Hmmmmm

jaxxy:


U don’t have to be insultive. Now if she didn’t take the child where was the child then? There are certain upbringing and exposure u want for u kids even when co-parenting, do they are safe and sound. Why must the lady join such Ridiculous festivals, which such generally questionable acts or expressions and yet married an Arab even tho a Jew or xtain will also have same reservation.

Also the lady married an Arab man so there is no issue of the dads culture being wrong or an issue here exactly yet. Parents shud act responsible for their kids based on both parents beliefs. No woman wud want her baby living in certain environment like with a crime scene or gangster father. It’s same thing here.

you are not being reasonable, probably because you are muslim.
The so call arab man smokes and do drugs with his so called culture, abi smoking n drugs na part of arab culture?
A man that smokes n do drugs is a gud example for the child abi?
That the woman is part of the festival doesn't mean her child should be taken from her. I just went through the picture of the festival is not even as bad as u make it sound.
You are being ridiculous, seriously.

As a non Muslim one of the worst place you can find yourself in this world is amongst Muslims...

IamCharles123:
you are not being reasonable, probably because you are muslim.
The so call arab man smokes and do drugs with his so called culture, abi smoking n drugs na part of arab culture?
A man that smokes n do drugs is a gud example for the child abi?
That the woman is part of the festival doesn't mean her child should be taken from her. I just went through the picture of the festival is not even as bad as u make it sound.
You are being ridiculous, seriously.

I’m not Muslim and I don’t like Saudi Arabia either bt the father has a concern. Just like I said many Christians won’t like such festivals also. They probably shud not judge the woman solely on those pix bt then she’s living in Saudi and yet doing that is bound to cause issues.

Explorers:
A Washington mother, who moved to Saudi Arabia to teach at a university, lost custody of her daughter after divorcing her husband because she was too Western to raise the child, according to a Saudi court.

Bethany Vierra, 32, lost custody of her daughter four-year-old Zaina in July after the court determined that the mother was too 'new to Islam.'


'The mother is new to Islam, is a foreigner in this country, and continues to definitively embrace the customs and traditions of her upbringing.

We must avoid exposing (Zaina) to these customs and traditions, especially at this early age,' Judge Abdul-Ellah ibn Mohammed al-Tuwaijri said in his July ruling, according to CNN.


The 32-year-old student had moved to the Middle Eastern country in 2011 to teach at a local university.

Vierra's ex husband used her social media as evidence that she was allegedly living a non-Islamic lifestyle.




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7367719/Mother-32-loses-custody-battle-daughter-Saudi-Arabia-new-Islam.html

How on Earth does an American liberated woman marry a Saudi man and live with him?

Since she decided to marry him, why did she not activate her senses and learn from their women how to live with him? Especially as she was open enough to embrace Islam?

What is even verbal abuse? And the drugs? Something tells me he always did drugs.

The woman is MOST LIKELY the issue in that marriage, if any.

She had the freedom to visit her family in the US, she also had the freedom to vacation and yet she could not find a way to take her daughter away if she really was in danger.

By the time her husband is done with her, she will have sense and know where to carry her exploration and wandering to. She has forgotten she is not dealing with the American system.

The comfort and freedom she has grown up in has obviously made her lost the ability to reason strategically and logically.

Her parents sef are not helping matters.

jaxxy:


I’m not Muslim and I don’t like Saudi Arabia either bt the father has a concern. Just like I said many Christians won’t like such festivals also. They probably shud not judge the woman solely on those pix bt then she’s living in Saudi and yet doing that is bound to cause issues.

Still doesn't justify his action, a child needs her mother. The woman is still in a better position to take care of the child, i don't even think a concern father will be involved in drugs. What good example does he want to show the little girl. The guy is just bitter, still hasn't gotten over the divorce.
Its just because its saudi arabia, that's why such rubbish can happen.

CharlesJok3r:
As a non Muslim one of the worst place you can find yourself in this world is amongst Muslims...

True to that, especially all this nigeria aboki for north.

maasoap:
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If it makes you feel better about yourself, who am I to deny you happiness? But just so you know, Islam or Mohammed is not the source of the bitterness in your life

Oga,

While we all agree that the woman was stupid to leave liberty in the US and enter bondage, it does not remove the fact that it is hypocrisy to deny minorities in your land freedom while you lots clamour for same in other countries.

Anyways, I don't blame you guys. I blame the nations that have let political correctness weaken them to put you in your place.

Trump fits you guys well.

Duggedised12:
going by your logic i think all European countries should ban hijab and that ninja masqurade dress whatever it is called ,since its not the European lifestyle to wear hijab , , and if Muslims are not happy about it,they are free to get out (in your words)

And why should Europeans be obliged to allow Muslims wear Hijab if it does not suit them?

That's one thing I admire the Chinese for.

They do not care about your political correctness.

AmazonTopaz:

It is her daughter she has every right to train her as she wishes.
It is left for the daughter to decide her own path when she is an adult.
What is even wrong with the pictures do not judge a book by it's cover
@topic, What is she even doing in that country. She nor see school teach for US.
She suppose know say that is one of the worst countries for women to be in.

Every one has the right to as they wish.

They also have the responsibility to face the consequences of their actions.

bukatyne:


And why should Europeans be obliged to allow Muslims wear Hijab if it does not suit them?

That's one thing I admire the Chinese for.

They do not care about your political correctness.

did you read the comment and understood? Go back ,read and understand,maybe read slowly

jaxxy:


I don’t think so. Will u allow ur wife take ur daughter to such a place and festival? Looking at the pictures even a Nigerian dad will take offense cos u don’t know what ur kid will pick up by such exposure and experience. At this age they are receptive to many conditioning of the mind and value based on what they see arround.

Never mentioned in the post that she took her daughter to Burning Man, though she went. About 80% American ladies are like that, theyre free, they go on vacations, events, Beach, surfing in bikinis and etc. So getting married to them, one should know what they're capable of.

The husband should have talked to his ex-wife about the raising of that kid instead of doing this thing he did. Now they will likely hijabbed the girl.

The husband is not holy too now, he's a junkie. Even from him, the kid may start doing drugs.

chiommy123:
Let's be honest to ourselves is that woman really showing good example to her daughter with that pix up there

Ogun marry u there

Firebomber:


You should have show us any case where a child was taken away from their parent because the parent life is not too Christianity in those countries that you mention ... You people are just so dumb to reason with.

This is the exactly the problem I will always have with people like you who believe that whatever the reason Europeans and Americans put forward to take the children away from their parents is the best and should be the only reason.
In Nigeria, you child can't be taken away from you just because you spank your child. Likewise, your child can't be taken away from you just because your life is not too Islamic or Christian.
Can you now see how dumb you are to justify one reason and condemn one when none is applicable and can't be applicable in your country?

alphaNomega:


Prince? Female? Am I missing something here?

read this link

https://www.nairaland.com/5280371/united-arab-emirates-emirs-son

chiommy123:
Let's be honest to ourselves is that woman really showing good example to her daughter with that pix up there

Retarded

if the Islamic world had the power of the west then we would all be Muslims by now. Very hypocritical people who claim to be peaceful when in the minority till they grow in numbers and start terrorizing people. Imagine this scenerio forcefully taking a child from her ma because of those flimsy excuses. Smh.

MJBOLT:

they said she is too western to raise a child but if a court had done something similar in england,italy or spain,this religious bigots will start screaming "islamaphobia".

Forgive me if I misunderstood you.

But the same rule of law operates in Europe. Where children are forcefully put in the care system because parent(a) are deemed not to tow the party line.. By the way of sexuality and gender issues, religious persuasion or tolerance, cultural norms or practices.

The US department said it all in the article.. .. You're liable to local laws regardless your personal slant.


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tofolo:
read this link

https://www.nairaland.com/5280371/united-arab-emirates-emirs-son

Thank you. People like that Prince are the reason cocaine is illegal today.

sisisioge:


Well, she started the "wrong step" trail when she left her country to teach in theirs. Then she took the second wrong step when she married one of theirs. Then she took the wrong third step when she tried to divorce the guy in their court.

If you remember his testimony well, he claimed she went on holiday to another country/city where she showed her westernized self more. Having stayed with them for upward of 5yrs, she should have planned her escape same way she was able to plan that get away. They will never let her have the kid!

she should have watched the movie ' not without my daughter' before getting married to an Arab.

lasisi69:
But, don't try to go close their women o... I lived there for 3yrs

Agreed bro possessiveness of their women is order of the day.

Duggedised12:
going by your logic i think all European countries should ban hijab and that ninja masqurade dress whatever it is called ,since its not the European lifestyle to wear hijab , , and if Muslims are not happy about it,they are free to get out (in your words)

.. Let's be objective here. If all the European countries decides to ban hijab,and make it law,then any Muslim who refuses to stick by it should either get out or respect it. There's no two ways about it.What I'm saying is that since she is in Saudi,a Moslem country,she either obey the rules or leave.

JONNYSPUTE:
.. Let's be objective here. If all the European countries decides to ban hijab,and make it law,then any Muslim who refuses to stick by it should either get out or respect it. There's no two ways about it.What I'm saying is that since she is in Saudi,a Moslem country,she either obey the rules or leave.

we are saying the same thing, so when other non Muslim countries decide to be as strict about their lifestyle as Muslim countries are ,i hope you don't come here to shout islamophobia, and remember which side started being intolerant first. Imagine if a place like sweden that has a large population of atheist or even China gives a judgement that a person is too islamic to raise a child, i hope you keep this same energy ,just staying.

Duggedised12:
we are saying the same thing, so when other non Muslim countries decide to be as strict about their lifestyle as Muslim countries are ,i hope you don't come here to shout islamophobia, and remember which side started being intolerant first. Imagine if a place like sweden that has a large population of atheist or even China gives a judgement that a person is too islamic to raise a child, i hope you keep this same energy ,just staying.

.. I'm glad you understood me clearly. My dear,this is the only way that will make the world a better place.If I come to ur place and I don't find it comfortable to the way I live my life,what right do I ve to change it for you? The least I can do is to complain,like wise you. If she can't stay,let her get out. If I'm in America and they say I should always dress skimpy or move around unclad,if I don't like it,what do I do? I will get. So they did nothing wrong,they are only protecting their culture. Let's stop looking for trouble where there's non.

JONNYSPUTE:
.. I'm glad you understood me clearly. My dear,this is the only way that will make the world a better place.If I come to ur place and I don't find it comfortable to the way I live my life,what right do I ve to change it for you? The least I can do is to complain,like wise you. If she can't stay,let her get out. If I'm in America and they say I should always dress skimpy or move around unclad,if I don't like it,what do I do? I will get. So they did nothing wrong,they are only protecting their culture. Let's stop looking for trouble where there's non.

exactly what trump said and people were angry. Muslims in Europe are quick to demand for minority rights, anyway ,i hope non Muslims wise up and see that their tolerance is being taken advantage of as these muslims will never be tolerant to other people. And this is why i will never marry a Muslim and will raise my children to do same. We cant keep deceiving ourselves with political correctness, oil and water never mixes.

Duggedised12:
exactly what trump said and people were angry. Muslims in Europe are quick to demand for minority rights, anyway ,i hope non Muslims wise up and see that their tolerance is being taken advantage of as these muslims will never be tolerant to other people. And this is why i will never marry a Muslim and will raise my children to do same. We cant keep deceiving ourselves with political correctness, oil and water never mixes.

.. Exactly and that's the reason we are all are suffering it. Moslems are always trying to cause problem by demanding minority rights in a place they have no say but will never give a shit about other peoples rightAlso some Christians do same when they are not in their comfort zone,they sometimes knowingly or unknowingly demands for minority rights too,just like the woman is doing..So,like I said,until will start respecting each others dos and donts,we can't make a way.Let's stop fighting what we cannot stop,that's what brings misunderstanding and leads to war.

JONNYSPUTE:
.. Exactly and that's the reason we are all are suffering it. Moslems are always trying to cause problem by demanding minority rights in a place they have no say but will never give a shit about other peoples rightAlso some Christians do same when they are not in their comfort zone,they sometimes knowingly or unknowingly demands for minority rights too,just like the woman is doing..So,like I said,until will start respecting each others dos and donts,we can't make a way.Let's stop fighting what we cannot stop,that's what brings misunderstanding and leads to war.

Exactly, i actually blame her for marrying him, these are things we have to teach our kids as non muslims so we don't get caught off guard. They already teach their kids in the mosques to see non Muslims as infidels and arin (dont know the correct spelling) but non Muslims are in denial and want to be politically correct. I hope people learn from this and see it for what it is ,tolerance is a fallacy until you have it on both sides not one sided and until then, we have to see them as they see us.

Duggedised12:
Exactly, i actually blame her for marrying him, these are things we have to teach our kids as non muslims so we don't get caught off guard. They already teach their kids in the mosques to see non Muslims as infidels and arin (dont know the correct spelling) but non Muslims are in denial and want to be politically correct. I hope people learn from this and see it for what it is ,tolerance is a fallacy until you have it on both sides not one sided and until then, we have to see them as they see us.

Very correct my dear.All of us,Christians and Moslems should start resetting our mindsets to make this world a better place to live. Note. Another world war will soon start because of this moslem and Christian wahala.

Duggedised12:
we are saying the same thing, so when other non Muslim countries decide to be as strict about their lifestyle as Muslim countries are ,i hope you don't come here to shout islamophobia, and remember which side started being intolerant first. Imagine if a place like sweden that has a large population of atheist or even China gives a judgement that a person is too islamic to raise a child, i hope you keep this same energy ,just staying.

Muslims dont even allow non-muslims to hold sensitive positions in countries they regard as muslim one but wail of islamophobia when anyone suggests a country is christianity based. Very big bigots they are.

JONNYSPUTE:

Very correct my dear.All of us,Christians and Moslems should start resetting our mindsets to make this world a better place to live. Note. Another world war will soon start because of this moslem and Christian wahala.

are we not fighting a war already? All the terrorists and jihadist spread allover the world are what? . if a full blown war will start we know who the first to draw blood will be , anyway have a nice day.

Duggedised12:
are we not fighting a war already? All the terrorists and jihadist spread allover the world are what? . if a full blown war will start we know who the first to draw blood will be , anyway have a nice day.

.. Take care.

JONNYSPUTE:

Very correct my dear.All of us,Christians and Moslems should start resetting our mindsets to make this world a better place to live. Note. Another world war will soon start because of this moslem and Christian wahala.

Muslims should stop being bigots in so called muslim nations while making inordimate demands in non muslim countries.