that?.

After all you quoted above, I will just like you to explain
The passage I also gave you in that response. Here it is again.

Zechariah 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

Can you explain the above please?. How does God form the spirit of man within him(man), like He formed Adam from the dust of the ground?.

Then please objectively explain the following.

Isaiah 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

Please explain, why the distinction between giving breath and giving spirit to men, if breath and spirit here are the same?.

Ezekiel 11:5 And the Spirit of the LORD fell upon me, and said unto me, Speak; Thus saith the LORD; Thus have ye said, O house of Israel: for I know the things that come into your mind, every one of them.

Please read the above verse carefully, and tell me who actually SPOKE to Ezekiel, is this person different from God?. If this is a person, and He is a spirit of a person, why can't man made in the image of God, after God's likeness and nature, have spirit?. Please explain. Thank you.

OneJ:


OP, present the proof that Mr C.T. Russell "instructed" where the. "pyramid was built" or shut up.
U have only made false allegations U were yet to prove. The burden of proof is on U.
"The Grand Lodge of British Columbia & Yukon has said that Russell was not a Freemason & notes that these symbols under discussion used are not exclusive to freemasonry but pre- dates the fraternity "
Russell "believed that Christian identity is incompatible with Freemason"
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell



OP, U are a LIAR.

Shame no even let you call your founder pastor Russell. Lol

So your founder was answering pastor while he was on earth? Buhaha I no fit laff

CAPTIVATOR:
The primesky of a guy is very disorganized, Tackle topics in An orderly manner .

What do you mean by orderly. Can you elaborate?.

OneJ:


1) Jehovah never sentenced Adam to eternal torture as punishment Gen 3:19. the same precedent he set with destruction of the flood of Noah's day, Sodom& Gomorrah. Jude 1:5-7. How many years was Sodom & Gomorrah in eternal fire? Hellfire does not exist. Believe what U wish.

2) Luke 22:19, u already know that JWs commemorate the Lord's memorial (the Lord's Evening Meal) annually. Christ never did it weekly.

3) Visit jw.org & read up what JWs believe about the subject matter of 1914. No come here dey lie...

4) Don't confuse yourself. The word "spirit" in James 2:26, Eccl 3:21, 12:7 is not the same as holy spirit.
Each day,we hear on radio, "the newspaper reported.." the newspaper said.."
Does it in any way suggest that the newspaper is a person?
How many spirits were poured out to 120 disciples at Pentecost?

5) Luke 24:13-37, study& digest it) that's were the real coco dey, hanging on to vs 38,39 shows a poor &shallow understanding of the truth. The disciples knew Christ very well. Yet found it hard to recognize him after he resurrected..., why ? Luke 24:13-37 tells U something vital u have missed.
Or U should explain 1 Cor 15:42-47.

Why do you guys like assuming?
Why do you guys like thinking for Jesus and jehovah?
You people always make a claim that Jesus or jehovah was trying to say something when the bible never mentions it.
Why so much speculation based on assumption in your religion?

OneJ:
@ Primesky,
1 Peter 3:19,20 must be read & studied together or U miss the message in it.
Gen 6:1-4,Jude 1:6 , 1 Peter 3:19,20 to understand Peter's epistle.
1 kings22:20,21 "a spirit" mentioned there is actually the angel who volunteered to go on that mission stated in both verses.

(Yahweh) makes his angels spirits,his ministers a flaming fire" Ps104:4.
"Are not all angels ministering spirits....? Hebrew 1:14.

In Job 27:3, what is the spirit of God in Job's nostrils being referred to?
The Bible says " Yahweh breathed into his nostrils, the breath of life and the man became a living soul ". Gen 2:7.

U don't seem to understand matt 26:41. pls read& study Romans 7:15-21. Gal 5:17.
It's obvious U have a shallow understanding of how the word "spirit" is used in various Bible verses & what it's real meaning is , in those verses.
Pls cast away your prejudices & study God's word with JWs.... U have so much to learn, I tell U !
Shalom

You are a big liar. You muddle up verses and say in your head that those verses must be read together so as to understand them.

You vision and mission is to always assume.

See how you are saying please read and study like you read and study the verses when we know in your religion it is a crime to read the bible without watchtower magazine. Mtchewww

IBERIBEISM & anti JW virus done finish your brain & your life. Mumu no fit put even one scripture to prove your mumu claims. Go read all your posts & replies to them. Eee done tayy wey NL online community know say your problem no get cure. Mumu for life

OneJ:
IBERIBEISM & anti JW virus done finish your brain & your life.
Mumu no fit put even one scripture to prove your mumu claims.
Go read all your posts & replies to them.
Eee done tayy wey NL online community know say your problem no get cure.
Mumu for life

So last last Bible did not show that for you to understand Matt 26:41 you have to read Romans 7:15-21 and gal 5: 17 neither did Bible say Gen 6:1-4,Jude 1:6 , 1 Peter 3:19,20 must be read together to understand Peter's epistle. Rotflol

I don't need a Bible verse to know this. So because Bible did not state this we should now all agree with your assumption and speculation right?
Every right thinking human being knows the mumu. Want to force your doctrine to be accepted so you always assume. When you read the whole chapter of the verses you quoted you will see that they are all different stories.

Person wey dey normal when think and dey wish say e all loving Jehovah go slaughter 99.9% of earth's population because them no free join one new York based publishing company called watchtower organisation and no gree obey 8 men for new York when say them no dey inspired and dem dey fallible say them dey make mistake for doctrine matters and how dem dey direct their company. Lol

OneJ:
IBERIBEISM & anti JW virus done finish your brain & your life.
Mumu no fit put even one scripture to prove your mumu claims.
Go read all your posts & replies to them.
Eee done tayy wey NL online community know say your problem no get cure.
Mumu for life

Being a mumu better than believing and wishing that a Jehovah will come a gruesomely murder 8 billion people so that 8 million people will live forever in a paradise earth that dey described and drew in their magazines.

Like I said in your new system you will step on so many dead bodies, you won't breath fresh air because your paradise earth will stink forever of dead bodies, then after those vultures finish eating their bodies you will keep seeing their skeletons so as to remind you of the genocide committed by your jehovah. Then after all these you guys will suffer from PTSD, depression, anxiety and bipolar disorders.

Primesky:

Please can you for once stop misinterpreting scriptures to suit your religion?.
Stop saying things against what Jesus said.
Did Jesus ever make these statements?.
Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Please answer the above.
Then saying the devils do not know what punishment awaits them, are you saying what you think or are you saying what is in the bible?.
Matthew 8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Does the above passages in any way suggest that the fate of the fallen angels and sinful men is unknown?. Do you read the bible more than the devils do?.
Now, if all the above doesn't convince you, then look at this below.
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Who was everlasting fire prepared for?. Will man eventually end up there?.
What does everlasting and forever mean according to the dictionary?.
Please stop twisting the truth.
As for the passage in Jeremiah you quoted, please go back to that passage and read up the preceding verses to know what God was actually taking about.
This people where sacrificing their children to idols by burning them in fire. Meanwhile, as at that time, the only thing God permitted to be so sacrificed to Him was animals and grains NOT human beings!. That's why He said that (burning your children in fire for me) didn't come into my mind. O boy, stop trying to make God a lair na. Fear God O.

This is the reason why all of you are envious of Jehovah's Witnesses. Because you only read the Bible texts without getting the practical applications of what you read.
When we're preaching and teaching people with points that's reaching their hearts,you become troubled and start looking for ways to discredit our activities.
Peter clearly wrote it that there are SACRED SECRETS regarding God's kingdom that ANGELS are "desiring to know". 1Peter 3:15
Certainly, there is nothing that concerns the Angels that have kept their position since they have no problem regarding punishment or the end. But it is the angels who have forsaken their original assignment given to them that are no more updated about what will happen,when it will happen and how it will happen to them. 2Peter 2:4
Well if you're willing to learn,that's why God's word said they are in DARKNESS! Jude 6
We know you guys truthfully have burning zeal for God but not according to ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE(Romans
10:2,3) that's why your hearts are troubled whenever we have come to give meaningful and practical applications of what is written in our book(Bible). Sorry my friend, from Genesis to Revelations was written by Jehovah's Witnesses. Though you may find it really hard to agree but that's the truth,so if you're not willing to humble yourself before us you can never gain the ACCURATE understanding of our book(Bible). And you'll notice that even though you know quite well that Jesus commanded His disciples to KEEP preaching and teaching people, you'll never be able to do it with orderliness and zeal like God's own people(Jehovah's Witnesses) Isaiah 54:17

TATIME:
This is the reason why all of you are envious of Jehovah's Witnesses. Because you only read the Bible texts without getting the practical applications of what you read.
When we're preaching and teaching people with points that's reaching their hearts,you become troubled and start looking for ways to discredit our activities.
Peter clearly wrote it that there are SACRED SECRETS regarding God's kingdom that ANGELS are "desiring to know". 1Peter 3:15
Certainly, there is nothing that concerns the Angels that have kept their position since they have no problem regarding punishment or the end. But it is the angels who have forsaken their original assignment given to them that are no more updated about what will happen,when it will happen and how it will happen to them. 2Peter 2:4
Well if you're willing to learn,that's why God's word said they are in DARKNESS! Jude 6
We know you guys truthfully have burning zeal for God but not according to ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE(Romans
10:2,3) that's why your hearts are troubled whenever we have come to give meaningful and practical applications of what is written in our book(Bible). Sorry my friend, from Genesis to Revelations was written by Jehovah's Witnesses. Though you may find it really hard to agree but that's the truth,so if you're not willing to humble yourself before us you can never gain the ACCURATE understanding of our book(Bible). And you'll notice that even though you know quite well that Jesus commanded His disciples to KEEP preaching and teaching people, you'll never be able to do it with orderliness and zeal like God's own people(Jehovah's Witnesses) Isaiah 54:17

Please stop this monumental lies already!. Don't you at least fear God?. You in defence of fraud, will out rightly go against God. This is dangerous!, may God have mercy on your soul.

For your information, the bible was written by faithful men of God as the Holy Spirit of God gave them inspiration. You guys are witnessing for something totally different, because you twist the word of God, deny the word of God, and in every way seek to undermine the person of Jesus Christ!. You better come out of the cult and save your soul.

2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

See how you shamelessly and boldly twisted the fact in the verse above to suggest that being kept in chains of darkness meant to be out of the know, not to talk of the fact that you didn't mention hell also in that verse.

You falsely claimed the fallen angels do not know when and how their punishment will be, yet the bible says totally a different thing.

Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.


Excuse me Mr. TATIME, how could the devil know he has a short time?. The bible says so, you said he and His colleagues don't, who is lying?.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.


Mr. TATIME, you said the fallen angels do not know how they will be punished, do you mean to say that they don't or they can't read the bible at least to see these fearful description of their doom?. Don't forget that when Jesus was being tempted by the devil, the devil was the one quoting the bible and saying what God said in it. Who exactly do you think you are representing with all this twisted lies you churn out?.

Peter in the passage above tells you of how the Holy and
faithful angels of God are also eager to see the wonderful future God has planned. But they can't because it is not yet there for them to see. But the Holy Spirit relate it to us. We have the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of us, unfortunately I don't think you do, because you don't believe in Him.

Nobody can tell what we would look like or how we will appear, but the bible says we would be like Jesus. Who can imagine that, not even the angels can. Everyone is curious to see what we will be like. Only God by his Holy Spirit can possibly reveal that to you.

Once again, I urge you to desist from peddling lies against God and the bible.