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Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by asscend: 5:40pm On Sep 23, 2010
Its time to present this matter to your senator so that it can be debated upon, the question is how many have access to their senators?

Its matters like this that the House should wake up and do their job but will they do it?

The challenge should go to the plastic industry to produce the bins needed and show it to the Nigerian public so they can openly expose the govt.  The talking should be matched by action.
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by rebranded(m): 5:58pm On Sep 23, 2010
confetti:

Am sorry to say this but truly speaking, if this is the level of your reasoning, you are really dumb. What has my buying one single shoe or shirt got to do with govt importation of foreign waste bins?
To me, the issue is not even the amount involved even though it is outrageous but why importation when they are asking us to patronize made in Nigeria goods? This is not automobile for God's sake neither is it a technology we do not have. How can a right thinking human approve such purchase in the 1st instance, are u trying to say that the most important thing in Nigeria now (Abuja is waste Bins) Assu is going on strike 1st October, Workers are embarking on strike soon cos of minimum wage, Boko Haram harrassing pple everywhere with such killings as we see in Aba and other states. Do you know how many graduates 1B will change their lives for ever here in Nigeria? In fact, I do not want to continue because reading your post is very annoying.

Do u know that if the government takes the 1B and decides to start a small business loan scheme for citizens, they can give out N100k to 300 people in each state to help start small businesses.

but their mentality that they must have things exactly like those abroad, up to waste bin, has made their rat brains decide to approve such project

Do they need a rocket scientist to tell them how to save the country some money and make use of local manufacturers
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by Nobody: 6:10pm On Sep 23, 2010
@labiyemmy:

The people here shouting the most are the people who will never patronise made in Naija goods and people who doesn't see anything good in Naija or things made and done in Naija - suddenly, they are the ones who thinks it is right to treat local manufacturers better by buying their stuff - you make the first move- patronise these goods, and when you do, your lamentations here will be worth while.

absolute rubbish - the posters here have imported plastic kegs, buckets, funnels, dustbins etc in their homes?
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by labiyemmy(m): 6:12pm On Sep 23, 2010
confetti:

Am sorry to say this but truly speaking, if this is the level of your reasoning, you are really dumb. What has my buying one single shoe or shirt got to do with govt importation of foreign waste bins?
To me, the issue is not even the amount involved even though it is outrageous but why importation when they are asking us to patronize made in Nigeria goods? This is not automobile for God's sake neither is it a technology we do not have. How can a right thinking human approve such purchase in the 1st instance, are u trying to say that the most important thing in Nigeria now (Abuja is waste Bins) Assu is going on strike 1st October, Workers are embarking on strike soon cos of minimum wage, Boko Haram harrassing pple everywhere with such killings as we see in Aba and other states. Do you know how many graduates 1B will change their lives for ever here in Nigeria? In fact, I do not want to continue because reading your post is very annoying.

You can jump in the ocean for all i care- or at best slit your own throat-

My post is a rhetoric question, and if you are hard at understanding - you might as well wipe your entire face and body with sand paper and put on a placard that reads - the person who fails to understand the other person" and jump into the lagoon.

Why do people find it hard to understand that this is a free world, a world where dissenting views are allowed, not a world where every man with his own mind agrees with the thought of the other person.

Call me whatever names you care- it doesnt move me one bit - call me government apologist, or like some others, call me pig, just as their father is a pig. The point is this, we are very hypocritical as a people, the same people shouting give the contract to local people, are the same people who will start threads on NairaLand complaining how bad Naija made products are - the same people who will go to the market and buy expensive foreign stuff in place of local goods.

Shout all you want - my question remains the same - how many of you prefer locally made goods to foreign products who according to you will serve the use and the test of time. That is the issue.
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by Kobojunkie: 6:14pm On Sep 23, 2010
[size=14pt]ROFLMAO!![/size]
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by Felixv: 6:14pm On Sep 23, 2010
i guess the next contract would be to  import a 'bin man'  from east london to help train the locals.Obviously the bin man would be lodged at the hilton nuga hotel and given a huge salary,

what a bunch of fools, and this man wants to rule us for 4 more years,


doomed
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by lightheart(m): 6:20pm On Sep 23, 2010
so ironic, such waste on waste!!! Well, I'd say akunyili don collect her own part of d settlement to be on #teamGEJ!!!! Shikeena
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by Fhemmmy: 6:22pm On Sep 23, 2010
Na wa oh
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by labiyemmy(m): 6:32pm On Sep 23, 2010
927, 000,000 / 60000 = 15,450: 00

To be paid back by users within two years.

What is the argument here?

Save your abuses. But be reasonable and point the issue out - apart from they are foreign - designed to be used with the trucks for carrying them.

Have people who live in the UK seen how the truck lift the bins with the specialised truck- abeg. No abuse me- abuse yahself.

Just point out the issues here. Maybe i am too blind to "see"
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by phantom(m): 6:51pm On Sep 23, 2010
labi,your point has no relationship to what is being discussed.discuss both separately.
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by labiyemmy(m): 6:53pm On Sep 23, 2010
^^^^^

Yeah right - because i dont join others in abusing government?
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by Felixv: 6:59pm On Sep 23, 2010
@labiyemmy

the point you are missing is that with 1B naira,many more jobs could be created,there are local companies in nigeria would could benefit from that.they could be encourage to produce the bins.and i am sure they could do the job,maybe not as efficiently as the british bins.but nonetheless they could have been useful.


by importing the bins money would be leaving the country,which we can ill afford at this moment and again the bins have been overpriced.Abuja is not london.abuja does not add a cent to the national treasury whereas london adds millions to the british economy.

thanks
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by rebranded(m): 7:02pm On Sep 23, 2010
@labiyemmy:

927, 000,000 / 60000 = 15,450: 00

To be paid back by users within two years.

What is the argument here?

Save your abuses. But be reasonable and point the issue out - apart from they are foreign - designed to be used with the trucks for carrying them.

Have people who live in the UK seen how the truck lift the bins with the specialised truck-  abeg. No abuse me- abuse yahself.

Just point out the issues here. Maybe i am too blind to "see"

You talk like you dont understand how Nigerian Govt works, so you think they just told you the truth, what they mean is they will charge houses for refuse collection and receive an estimated revenue of the amount back in 2years not profit, does it not make sense to u that they could have reduced the purchasing cost drastically by sourcing locally, for God's sake its only a waste bin, why buy from abroad
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by labiyemmy(m): 7:06pm On Sep 23, 2010
Felix

Thanks. You come to me as very intelligent, wise and cool.

In terms of over pricing.

927,000,000 / 60000 = 15, 450:00

One bin in Britain - inclusive of VAT = £50 or more. - = 12, 500:00 per piece. Minus other costs.

http://www.britishbins.co.uk/


So, how much would it have been sold for to make it non over priced?

Look, I am not making case for anyone - I am just trying to understand the hoolabaloo.

When government announces cost of roads, airports, NEPA, Transportation, and many more - we all shout, it is not needed. What is it we then need in our dear country Nigeria? Only FOOD? Means we are all hungry and dieing? I realy need to understand all these issues or people are just talking for talking sake?
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by labiyemmy(m): 7:11pm On Sep 23, 2010
Rebrand


Are you saying its not right to charge people for refuse collection?

I dont make bins, neither do i know who makes bins - but i have seen bins used in the UK and other countries are specialised because they are moved by refuse trucks that are customised to simply grab them and pour the stuff in the bin trucks.

My question, do the local manufacturers make these type of specialised bins?

I am trying to reason properly here without joining the bandwagon.
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by labiyemmy(m): 7:23pm On Sep 23, 2010
The next thing I will hear people say is that government should not charge people for disposing off their waste-
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by Nobody: 7:33pm On Sep 23, 2010
fortunately some of us live in lagos a much more fiscally responsible society where we pay n1500 per month and use dustbins of our choice.

there are contractors retained by LASG for clearing of refuse, and there are all sorts of bins private and public

the whole thing smacks of idiocy and irresponsibility

buying garbage trucks that are 'compatible' with a type of bin

thats how 22billion disappears
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by thweraja10: 7:44pm On Sep 23, 2010
Men this is too much almost 1 billion for waste bins. Omo there is cool money in politics.
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by Felixv: 7:48pm On Sep 23, 2010
@labiyemmy

a lot of guys here are trying to point out the obvious, we do not,and should not  be importing waste bins,there is too much poverty in the land.nothing is working.They wanted more jets,our president is currently in the US with over 100 people on a day trip to the UN.

The government continues to waste money on items that add no value to our system and unless you live here,you cant understand.1B would go along way in terms of soft loans for our unemployed graduates.One of my nephews just finished his youth service and guess what, no work.A second class graduate in engineering.yet the only thing our great decision making body (FEC) can propose is to import trash bins from the UK.

Guy, if its tongue in cheek humor,its not funny.Just accept the fact that Nigeria is a mess.down here decisions are only made to benefit the decision maker,in fact i will not be surprised if mrs sambo imported the bins herself on behalf of her husband.

the bottomline is that FEC should be thinking about how to better the lot of nigerians and not their own pockets,

thanks
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by labiyemmy(m): 7:57pm On Sep 23, 2010
Felix

Sorry about your brother- I made a first class from the university - and couldn't get a job for over a year, until i looked inwards. Well, thats not the point.

Ok. You said unless i live here- i assume you mean in Nigeria - off course I do, i live in between Lagos and Abuja, so, nothing is new.

The point and question and my bewilderment is this - everything government does is seen as an avenue to siphon money, example, look at your statement that maybe Sambo's wife is involved in the importation. Is that right?

It is a known fact that there is poverty in the land, but we are a product of our own thinking, if we all think that every government effort is an avenue to siphon money, we are not necessarily correct at all times. So, government should not do anything else than to provide food to the teeming populace, example, share the money on a daily basis?
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by Nobody: 8:00pm On Sep 23, 2010
in fact i will not be surprised if mrs sambo imported the bins herself on behalf of her husband.

with all the figure @labi s dropping, i won't be surprised if he or someone close to him is bringing in those 'grade a' sanitary appliances  cheesy cheesy

anyway, what should we expect from our fg - just as the bastards neglect the health sector and education and send their kids o school in uk and travel out to treat malaria

more of the same

bastards
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by labiyemmy(m): 8:03pm On Sep 23, 2010
oyb:

with all the figure @labi s dropping, i won't be surprised if he or someone close to him is bringing in those 'grade a' sanitary appliances  cheesy cheesy

anyway, what should we expect from our fg - just as the bastards neglect the health sector and education and send their kids o school in uk and travel out to treat malaria

more of the same

bastards

Look, I dont even know anyone in the government - neither do i go after government contracts, thats the truth, beleive it or not, i dont care.
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by Nobody: 8:06pm On Sep 23, 2010
The point and question and my bewilderment is this - everything government does is seen as an avenue to siphon money, example, look at your statement that maybe Sambo's wife is involved in the importation. Is that right?

are you sure you are a nigerian?

obj spent billions on phcn - where are the results?

billions were spent on TAM for nnpc refineries

billions have been spent on those roads in the south east

money is spent everyday with no results - but we see our politicians buying house in dubai and the uk , building schools - where is the money coming from?

Ok. You said unless i live here- i assume you mean in Nigeria - off course I do, i live in between Lagos and Abuja, so, nothing is new.

you live in lagos, and you are supporting this madness? do we not have refuse collection in lagos? do you not see all those prefabricated bins?

do you not realise that all you need is any bin with a sturdy garbage bag that you simply sling into the garbage truck?
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by labiyemmy(m): 8:08pm On Sep 23, 2010
OK. I guess the ones used in Lagos were not bought with money.

All Nigerians are thieves who will siphon all government money once he or she has access to power, be it local , state or federal. Case closed?
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by Kaiser5000: 8:16pm On Sep 23, 2010
Why is the president and the executive council involved in a meeting to discuss the purchase of trash cans? Is this not something that should be handled at the local level (not saying getting trash can are not important). I mean if the president has to be there to make decisions on such inconsequential stuff no wonder they never have time to deal with the "real" problems facing the nation.
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by Felixv: 8:19pm On Sep 23, 2010
@labiyemmy (m)
London


or is that london , osapa london, I think you are trying to be funny.or just being rather smart.

1st class degree, ok,, congrats.i really dont want to get into any long discussion over these trash bins.because its a no brainer.
we are the laughing stock of the world.in fact as i mentioned earlier we are now waiting for the annoucement of the importation of the 'great bin man' from east london to help our local bin men.

lol
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by labiyemmy(m): 8:20pm On Sep 23, 2010
Felixv:

@labiyemmy (m)
London


or is that london , osapa london, I think you are trying to be funny.or just being rather smart.

1st class degree, ok,, congrats.i really dont want to get into any long discussion over these trash bins.because its a no brainer.
we are the laughing stock of the world.in fact as i mentioned earlier we are now waiting for the annoucement of the importation of the 'great bin man' from east london to help our local bin men.

lol



You havent realy understood that any aspersion you throw at me doesnt get to me?

@Kaiser - I like those comments of yours, honestly. I think it may be so that such contracts are scrutinised properly b4 it goes for execution, i may be wrong. I dont think 1billion Naira is in consequential though.
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by Specialist900(m): 8:30pm On Sep 23, 2010
smh.
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by oge4real(f): 8:43pm On Sep 23, 2010
I really want to believe that this is a sincere move by FEC, just that I doubt if they will actually purchase up to 60000 units.
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by rebranded(m): 8:55pm On Sep 23, 2010
@labiyemmy:

You havent realy understood that any aspersion you throw at me doesnt get to me?

@Kaiser - I like those comments of yours, honestly. I think it may be so that such contracts are scrutinised properly b4 it goes for execution, i may be wrong.

Are u kidding labiyemmy? the president meets to scrutinise that waste bins are procured properly, i now believe u have been joking all along

Nigerian Govt dont scrutinise anything unless the leaders involved are going to benefit financially
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by rebranded(m): 8:58pm On Sep 23, 2010
Kaiser5000:

Why is the president and the executive council involved in a meeting to discuss the purchase of trash cans? Is this not something that should be handled at the local level (not saying getting trash can are not important). I mean if the president has to be there to make decisions on such inconsequential stuff no wonder they never have time to deal with the "real" problems facing the nation.

I agree with you 100% such trivia matters should not be discussed at the executive council but lack of ways to steal money, they bring themselves low to do anything bunch of thieves. I just hope next year this so called party packs their load and get out of our lives
Re: Fec Approves N927m ($6.5m) For Fct Waste Bins by labiyemmy(m): 9:04pm On Sep 23, 2010
rebranded:

Are u kidding labiyemmy? the president meets to scrutinise that waste bins are procured properly, i now believe u have been joking all along

Nigerian Govt dont scrutinise anything unless the leaders involved are going to benefit financially

So whats all your argument about then? If wheelie bins are of such in consequential nature - why is it generating all the noise? 1 billion Naira!

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