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ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM? by enemyofprogress: 3:42am On Oct 10, 2018
No doubt both candidates above are formidable in their own right, but let's look at their individual strength; *this is purely my personal analysis*. Though I would have preferred a Dakwambo or a Tambuwal, but when the desirable is not available the available becomes the desirable. *This is not about social media noise of SAI BABA but the reality on ground!*

Let's consider the following points; why Atiku has a better advantage.

1. Atiku and Buhari are both Muslims and full blooded Fulanis, so the Hausa-Fulani ethnic stock, won't be concerned on who emerges.

2. The Northern Elders forum will always go for Atiku. Recall in 2007/2011, when the Northern Elders chaired by the late Ciroma, was faced with who to choose between Atiku, Aliyu Gusau, Buhari and Saraki, they unanimously choose Atiku; check records.

3. Integrity; Atiku has integrity issues so has Buhari; Before 2015, Buhari was viewed as a saint and has cult followership, but since, he was given that opportunity, he has not been able to deliver anything meaningful. Change sermon has seriously depleted and doesn't ring bell anymore. Besides Intels, Halliburton & Siemens scandal, APC doesn't have much against Atiku.

4. The Caliphate and Emirate council have withdrawn their support from Buhari. Recall that the Sultan of Sokoto was amongst the first to congratulate Tambuwal during his defection from APC  to PDP. The Emir of Kano has always been an Ally of Atiku and he has been vocal against the misgovernance of this administration. Go and Write it down, once the Sultanate and Emirate is against your ambition in the core North, just go and rest.

5. Virtually all Notable religious leader in the North is against Buhari from Sheik Gumi, El ZakZaky, etc. They have been going everywhere campaigning against Buhari, regretting while they voted against Jonathan.

6. Military Establishment from Danjuma, IBB, Abdusalam, etc are already scared that PMB will turn into full scale dictatorship if re-elected. Besides OBJ, who may reconcile with Atiku in the next coming days, they will prefer anybody but PMB.

7. APC is currently in shambles right now. Consequent upon the primaries which is still going on as I write. Aisha Buhari has cried out, Governors Yari, Bello, Amosun, Akeredolu, El Rufai, etc are threatening brimstone and fire. I don't envy Oshiomole at all. Almost all the states APC is in control are having major crisis resulting from the conduct of the primaries. Adams automatic tickets to loyal Senators has backfired. Okorocha just returned himself and his son-in-law as Senatorial and guber aspirants respectively. And so on and so forth. I see this challenges snowball into unmanageable monumental crisis.
PDP to my astonishment achieved almost 90% rancour free primaries! And they will reap abundantly from the APC crisis!

8. Atiku political foray started more than 30years ago. You can see how he earlier rejected PH as venue for the convention, but later accepted and beat Wike to his game. The reason Atiku has not won the Presidency is because he has never emerged the candidate of a major National political party; ACN then was just a regional party. *With almost a limitless and unmatchable financial war chest, he will deploy his financial arsenal, knowing this is his last shot at the Presidency* I doubt if any politician as prepared as him.

9. The average Northerner likes power so much, whether they benefit or not. They know if PMB wins he has just 4 years, but if Atiku wins he might have 8 years. *I tell you with their penchant for love of power they might tilt towards Atiku because of another 8years!*

10. Recall that Atiku inherited the late Shehu Yaradua political machinery the SDM; even in Katsina he is loved because of this relationship. Most SDM members in other political parties will work for him. The roll call includes; IBB, Orji Uzor Kalu, Tony Anenih, Kingibe, Ibori, Lamido, Aliyu, etc.

11. The business establishment like banks, conglomerates, oil majors, magnates, business moguls, captains of industries, Importers/Exporters, etc will go for Atiku any day any time, you can take that to the bank

12. Religious bodies are already frustrated with PMB; There is no major Christian denomination who supported PMB in 2015, who are still with him now. From CAN, PFN, Oyedepo, Adeboye, Lazarus Mouka, Mbaka, Paul Enenche, Sulaiman, Bakare, etc has abandoned the change project. *Atiku will win majority Christian vote and divide Muslim vote with Buhari*

13. The Academia and the Labour movement have not hidden the direction they will go in 2019; it's almost anybody but Buhari.

14. Atiku's greatest selling point has been restructuring, but PMB doesn't even talk about it. The Southern and Middle Belt leaders will mobilise support for Atiku; Ohaneze, PANDEF, Afenifere, Middle Belt Forum, etc. Take my words to the bank!

15. Atiku will sweep votes from the North East; the sentiments are rife that no North-Eastern individual has ruled this country as President before! He will whip that sentiments massively. Watch Atiku, his propaganda campaign machinery might be second to none!

16. Just like PDP propaganda machine pushed PMB to victory in 2015, I see APC making a bigger blunder than PDP on Atiku. The way and manner they have started attacking Atiku even before campaign proper will eventually, endear Atiku more to the electorates. Remember how they lost Osun in the first round of voting regardless of the avalanche of attacks against Adeleke!

17. Geopolitical zonal permutations; SS & SE is already a given for Atiku. Atiku has always been a darling of the SW, besides the fact, that his most popular wife Titi is from there. In fact in the just concluded PDP National convention, the SW voted for him en block. Afenifere has been on the fore front of restructuring. In fact Pa Adebanjo, Reuben Fasoranti and Olu Falaye have said Atiku is the only candidate to implement restructuring. Middle Belt and North Central will go for Atiku. With the likes of IBB, Abdusalami, Saraki, Ortom, Useni, Mama Taraba, Mark, Gemade, Jonah Jang, etc leading the charge. They all believe Atiku is a moderate. NE is gone because of the earlier stated sentiments. NW votes will be splited; if Kwankwanso, Tambuwal, Lamido, Datti Ahmed, Turaki, Markafi, etc all agreed to work for Atiku, PMB will win NW, but Atiku will pick serious votes there. *Recall Zamfara is almost gone with Governor  Yari defection few days away*

Let me stop here before I start answering questions, I don't have answers for.

2019 is very interesting; Muslim VS Muslim, Fulani VS Fulani, Former APC VS current APC, North VS North, money versus more money.


These above are just my personal views and opinions.

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Re: ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM? by KanwuliaMama: 3:48am On Oct 10, 2018
ABSOLUTELY ON POINT!!!! kiss

FULANI FOR FULANI!!!!

4 MONTHS TO GO!
Choose LIFE AND PROGRESS!

REJECT LIFELESSNESS AND WAECLESSNESS/ILLITERACY! cheesy



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2rGfAwzFFw

Re: ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM? by KanwuliaMama: 3:58am On Oct 10, 2018
My take?

If I were ATIKU’s strategists. . . . I would recommend the following:

1. Concentrate on the NORTH FOR SUPPORT!
a)OP article don tok am finish! All the ELDERS OF THE NORTH DON SAY YES!
b)Atiku na CORE FULANI.
c)Buhari don FAIL KPATAKPATA!
d)Atiku na MAJOR PARTY presidential candidate. No more runner up .
e)All the ex-military don fashi BUHARI, checking Tinubu CLOSELY!
f)OBJ! Will soon shift mouth. . . . You can use him for his “mouth” only.

2. VP from SS. . . . Okonjo Iweala! SS is neutral.
a)WOMEN WILL VOTE FOR YOU! wink
b)She is some how SE too! wink To pacifier the “ndi-igbos”! tongue
c)No need to be torn between SE and SW for VP! Both tainted by APC!

3. FORGET SW! Let them WORK for you and EARN their respect in PDP! kiss
CALL OFF THEIR BLUFF!
a)They are MAJORLY TAINTED BY APC-Tinubu LOYALISTS, and will mostly be turncoats or MOLES!
b)Trust only PDP SW who have proven to be loyal with a standing record!
Re: ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM? by Nobody: 4:15am On Oct 10, 2018
KanwuliaMama:
My take?

If I were ATIKU’s strategists. . . . I would recommend the following:

1. Concentrate on the NORTH FOR SUPPORT!
a)OP article don tok am finish! All the ELDERS OF THE NORTH DON SAY YES!
b)Atiku na CORE FULANI.
c)Buhari don FAIL KPATAKPATA!
d)Atiku na MAJOR PARTY presidential candidate.



2. VP from SS. . . . Okonjo Iweala! SS is neutral.
a)WOMEN WILL VOTE FOR YOU! wink
b)She is some how SE too! wink To pacifier the “ndi-igbos”! tongue
c)No need to be torn between SE and SS for VP! Both equally tainted by APC!

3. FORGET SW! Let them WORK for you and EARN their respect in PDP! kiss
a)They are APC LOYALISTS and will mostly be turncoats or MOLES!
b)Trust only PDP SW who have proven to be loyal with a standing record!

People who hate Atiku are asking him to pick SW VP, and that will be his end.
Re: ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM? by KanwuliaMama: 4:26am On Oct 10, 2018
Awol1:


People who hate Atiku are asking him to pick SW VP, and that will be his end.

I AGREE!
Atiku should FORGET SW! Of no use! Let them SWEAT FOR IT!
SS, SE worked with the NORTH/MIDDLEBELT to re-steer PDP to produce ATIKU for 2019.
No meaningful SW influence in PDP except for FFK, Adeleke, or the new Agbaje?
Even FAYOSE is ?.

As for the EAST?
The SE PDP loyals are enough with the SS PDP loyals!
Let the SYCHOPHANTS work for their positions as they jump from party to party.

APC is banking on GODFATHERISM! The North does not play dat!
They might be in for a RUDE awakening! grin
Re: ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM? by Nobody: 4:33am On Oct 10, 2018
KanwuliaMama:



I AGREE!
Atiku should FORGET SW! Of no use! Let them SWEAT FOR IT!
SS worked with the NORTH/MIDDLEBELT to re-steer PDP.
No meaningful SW influence in PDP except for FFK, Adeleke, or the new Agbaje?
Even FAYOSE is ?.

As for the EAST?
The SE PDP loyals are enough with the SS PDP loyals!
Let the SYCHOPHANTS work for their positions as they jump from party to party.

APC is banking on GODFATHERISM! The North does not play dat!
They might be in for a RUDE awakening! grin

Aside these things you've mentioned, remember that since 1999, Igbo has not occupied any of the president's or vice president seat which the SW has gotten through OBJ, SS through GEJ.

It's only fair that SE is compensated and rewarded for loyalty.

Forget that Anambra and Imo are in other parties, we all know that they will vote for PDP.

There's no excuse.
Re: ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM? by KanwuliaMama: 4:45am On Oct 10, 2018
Awol1:


Aside these things you've mentioned, remember that since 1999, Igbo has not occupied any of the president's or vice president seat which the SW has gotten through OBJ, SS through GEJ.

It's only fair that SE is compensated and rewarded for loyalty.

Forget that Anambra and Imo are in other parties, we all know that they will vote for PDP.

There's no excuse.

You are right!
It would be wiser for Atiku to get a SE VP than a SW one.
I had thought it would have been better to match the Buhari-Osinbajo format.
No! SW does not deserve it! kiss

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Re: ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM? by Nobody: 4:51am On Oct 10, 2018
KanwuliaMama:


You are right!
It would be wiser for Atiku to get a SE VP than a SW one.
I had thought it would have been better to match the Buhari-Osinbajo format.
No! SW does not deserve it! kiss

Not at all.
Re: ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM? by KanwuliaMama: 4:55am On Oct 10, 2018
Awol1:


Not at all.

SE has 3 States in PDP, and SW? Zero!
WHY SHOULD THE VP COME FROM SW? undecided
Na JUJU? grin

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Re: ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM? by ipobarecriminals: 5:02am On Oct 10, 2018
undecided iyangbali. Let support baba daura to finish his 2nd term to avoid disruption of tenure.Dnt let Atiku deceive us with single term.Let the old man finish his 8 yrs then power can shift to SE/SW. In alternative, we can vote Sowore bot these Baba 70s
Re: ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM? by Aufbauh(m): 5:11am On Oct 10, 2018
Elections are not won on social media. OP, Try and 'Akitulate' with your PVC in your polling unit.

All the factors you mentioned has little or no effect on Buhari's support base, which is mostly the ordinary Northerner on the street of Kano, Katsina, Borno, Jigawa etc and the independent minded Nigerians.

It is instructive to note that there's no time that Buhari candidature has receive the genuine support of the elites either in the secular or religious community.

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Re: ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM? by awgumayor: 6:20am On Oct 10, 2018
enemyofprogress:
No doubt both candidates above are formidable in their own right, but let's look at their individual strength; *this is purely my personal analysis*. Though I would have preferred a Dakwambo or a Tambuwal, but when the desirable is not available the available becomes the desirable. *This is not about social media noise of SAI BABA but the reality on ground!*

Let's consider the following points; why Atiku has a better advantage.

1. Atiku and Buhari are both Muslims and full blooded Fulanis, so the Hausa-Fulani ethnic stock, won't be concerned on who emerges.

2. The Northern Elders forum will always go for Atiku. Recall in 2007/2011, when the Northern Elders chaired by the late Ciroma, was faced with who to choose between Atiku, Aliyu Gusau, Buhari and Saraki, they unanimously choose Atiku; check records.

3. Integrity; Atiku has integrity issues so has Buhari; Before 2015, Buhari was viewed as a saint and has cult followership, but since, he was given that opportunity, he has not been able to deliver anything meaningful. Change sermon has seriously depleted and doesn't ring bell anymore. Besides Intels, Halliburton & Siemens scandal, APC doesn't have much against Atiku.

4. The Caliphate and Emirate council have withdrawn their support from Buhari. Recall that the Sultan of Sokoto was amongst the first to congratulate Tambuwal during his defection from APC  to PDP. The Emir of Kano has always been an Ally of Atiku and he has been vocal against the misgovernance of this administration. Go and Write it down, once the Sultanate and Emirate is against your ambition in the core North, just go and rest.

5. Virtually all Notable religious leader in the North is against Buhari from Sheik Gumi, El ZakZaky, etc. They have been going everywhere campaigning against Buhari, regretting while they voted against Jonathan.

6. Military Establishment from Danjuma, IBB, Abdusalam, etc are already scared that PMB will turn into full scale dictatorship if re-elected. Besides OBJ, who may reconcile with Atiku in the next coming days, they will prefer anybody but PMB.

7. APC is currently in shambles right now. Consequent upon the primaries which is still going on as I write. Aisha Buhari has cried out, Governors Yari, Bello, Amosun, Akeredolu, El Rufai, etc are threatening brimstone and fire. I don't envy Oshiomole at all. Almost all the states APC is in control are having major crisis resulting from the conduct of the primaries. Adams automatic tickets to loyal Senators has backfired. Okorocha just returned himself and his son-in-law as Senatorial and guber aspirants respectively. And so on and so forth. I see this challenges snowball into unmanageable monumental crisis.
PDP to my astonishment achieved almost 90% rancour free primaries! And they will reap abundantly from the APC crisis!

8. Atiku political foray started more than 30years ago. You can see how he earlier rejected PH as venue for the convention, but later accepted and beat Wike to his game. The reason Atiku has not won the Presidency is because he has never emerged the candidate of a major National political party; ACN then was just a regional party. *With almost a limitless and unmatchable financial war chest, he will deploy his financial arsenal, knowing this is his last shot at the Presidency* I doubt if any politician as prepared as him.

9. The average Northerner likes power so much, whether they benefit or not. They know if PMB wins he has just 4 years, but if Atiku wins he might have 8 years. *I tell you with their penchant for love of power they might tilt towards Atiku because of another 8years!*

10. Recall that Atiku inherited the late Shehu Yaradua political machinery the SDM; even in Katsina he is loved because of this relationship. Most SDM members in other political parties will work for him. The roll call includes; IBB, Orji Uzor Kalu, Tony Anenih, Kingibe, Ibori, Lamido, Aliyu, etc.

11. The business establishment like banks, conglomerates, oil majors, magnates, business moguls, captains of industries, Importers/Exporters, etc will go for Atiku any day any time, you can take that to the bank

12. Religious bodies are already frustrated with PMB; There is no major Christian denomination who supported PMB in 2015, who are still with him now. From CAN, PFN, Oyedepo, Adeboye, Lazarus Mouka, Mbaka, Paul Enenche, Sulaiman, Bakare, etc has abandoned the change project. *Atiku will win majority Christian vote and divide Muslim vote with Buhari*

13. The Academia and the Labour movement have not hidden the direction they will go in 2019; it's almost anybody but Buhari.

14. Atiku's greatest selling point has been restructuring, but PMB doesn't even talk about it. The Southern and Middle Belt leaders will mobilise support for Atiku; Ohaneze, PANDEF, Afenifere, Middle Belt Forum, etc. Take my words to the bank!

15. Atiku will sweep votes from the North East; the sentiments are rife that no North-Eastern individual has ruled this country as President before! He will whip that sentiments massively. Watch Atiku, his propaganda campaign machinery might be second to none!

16. Just like PDP propaganda machine pushed PMB to victory in 2015, I see APC making a bigger blunder than PDP on Atiku. The way and manner they have started attacking Atiku even before campaign proper will eventually, endear Atiku more to the electorates. Remember how they lost Osun in the first round of voting regardless of the avalanche of attacks against Adeleke!

17. Geopolitical zonal permutations; SS & SE is already a given for Atiku. Atiku has always been a darling of the SW, besides the fact, that his most popular wife Titi is from there. In fact in the just concluded PDP National convention, the SW voted for him en block. Afenifere has been on the fore front of restructuring. In fact Pa Adebanjo, Reuben Fasoranti and Olu Falaye have said Atiku is the only candidate to implement restructuring. Middle Belt and North Central will go for Atiku. With the likes of IBB, Abdusalami, Saraki, Ortom, Useni, Mama Taraba, Mark, Gemade, Jonah Jang, etc leading the charge. They all believe Atiku is a moderate. NE is gone because of the earlier stated sentiments. NW votes will be splited; if Kwankwanso, Tambuwal, Lamido, Datti Ahmed, Turaki, Markafi, etc all agreed to work for Atiku, PMB will win NW, but Atiku will pick serious votes there. *Recall Zamfara is almost gone with Governor  Yari defection few days away*

Let me stop here before I start answering questions, I don't have answers for.

2019 is very interesting; Muslim VS Muslim, Fulani VS Fulani, Former APC VS current APC, North VS North, money versus more money.

These above are just my personal views and opinions.
This is the best calculation I have seen since the emergency of Atiku as pdp presidential candidate. The only puzzle awaits him is the choice of vp.

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