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Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by lilianofentse(f): 3:56pm On Apr 23, 2019
Jonathan553:
See below
see above

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Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by KingLennon(m): 3:56pm On Apr 23, 2019
Debramaye:
How is it Fraud angry
Do you have reading problems?angry

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Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by Philinho(m): 3:57pm On Apr 23, 2019
Goodluck first said so and the same bubu kicked against it. hypocrite
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by Earthkumy(m): 3:58pm On Apr 23, 2019
Islie:







https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/04/buhari-is-right-fuel-subsidy-is-a-fraud/




Buhari should be ready to go to jail then for being part of the fraud called subsidy
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by RexTramadol1: 3:58pm On Apr 23, 2019
Milk dem dry syndrome





Make I just get chance change everything for once!
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by blackpanda: 3:58pm On Apr 23, 2019
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CalabarPikin:
Just like #30,000 minimum wage is a fraud...
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first of all this has nothing to do with the topic

secondly converting naira to dollar is very silly cos we dont spend US dollars in nigeria

Stick to the topic pls

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Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by Cletus77(m): 3:58pm On Apr 23, 2019
ClearFlair:
Davido supports those criminals called yahoo boys. No wonder he supported PDP...thank God we rejected them
Is this the latest programming?
What of Buhari that supported Sharia across Nigeria?
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by Nobody: 3:59pm On Apr 23, 2019
Onyeedum:
Anything Next Level brings, we expect, no surprises.
You can say that again. He who is prepared for the worst and gets the worse won't be hit hard but he who hopes for the best and gets the worse will cry his eyes out.

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Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by sunnyside16(m): 3:59pm On Apr 23, 2019
and a bigger fraud under him and his mediocres
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by blackpanda: 4:00pm On Apr 23, 2019
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SluttanSlayer:
Civil servants should get ready for mass retrenchment

Nigerians should get ready for double inflation , high fuel price at least 350 naira

Your suffering jus dey start
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you wailers are now tired to fake news, its now to be predicting woes for yourselves grin
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by Nobody: 4:02pm On Apr 23, 2019
Tundexxy:
Same story

Thank you...Same format they used in 2015 to lie to us and increased fuel price from 86 to 145.....Now they are claiming they ddnt remove what they actually said they removed because they want to tell us it's time to remove it again...

Wow...Yahoo boys are rulling us

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Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by lomprico(m): 4:03pm On Apr 23, 2019
Buhari is a fraud!
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by 1miccza: 4:04pm On Apr 23, 2019
If Buhari knew Subsidy was a fraud , why is he still following the same path, his hands are also too dirty to behold..
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by Yemiwhite: 4:04pm On Apr 23, 2019
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Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by blackpanda: 4:05pm On Apr 23, 2019
Joromi12:
Crude production cost is 5 dolls This man is mad. The current subsidy being done my nnpc sucks because it doesnt allow private coys import fuel meaning lesser jobs. NNPC has over at least 51% of all oil blocks in nigeria. So the nnpc is selling its oil to refenieries abroad at a reduced rate so that they can sell for us at 145. Let them continue abeg. because if dem remove am we wont see wat the money is being used for


the last time private companies were allowed to import we remember how they messed up the entire system with their fraudulently round-tripping, manufacturing figures from thin air and importing fake dangerous products. Not again!
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by asawanathegreat(m): 4:06pm On Apr 23, 2019
Some of our leaders are scammers
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by Nobody: 4:06pm On Apr 23, 2019
blackpanda:



the last time private companies were allowed to import we remember how they messed up the entire system with their fraudulently round-tripping, manufacturing figures from thin air and importing fake dangerous products. Not again!
agreed but let the money flow . This current nnpc one how u wan track am na.
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by Nobody: 4:09pm On Apr 23, 2019
1miccza:
If Buhari knew Subsidy was a fraud , why is he still following the same path, his hands are also too dirty to behold..

Because if he removed it, ie allowed marketers to set the price of the fuel they would sell...and stopped paying subsidies....price of fuel would shoot up to N200 and above, leading to protests and nationwide revolt.

So, Nigeria keeps on paying for a scam because dealing with the scam is too politically expensive....even though subsidy removal is the best idea.

GEJ tried it in 2012...Nigerians rioted., it was reversed.
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by Nobody: 4:09pm On Apr 23, 2019
ClearFlair:
Davido supports those criminals called yahoo boys. No wonder he supported PDP...thank God we rejected them
And the saint you supported have wrecked the economy and are planning to cause more hardship
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by sunnyprof: 4:11pm On Apr 23, 2019
Many people Buhari dont know anything ..... keep deceiving yourselves.

Buharia knows more than what most of our Fathers know about Nigeria and even have more information now than anyone else.

As a president he can extract facts from sources you don't have access to. let be careful how we talk.

YOU CALL HIM MUMU AND HE STILL RULING YOU ....... you must be more mumuish then

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Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by Nobody: 4:11pm On Apr 23, 2019
@op, subsidy is FRAUD and not A FRAUD
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by ushafe(m): 4:15pm On Apr 23, 2019
Nigeria currency can't buy anything in Africa

Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by Nobody: 4:15pm On Apr 23, 2019
1StopRudeness:


Thank you...Same format they used in 2015 to lie to us and increased fuel price from 86 to 145.....Now they are claiming they ddnt remove what they actually said they removed because they want to tell us it's time to remove it again...

Wow...Yahoo boys are rulling us

In 2015..it cost N132 to import one liter of fuel into the country. Nigeria was importing most of the fuel it consumed, and still does.

We were selling the fuel at N87 per liter.

At the same time, oil prices ...crude oil was at $30 per barrel and dropping. (Note...we need oil to be at $140 to run a balanced budget. It's our break-even price. Russia is $99, Saudi $78, Kuwait $45)

No money to subsidize fuel, our treasury was running on empty, our reserves were dropping...and there were fuel queues because most makreters were running at a loss.

Based on advice, the government raised prices to N145....above the landing price of N132. That ended the need for subsidy, and ended the queues.

When landing price rose above N150.(in part thanks to a rebound in oil prices, but not enough to get dollars to rebuffer the naira)..that's when government made NNPC the sole importer of fuel, and forced them to use their money to pay 'underrecovery' (though govt too is paying)...ie subsidy by another name.

NB: I am not defending Buhari or APC. I believe that if GEJ had been allowed to remove fuel subsidy, we would have seen benefits as early as 2014....with increased investment, etc.)

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Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by blackpanda: 4:18pm On Apr 23, 2019
Joromi12:
agreed but let the money flow . This current nnpc one how u wan track am na.

nnpc is under the control of Govt and it audits nnpc periodically. Thats sure better than a fraudulent criminal sitting somewhere, doing nothing and just packing home Billions
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by J2381: 4:19pm On Apr 23, 2019
This is a bad mess we find ourselves. Every government that occupy Asokoro Rock only care for themselves.
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by eeby1983(m): 4:36pm On Apr 23, 2019
tactius:
The argument does not make sense because we import over 80 percent of fuel into this country

And because our refining capacity is low


And why is it low? Because low prices due to.fuel subsidy.

The OP is assuming we have refining capacity enough to supply 60% of our need, when we have enough to supply ten percent. We import the rest.

And we are throwing away trillions of naira on a corruption ridden subsidy regime that he complains about yet expects the government to maintain?

Look guys, I hate saying this. God knows I wish fuel was 50 naira per liter. But thanks to subsidy, investment is not flowing into the country to build new refineries because no one is going to sell at a price below production costs.

And look, we are running out of money to even pay for the subsidy. With oil below the 140 USD we need it to be for a budget without borrowing, and with reports that we are cutting prices to sell our oil, where will we get the money.

Subsidizing fuel is wasting money. I will prefer to pay 200 per liter than pay the subsidy cabals for nothing
you should tell them to build more refineries before jettison fuel subsidy
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by 1miccza: 4:37pm On Apr 23, 2019
tactius:


Because if he removed it, ie allowed marketers to set the price of the fuel they would sell...and stopped paying subsidies....price of fuel would shoot up to N200 and above, leading to protests and nationwide revolt.

So, Nigeria keeps on paying for a scam because dealing with the scam is too politically expensive....even though subsidy removal is the best idea.

GEJ tried it in 2012...Nigerians rioted., it was reversed.

The truth is, let no partisan politician or foot soldier to a politician deceive you, as long as we are not producing and refining our oil, our best option remains subsidy, the only alternative to Subsidy is ensuring that our refineries are in top shape and these leaders will not allow this because it's their meal ticket.. The marketers will continue to fleece the nation dry until we do the right thing..
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by miketayo(m): 4:37pm On Apr 23, 2019
fairfora:
Wetin Buhari sabi? Figure head president who cant see beyond his nose. If subsidy was a fraud, then why pay it? Confused govt

He is a fraud too, we never heard fuel subsidy till Jonathan, Buhari was right then, but he is just as corrupt as Jonathan, subsidy is just used to make extra money for politicians
Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by LordAdam16: 4:44pm On Apr 23, 2019
The writer is high as a kite. Where on this planet is crude oil sold for $5?

Cost of extracting it alone in Nigeria is on average around $25/barrel. So who'd sell at a loss.

All these economic illiterates just wake up, take a pen, and start writing BS. Just look at the silly arithmetic done.

Who's the chimp editor who let this go up without fact-checking?

-Lord

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Re: Buhari Is Right; Fuel Subsidy Is A Fraud. by Nobody: 4:46pm On Apr 23, 2019
1miccza:


The truth is, let no partisan politician or foot soldier to a politician deceive you, as long as we are not producing and refining our oil, our best option remains subsidy, the only alternative to Subsidy is ensuring that our refineries are in top shape and these leaders will not allow this because it's their meal ticket.. The marketers will continue to fleece the nation dry until we do the right thing..

Well, the problem is, government does not have funds to build new refineries.

If they did, GEJ would have built 3 new ones by 2015. He won't have even disturbed Dangote at all.(Buhari cannot build new refineries because oil prices have been too low to make much of anything).

If subsidy goes, the marketers benefit. They get sky high profits from selling fuel above the imported price. They also eventually would be inspired to create new jobs, and invest in things...like refineries.

Foreign investment would come in because they can now make profits from selling fuel above production price.(Dangote, by the way, won't reduce prices. Upon all the loans he took to build his refinery...)

NNPC is not building new refineries because they are spending the money they could have used for that on....you guessed it...subsidy. Subsidy means that you sell below the production or import price, and government pays you the difference. That's why marketers engage in sharp practices like lying about what they import, or selling fuel in Benin or Niger...where it costs N290 or more...because it is the only way to make a healthy profit...of sorts.

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