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The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 8:18am On Dec 17, 2019
The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly

Jesus wasn't a good preacher...

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

What type of perfect role model is this to follow? He went around insulting people while he preached, while at the same time he told his followers to show love to their enemies? He even went so far as calling one of his disciples "Satan"!! Why couldn't Jesus be more patient and hold his tongue?

Jesus even got a bit physical at times...

John 2:15
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"

What authority did Jesus have to do such a thing? This story seems to teach us that vigilantism is okay at times.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by Nobody: 8:29am On Dec 17, 2019
And yet His message is the most circulated of all messages.

Jesus must have been a genius!

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Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 8:39am On Dec 17, 2019
jesusjnr:
And yet His message is the most circulated of all messages.

Jesus must have been a genius!

You Snake!
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by harlems02: 8:51am On Dec 17, 2019
And yet the Bible told us He taught more than 5,000 people on the mountain. They followed Him everywhere He went to. U beta stop all these you are doing.

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Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 8:54am On Dec 17, 2019
harlems02:
And yet the Bible told us He taught more than 5,000 people on the mountain. They followed Him everywhere He went to. U beta stop all these you are doing.

Even his disciples does not understand him.

Mark 9:30-32
They went on from there and passed through Galilee. And he would not have any one know it; for he was teaching his disciples, saying to them, 'The Son of man will be delivered into the hands of men, and they will kill him; and when he is killed, after three days he will rise.' But they did not understand the saying, and they were afraid to ask him."

Luke 18:31-34
"And taking the twelve, he said to them, 'Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written of the Son of man by the prophets will be accomplished. For he will be delivered to the Gentiles, and will be mocked and shamefully treated and spit upon; they will scourge him and kill him, and on the third day he will rise.' But they understood none of these things; this saying was hid from them, and they did not grasp what was said."

The crowds may have followed him because of the news of the miracles just like Christians of today are mostly Miracle peddlers and Prosperity preachers! That is if there was even any crowd!
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by Nobody: 9:00am On Dec 17, 2019
AntiChristian:


You Snake!
Yes, "snake" of God!

Not snake of the devil which you are. Exodus 7:10-12

So expect to be swallowed up by a "snake" of God.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 9:03am On Dec 17, 2019
jesusjnr:
Yes, "snake" of God!

Not snake of the devil which you are. Exodus 7:10-12

So expect to be swallowed up by a "snake" of God.

Get behind me Satan!

You can as well call yourself "Satan'' of God. Christianity don blind this one.

Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."Matthew 16:23

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Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by Subduer: 9:07am On Dec 17, 2019
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Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by Nobody: 9:20am On Dec 17, 2019
AntiChristian:


Get behind me Satan!

You can as well call yourself "Satan'' of God. Christianity don blind this one.

Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."Matthew 16:23
I hope you had a mirror in front of you while saying the bolded otherwise you just wasted that rebuke. It's not too late though, if you can get a mirror and repeat those same words.

Satan has his snakes while God also has His:

Exodus 7:10-12 (KJV)

And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.
Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.
For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.


The snakes of Satan got swallowed up by God's snake!

That's what would eventually happen to you if you remain a snake of Satan.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 9:21am On Dec 17, 2019
jesusjnr:
I hope you had a mirror in front of you while saying the bolded otherwise you just wasted that rebuke. It's not too late though, if you can get a mirror and repeat those same words.

Satan has his snakes while God also has His:

Exodus 7:10-12 (KJV)

And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.
Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.
For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.


The snakes of Satan got swallowed up by God's snake!

That's what would eventually happen to you if you remain a snake of Satan.

Get behind me Satan!

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Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 11:26am On Dec 17, 2019
AntiChristian:
The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly

Jesus wasn't a good preacher...

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

What type of perfect role model is this to follow? He went around insulting people while he preached, while at the same time he told his followers to show love to their enemies? He even went so far as calling one of his disciples "Satan"!! Why couldn't Jesus be more patient and hold his tongue?

Jesus even got a bit physical at times...

John 2:15
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"

What authority did Jesus have to do such a thing? This story seems to teach us that vigilantism is okay at times.

Cherry picking, or your number of pages in your bible is incomplete. try again
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 3:22pm On Dec 17, 2019
fortran123:


Cherry picking, or your number of pages in your bible is incomplete. try again

Copy out your own Bible verses for Matthew 23:33, Luke 11:40, Matthew 16:23, John 2:15.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 6:19pm On Dec 17, 2019
AntiChristian:


Copy out your own Bible verses for Matthew 23:33, Luke 11:40, Matthew 16:23, John 2:15.
Out of all the statements he made you pick like 5 and say he can't preach. What sort of analysis is that?
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by Lightangel65: 6:43pm On Dec 17, 2019
Mr antichristain no matter how hard you try to taint something that is truely pure, I can't be tainted. Why not sit down and meditate on the Bible instead of finding faults in it.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by princevinco(m): 8:44pm On Dec 17, 2019
@AntiChristian,
I DON'T BLAME YOU BUT PITY YOU BECAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE A DEMON POSSESSED PERSON. PLEASE PRAY FOR ANTICHRISTAIN'S DELIVERANCE BECAUSE HE/SHE IS NOT NORMAL.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by Nobody: 7:34am On Dec 18, 2019
FRUSTRATION comes when you're trying to refute what is obvious or when you're battling to establish what is not true!

Let's play along with you saying Jesus of the Bible don't know how to preach properly.

At least there should be a comparison to showcase a better preaching technique from another prophet or messenger of Allah.

So can you just PRESENT, POINT, SHOW, TELL, DIRECT people to a messenger of Allah having a better preaching technique?

And don't forget to present also the result of such technique as the adherents go about doing what is lovable, joyous, peace loving, patient, kind, good, mild, faithful and tolerant amongst human society! Galatians 5:22-23

There is just one simple logic to uncover such a riddle!
THEORY
PRACTICAL APPLICATION and
BENEFIT


We can compare Jesus' teaching techniques to THEORIES, his explanations regarding such teaching is the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS and the effect of his group in the first century Jewish society the BENEFITS!

So can you use the same logic to showcase any other teacher's achievement?

Because a messenger of Allah centuries before the arrival of Jesus described Jesus as a WONDERFUL COUNSELOR (excellent teacher)!Isaiah 9:6 undecided
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 7:58am On Dec 18, 2019
princevinco:
@AntiChristian,
I DON'T BLAME YOU BUT PITY YOU BECAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE A DEMON POSSESSED PERSON. PLEASE PRAY FOR ANTICHRISTAIN'S DELIVERANCE BECAUSE HE/SHE IS NOT NORMAL.

grin
I came here to deliver you from the shackles of the bondage of lies in the bible.

Get behind me Satan!

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Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 8:00am On Dec 18, 2019
fortran123:

Out of all the statements he made you pick like 5 and say he can't preach. What sort of analysis is that?

Five is not OK abi, Do you need more? grin Please reply. I can see you are very active in the Islamic section. Be active here too!
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by vickydankal(f): 9:43am On Dec 18, 2019
1 cor 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned


You came from the point view of criticism, of you are asking brethren will clarify you, but unfortunately you have drawn your conclusions. Thus the bible said.
2 Tim 2:23 - 24

23.Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.
24. And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 10:37am On Dec 18, 2019
AntiChristian:


Five is not OK abi, Do you need more? grin Please reply. I can see you are very active in the Islamic section. Be active here too!

The point is you pick it all out of context, you do not know the history surrounding any of the scenarios. Jesus was not afraid to speak and he did not sugar coat his words. Do some study and not just pick what seems to you as "violent".
PS: I am not expecting more I need a strong argument not just random verses.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 11:15am On Dec 18, 2019
fortran123:


The point is you pick it all out of context, you do not know the history surrounding any of the scenarios. Jesus was not afraid to speak and he did not sugar coat his words. Do some study and not just pick what seems to you as "violent".
PS: I am not expecting more I need a strong argument not just random verses.

Now Open your Bible and explain the context!

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

John 2:15
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 12:53pm On Dec 18, 2019
AntiChristian:


Now Open your Bible and explain the context!

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

John 2:15
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"

Read the whole chapter don't be lazy. I dnt see anything wrong in these statements. He is not asking or advocating violence against anyone. He Pharisees were very corrupt people, read the history about how they partnered with the Roman government to extort people and all the embezzlement they were involved in.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 2:42pm On Dec 18, 2019
fortran123:


Read the whole chapter don't be lazy. I dnt see anything wrong in these statements. He is not asking or advocating violence against anyone. He Pharisees were very corrupt people, read the history about how they partnered with the Roman government to extort people and all the embezzlement they were involved in.

When you preach to Muslims and other non-Christians have you ever copied this example?
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 3:17pm On Dec 18, 2019
AntiChristian:


When you preach to Muslims and other non-Christians have you ever copied this example?
I don't preach to Muslims I gist with them. Personalities are different i don't expect every one to be alike.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 8:14am On Dec 19, 2019
fortran123:

I don't preach to Muslims I gist with them. Personalities are different i don't expect every one to be alike.

So tell us how many times your Pastors have called you guys foolish, Snakes and Satan since your are all Christ-like in behavior?
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 9:20am On Dec 19, 2019
AntiChristian:


So tell us how many times your Pastors have called you guys foolish, Snakes and Satan since your are all Christ-like in behavior?
You tried with me it did not work now you want me speaking for a pastor. People are different we do not have the same temperament and you know this. Your case here is dead on arrival. Bring me something else. What do you stand for so I can know how best to communicate with you.

PS: Jesus was not speaking like this to his disciples. Bring me an actual crime he committed.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 10:57am On Dec 19, 2019
fortran123:

You tried with me it did not work now you want me speaking for a pastor. People are different we do not have the same temperament and you know this. Your case here is dead on arrival. Bring me something else. What do you stand for so I can know how best to communicate with you.

PS: Jesus was not speaking like this to his disciples. Bring me an actual crime he committed.

He was not speaking like this? Do you mean I am a liar? or the Bible verses I quoted is erroneous? The Bible must have lied that Jesus the Christian God called people snakes, foolish and even called Peter Satan!
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 12:48pm On Dec 19, 2019
AntiChristian:


He was not speaking like this? Do you mean I am a liar? or the Bible verses I quoted is erroneous? The Bible must have lied that Jesus the Christian God called people snakes, foolish and even called Peter Satan!

Listen to yourself. Let me logically analyse what I said " he did not speak to his disciples like this" am sure you are aware he spoke to several people not just his disciples. The people he called snakes etc are the religious leaders cos of their conduct.
So can you see all your argument makes no sense. Like I stated earlier people have different temperaments. Not everyone is soft spoken. Jesus does not sugar coat words and his words are evidence.
I do not see any crime committed. Bring me something else. Is this the best you can come up with? Also what do you stand for.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 1:40pm On Dec 19, 2019
fortran123:


Listen to yourself. Let me logically analyse what I said " he did not speak to his disciples like this" am sure you are aware he spoke to several people not just his disciples. The people he called snakes etc are the religious leaders cos of their conduct.
So can you see all your argument makes no sense. Like I stated earlier people have different temperaments. Not everyone is soft spoken. Jesus does not sugar coat words and his words are evidence.
I do not see any crime committed. Bring me something else. Is this the best you can come up with? Also what do you stand for.

Your God called one of his disciple Satan!
Let me call you satan too!
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 2:58pm On Dec 19, 2019
AntiChristian:


Your God called one of his disciple Satan!
Let me call you satan too!
Lol. He made a statement he was not refering to Peter. Bring up another case. This one is dead. Can't you see your argument is lame? It needs crutches

Bring your strong point, am waiting.
Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by AntiChristian: 8:40pm On Dec 19, 2019
fortran123:

Lol. He made a statement he was not refering to Peter. Bring up another case. This one is dead. Can't you see your argument is lame? It needs crutches

Bring your strong point, am waiting.

Get behind me Satan!

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