Introduction

From all corners of the globe, slogans of freedom are constantly chanted. The call for freedom of speech, children wanting their freedom, women demanding freedom, etc, are commonly heard. The demand for freedom has spiralled out of proportion to such an extent that children want ‘freedom’ from their aged parents. Parents want ‘freedom’ from their children. As a result in most instances there is gross neglect of responsibilities which eventually ends up in a total breakdown of the structure of society.

Rashduct4luv:
I like this topic so much. It is completely baffling! The parent has full control of a kid when he is born but hardly retains 20% of the control before the kid clocks 20!
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This freedom culture is what the west brought us.

Caution has been thrown to the wind.

Ladies becoming more & more objects of sexual gratification as they are only know for the contours on their body.

Men are becoming more irresponsible.

Adolescents are getting more involved in music, drugs and fornication.

LGBT+(Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Asexual) are gaining more recruits as the day goes by.

Parents are more arrogant as well as the kids are ignorant. Arrogance and ignorance can also be interchanged. And in some cases parents and kids suffer from acute arrogance and ignorance to the injunction of Allah.

We ask Allah to grant us success in this world and may He not let us lose the hereafter for this world. Aamin.

Olanipekun1:
sorry you can decide to stay in your prison
yes it's a prison that's why bokoharam choose and consolidate on the ideology of extreme and total sharia

next thing is that they'll tell you that Islam is a religion of peace
can you be in prison and be at peace

forget all these people parading as peaceful Muslim and liberal they're just deceiving the public and themselves because an average Muslim is an extremist.

bokoharam ISIS and the rest of Islam terrorists are the only true Muslims practicing the real teachings of Muhammad SAW
others are just semi kafirs. All the Christians involved in shooting in the USA are the real Christians and you are just a semi-christain. The last time I checked there are many violent verses in the bible.

Assalamualaikum

Olanipekun1:
sorry you can decide to stay in your prison
yes it's a prison that's why bokoharam choose and consolidate on the ideology of extreme and total sharia

next thing is that they'll tell you that Islam is a religion of peace
can you be in prison and be at peace

forget all these people parading as peaceful Muslim and liberal they're just deceiving the public and themselves because an average Muslim is an extremist.

bokoharam ISIS and the rest of Islam terrorists are the only true Muslims practicing the real teachings of Muhammad SAW
others are just semi kafirs

Assalamualaikum

Modernist:
First of all it's Allah Subhwanna tala or How ever it's spelt

Secondly Why did you cherry pick the points needed for your propaganda? Are you trying to say that Only bad things emanate from total freedom? What has orthodoxy Brought to this modern times other than Chao and destruction? Discord and Malice. Every one Wants freedom and it'd part of That freedom Your enjoying that makes you Still alive, gives you Western education etc.

Olanipekun1:
sorry you can decide to stay in your prison
yes it's a prison that's why bokoharam choose and consolidate on the ideology of extreme and total sharia

next thing is that they'll tell you that Islam is a religion of peace
can you be in prison and be at peace

forget all these people parading as peaceful Muslim and liberal they're just deceiving the public and themselves because an average Muslim is an extremist.

bokoharam ISIS and the rest of Islam terrorists are the only true Muslims practicing the real teachings of Muhammad SAW
others are just semi kafirs

Assalamualaikum

Rashduct4luv:


Can you make a list of the good and bad that emanate from this freedom culture and let's put them on a scale?

Freedom to Western Education is not among what OP is discussing. We all have a right to sane education.

Olanipekun1:
sorry you can decide to stay in your prison
yes it's a prison that's why bokoharam choose and consolidate on the ideology of extreme and total sharia

next thing is that they'll tell you that Islam is a religion of peace
can you be in prison and be at peace

forget all these people parading as peaceful Muslim and liberal they're just deceiving the public and themselves because an average Muslim is an extremist.

bokoharam ISIS and the rest of Islam terrorists are the only true Muslims practicing the real teachings of Muhammad SAW
others are just semi kafirs

Assalamualaikum

Modernist:
Are you saying that Orthodoxy is insane ?





This freedom has brought Equality between both genders
Brought Interconnectedness between Member of all race, why because before a cleric can just wake up one day and declare another race to be Satanic. but freedom of association has made that impossible.
Freedom of speech as your enjoying now
Freedom in its self because Arabs or Europeans Would have bought You
People can now express themselves freely and be whatever they want to be gay lesbian etc because they're free to and Anyone who has a problem with it should look away.

Modernist:
Are you saying that Orthodoxy is insane ?

This freedom has brought Equality between both genders
Brought Interconnectedness between Member of all race, why because before a cleric can just wake up one day and declare another race to be Satanic. but freedom of association has made that impossible.
Freedom of speech as your enjoying now
Freedom in its self because Arabs or Europeans Would have bought You
People can now express themselves freely and be whatever they want to be gay lesbian etc because they're free to and Anyone who has a problem with it should look away.

Rashduct4luv:


Where is the Equality? There is no gender equality anywhere until men start carrying the foetus for their wives. Man and Woman can not be equal. You may talk about Equity never Equality. We are not created similarly.

All the freedom you mentioned above has limitations.
Gayism and Lesbianism attracts 14 years imprisonment if found guilty.

This kind of free expression of gayism/lesbianism is what we go against. It is complete foolishness and opposite to the natural law.

Modernist:
Oh come on, science has made it possible for men to carry foetus, get in touch with the times

the equality I'm talking about is In terms of rights and privileges, don't misunderstand me Equal pay, Equal opportunity etc.


Except for the homosexuality which you stated the has limitations in Nigeria and other countries. Besides why should you be concerned about what People do with themselves or in their privacy i see it as foolishness as long as it's not harming you in anyway there's no need to nag and have headache about

And you just shot yourself in the foot what you may see as unnatural may be natural to some We are not created similarly As you rightly stated above.

Lukgaf:




The demand for freedom has further progressed into the sphere of religion. No longer do people wish to be ‘restrained’ by religion. Instead, there is a general crave for freedom. At times, it is a desire for total freedom from religion, whilst in other cases the demand is for some form of ‘relaxation’ in some aspects of religion. Statements like, ‘orthodox’, ‘old fashioned’, ‘backwards ‘ etc are all the products of this drive towards freedom. Deen is not the invention of any human. It is not something that can be fashioned according to a person’s taste. Allah Ta`ala declared the Deen of Islam to be perfect. Hence, demanding some form of relaxation means that –Allah forbid- Deen is incomplete.

Careful reflection will reveal that this world has been designed in such a way that it is impossible to enjoy total freedom. No government or organisation advocates complete freedom. Instead, there is and will always be some degree of restriction in order to have a balanced society. Today, the promoters of freedom themselves hold their heads in bewilderment over the ‘monster’ they have created. The thirst for freedom can never be quenched. It goes on until the individual demands complete freedom- freedom to do whatever he or she pleases. Freedom from marital obligations, from morals, modesty, freedom from everything including-Allah Forbid- even religion and God!

Let us take a cursory glance at those communities that have embraced this ‘free culture’. What is the result? Daughter impregnated by her own biological father. Mother mercilessly murdered by her own child for a few pennies of life insurance. Innocent children abused for the satisfaction of desires. Why? All this is the result of the ‘free culture’ wherein there is absolutely no restriction as to what an individual may do in order to gratify himself. Over and above all of this is the effort made, again in the name of ’freedom’, to justify some of these heinous, hair rising, despicable acts!

Perhaps this drive has been fuelled by the passion for entertainment and desire for enjoyment. The focal point of people’s lives has become entertainment. A holiday barely comes to an end when the next is already planned. Families are sacrificed for the sake of entertainment. Problems creep into a new marriage when the husband is too busy with his friends entertaining himself. Children are discarded in day care centres because their parents ‘need’ to have some time to themselves. Jobs are jeopardised because of entertainment, etc, etc.

Complete freedom will be enjoyed only in the hereafter. Every person, in his or her capacity, has some level of responsibility in this world. A husband has the responsibility of his wife. Parents have the responsibility of the correct upbringing of their children. Children have the responsibility of taking care of the parents. Teachers shoulder the responsibility of the students. An employee has the responsibility of performing as per the demands of the job. Thus there is no escape from responsibility. Nabi ṣallallāhu 'alayhi wa sallam (peace and blessings of Allāh be upon him) is reported to have said, “Each one of you is a shepherd and each one of you will be questioned regarding his flock”.

Whilst there is no objection to entertainment when it is within the parameters of Shariah, the culture of fun and entertainment which has erupted is in NO way justifiable. Likewise, the ‘free culture’ as well is in contradiction with the teachings of our pure and pristine Sharia`h. Nabi sallallahu alaihi wasallam is reported to have said, “The world is a prison for the Believer and paradise for the disbeliever”(Muslim). Just as a prisoner cannot behave as he wishes, likewise a mu`min cannot do whatever he pleases in this world. He is bound and restricted by the command of his loving Master, Allah Ta`ala.

Source: alhaadi.org.za via https://jamiat.org.za/freedom-or-destruction/