Let me start from the beginning and be detailed.

I drive a sienna 2000, the document is in my mum's name and the driver license and documents share same surname.

I was hauling 50 cartons of biscuit the receipt is in my name, you can't know I am carrying biscuit unless you peep into the vehicle and no my glass is clear not tinted. I hope we are on the same page?

I was flagged down by yellow fever women, I parked and greet ask for my documents and I handed it over, she now said where is your hackney permit I told her it's my personal car a private vehicle she now flared up that she was gonna delay me fuming and all but my passenger a female talked to her and she let us go Sha.

Before that one, VIO stopped me at Epe and asked for all ask able lights (reverse, brake, side indicator etc) after they saw my paper was complete I was carrying full load my friends from work, they now said I had a private number and was running commercial operation, I explained to him Sha and he asked me to indicate names of some passenger, when I said a funny nickname of one passenger he laughed and asked me to go.

I have noticed that sometimes when I reach bus stops some agbero would also run banging the car saying "make we shadow, shey make we shadow" even passengers do rush to the door shouting all kinds of area.

Is the sienna categorized as a commercial vehicle in Nigeria?

Also a private vehicle used to carry personal goods, should it also have hackney permit?

Welcome to Naija where the law enforcement agents are enforcing money into their pockets instead of enforcing laws. A policeman stopped me here in PH and told me point blank that my papers are complete but I won’t go until I give him 1K to do weekend. I was shocked.

Any vehicle can be used as a commercial vehicle. Sienna or anyone else so far you have the correct license plates fixed on. Now if you are caught running commercial operations with your private vehicle l you can be penalized. For example, picking fare-paying passengers or haulage beyond a minimum I don't know exactly though.

Sienna is a popular commercial vehicle so I guess it's been stereotyped along that line. I once used a Hilux with private license plates and Road safety usually disturbed saying a truck should have commercial plates because they are used for hauling stuff. Now my current Hilux has a commercial plate but commercial local govt papers no dey ever finish especially if you move across a wide region.

As a commercial vehicle carrying load you need a hackney permit but with a private vehicle you don't however, you'll be penalized if you carry overload.

laivwire:
Any vehicle can be used as a commercial vehicle. Sienna or anyone else so far you have the correct license plates fixed on. Now if you are caught running commercial operations with your private vehicle l you can be penalized. For example, picking fare-paying passengers or haulage beyond a minimum I don't know exactly though.

Sienna is a popular commercial vehicle so I guess it's been stereotyped along that line. I once used a Hilux with private license plates and Road safety usually disturbed saying a truck should have commercial plates because they are used for hauling stuff. Now my current Hilux has a commercial plate but commercial local govt papers no dey ever finish especially if you move across a wide region.

As a commercial vehicle carrying load you need a hackney permit but with a private vehicle you don't however, you'll be penalized if you carry overload.

Any vehicle registered, either commercial or private (registration) for the purpose of haulage of people or goods is required to have hackney permit.

Recently, most commercial vehicle owners have preferred to opt for private registration and obtain hackney permit as a license to carry goods or passengers. Reason is the current high cost of road worthinesss which will give them only six months if registered with commercial numbered plate.

pattybf:


Any vehicle registered, either commercial or private (registration) for the purpose of haulage of people or goods is required to have hackney permit.

Recently, most commercial vehicle owners have preferred to opt for private registration and obtain hackney permit as a license to carry goods or passengers. Reason is the current high cost of road worthinesss which will give them only six months if registered with commercial numbered plate.

I don't use the vehicle for commercial purpose, any goods it carries is mine but I always ensure the goods don't show through the window cause FRSC can tag the vehicle as cargo vehicle.

Even the government staffs can't know haulage sienna from none but should take the word of the driver as truth as long as that road is there jurisdiction and they don't see me carry load up and down that route

pattybf:


Any vehicle registered, either commercial or private (registration) for the purpose of haulage of people or goods is required to have hackney permit.

Recently, most commercial vehicle owners have preferred to opt for private registration and obtain hackney permit as a license to carry goods or passengers. Reason is the current high cost of road worthinesss which will give them only six months if registered with commercial numbered plate.

Haulagenoun) commercial transport of goods.
You can only transport people and haul goods.

Only vehicles with red number plates (commercial) should require hackney permit and road worthinesss to expire in 6 months.

But welcome to Nigeria, where vio ask for road worthinesss cert for a brand new car and claims it was registered in a fleet and not private.

Alexgray:


Haulagenoun) commercial transport of goods.
You can only transport people and haul goods.

Only vehicles with red number plates (commercial) should require hackney permit and road worthinesss to expire in 6 months.

But welcome to Nigeria, where vio ask for road worthinesss cert for a brand new car and claims it was registered in a fleet and not private.

What I wrote is in practice and not some theories!

nurey:
Let me start from the beginning and be detailed.

I drive a sienna 2000, the document is in my mum's name and the driver license and documents share same surname.

I was hauling 50 cartons of biscuit the receipt is in my name, you can't know I am carrying biscuit unless you peep into the vehicle and no my glass is clear not tinted. I hope we are on the same page?

I was flagged down by yellow fever women, I parked and greet ask for my documents and I handed it over, she now said where is your hackney permit I told her it's my personal car a private vehicle she now flared up that she was gonna delay me fuming and all but my passenger a female talked to her and she let us go Sha.

Before that one, VIO stopped me at Epe and asked for all ask able lights (reverse, brake, side indicator etc) after they saw my paper was complete I was carrying full load my friends from work, they now said I had a private number and was running commercial operation, I explained to him Sha and he asked me to indicate names of some passenger, when I said a funny nickname of one passenger he laughed and asked me to go.

I have noticed that sometimes when I reach bus stops some agbero would also run banging the car saying "make we shadow, shey make we shadow" even passengers do rush to the door shouting all kinds of area.

Is the sienna categorized as a commercial vehicle in Nigeria?

Also a private vehicle used to carry personal goods, should it also have hackney permit?

guy

u dey island

dem don ban keke and okada for island

arent u thinking what I'm thinking bayii

pattybf:


What I wrote is in practice and not some theories!

Because you and ur people practice it does not mean it is right. The law is very clear on red, and blue plates. Stop deceiving yourselves. Stop the extortion. Speak the truth and don't turn the law to theories

diportivo:


guy

u dey island

dem don ban keke and okada for island

arent u thinking what I'm thinking bayii

No time to do that one, I get stable job, sienna is the new Keke in town, I just pray they don't ban sienna in Lagos too

When your vehicle is registered as a private one, you add a Hackney carriage permit if it were to ever be engaged in commercial transport. That's the provision of the law.


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Hackney permit is meant for commercial vehicles only. Simple as ABC. By commercial vehicles I mean those registered with red number plates. If you want to use your vehicle for commercial purposes you need to convert from blue to red(private to commercial), it's not proper to obtain Hackney permit for a private vehicle but here in Lagos state you are now required to obtain Hackney permit to use for a car hailing services/ride sharing (Uber and the rest) which doesn't make sense and contradicts the ideology of ride sharing. The rate at which Lagos State extort vehicle owners is appalling to be sincere, from road worthiness (issued to newly registered vehicles), vehicle license sms fee of 200(sometimes you don't even receive any sms alert of which you paid for) and so on. Just to avoid issues on the road get an Hackney permit for your private vehicle if you're using it to haul goods or transport passengers.
Meanwhile, check my signature, I register old/new vehicle, process tinted permit and anything vehicle documents. 08144476474 whatsapp or call for details

nurey:
Let me start from the beginning and be detailed.

I drive a sienna 2000, the document is in my mum's name and the driver license and documents share same surname.

I was hauling 50 cartons of biscuit the receipt is in my name, you can't know I am carrying biscuit unless you peep into the vehicle and no my glass is clear not tinted. I hope we are on the same page?

I was flagged down by yellow fever women, I parked and greet ask for my documents and I handed it over, she now said where is your hackney permit I told her it's my personal car a private vehicle she now flared up that she was gonna delay me fuming and all but my passenger a female talked to her and she let us go Sha.

Before that one, VIO stopped me at Epe and asked for all ask able lights (reverse, brake, side indicator etc) after they saw my paper was complete I was carrying full load my friends from work, they now said I had a private number and was running commercial operation, I explained to him Sha and he asked me to indicate names of some passenger, when I said a funny nickname of one passenger he laughed and asked me to go.

I have noticed that sometimes when I reach bus stops some agbero would also run banging the car saying "make we shadow, shey make we shadow" even passengers do rush to the door shouting all kinds of area.

Is the sienna categorized as a commercial vehicle in Nigeria?

Also a private vehicle used to carry personal goods, should it also have hackney permit?

Please bro, I need your advice to decide on my next car. I'm considering Lexus GS 350 08/ ES 350 08. I'll like to know more about the gas mileage of the 2 cars thanks.

Over sabi. You can have a blue plate number and get the hackney permit. This is what the government require the e-hailing guys to get. Dey there dey speak english

woodrow:


Because you and ur people practice it does not mean it is right. The law is very clear on red, and blue plates. Stop deceiving yourselves. Stop the extortion. Speak the truth and don't turn the law to theories

adeeva06:
Over sabi. You can have a blue plate number and get the hackney permit. This is what the government require the e-hailing guys to get. Dey there dey speak english

The law is very clear on blue and red number plates.

Illiteracy is the only reason you can't differentiate ride sharing services(private) and taxi/cab services(commercial). Very soon,same govt would require you to have hackney permit for having various extended family members in a private vehicle on a normal day.

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Rest!

woodrow:


The law is very clear on blue and red number plates.

Illiteracy is the only reason you can't differentiate ride sharing services(private) and taxi/cab services(commercial). Very soon,same govt would require you to have hackney permit for having various extended family members in a private vehicle on a normal day.

moyoz:


Please bro, I need your advice to decide on my next car. I'm considering Lexus GS 350 08/ ES 350 08. I'll like to know more about the gas mileage of the 2 cars thanks.

Pick the es350 slightly better mpg and cheaper parts with medium luxury

nurey:

Pick the es350 slightly better mpg and cheaper parts with medium luxury

the gs is faster shey?

tmanis:
the gs is faster shey?

THE Gs isnt faster but more superior in luxury than the ES

nurey:

THE Gs isnt faster but more superior in luxury than the ES

for reals

pattybf:


Any vehicle registered, either commercial or private (registration) for the purpose of haulage of people or goods is required to have hackney permit.

Recently, most commercial vehicle owners have preferred to opt for private registration and obtain hackney permit as a license to carry goods or passengers. Reason is the current high cost of road worthinesss which will give them only six months if registered with commercial numbered plate.

Are you 4 real ,can I use my minivan with private Number to carry passengers And collect hackney permit for it

pattybf:


Any vehicle registered, either commercial or private (registration) for the purpose of haulage of people or goods is required to have hackney permit.

Recently, most commercial vehicle owners have preferred to opt for private registration and obtain hackney permit as a license to carry goods or passengers. Reason is the current high cost of road worthinesss which will give them only six months if registered with commercial numbered plate.

So why not make the duration and cost of road worthiness the same with private vehicles?

Things like this gives private vehicle owners problem on the road. You know how difficult our law enforcement can be.

Toyosienna:


Are you 4 real ,can I use my minivan with private Number to carry passengers And collect hackney permit for it

You can do that. You will be required to get local government papers /basket and stage carriage permit.

This is the current practise by many. But my professional advice is to go for a commercial no plate

legionISproteus:
So why not make the duration and cost of road worthiness the same with private vehicles?

Things like this gives private vehicle owners problem on the road. You know how difficult our law enforcement can be.

I want to believe you know that i am not in the position to make this change. Secondly, commercial vehicles are believed to be in more operation than private vehicles, therefore, requires more reviews (every six months).

pattybf:


You can do that. You will be required to get local government papers /basket and stage carriage permit.

This is the current practise by many. But my professional advice is to go for a commercial no plate

Ok ,thanks for clarification

pattybf:


I want to believe you know that i am not in the position to make this change. Secondly, commercial vehicles are believed to be in more operation than private vehicles, therefore, requires more reviews (every six months).

I know

In Nigeria we have a way of doing things abnormally and it shows.

Na for only Lagos da wan de work.

nurey:
Let me start from the beginning and be detailed.

I drive a sienna 2000, the document is in my mum's name and the driver license and documents share same surname.

I was hauling 50 cartons of biscuit the receipt is in my name, you can't know I am carrying biscuit unless you peep into the vehicle and no my glass is clear not tinted. I hope we are on the same page?

I was flagged down by yellow fever women, I parked and greet ask for my documents and I handed it over, she now said where is your hackney permit I told her it's my personal car a private vehicle she now flared up that she was gonna delay me fuming and all but my passenger a female talked to her and she let us go Sha.

Before that one, VIO stopped me at Epe and asked for all ask able lights (reverse, brake, side indicator etc) after they saw my paper was complete I was carrying full load my friends from work, they now said I had a private number and was running commercial operation, I explained to him Sha and he asked me to indicate names of some passenger, when I said a funny nickname of one passenger he laughed and asked me to go.

I have noticed that sometimes when I reach bus stops some agbero would also run banging the car saying "make we shadow, shey make we shadow" even passengers do rush to the door shouting all kinds of area.

Is the sienna categorized as a commercial vehicle in Nigeria?

Also a private vehicle used to carry personal goods, should it also have hackney permit?

Interestingly, this question was posed today by a logistics manager.

Nigeria is indeed a failed country.

There is no law that requires private vehicle to have a hackney permit.

Hackney permit is issued to commercial (red number) vehicles only.

The law makes a provision for that and the issuing authority issues that permit along with other vehicle documents.

Vehicles (Toyota Hilux, sienna, ford f150, Tacoma, tundra, haice bus, etc) registered for private use are not required by law to have hackney permit.

There is no Nigerian law that automatically confers commercial status to the above listed vehicles if the owner expressly requests and registers such a vehicle for private use.

The road traffic act is very clear on this issue yet we have overzealous security agencies and touts (enabled and emboldened by the inactions and tacit support of these agencies) enforcing hackney permit on these set of private vehicles.

One day na one day sha.

Pattybf, I was disappointed by your response.

I expected you to know better.

The law is the law.

The vehicle licensing agency is well within their rights to withdraw or demand a vehicle registration is changed from private to public if it deems the owner of such a vehicle is using it for commercial purposes. They have no right within the law to demand for hackney permit for a private vehicle.

I was disappointed going through this page.

9icetoo:

Interestingly, this question was posed today by a logistics manager.

Nigeria is indeed a failed country.

There is no law that requires private vehicle to have a hackney permit.

Hackney permit is issued to commercial (red number) vehicles only.

The law makes a provision for that and the issuing authority issues that permit along with other vehicle documents.

Vehicles (Toyota Hilux, sienna, ford f150, Tacoma, tundra, haice bus, etc) registered for private use are not required by law to have hackney permit.

There is no Nigerian law that automatically confers commercial status to the above listed vehicles if the owner expressly requests and registers such a vehicle for private use.

The road traffic act is very clear on this issue yet we have overzealous security agencies and touts (enabled and emboldened by the inactions and tacit support of these agencies) enforcing hackney permit on these set of private vehicles.

One day na one day sha.

Pattybf, I was disappointed by your response.

I expected you to know better.

The law is the law.

The vehicle licensing agency is well within their rights to withdraw or demand a vehicle registration is changed from private to public if it deems the owner of such a vehicle is using it for commercial purposes. They have no right within the law to demand for hackney permit for a private vehicle.

I was disappointed going through this page.

This is Nigeria