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| Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by dtraveler: 12:29pm On Apr 22, 2019 |
Between Jan till Date. I transacted exactly 20,353.99USD paypal PP with @HazzanTazzan and paid him in full 100% Then came the first charge back, then second one. my Chinese supplier is only helping me to receive and distribute to factories, I can't ask them to be defending payment I sent. I made this clear to him that charge back are his responsibility, as long as when I do bank transfer and he gets his full payment. Part of the reason why he is a broker is not give me headaches, but to make sure his sellers are in check. I can easily come here to buy just like he does and save the extra 15-20Naira he makes. I stopped transacting with him because 1. he's very rude. He's quick to insult, and I can't take that especially not from someone I am paying 2. he threatened to do a bulk charge-back on previous transactions. Yesterday, my supplier notified me of another charge back. and I notified him. Could you believe this young man actually blocked me?... which means he's actually started fulfilling his promise to do charge backs since I stopped trading with him for the above 2 reasons. He actually blocked me?... so, it means I paid for for zero value. and he gets paid for it. I actually know what to do to get him to pay back offline, but it'll cost me a bit of time and money. and I really don't like to waste time or money, unless as a last resort, and I also don't like to hurt people. Please let him know this is a criminal case against the CP. I know the law very well and can easily apply it. This will get him into prison because once I start, I won't go back, his family will beg and nothing will change. It'll be late then because he'll pay me all expenses plus interest, I know what I am talking about because I have been involved not once in such instances. So, now, I am begging him: Please help me beg him. I am using his wife, daughter, God and all of what he believes in to beg him that, I have fully paid, my supplier won't defend anything on paypal because there is no proof of shipment to the sender and worst still he's only helping to distribute to other factories, and not getting paid for this, and this is really putting my reputation at risk. He should understand the risk of the business he is in. and he's there to provide value not excuses. Lets be clear, regular exchange rate is like: 360. this is not worth it with all of this wahala. His reputation is also tarnishing other players. it's because it's fast and convenient, if not,.... the difference is less than 7%. Meanwhile, I still need a very good supplier who give me no issues. In fact, right now, I need at least $5k pp. Kindly quote me with your contact. But note, NO chargebacks and must be ready to sign a MOU to that effect. Nkhay Modath hazzantazzan Ibraheem Funlord Bookiemart Marieso Bless01 ladyf Tabbaz
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| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by Nobody: 12:38pm On Apr 22, 2019 |
Mek I pack here small  1 Like |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by funlord(m): 1:07pm On Apr 22, 2019 |
dtraveler: Dominique Mynd44 Step in and investigate 3 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by Tabbaz(m): 2:41pm On Apr 22, 2019 |
dtraveler: @hazzantazzan. Tell us your side of the story 2 Likes |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by Nobody: 2:41pm On Apr 22, 2019 |
Who can be trusted then?  Let us hear what Tazan says   1 Like |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by HazzanTazzan(m): 10:39pm On Apr 22, 2019 |
dtraveler: Don't mislead people... That sms was sent after you blocked me on an earlier issue while my money was with you Now a chargeback happened on a fund I sold to you. I told you a satisfactory note was added on the fund when it was sent (a method that always make me win a PayPal dispute) ... But u refused to do as I requested so as not to lose the fund... you refunded the PayPal even tho the sender added a satisfactory note which would make it easy to win the case... U deducted the cash for that chargeback coz I had money pending with you... From then, I told you never to contact me again for funds since then. Now u sent me a msg today that a chargeback occurred... I refused to respond cos even if I respond and tell you how we solve the issue, you will refund it rather than respond to the dispute ... So what's the point ... Coming here to accuse me that I threatened chargeback and bow charged back is not only silly but also stupid... You made me lose almost 40k cos you don't care and anybody ... even tho I told you to respond to the dispute, u didn't... my money went with that and I cut ties with you... Don't come here and accuse me stupidly .. Disputes are inevitable when it comes to PayPal but as an exchanger and with my experience, I know how to handle it and I told you from the start of our trades... why now did you decide to do things ur own way cos you had my money with you ? FROM THE DAY WE STARTED TRANSACTIONS, I MADE IT CLEAR THAT I SOURCE FUNDS FROM FREELANCERS BUT DISPUTES ARE INEVITABLE COS SOME BOYS ARE JUST BORN THIEVES... I ALSO TOLD YOU THAT I KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THEM COS A NOTE SENDERS ADD ALWAYS SAVE ME... DID YOU OBJECT TO MY METHOD? WHY OBJECT NOW AND DECIDING THAT YOU WONT RESPOND TO DISPUTE AND COLLECT BACK NAIRA FROM WHATEVER CASH I HAD WITH YOU ? 1 Like |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by HazzanTazzan(m): 10:43pm On Apr 22, 2019 |
Secondly... that I'm rude? Lol I have screenshots of how you chat with me as if u employed me ... I kept telling you it's demeaning to talk to me like that but you won't listen ... so when I decided to return the favour, ure complaining ? |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by Tabbaz(m): 6:50am On Apr 23, 2019 |
HazzanTazzan: @dtraveler what do you have to say about this? |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by HazzanTazzan(m): 8:28am On Apr 23, 2019 |
Tabbaz: |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by HazzanTazzan(m): 8:28am On Apr 23, 2019 |
Tabbaz: The only reason I blocked him was to make him feel same way I felt when he blocked me while my Money was with him... So why is he here ranting ? I'm also busy and not in the country... different time zone... So I wanted him to wait and tell him same thing he told me back then "I was busy working And you were disturbing me"... Anyway, the trader that sent me the fund is sorting it out ... Charging back funds I sold to people ? No... I'm not a petty human |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by dtraveler: 8:04pm On Apr 29, 2019 |
I sincerely apologies for the late feedback, I will do more to be able to resolve here. as stated my accusations are clear cut 1. The young man is very rude. 2. The young man as stated he'll do chargebacks on over 45 transactions. 3. The young man abuses his position in a transaction. for example, he's comfortable with doing chargebacks. U deducted the cash for that chargeback coz I had money pending with you... Kindly refer to attached image screen shot. You sold me a fund during the process there was a charge back, as the screen shot shows, you asked me to deduct it. I didn’t deduct it without your authorization. Now u sent me a msg today that a chargeback occurred... I refused to respond cos even if I respond and tell you how we solve the issue, you will refund it rather than respond to the dispute ... - The Paypal account doesn’t belong to me personally, I don’t know what you want me to say. Listen, this is business, you best understand the risk of your business and liabilities too. In my small business alone I have 4 accountants. And none of them can touch the money. There is accounts receivables and payables. Which is even different from audit/control. Cashiers cannot take money out or do anything. Money only goes in, no way out. - I have stated above already, the Paypal belongs to a company, I only used my influence of knowing the owner of the company for over 15years to ask them to distribute funds to factories on my behalf. - I pay you 100% or will GTB come back to collect the money from you. You do the same, send payment and let me sleep. I don’t have control of defense. And on top of that, Paypal will request for tracking, without it, case closed. No defense from here. Zero defense. Simple.
Told you. Very rude. Finally, he said he's been refunded, but he's saying the facts here should be deleted.... I don't understand him?.. so now he's still threatening and holding on to what he got a refund for. he's very funny. As I stated, I know what to do to get my funds the hard way. But it will cost me time and money neither of which I have. Even to complain here was out of being pissed. Please do not do any more charge-backs, it's a stain on my reputation, I beg you please, secondly, do not hold what doesn't belong to you. I never delayed your payments beyond any necessary time limits. Finally, stubbornness has never helped anyone cos the law only recognizes equity and justice. I will reach out to those who have offered their services. My volume is about to increase even more. and I welcome many more offers. Thank you. Nkhay Modath hazzantazzan Ibraheem Funlord Bookiemart Marieso Bless01 ladyf Tabbaz 1 Like
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| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by HazzanTazzan(m): 9:56pm On Apr 29, 2019 |
dtraveler: As usual, plain stupidity... 1. When we were starting off, I made it clear disputes are inevitable in PayPal but the notes I give the senders to add is what I use to win disputes... was there an objection back then? Why then will you refund a transaction that was disputed knowing fully well it’s a loss on my end and knowing fully well it’s a dispute I’m sure of winning ... 2. I’m clarifying again, that threat you posted was when you blocked me and was with my money... why are you coming here to claim I threatened that for no reason? So you don’t see it logical that I threatened you for holding my money and blocking me ? 3. Why did you come here to cry just barely an hour after I blocked you (a reaction for ur own action of blocking me when it was ur time)...? I thought you’re matured ... at least I was matured to face u directly via sms rather than coming here to blackmail you when you held my money and blocked me... why didn’t you face me ? Why did you have to come blackmail me here knowing fully well I didn’t blackmail you when you acted stupidly at your own time ? 4. It’s clear that those accusations you made are plain wrong and stupid cos I never chargedback your fund and the exchanger who gave me the fund can testify to it if contacted by any of the people you invited to this post... so it’s a blackmail and if you don’t clear that blackmail on my name, I will take this matter up with you seriously... You feel you’re he only one that can threaten the use of force? We shall see ... NB: from your screenshot, I can boldly say you’re a sneaky liar... at least you posted that I said you shld deduct the naira value of 107$ from all my cash with you... what shld I have said when you decided to ignore all my msgs and refused to pay for over 500$ just because 107$ is disputed ... Even after I told you to deduct it, you still ignored me and blocked me and held onto all my cash until I threatened you via sms... So tell me mate, was my threat justified or not ? |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by HazzanTazzan(m): 10:08pm On Apr 29, 2019 |
Cc Dominique tabbaz Bookiemart funlord I want you guys to read all his accusations and blackmail carefully and read my response and tell this dude to stop dragging my name in the mud... He stated my offenses as : 1. I threatened chargeback ... why did I? Cos he withheld my money and blocked me and refused to pay me ... 2. I charged back funds as threatened... true or false ? It has been confirmed by the exchanger who sold the fund to me and the exchanger can conform to everyone that I had nothing to do with the dispute... the exchanger also refunded the cash to me and I’m ready to refund the cash to this guy ... 3. I blocked him... why? Cos he did same to me in the past... My own anger is why this guy acted like a sissy... when he held my money and blocked me, did I come here to blackmail him? Why is he now so immature to come blackmail me cos I gave him a piece of his own poison ... |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by dtraveler: 11:49am On Apr 30, 2019 |
[quote author=HazzanTazzan post=77968252]Cc Dominique tabbaz Bookiemart funlord I want you guys to read all his accusations and blackmail carefully and read my response and tell this dude to stop dragging my name in the mud... He stated my offenses as : 1 . I threatened chargeback ... why did I? Cos he withheld my money and blocked me and refused to pay me ... Withheld your money? When have I ever withheld your money. Whenever you sold funds to me, the only request is to confirm from supplier, your payments has NEVER ever been delayed beyond 24hours. Other sellers like Nkhay can come and state if this is true or false. Show me a screen shot where your payment was held beyond 24hours. Else, keep quiet.
You are ready to return the cash  . You keep pushing blame to other people. why should there be a chargeback, did I pay you so you can refund me, or didn't I pay you full value? so if I paid for something I should be expecting to return it back anytime, after I have fully paid for it. so you are in business to be refunding abi. why haven't you refunded since 6 days?... why? is it your money?...3. I blocked him... why? Cos he did same to me in the past... I lodged a complaint that shook the foundation of your business, your reputation and all you can do is to block me. I have bought over $20kUSD from you within a space of 3 months and had a complaint of $300+ and the only thing you can do is to block me?.. without saying anything?... knowing fully well there is no other form of communication?... anyone who deals with you, is doing so at his own peril, because what it means is that when there's a complaint, you'll block them. keep blocking.. Think carefully, if I am not your number 1 biggest buyer, I will worst be in top 3. Any big buyer shouldn't deal with you. because you are quick to insult, you are quick to block. Unless they want to be wasting time. I also put it to you that you are responsible for the charge-backs, because thats what you stated in your original message. You do it to get back at customers like me who don't waste time to put you in your position. but like I said, don't angry me. 1 Like
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| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by dtraveler: 12:03pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
In fact, I just checked why I blocked you. And it was because of reason no. 1. You were very rude. You had the audacity to ask the status of your sickness. as if I was your doctor. Nkhay Modath hazzantazzan Ibraheem Funlord Bookiemart Marieso Bless01 ladyf Tabbaz 1 Like
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| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by HazzanTazzan(m): 12:04pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
[quote author=dtraveler post=77980860][/quote] You are mad ... In fact... continue the blackmail and let me Deal with you and your business ... you will realize the power of a blogger ... 1. Haven’t I sent you screenshot with the slexchanger who refunded the cash for the fund? Doesn’t that confirm to you that I had nothing to do with the dispute ? Of course you saw that already but your sneaky personality and idiotic nature still insists on blackmailing me... 2. You’re angry I blocked you ? Now answer his single question... Did you block me while my cash was with you or not ? Did I send that threat sms after that or not ? Idiot... you claimed there was no means to contact me after I blocked you ? You don’t have my number? You cldnt text me? Didn’t I text you when you also blocked me back then? You’re just a petty idiot with lack of business etiquettes Hahaha ... see this idiot claiming number one or biggest buyer with his petty 20k$... It will shock you to hear bigger clients who have bought 100s of thousands of dollars from me without blackmailing me for any reason and still buying... Do you even know how many $ I’ve sold after I told you never to contact me again? You really think big of yourself... So fool of yourself ... |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by HazzanTazzan(m): 12:07pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
dtraveler: So now you agree you blocked me while holding onto my money ? And now Ure Craig all over nairaland cod I blocked you ? Hahaha ... pained idiot You’re simply pathetic ... Post screenshots of the things you said before I asked to confirm if you’re sick ... I still need the mods to look into this blackmail by this guy... You don’t treat someone like trash and cry when they treat you like trash... This idiot has no case against me for blocking him... He also has no case against me for the PayPal dispute cos is confirmed that I had no had in the dispute which can be confirmed by the exchanger who provided me with the fund ... I don’t want to drag the exchangers name into this as he has refunded me the cash... This idiot on the other hand is only happy to pull me down rather than collect his cash ... However, while he’s here with his petty blackmail, I’m trading continuously in bulk daily |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by dtraveler: 12:11pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
HazzanTazzan: Who uses words like Fool, idiot, silly, sick, stupid?... Who?... From all of the deductions above, you are behind the charge-back, can I get my refund now?...anyone who likes charge-backs and getting the police and lawyer or coming here to be discussing business or better still likes to be called stupid, and fool and silly can continue dealing with you. House, kindly ask this young man when I can get my refund ? Since he got it almost a week ago what has stopped him from sending it back? or he's decided to be a full fledged criminal by taking my money? 1 Like |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by HazzanTazzan(m): 12:21pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
dtraveler: @zdoh I really hate to bring you into this issue but this petty guy claims refunding cash isn’t enough and he’s hell bent on blackmailing me ... Can you kindly confirm to him that I bought the fund from you and it was one of your suppliers that messed up the fund.... @tabbaz Dominique if after confirmation by Zdoh, this dtraveler guy continues this blackmail rubbish and doesn’t bring down this blackmail thread, I will make sure he sees hell for his stupidity ... Cos it’s clear that he just wants to blackmail me for whatever reason known to him... |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by dtraveler: 12:33pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
[quote author=HazzanTazzan post=77981636] @zdoh I really hate to bring you into this issue but this petty guy claims refunding cash isn’t enough and he’s hell bent on blackmailing me ... Whoever you procured your funds from is your business, did I tell you how I got the naira to pay you?
blackmail /ˈblakmeɪl/ noun noun: blackmail 1. the action, treated as a criminal offence, of demanding payment or another benefit from someone in return for not revealing compromising or damaging information about them. Uncle Alimi, you are the one with my money, how is it that you are being blackmailed?.. you are the one comfortable with calling your customers stupid, fool, idiot, silly, sick and all manner of unprintable names, something even your own family will deal with you over, you are the one who is directly or indirectly (as you claim) responsible not only for one charge back, so how is this black mail. You are the one who when a complaint came into your whatsapp, you found a perfect moment to block your customer who paid you 100% for that value. and you are the one who has now held on to the refunds for 1 week, since you said the funds as been refunded to you. You have refused to pay back. Excuse me sir, you need to go back to school. But before you do, kindly refund me, I have over 50 colleagues who need my attention. You are distracting my attention, I don't have the luxury of time like you think. Kindly refund what I paid you since you are now a professional charge-back person, so I can move on with my life. Biko, na beg I dey beg. 1 Like |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by HazzanTazzan(m): 12:48pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
[quote author=dtraveler post=77981996][/quote] Lol... I thot u said I chargedback the fund based on my threat... U seem not to understand English... blackmail isn’t only for a return of money... False accusation can also be termed blackmail is you’re gaining something from it... That I blocked you and withheld your refund ? See who’s talking... did you do the same to me or not? Did you block me or not ? Was my money with you when you blocked me or not?... petty liar and a cry baby Biggest PayPal buyer , when you have time, sort all the false accusations you made here and I’d send your cash...At least, I sent you screenshot immediately the exchanger sent me the cash and I told you to drop your bank details but right now, if you keep this accusations on, I won’t only delay the cash, I will severely deal with your business ... I’m warning you ... If you feel you have the luxury of falsely accusing me of scamming you cos my business is online, you shld realize that offline businesses also can be dealt with... I won’t reply you anymore till you get sense ... People presently buying PayPal from me in thousands can never complain that I’m rude to them cos they respect me and respect themselves ... Unlike you that open your gutter to talk to people anyhow as if you employed them... |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by dtraveler: 1:08pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
Lol... I thot u said I chargedback the fund based on my threat... Facts are facts and cannot be distorted. Everyone here can see you for what you are. if you keep this accusations on, I won’t only delay the cash, I will severely deal with your business ... I’m warning you ... You are a very funny young man. It only takes me 2-3 phone calls, and bank transfer to get you into the trouble that you'll feel the heat for the next 2years of your life. Ogun state jurisdiction is under zone 2. Don't make me shock you. I won't look back and again, it's not necessary since you are still communicating, but don't take my simplicity for granted. Now, I have to get back to work. 2 Likes |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by Tabbaz(m): 1:24pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
I'm lost here. Let's be concise and direct. Too many posts will only derail readers from getting the gist. What I understand so far, dtraveler accused hazzan of fund chargeback. Hazzan claimed it was 3rd party that charged back and accept to pay back naira. Anything else to this case? Dominique Mynd44 Puskin |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by dtraveler: 1:31pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
Tabbaz: Simple as that, he's my banking details and hasn't refunded in 6 days, and also, I don't want any more charge-backs, it's affecting my relationship with my suppliers. He's sold me the funds and I have paid for it. NO more charge backs. |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by IfoyinTEDO(f): 1:45pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
I don't even understand a thing. But I hope it gets resolved. |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by Negro1: 2:08pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
I've been following this dispute from when it was posted. This is what I can pick from it, asides the name callings. Dtraveler is angry as a result of a chargeback, his money been withheld and the threat of future chargebacks. HazzanTazzan is angry because of this potential damage to reputation, he claims he proved the chargeback was not initiated by him. And that he is ready to refund the money. Also adding that the threat of future chargebacks was made out of anger and not genuinely meant. HazzanTazzan, I can't say he is a major client or not. But the value of his business is not small as well. In business it is your responsibility to placate your client whenever dispute occurs (whether it's your fault or not) Perhaps you should have sought another seller when the first one pulled out. You should also understand that in such a case, your client has the right to be angry (not insult you though), not minding if you caused it or not. It's your duty to resolve it the best way you can, not even to block them. I have add time to be very pissed at some guys on NL I contracted some job to, but when they explained what happened with proof and apology, I always understand. You never can tell what a sincere apology can do. Remember you may think his action won't threaten your business now. What if you're wrong? Also easy on the insults please, I know you're angry, but easy. Dtraveler I can understand your frustration when been disappointed, I've been there, I'm still there. However you claimed you have transacted over $20k successfully with him, which was not disputed. Why throw away that long business relationship over an amount that's not upto 5% of 20k. Note, I'm not saying you should forego or forget, nor am I saying the figure is not significant. I'm saying why not seek an amicable resolution now rather than throw away an established relationship. Also he claimed he sent you a screenshot confirming that the seller pulled out, and not him. While this should be none of your business, but you could also show some empathy, as a business person yourself, you'll know that situations beyond your control can happen. Threatening his business may not be the best thing to do as well. There's this saying that no be one king dey street. This is not to suggest that you don't have the means. But it may not be worth it. My Suggestion: I think y'all can still salvage this situation by resolving this and any other issue. I'm not exactly sure of who is holding whose cash. But I'll suggest you guys should net off all unresolved transactions, dtraveler should be given the naira he paid for the disputed fund and if there's any balance, it should bs sent accordingly. HazzanTazzan if you can, you could also throw in some sort of discount in the next transaction. Someone buying 1k today can buy 50k next month, don't chase clients away, well not this one. I'll suggest that both of you let go of all grievances, no matter the damage done to your respective business or reputation, I know y'all can. Letting go is easy only if you choose to. Let it be a case of no victor, no vanquished, and carry on with your business. My one Kobo, I would have given two kobos but economy hard. I have to spend my kobos frugally. 4 Likes |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by dtraveler: 2:47pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
Dtraveler I can understand your frustration when been disappointed, I've been there, I'm still there. However you claimed you have transacted over $20k successfully with him, which was not disputed. Why throw away that long business relationship over an amount that's not upto 5% of 20k. Note, I'm not saying you should forego or forget, nor am I saying the figure is not significant. I'm saying why not seek an amicable resolution now rather than throw away an established relationship. You can see the words he used to qualify me. I don't think anyone has called me silly or stupid or fool in the last 10years. It's hard to beat that. Frankly, they are hard words to swallow. Also he claimed he sent you a screenshot confirming that the seller pulled out, and not him. While this should be none of your business, but you could also show some empathy, as a business person yourself, you'll know that situations beyond your control can happen. He only shared that screen shot after he blocked me and I came here to complain, he didn't show me any screen shot before, and frankly, I didn't even go through it. the reason is that he needs to deal with his suppliers better, I know what I do to deal with mine. I sincerely appreciate your thoughtfulness.
Thank you for your kind suggestion. |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by HazzanTazzan(m): 3:52pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
Negro1: im really glad someone at least understand the issue here. i had to cope with so many issues with him but i only complained to him on whatsapp and warned him to stop insulting my personality... i never came here to spoil his name ... even when he blocked me sometimes back while having my cash with him... i dont insult my clients at will unless i get provoked to the point with your own insults at me... i hate to have issues with people at this moment of my life ... this is why i contacted the sender promptly to make amends or refund which the sender did ... i asked dtraveler to pull down all these accusations as i already proved with a screenshot that i had no hand in the dispute ... rather than pull it down and stop, he even did more ... even tho i know he cant pull down the thread, it takes him to reach out to dominique to pull it down cos dominique wont pull it down unless dtraveler approves it. i hate to see any of my delivered funds disputed and less than 500$ dispute out of over 20k$ shouldnt have caused this problem but his manner of handling matters is not welcomed by me ... perhaps its cos the ways he sees paypal transactions is different from the way i see it... i really appreciate your input ... it goes a long way in helping me clarify things to dtraveler as i have tried as much i could... my sincere apologies to zdoh cos i eventually mentioned him here and im not supposed to cos he refunded the cash for the fund in a very short time. id implore dominique to act on this thread with the permission of dtraveler so we can resolve fully and everyone can go doing their business in peace |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by dtraveler: 4:12pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
i dont insult my clients at will unless i get provoked to the point with your own insults at me... Yeah right... on this thread alone, how many times even during my complaints did I throw any insults, how many times have you called me stupid, silly?... go and count... i asked dtraveler to pull down all these accusations as i already proved with a screenshot that i had no hand in the dispute ... Why will I pull it down?... please why?. I sent you a charge back complaint, you blocked me. what else am I supposed to do?.. up till now you are just telling me stories, you kept my money in your account.
what happened here is very interesting. so, you said you complained to someone else who sold you the funds right? Did he block you? if zdoh blocked you and didn't refund you, wouldn't you come here to complain?... but you have kept my own money for 7 days. and put my reputation with my supplier at disrepute. yet you even have the effrontery to ask me to pull down the complaint. I mean, Think about it for a second. |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by HazzanTazzan(m): 4:16pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
dtraveler: Mr man, its either youre still being sneaky or you are unable to comprehend all ive said so far... did you block me before while i had money with you? did i come to nairaland to accuse you of stealing from me? or you dont know people do less and get accused of being a scammer? i could have accused you of being a scammer for having y money with you and blocking me... but i didnt cos im way mature... if i block you same way, why are you so pained to come here and accuse me rather than man up and text me via sms same way i did when you blocked me back then? i blocked you simply as a payback of blocking me when it was your time... its just a reminder to you that what goes around comes around... if this still doesnt make sense to you, then i dont know what will |
| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by dtraveler: 4:28pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
did you block me before while i had money with you? I actually did, when you insulted me like you are used to doing to all your customers and as someone who is not used to been insulted. attached is a screen shot, but also, within a few minutes I unblocked you. secondly, in all of our transactions, I have always paid within 24hours max. in fact, nothing more than the same day, but my only request is for the supplier to confirm exactly how much entered, because a lot of time you don't factor that into the final figure. and also supplier to confirm the money is not on hold. but I have never held your payment longer than these reasons. if you have anything else saying otherwise, please show proof.
The context is different. whereas I blocked for insulting me, and also unblocked you minutes after. You blocked me for complaining about what you got paid for. Its either you don't understand the implication of your actions to your business and cannot separate your emotions from business. or you are yet to grow up. cos, I never met you, I never seen you and don't have any means to communicate with you. you shouldn't joke with anything that stains your reputation, but what did you do?.. you went ahead to block me!... who does that? and your blocking was for days... not minutes like mine.
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| Re: Hazzantazzan Paypal Case. Fraudulent Charge Backs. by Negro1: 4:54pm On Apr 30, 2019 |
I'm glad that both parties have agreed on certain terms. I also believe that you both will like to have this end amicably as soon as possible, which is a good thing. I don't mean this in a sexist way, not at all. But na men una be, una no suppose dey long matter, after all, we gather be country people. Let's try it this way. Let's forget who blocked who, and who insulted who. e don happen e don happen. Moin moin wey mix with akamu, na final busstop e reach. HazzanTazzan I take all your ancestors beg u, forget everything that has happened and offer a sincere apology to dtraveler for all inconveniences, and also send the money as soon as possible. You can do it here if you please, but it will be better if done over phone call. I'm not saying anyone is completely at fault, I'm saying let's be honest even though you didn't cause this, your sender did, and truth is as your sender, you have to take responsibility for his action. So please just apologise for everything. Dtraveler please as soon as he does, accept the apology and return the gesture as appropriate. Las las none of una go short. Una business go dey grow. Una hustle go dey pay. Una pepper go dey red. And there goes the second Kobo. |
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