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Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Okoroawusa: 2:43pm On Jul 26, 2019
Afamed:

I just ignore most of them when I read their comments. Just March in Florida, a pedestrian bridge under construction collapsed and killed 3 people. Those nonentities would not ever believe such can happen in US. To them US is without blames
Too much watching of Hollywood
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Afamed: 2:44pm On Jul 26, 2019
Newboss:


No, he wasn't shot!

Go read it again.
He was captured alive? Or buried alive?
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Diamondwriter(m): 2:44pm On Jul 26, 2019
Okoroawusa:

You cannot overrule a court,u can either obey or disobey a court.


Donald Trump can choose to disobey a court citing national interest most especially national security
Oboy Donald cannot "disobey" a court for whatever reason.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Afamed: 2:46pm On Jul 26, 2019
Diamondwriter:

Oboy Donald cannot "disobey" a court for whatever reason.
Read what's called National interest in US
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Newboss(m): 2:46pm On Jul 26, 2019
Afamed:

He was captured alive? Or buried alive?

Airstrike, bro! The full compound was bombed to dust.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Okoroawusa: 2:47pm On Jul 26, 2019
Diamondwriter:
Oboy Donald cannot "disobey" a court for whatever reason.
OK...bye
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by bigfish3k: 2:48pm On Jul 26, 2019
Hassan080196:


Baba, the bail was thrown out thus he would appear before the court I think by 29th of this month. And I suppose you do more research. It isn't the FG holding him in custody rather the Kaduna government.


is this the new method the zombies are using to tell us that "he is not aware"

(1) if the state law conflicts with federal law
the federal law will supercede.
(2) since when has states start controlling the nigerian prisons
(3) please tell me who appoints the prisons comptroller general and who he is answerable to
(4) do we have state prisons and federal prisons?
(5) please tell me which of the prisons that is holding him - federal or state

with the above u can see that ur weak attempt at covering ur idolized president didnt work
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Okoroawusa: 2:48pm On Jul 26, 2019
Afamed:
Read what's called National interest in US
stop quoting that guy,abeg

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Afamed: 2:50pm On Jul 26, 2019
Newboss:


Airstrike, bro! The full compound was bombed to dust.
Lol
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by nameo: 2:50pm On Jul 26, 2019
OlujobaSamuel:
I know public interest supercede individual rights, but who determines public interest?

Only the court can determine this. Only the court.

The FUNDAMENTAL (INDIVIDUAL) HUMAN RIGHTS in the constitution is the most important part of any constitution.

Govt cannot deny an individual of his fundamental human right except expressly determined by a lawly constituted court. Any foool who has done law no this.

This is why the Govt cannot kill a confessed criminal except the court say so. It is why the Govt cannot detain any person for more than 2 days except it brings him to court and the court says so. It is why the Govt cannot take over your private property wighoiut a court order, etc etc. Those fundamental human rights( right to life, right to free movement, right to property, etc) are so sacrosanct that no body or authority except the courts can deny any individual those rights.

In fact, the only way those rights can be denied is if it those rights affects the fundamental rights of others.i.e public interest. And it is only the courts that can determine and declare this.

That Malami is advocating otherwise, tho painful to peeps like us, is not surprising at all. Afterall, he has been the chief law officer in the last 4 years in Buhari Presidency.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by cronsberg: 2:50pm On Jul 26, 2019
Diamondwriter:

Illegal immigrants abi?
Did any court of law oppose him and he ignored?
You need to understand something o. He doesn't even have that right. That's d fastest way to be kicked out of office.
And I'm sure most things you've heard about Guantanamo bay are myth
I bet most of you defending zakzaki cuz of human rights whatever dont even know that nigeria already has a law similar to the U.S patriot act. Those kind of laws allow for indefinite detentions, human rights of a person to be violated, privacy to be infringed upon, disappearances of individuals deemed dangerous to the country etc most also dont know that credible intelligence shows that iran is indeed providing weapons to shi'ites in nigeria, a lebanese guy with links to hezbollah (shi'ite terror group) was caught with massive amount of weapons in kano not long ago. Things are really happening in this country that the people dont even know, secret underground CIA type shiiittzzz
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Mordecai(m): 2:52pm On Jul 26, 2019
Who determines the issue of public vs private interests - the executive or the judiciary?

If the executive makes a presentation to the court and the court still believes the citizen should be granted bail, why should the citizen continue to be held in detention?

What these men are practising is not rule of law.

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Afamed: 2:53pm On Jul 26, 2019
Newboss:


Airstrike, bro! The full compound was bombed to dust.
https://m.youtube.com › watch
CNN: Inside the raid that killed Osama bin Laden - YouTube
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by nameo: 2:53pm On Jul 26, 2019
Okoroawusa:

You cannot overrule a court,u can either obey or disobey a court.


Donald Trump can choose to disobey a court citing national interest most especially national security

No he cannot.

That is the USA bros. Not Nigeria
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Newboss(m): 2:54pm On Jul 26, 2019
Afamed:

Lol
The way they bomb ISIS and Boko Haram hideouts was the way they bombed his hideout. In fact, his body was never found. It took DNA testing to tell he was among those killed in the strike.

There's still rumor that he's still alive.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by OlujobaSamuel: 2:56pm On Jul 26, 2019
nameo:


Only the court can determine this. Only the court.

The FUNDAMENTAL (INDIVIDUAL) HUMAN RIGHTS in the constitution is the most important part of any constitution.

Govt cannot deny an individual of his fundamental human right except expressly determined by a lawly constituted court. Any foool who has done law no this.

This is why the Govt cannot kill a confessed criminal except the court say so. It is why the Govt cannot detain any person for more than 2 days except it brings him to court and the court says so. It is why the Govt cannot take over your private property wighoiut a court order, etc etc. Those fundamental human rights( right to life, right to free movement, right to property, etc) are so sacrosanct that no body or authority except the courts can deny any individual those rights.

In fact, the only way those rights can be denied is if it those rights affects the fundamental rights of others.i.e public interest. And it is only the courts that can determine and declare this.

That Malami is advocating otherwise, tho painful to peeps like us, is not surprising at all. Afterall, he has been the chief law officer in the last 4 years in Buhari Presidency.
That should have been the question posed to him, the politicians are just using our heads. We all know public interest is above individual right.
They should have asked him how public interest is determined, is it the court, the president, a particular rule book within the executive purview that doesn't necessarily warrant a judicial pronouncement?
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Afamed: 2:56pm On Jul 26, 2019
Newboss:

The way they bomb ISIS and Boko Haram hideouts was the way they bombed his hideout. In fact, his body was never found. It took DNA testing to tell he was among those killed in the strike.

There's still rumor that he's still alive.
Lol

Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Afamed: 2:59pm On Jul 26, 2019
Newboss:

The way they bomb ISIS and Boko Haram hideouts was the way they bombed his hideout. In fact, his body was never found. It took DNA testing to tell he was among those killed in the strike.

There's still rumor that he's still alive.
You said he was killed, here you said rumors said he was alive. Which way? Watch the YouTube I sent you
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by shekauvsbuhari: 3:03pm On Jul 26, 2019
Afamed:

The supreme court has already decided that. A case of Alh Asari Dokubo Vs FG. Abaribe is just being stupid.

www.vanguardngr.com
National interest supercedes individual rights - S-Court

www.vanguardngr.com
National interest supercedes individual rights - S-Court
That is a known legal principle but it does not hold water where the courts have ruled in the individual's favour. It only applies to detaining a person over a matter for which judicial decision has not been taken or longer than allowed by law pending proper arraignment. In this case court has ruled in his favour. So keeping him in jail is illegal.

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Doyin2(m): 3:06pm On Jul 26, 2019
vanunu:


You are wrong and totally ignorant, Osama was killed outside US soil, the issue of US human right does not apply there. Same with those that are being detained in Guantano bay in Cuba.

What are you into?

So human right is not applicable outside US soil.

Rubbish talk.

A better defence would have been that Osama was killed during exchange of fire works.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Uteghe(m): 3:08pm On Jul 26, 2019
Diamondwriter:

Who's the anarchist here abeg? El zakzaky, Dasuki? Or Buhari; the one with no respect for the rule of law.

Even as crazy as people say Trump is, he can never overrule the court in America, otherwise he would have had his way with a lot of things in the name of public interest.
Has Trump encountered a citizen that runs a parallel govt,refuses to recognize constituted authority, blocks highways and constitute absolute nuisance to law abiding citizens?

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by iswallker(m): 3:08pm On Jul 26, 2019
Afamed:


It's not Malami that said Collective interest or National interest superseded individual interest. It's the Supreme court that said that.

Read from the link below.

www.vanguardngr.com
Web results
National interest supercedes individual rights - S-Courtational interest supercedes individual rights - S-Court

you know about this link which is your own guide...but the high court judge that granted bail is not as learned as you I guess..

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by tuniski: 3:09pm On Jul 26, 2019
Afamed:

Yes Saudi interest, stupid that was why the US didn't take Osama to court despite every human being has right to fair hearing in court. The interest of 300m Americans superseded the interest of just 1person ,hence the reason US didn't bother to capture Osama alive and begin to take him to court
So, US is so sound and simply took out Osama in a covert operation over a decade after 9/11 in far away Pakistan. Smart!
Arresting him will require legality and they dump his body at sea cos he was stateless as of the time.

That is how nations handle clear cases of public interest. However arresting zakzaky/dasuki then refusing due prosecution as well as violating court orders is dumb!
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by tuniski: 3:09pm On Jul 26, 2019
iswallker:


you know about this link which is your own guide...but the high court judge that granted bail is not as learned as you I guess..
Don't mind him.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Afamed: 3:10pm On Jul 26, 2019
Newboss:


Airstrike, bro! The full compound was bombed to dust.
Let me brief you quickly.
Long time after it has fully been established that Osama was in Abbotabad, only known by Barrack Obama and few intelligent member. They further needed to ascertain if truly Osama was the one just to avoid mistake of wrong identify. Even the Pakistan govt wasn't aware of his presence at Abbotabad. They secret agents took over 2 years in their findings. They went around Abbotabad pretending to be vaccine/ Polio eradicators. It was the process , they went inside the compound to give Osama children vaccine and they collected the kids saliva samples. Inside the compound , no electricity, no Radio nothing internet which would have given Osama away .It was the sample they finally used in confirming true identity of Osama.

On the day of operations, just Osama , his wives a gun around him though he made attempt to reach out to the gun.before he was shot in the head.
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Afamed: 3:13pm On Jul 26, 2019
shekauvsbuhari:
That is a known legal principle but it does not hold water where the courts have ruled in the individual's favour. It only applies to detaining a person over a matter for which judicial decision has not been taken or longer than allowed by law pending proper arraignment. In this case court has ruled in his favour. So keeping him in jail is illegal.
Senior Advocate of Nigeria. When was the supreme Court .FG vs Asari made about superiority of National interest? Was it before or after he was granted bail
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by tuniski: 3:14pm On Jul 26, 2019
Uteghe:

Has Trump encountered a citizen that runs a parallel govt,refuses to recognize constituted authority, blocks highways and constitute absolute nuisance to law abiding citizens?
Every Friday during Jumaat prayer, roads are blocked and citizens simply either bypass such roads or waited till the prayer is over.

Same with Christians during their retreats/conventions/crusades.

There are all Manners of religious organization across board that are para-military sort of. These have all been tolerated and managed but, Shiites procession is seen differently why?
Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by tuniski: 3:16pm On Jul 26, 2019
Afamed:

Senior Advocate of Nigeria. When was the supreme Court .FG vs Asari made about superiority of National interest? Was it before or after he was granted bail
It was decided by the supreme court, right? Then let the court equally determine that of zakzaky/dasuki!

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Afamed: 3:18pm On Jul 26, 2019
iswallker:


you know about this link which is your own guide...but the high court judge that granted bail is not as learned as you I guess..
Which high court granted him bail? Are you sure you are following the procedure at all?

Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by jumobi1(m): 3:19pm On Jul 26, 2019
Afamed:

Senior Advocate of Nigeria. When was the supreme Court .FG vs Asari made about superiority of National interest? Was it before or after he was granted bail

Pleas don’t tell me you’re a lawyer. You’re wrong.

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by donjahsy(m): 3:21pm On Jul 26, 2019
Afamed:

The supreme court has already decided that. A case of Alh Asari Dokubo Vs FG. Abaribe is just being stupid.

www.vanguardngr.com
National interest supercedes individual rights - S-Court

www.vanguardngr.com
National interest supercedes individual rights - S-Court
. As much as you are right, you are as well totally wrong.

It is left only for the supreme Court to decide that and not the president. That they decided it in Asari's case does not mean it should be decided in Zak Zak's. The law must be obeyed at all cost.

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Re: Ministerial Screening: Malami Speaks On El-Zakzaky by Doyin2(m): 3:24pm On Jul 26, 2019
bigfish3k:
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is this the new method the zombies are using to tell us that "he is not aware"

(1) if the state law conflicts with federal law
the federal law will supercede.
(2) since when has states start controlling the nigerian prisons
(3) please tell me who appoints the prisons comptroller general and who he is answerable to
(4) do we have state prisons and federal prisons?
(5) please tell me which of the prisons that is holding him - federal or state

with the above u can see that ur weak attempt at covering ur idolized president didnt work

Point of order!

State and federal high courts have equal jurisdictions.

The FG had been "smart" to prefer that of Kaduna court.

Very legal!

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