presido1:

At the same time u wrote the quote below.
Then u asked what next.

Why not tell us your annoyance.

lucabrasi:

i am simply echoing the part of ynot's comment that i agreed with,which is that apart from being a tourist attraction and an archaeological find bla bla bla [b]assuming for the sake of argument[/b]this is different from agreeing with it,i dont!

my only annoyance is the delusions of grandeur being exhibited,one naija proverb says if you dream of winning a large amount of money in your dream,when you wake up,dont just sit down and expect the money to miraculously come to you,this is what is happening here,because of some erroneous find by some obscure professor in a university that isnt even in the top 50 universities in the uk,a university whose research quality is 0.7 out of a total mark of 7.0,is that a pass or fail for researches??and its been posted as some form of trophy justifying ethnic superiority, obviously because it reinforces some people's ethnic superiority,they are not bothered that the university scoring a poor or dismal failure in research on the university rankings isnt an indictment on any research findings, the man is suddenly"world renowed expert"

Hardballer:

i think i should point out at this time that those are just stacks of mud each one larger than the last . . . lol but the shape can be said to be a pyramid , could people live inside of those ?

ezeagu:

1. Ok, well done for using The Times Good university guide (you do know that you can't rely on those league tables? And the research was done before the 2008 Good university guide)

2. The fact that you think someone posting a topic about pyramids built by Igbo people "ethnic superiority", shows that it is not Igbo people, but you that does not see the Igbo as equally Nigerian. Your tone also reveals intense resentment and jealousy about Igbo people. And no, I do not beleive that Igbo people (a nation of over 30 million) can be collectively "superior" to anyone else. Funny thing is that you do. . . . . . . .

ONODUGO:

As one of the true son of the famous Nsude,the Clan head of Oshie, the custodian community where the world fourth largest ancient pyramids the great Nsude pyramid were located, I stand to shed more light on the might and fact surrounding the pyramid situated in Uto hill( Uto is Nsude deity of the ancient time) in Ugwu uto Village- Nsude in Udi LGA -Enugu state South Eastern Nigeria, Nsude is the backbone and the elder brother of EKE community the second son of Oshie Anugwu the anscentral father of the famous Eze Onyeama n'Eke(King Onyeama of Eke) the greatest King ever lived east of the Niger besides King Jaja of OPOBO, Okwuluoha Agbaja(Eze Onyeama n'Eke) welded his enormous power from his Nsude brothers who shielded and protected him through out his reign as King of the East of the Niger, Nsude is notted for their sheer bravado and warrior whom defeat all their enemies especially those that stand against their Okwuluoha Agbaja.

Therefor I welcome all well meaning inquiries from scholars, Archaeologist , educationists, e.t.c who want to have first class and indept information's regarding the above subject as I stand to shed more light on the matter.

redsun:

Nna, the pyramid really shows that our people were not as stupid as oyinbo made them out to be,leafs cladded,semi naked dust africans without any concept of ingenious architecture and engineering

redsun:

Semi naked is not a problem but they put it in such a way like africans lack the concept of clothing.

There is evidence that the ancestors of the Igbo people and most of their neighbors were the proto-Kwa group, which came from the African Great Lakes and Mountains of the Moon of East and Central Africa and settled at the old Sahara grasslands. It was the desertification of the Sahara that forced some of the Kwa people to migrate farther south to the north of the Niger Benue confluence and founded Nok!

KB1:

LOL at folks getting excited over stacks of mud. I'm sorry, but this is nothing to get excited about; it'll be different if these things actually had livable hollow interiors or something, but no,  they're just stacks of mud. I'm not impressed.

THE AMAKA:

WHO GIVES A DAMN ABOUT THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS, SO? NEITHER DO MOST OF THEM IDENTIFY WITH THEMSELVES AS AFRICANS.

NiggNogg:

Comparing the antiquities of the Igbo people and ancient Egyptians is unfortunately like comparing plastic with gold 

NiggNogg:

I still do not think you can compare the two!

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LOT 119

MASQUE, AFIKPO IGBO, NIGERIA
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AN AFIKPO IGBO MASK, NIGERIA

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MEASUREMENTS

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haut. 62 cm

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24 1/2 in


DESCRIPTION

composé d'une succession de formes géométriques, le visage en cône marqué par une nervure médiane dentelée projetée en haut relief et par les yeux en fentes s'étirant sur sa largeur. Il est surmonté d'une haute palette ajourée de motifs triangulaires. Très belle et épaisse patine croûteuse, avec rehauts de pigments rouges, jaunes et blancs.



CATALOGUE NOTE
Selon Ottenberg (in Paudrat, Kerchache, Stephan, 1988 : 550), les Afikpo ne conservaient que peu d'effigies – contrairement aux Igbo du nord - pour se concentrer sur la création de l'ensemble "masque-costume-danse", qui était leur préoccupation majeure.
Ce type de masque sortait principalement lors de la mascarade Okumkpa – suite de parodies satiriques et de chansons entrecoupées de danses - en présence de centaines de participants (cf. Joubert in R.M.N., 1997 : 286).

Thor:

I am not saying that there are no Igbo treasures of any worth, just that they pale into insignificance when compared to that of Ancient Egypt!

ezeagu:

What make Igbo artifacts insignificant to Egyptian ones? Bearing in mind that there has been insignificant archaeological excavating in Igboland, and the most prized ornament's by chance were stubbled upon by farmers.

Thor:

I think you only have to look at what exists to see! I don't for one minute believe that we are going to find a load of long lost Igbo palaces and temples or anywhere near the amount of artifacts that have been found in Egypt.

It is not a competition, just the reality!

Egyptian Sarcophagus 700-300BC




A very large Ancient Egyptian polychrome painted half sarcophagus lid, dating to approximately 600 B.C. and mounted in a modern frame.

The piece is of typical construction, with flat cedar wood back providing support, on top of which lies the fabric and plaster layer known as cartonnage, which was used by the ancient Egyptians for decorating funerary art.

The depiction is thus that of the deceased, who is shown with heavily idealized features.  The face is well modeled with fleshy, gently smiling lips, small nose, elegant eyebrows and bronze inlaid eyes, themselves inlaid with white and black glass representing the sclera and pupils.  The deceased is depicted mummiform, wearing the striated tripartite wig, the front of which pushes the ears forward, and an elaborate ornamental collar, decorated with fly, lotus flower, rosette and cross-hatch motif.  A stylized scarab beetle adorns the top of the head, its wings spread outward in protection.



Height, including modern frame: 48 inches.

Height of sarcophagus: 33 inches.

Depth from nose to back of sarcophagus: 7 inches.

Condition: Restoration to the right lower wig and approximately a third of the ornamental collar.

Provenance: Ex. Illinois private collection, acquired 1980's.

$13,500.00