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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by pkasso(m): 10:05am On Sep 23, 2017
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Later in the day I will analyse better with gifs.

These are stuffs coaches explain during training sessions, as a defender defender, your eyes and brain should be working swiftly to smell and stop danger in your areas.

Hummels neutralised his man, boathand was marking an unseen opponent.
BoaTHONG lost Didavi for that second goal. I don't know why anyone would say otherwise. The guy matter just tire me.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by PietroRico(m): 10:08am On Sep 23, 2017
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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by ToyinDipo(m): 11:53am On Sep 23, 2017
raumdeuter:


You can only win 5 leagues in a row if you make 5 CL semis in a row.
Bayern crashed out of CL in the quarter final last year, and they still won the league with 15 points margin
Does it mean that if a Bundesliga team requires quarter final appearance to win the league by 15 points margin, then an EPL will need a semi final
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 1:31pm On Sep 23, 2017
pkasso:
BoaTHONG lost Didavi for that second goal. I don't know why anyone would say otherwise. The guy matter just tire me.

I just tire my brother.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 1:35pm On Sep 23, 2017
airmark:


Later in the day I will analyse better with gifs.

These are stuffs coaches explain during training sessions, as a defender defender, your eyes and brain should be working swiftly to smell and stop danger in your areas.

Hummels neutralised his man, boathand was marking an unseen opponent.

Origi was Boatengs man and he neutralised origi, Malli was Kimmichs man and he was neutralized. Hummels was the central defender closest to Didavi and he went to sleep as usual on the field

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You havent told us what Hummels was doing in this picture above when the scorer was just a few feet away from him, He was lost in thought as usual
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 1:39pm On Sep 23, 2017
ToyinDipo:

Bayern crashed out of CL in the quarter final last year, and they still won the league with 15 points margin
Does it mean that if a Bundesliga team requires quarter final appearance to win the league by 15 points margin, then an EPL will need a semi final

Bayern made the CL semi from 2012 to 2016 5 straight years when Man Utd or any EPL team makes the CL semi

When Man Utd won the PL 3 times in a row, they also made the CL semi
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 2:24pm On Sep 23, 2017
raumdeuter:


Origi was Boatengs man and he neutralised origi, Malli was Kimmichs man and he was neutralized. Hummels was the central defender closest to Didavi and he went to sleep as usual on the field

www.nairaland.com/attachments/6006096_didavi2_jpeg65d66f97d00f0f1daa5ef04a576fac88

You havent told us what Hummels was doing in this picture above when the scorer was just a few feet away from him, He was lost in thought as usual

Origi was not his man again in the box, where was malli for him to be kimmich's man when the cross was made into the box? This is gibberish.

In football match situation, you swap men based on movements, only a stupid central defender would be saying an origi, who was not even a threat and had been checked by kimmich, was more important to curtail than the scorer.

Below is a better view of how clueless boathand was, to smell and avert the danger. His eyes were only on the ball. Average defender.

[img]https:///media/9-23-2017/D2pREQ.gif[/img]
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 2:30pm On Sep 23, 2017
airmark:


Origi was not his man again in the box, where was malli for him to be kimmich's man when the cross was made into the box? This is gibberish.

In football match situation, you swap men based on movements, only a stupid central defender would be saying an origi, who was not even a threat and had been checked by kimmich, was more important to curtail than the scorer.

Below is a better view of how clueless boathand was, to smell and avert the danger. His eyes were only on the ball. Average defender.

[img]https:///media/9-23-2017/D2pREQ.gif[/img]

Kimmich was watching his man who was just outside the box, Boateng was with origi and had to run to try to salvage the situation because Hummels was unaware of what was going on around him

You havent told us what Hummels was doing while all these was happening. Who was Hummels marking, The man Boateng was marking was at the back post . The man Hummels was marking ran to the wings, at the time the ball came into the box Who was Hummels marking?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/6006096_didavi2_jpeg65d66f97d00f0f1daa5ef04a576fac88 This is the static picture tell us who Hummels was marking
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 2:36pm On Sep 23, 2017
raumdeuter:


[s]Kimmich was watching his man who was just outside the box, Boateng was with origi and had to run to try to salvage the situation because Hummels was unaware of what was going on around him

You havent told us what Hummels was doing while all these was happening. Who was Hummels marking, The man Boateng was marking was at the back post . The man Hummels was marking ran to the wings, at the time the ball came into the box Who was Hummels marking?
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I showed you a video of what happened and you can see that boathand wasn't marking anyone, you were posting a still picture when the ball was not yet kicked. You expected a defender who had his back against the scorer to mark, but a boathand who was closer and with a better view of the onrushing attacker to stay in the box like a xmas tree. You are ridiculous.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 2:58pm On Sep 23, 2017
airmark:


I showed you a video of what happened and you can see that boathand wasn't marking anyone, you were posting a still picture when the ball was not yet kicked. You expected a defender who had his back against the scorer to mark, but a boathand who was closer and with a better view of the onrushing attacker to stay in the box like a xmas tree. You are ridiculous.

Boateng ran and left origi to cover Didavi whom Hummels and Rudy failed to cover

Why will a sensible defender have his back to the scorer who was in your box and at the same time Hummels wasnt marking anyone. Thats poor awareness

On rushing attacker was closest to Hummels but he lacked awareness of his surrounding
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by ToyinDipo(m): 3:02pm On Sep 23, 2017
raumdeuter:


Bayern made the CL semi from 2012 to 2016 5 straight years when Man Utd or any EPL team makes the CL semi

When Man Utd won the PL 3 times in a row, they also made the CL semi
Bayern won the league from 2012 - infinity
They crashed out in the quarter finals, they still won by a big margin, how do they do that
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 3:32pm On Sep 23, 2017
ToyinDipo:

Bayern won the league from 2012 - infinity
They crashed out in the quarter finals, they still won by a big margin, how do they do that

The same way Man Utd did it when they were EPL winners in 2013 yet culdnt make it to the CL quarters
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Neymar1095(m): 7:29pm On Sep 23, 2017
At least Peps Bayern was Fun.
Ancelloti Bayern is not spectacular or anything. this one you just expect them to win cause they’re so much better.

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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Neymar1095(m): 7:51pm On Sep 23, 2017
Imagine that you had no idea who Ancelotti was or what sort of record he’d had in the past. If you looked at Bayern from 2013-2016 saw the performances from 2016/17 and 17/18….would you think that was an acceptable performance for a club like Bayern?
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by Eruditor: 11:06pm On Sep 23, 2017
grin

You crack me up.

There is an evident disenchantment by the players either towards his coaching style or they are just so bored with winning for being better. But all that would change when they get to advanced stages in the UCL.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 12:30am On Sep 25, 2017
raumdeuter:


Boateng ran and left origi to cover Didavi whom Hummels and Rudy failed to cover

Why will a sensible defender have his back to the scorer who was in your box and at the same time Hummels wasnt marking anyone. Thats poor awareness

On rushing attacker was closest to Hummels but he lacked awareness of his surrounding

Obviously you never played football under any coach before. Hummels was checking the other guy, rudy lost the scorer and expecting boathand who was lonely to save the situation but mumu was marking his goalkeeper.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 1:18am On Sep 25, 2017
airmark:


Obviously you never played football under any coach before. Hummels was checking the other guy, rudy lost the scorer and expecting boathand who was lonely to save the situation but mumu was marking his goalkeeper.

WHo was Hummels checking here? The guy who was almost 20yards away from him and when towards the touchline

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If Hummels had some awareness he should know his guy who is already outside the box and close to the touchline is not the threat. Boateng still was covering Origi at the back post and rushed to cover Hummels foolishness
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 1:40am On Sep 25, 2017
raumdeuter:


WHo was Hummels checking here? The guy who was almost 20yards away from him and when towards the touchline


If Hummels had some awareness he should know his guy who is already outside the box and close to the touchline is not the threat. Boateng still was covering Origi at the back post and rushed to cover Hummels foolishness

Boathand was stupid for covering origi. Kimmich had done that effectively, there is no how hummels should have pushed the other guy to the touch line and still close down on the scorer in microsecs.

No sane person would expect hummels, who had his back against the scorer while chasing the other guy, to think boathand was stvpidly double marking origi with kimmich.

Hummels did his job shadow marking the other guy, kimmich did his job of marking origi in the box as seen in the gif below, but boathand as usual didn't know his job.

[img]https:///media/9-25-2017/KOVWMi.gif[/img]

Below is the image showing who was closer to the scorer between boathand and hummels (you can use your ruler).

Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by A40(m): 2:25am On Sep 25, 2017
Neymar1095:
At least Peps Bayern was Fun.

Ancelloti Bayern is not spectacular or anything.
this one you just expect them to win
cause they’re so much better.
You people sha. Titles are not kuku handed in September so I don't know who spectacular epp after all this same Pep was losing to the likes of Mainz at home
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by A40(m): 2:29am On Sep 25, 2017
airmark:


Boathand was stupid for covering origi. Kimmich had done that effectively, there is no how hummels should have pushed the other guy to the touch line and still close down on the scorer in microsecs.

No sane person would expect hummels, who had his back against the scorer while chasing the other guy, to think boathand was stvpidly double marking origi with kimmich.

Hummels did his job shadow marking the other guy, kimmich did his job of marking origi in the box as seen in the gif below, but boathand as usual didn't know his job.

[img]https:///media/9-25-2017/KOVWMi.gif[/img]

Below is the image showing who was closer to the scorer between boathand and hummels (you can use your ruler).
And that is the problem!!!! Hummels is always shadow marking! That was how he went to mark who was going to take throwing the last time. Abeg you should know when to stop defending nonsense For God sake
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by A40(m): 2:37am On Sep 25, 2017
raumdeuter:
This is the ball in play

Boateng watching his man Origi in blue.

Hummels in red

The scorer in black.

Ask anyone with sense how Boateng was responsible for the goal but not Hummels or the person supposed to mark Didavi and theywill categorically tell you that you have no sense
Hummels and his lack of spatial awareness these days is shocking! We always knew speed was never his strong point but when he keeps wafting in the middle of nowhere guarding nobody in particular routinely during opposition attacks then you have to start wondering what his use is in that team
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 9:51am On Sep 25, 2017
A40:
And that is the problem!!!! Hummels is always shadow marking! That was how he went to mark who was going to take throwing the last time. Abeg you should know when to stop defending nonsense For God sake

That's not the problem, the problem are others looking like mumus while hummels was doing what should be done. He didn't mark who wanted to throw the ball. The ball was on the pitch when he marked, stop saying rubbish. The guy just allowed the ball to go because hummels closed up. If he didn't close up, he would have controlled the ball and play on.

Boathand and martinez are not natural cbs, so this type of glitches are expected, but not now when they have played the role for years. When your partner moves, you cover. Soccer academy defenders know this.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 12:23pm On Sep 25, 2017
airmark:


Boathand was stupid for covering origi. Kimmich had done that effectively, there is no how hummels should have pushed the other guy to the touch line and still close down on the scorer in microsecs.

No sane person would expect hummels, who had his back against the scorer while chasing the other guy, to think boathand was stvpidly double marking origi with kimmich.

Hummels did his job shadow marking the other guy, kimmich did his job of marking origi in the box as seen in the gif below, but boathand as usual didn't know his job.

Below is the image showing who was closer to the scorer between boathand and hummels (you can use your ruler).

Origi was Boatengs man and he covered him from midfield. It was Hummels who watime the cross was made. That was why Boateng had to run leave his man to try and cover the scorer.
Who was Hummels shadow marking? The guy that was on the touch line and at least 20yards away from him? While Didavi was ghosting in behind him to score. After the game Hummels went ahead and blame tactics when it was obvious he was the one sleeping on the pitch

You still havent told us who Hummels was marking or what he was doing in the picture?
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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 12:26pm On Sep 25, 2017
A40:
Hummels and his lack of spatial awareness these days is shocking! We always knew speed was never his strong point but when he keeps wafting in the middle of nowhere guarding nobody in particular routinely during opposition attacks then you have to start wondering what his use is in that team

He did the same thing like 3 times in the match but the Wolfsburg attackers couldnt take advantage of it

Losing concentration and sleeping on the field. Like vs Hoffenheim when he was responsible for the 2 goals conceded
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 2:16pm On Sep 25, 2017
raumdeuter:


Origi was Boatengs man and he covered him from midfield. It was Hummels who watime the cross was made. That was why Boateng had to run leave his man to try and cover the scorer.
Who was Hummels shadow marking? The guy that was on the touch line and at least 20yards away from him? While Didavi was ghosting in behind him to score. After the game Hummels went ahead and blame tactics when it was obvious he was the one sleeping on the pitch

You still havent told us who Hummels was marking or what he was doing in the picture?

Thats the problem with boathand. In the midfield, origi was his man, but kimmich took care of him immediately the ball went to the flanks to the crosser and everyone ran into the box.

Ask any footballer in your hood, defenders swap men based on situation. Even in your image above, you could see kimmich running and marking origi before the ball was played to the scorer. Because boathand marked origi to the midfield doesnt mean he must mark only him and leave the more dangerous payer in the box unmarked.

Boathand as usual, wasn't swift in his decision, to quickly leave the impotent origi for kimmich and disturb the scorer.

Defenders' eyes and brains need to work quickly to make good and prompt decisions in the box.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 2:36pm On Sep 25, 2017
airmark:


Thats the problem with boathand. In the midfield, origi was his man, but kimmich took care of him immediately the ball went to the flanks to the crosser and everyone ran into the box.

Ask any footballer in your hood, defenders swap men based on situation. Even in your image above, you could see kimmich running and marking origi before the ball was played to the scorer. Because boathand marked origi to the midfield doesnt mean he must mark only him and leave the more dangerous payer in the box unmarked.
Boathand as usual, wasn't swift in his decision, to quickly leave the impotent origi for kimmich and disturb the scorer.
Defenders' eyes and brains need to work quickly to make good and prompt decisions in the box.

In all of these you havent told us who Hummels was marking

Hummels man went to the wings right? when the ball came into the box who was Hummels marking?

Hummels was closer to Didavi but he was sleep walking as usual and Boateng has to run across the box to come and try to mark Didavi

Simple question, WHen Hummels man went to the wings, who was Hummels now marking?

Lets put this your theory to test
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 3:28pm On Sep 25, 2017
raumdeuter:


In all of these you havent told us who Hummels was marking

Hummels man went to the wings right? when the ball came into the box who was Hummels marking?

Hummels was closer to Didavi but he was sleep walking as usual and Boateng has to run across the box to come and try to mark Didavi

Simple question, WHen Hummels man went to the wings, who was Hummels now marking?

Lets put this your theory to test

Hummels effectively neutralised the guy and forced him to the wing, and in macrosecs you shouldn't expect him to know that the scorer was left off the hook by rudy and unmarked by boathand. kimmich neutralised origi, who did boathand, who had a better view of the scorer and rudy before the cross was made, neutralise? Nobody.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 3:43pm On Sep 25, 2017
airmark:


Hummels effectively neutralised the guy and forced him to the wing, and in macrosecs you shouldn't expect him to know that the scorer was left off the hook by rudy and unmarked by boathand. kimmich neutralised origi, who did boathand, who had a better view of the scorer and rudy before the cross was made, neutralise? Nobody.

Football is played in macroseconds and not the reaction of a snail like Hummels. Boateng was marking Origi and he had the awareness to see that Rudy lost his man and attempted to cover for Rudy

But Hummels whose man has gone outside the box was still sleeping while the scorer ghosted just behind him to score.

Hummels this season has been below par and very slow to react that was how he was sleeping vs Hoffenheim and the throwin was taken while he was still in dreamland

Here below from the image you showed Boateng was running to cover Didavi what was Hummels doing? Just static and ball watching

www.nairaland.com/attachments/6014344_boathandandwolfsburg_jpegf6189101cc9047d8ef53a9632ca8c23f

These type of plays are not acceptable at Bayern maybe at DOrtmund
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 4:05pm On Sep 25, 2017
raumdeuter:


Football is played in macroseconds and not the reaction of a snail like Hummels. Boateng was marking Origi and he had the awareness to see that Rudy lost his man and attempted to cover for Rudy

But Hummels whose man has gone outside the box was still sleeping while the scorer ghosted just behind him to score.

Hummels this season has been below par and very slow to react that was how he was sleeping vs Hoffenheim and the throwin was taken while he was still in dreamland

Here below from the image you showed Boateng was running to cover Didavi what was Hummels doing? Just static and ball watching

These type of plays are not acceptable at Bayern maybe at DOrtmund

Hummels turned and was shocked that boathand was marking nobody. Boathand wasn't marking origi in the box, kimmich did, stop the lie. Immediately the ball went to the flanks, kimmich took on origi and stupidly, boathand still believed he was his man, the empty space created by his stvpidity was enough for the scorer to head home.

This is not too technical to understand, i am not surprised you couldn't though.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by raumdeuter: 4:17pm On Sep 25, 2017
airmark:


Hummels turned and was shocked that boathand was marking nobody. Boathand wasn't marking origi in the box, kimmich did, stop the lie. Immediately the ball went to the flanks, kimmich took on origi and stupidly, boathand still believed he was his man, the empty space created by his stvpidity was enough for the scorer to head home.

This is not too technical to understand, i am not surprised you couldn't though.

Hummels turned like a trailer as usual. His man had the time to move from the edge of the box to the wings while Hummels was still turning.
And in this picture he actually stood there not moving a muscle while just 2 steps behind him Didavi was ghosting in

www.nairaland.com/attachments/6006096_didavi2_jpeg65d66f97d00f0f1daa5ef04a576fac88
So the guy Hummels was marking was now outside the box and closer to the touchline then what was Hummels doing? Decided to take a vacation and daydream on the field

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This was their position when the ball was going to the flanks Kimmich was still watching Wolfsburg 10 while Boateng was tracking Origi at the back post. Origi was in the box and Boateng was still marking him but Hummels guy was outside the box, close to the byline then Hummels decided its time to sleep on the field

And typically for guys who dont take responsibility, he blamed the tactics.
Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by A40(m): 5:18pm On Sep 25, 2017
airmark:


That's not the problem, the problem are others looking like mumus while hummels was doing what should be done. He didn't mark who wanted to throw the ball. The ball was on the pitch when he marked, stop saying rubbish. The guy just allowed the ball to go because hummels closed up. If he didn't close up, he would have controlled the ball and play on.

Boathand and martinez are not natural cbs, so this type of glitches are expected, but not now when they have played the role for years. When your partner moves, you cover. Soccer academy defenders know this.
You always type like you are under the influence of illegal substances. Why couldn't Hummels do the basic thing and return back to his vacated post? Why did he linger there waiting for his teammates to cover his yansh? In the Hoffenheim game and this Wolfsburg game we are seeing Hummels once again compromise his teammates with his sluggishness. I have seen that Wolfsburg offensive sequence over and over again and even the blind can see that Hummels was not doing his job! He marked nobody and was literally on an island from start to finish so save the lame excuses

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Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 6:06pm On Sep 25, 2017
raumdeuter:


Hummels turned like a trailer as usual. His man had the time to move from the edge of the box to the wings while Hummels was still turning.
And in this picture he actually stood there not moving a muscle while just 2 steps behind him Didavi was ghosting in

So the guy Hummels was marking was now outside the box and closer to the touchline then what was Hummels doing? Decided to take a vacation and daydream on the field

This was their position when the ball was going to the flanks Kimmich was still watching Wolfsburg 10 while Boateng was tracking Origi at the back post. Origi was in the box and Boateng was still marking him but Hummels guy was outside the box, close to the byline then Hummels decided its time to sleep on the field

And typically for guys who dont take responsibility, he blamed the tactics.

The gif i uploaded yesterday exposed the misrepresentations of facts in your posts. Origi was marked by kimmich by the time the cross was made. Boathand had no excuse to be marking origi at that moment. In fact if the cross had gone to origi it would have wasted.

Kimmich did his job, hummels did his but alagolo was confused and didn't do his own.

A40:
You always type like you are under the influence of illegal substances. Why couldn't Hummels do the basic thing and return back to his vacated post? Why did he linger there waiting for his teammates to cover his yansh? In the Hoffenheim game and this Wolfsburg game we are seeing Hummels once again compromise his teammates with his sluggishness. I have seen that Wolfsburg offensive sequence over and over again and even the blind can see that Hummels was not doing his job! He marked nobody and was literally on an island from start to finish so save the lame excuses

The highlighted shows that you have no knowledge of how central backs alternate defensive duties. In academy parlance '' if you go, i cover, if i go, you cover''.

Ask any pepsi academy defender in your bariga hood, he will educate you. Hummels have been playing with fvcktards in your central defence since he arrived. That madrid match in which boathand stood as if he was on a mannequin challenge, was the height.


raumdeuter:


just 2 steps behind him Didavi was ghosting in


If he was two steps away from didavi, how many steps was boathand away from the same didavi using the image below. This is not photoshop, tell me the number of steps?

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