DAVE5:


modernize the market by building shops(rows of flats) that would be too expensive for the former occupants, is that really development

So they should leave it to be as smelly and useless as it is?

kcool360:
I just pray the traders are compensated

For what??

For creating a smelly place

There's this rotten air and dirty water that oozes out of that market constantly.

That place has been a sore eyesight for too long and if reconstruction is the way forward, so be it.

People that refuse to move ahead and develop themselves will always be left behind.

We can't keep delaying progress because of sentiment.

I don't understand this Country again, What does it take the traders to vacate the market after been told to do so, and why can't the engineers show mercy by giving them an hour to pack up. And yet we wonder why the number of poor people are on the increase.

9jaRealist:


We should forgo these crappy zink "markets", and build real modern markets...
With proper storage facilities, security, banking facilities, ambulatory services, etc.

PEOPLE'S HEALTH IS AT STAKE![
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Oga, you call it a fruit market, try and visualize the type of airy structures that most of them need, even upon giving it a modern touch, except you are thinking of their usual method of dislodging 5,000 law abiding average traders to bring in 200 wealthy ones or just 2 South African companies in the name of modernization.

You allow people to grow into it. You want only the markets to look like Europe, while the pockets of the people are not and our leaders are not even thinking like European leaders. And our roads are not. We'll wait to see how much they will ask then to pay just like the Ogba Retail Market.

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[s]Enemy of progress. You say 2.5billin is too much to construct a modern market on 25acrea of land, are you for real, face reality this is Lagos and not your village [[/s]/quote]

Mediocre,
You suddenly reduced it to N2.5b. I still try to visualize carving out 25 acres from that place after the massive terminal. You call it a fruit market, go and see how such markets look, even in Europe. Nigerian usual style is to dislodge 5,000 poor people to bring in 200 others.
Why is the government primarily interested in modernizing markets, where people already bitten by economic hardship, are hustling? We'll wait to see how much you ask them to pay after, just like Ogba Retail Market.

There are a lot of derelict health centres and schiols to modernize. But the market will involve the people to pay. By the way, we never read the request for tender for the market construction anywhere.

adesbreath:
Am very happy about this...I went there talking to them about keeping their fruits and vegetables properly not on the dirty floor they said I was speaking Spanish..the whole market is terribly dirty...will miss buying fruits from there but our health is more important...
Lagos government this is the way to go. Thumbs up.

Do you just start consuming your fruits immediately you pick it up from the market? Then you must be a dirty person yourself.

9jaRealist:


People complain about filth and unhealthy conditions...
But when the govt acts to modernize and clean up conditions, same folks complain.
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cleanup is different from displacing people without compensation or telling them when to come back.
The oppressors don't make excuses for their actions rather it's the oppressed that helps the oppressors to make excuses.
If it's about cleanup,why is lawma there?

9jaRealist:


Abegi read the story not just headlines....
They are not building "rows of flats" but modernizing the market.
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Ofcourse, that's what they would say, So who is modernizing the market the Lagos state Government or Developers?


And what is the Guarantee that The Government would alocate the modernized shops to these people who have been trading there for years? Or if they could even Afford the Modernized shops.

9jaRealist:




Why should they get compensated when even they admitted being given notices but chose to ignore it...
The level of IMPUNITY in Nigeria is mind-boggling, from the top (a President who ignores court orders) to the bottom.
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Nigerians are Alergic to obeying rules and responding to Notices. They would wait till the Zero minutes.

The people are recalcitrant; The government is also so unloving.
They would have saved billions by more notifications!

jclassiq:


Do you just start consuming your fruits immediately you pick it up from the market? Then you must be a dirty person yourself.

Even the fruits in parkets bought from the Supermaket still needs to be washed before consumption. but i don't think that is what he meant. Or perhaps it is.

Sanwoolu is a terrible leader.

philbad:
This is wickedness not that you shouldn't do this but these are the people you governing, why didn't u let them take away there goods, they might proof stubborn but you shouldn't destroy there life like this. Shameless government

Agree...
Even though the traders were being ‘lawless’.
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DAVE5:
modernize the market by building shops(rows of flats) that would be too expensive for the former occupants, is that really development

engrchykae:
cleanup is different from displacing people without compensation or telling them when to come back.
The oppressors don't make excuses for their actions rather it's the oppressed that helps the oppressors to make excuses.
If it's about cleanup,why is lawma there?

gypsey:
Ofcourse, that's what they would say, So who is modernizing the market the Lagos state Government or Developers?

And what is the Guarantee that The Government would alocate the modernized shops to these people who have been trading there for years? Or of they could even Afford the Modernized shops.

Issues of PUBLIC HEALTH and safety should not be compromised...
The health of the citizenry is not an area where we should be RACING TO THE BOTTOM.

The reality is that if you go to many markets in Lagos/Nigeria, you will not eat for a while...
Goods and produce are placed on the floor (even on the streets), while meat is often covered in flies.

Then, when folks drop dead at a relatively young age...
The largely superstitious citizens will blame “village people”!

People often look at the price of doing things rather the cost of not doing same...
But if we continue to neglect public health, EVERYONE ultimately pays the price (one way or another).
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Gracealone:
Oga, you call it a fruit market, try and visualize the type of airy structures that most of them need, even upon giving it a modern touch, except you are thinking of their usual method of dislodging 5,000 law abiding average traders to bring in 200 wealthy ones or just 2 South African companies in the name of modernization.

You allow people to grow into it. You want only the markets to look like Europe, while the pockets of the people are not and our leaders are not even thinking like European leaders. And our roads are not. We'll wait to see how much they will ask then to pay just like the Ogba Retail Market.

You act as if Nigeria is the only place where fruit markets exist...
Modern fruit markets litter the globe and even here in NIGERIA, Emmanuel Ijewere’s Fresh Farms have inexpensive modern fruit stalls.

Meanwhile, while my post had nothing to do with large grocery stores or chains, suffice it to note that even those SA companies (apparently some Nigerians are just as xenophobic, but just not yet as violently so) depend on LOCAL NIGERIAN farmers, suppliers, logistics, security, etc. Accordingly, apart from the HUNDREDS OF NIGERIANS that they directly employ, they also generate HUNDREDS of other NIGERIAN JOBS all along the value chain. Heck, if that’s the best way to ensure clean healthy produce, more power to them.
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I don't really get your rants
So because there are derelict hospitals we should leave our markets derelict also .

engrchykae:
cleanup is different from displacing people without compensation or telling them when to come back.
The oppressors don't make excuses for their actions rather it's the oppressed that helps the oppressors to make excuses.
If it's about cleanup,why is lawma there?

There’s only so much you can do to clean-up a pit latrine (in fact, you can’t)...
What this PPP seeks to do is akin to replacing a pit latrine with a sanitized flush system.

Sometimes, the only way to change habits is by structural change...
That’s a metaphor for Nigeria itself! But if it’s your idea of “oppression”, sign me up.
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Onlydaughter:
Fruit market where they sell fruits at a higher price.

Well the advantage is that the place MIGHT become cleaner.
Ketu actually needs fresh air.

As in the market is so muddy and dirty.

Are they not tired of dirt, mud and stinking smell in that market?

Government try in that direction.

Kudos jare!

booblacain:


OK, so where do you know in Lagos that is smellier than that Ketu - Mile 12 market corridor?

You're just lumping mile 12 with it. You earlier described Ketu fruit market as the dirtiest.

All ijoras (Badia, Olopa and the other one) are dirtier than both

Becos we don't buy it cheap either, goat
Ketu fruit market is the only place u can get fruits at cheap rates in the whole of lagos FYI

Onlydaughter:
Fruit market where they sell fruits at a higher price.

Well the advantage is that the place MIGHT become cleaner.
Ketu actually needs fresh air.

farem:


You're just lumping mile 12 with it. You earlier described Ketu fruit market as the dirtiest.

All ijoras (Badia, Olopa and the other one) are dirtier than both

For one, that Fruit market is situated just at the boundary between ketu and mile 12, so I refer to it has ketu/mile12 market. Secondly, I never referred to it as the "dirtiest" place, I said it was the "smelliest", two different things.

victorian:





As in the market is so muddy and dirty.

Are they not tired of dirt, mud and stinking smell in that market?

Government try in that direction.

Kudos jare!

all of you saying the market stinks....
how do you expect a fruit market to smell? bsides, have you ever seen any heap of refuse in that place like you see in some other markets?

Maybe it's Olusosun dumpsite that's confusing you

ikorodureporta:


no b English, na pidgin

Ok

ikorodureporta:

all of you saying the market stinks....
how do you expect a fruit market to smell? bsides, have you ever seen any heap of refuse in that place like you see in some other markets?

Maybe it's Olusosun dumpsite that's confusing you

But it stinks. Let the truth be told.
That's why people like me, who would have loved to buy fruits in baskets from that market will Never go there.
Assuming it was neat, the market will experience more patronage that it has ever experienced.
Middle class, average class, even the rich will buy from there.

But as it is before it was demolished, it's only some class of people that goes there to buy or people who do not care about cleanliness.

Government try! Let them demolish and turn that place into a clean and structured market .

DAVE5:


Everyday I wish I had Superman’s powers mehn...

Nah to dey tackle the full government from their offices to the beds they sleep on

Sad part is I can’t do shit about anything, if 1 youth stands up to fight the government, there’s 1000 more youth that would oppose his ideas, all it takes is to tip off the kings of thugs across all the ruins of Lagos/Nigeria

Exactly

jclassiq:


Do you just start consuming your fruits immediately you pick it up from the market? Then you must be a dirty person yourself.

Keep quiet small mind.

Switruth:
. Boss can you list me the number of projects that calls for urgent attention more than market demolition. ?

Are you asking me or the person am replying.. ??