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Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by Quincykay: 12:23pm On Feb 20, 2020
Damn! This really made me laugh. Just shows how difficult it is to govern!

donbachi:
People go dey stage their own kidnapping everyday....na so 4 india,govt paid people to kill a specie of deadly snake...when they saw how they were making.they started rearing the snake at home and when the govt discovered it...dat payment thing ended..na so snake take full india today.
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by auwalyau: 12:24pm On Feb 20, 2020
Difficult to prove how much one paid for the ransom, even if the courts ok it. Kidnappers don't accept bank transfers, only cash.
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by lexxyrule(m): 12:30pm On Feb 20, 2020
donbachi:
People go dey stage their own kidnapping everyday....na so 4 india,govt paid people to kill a specie of deadly snake...when they saw how they were making.they started rearing the snake at home and when the govt discovered it...dat payment thing ended..na so snake take full india today.

Lol
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by PapaBaby: 12:32pm On Feb 20, 2020
Couldn't agree more.
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by budaatum: 12:40pm On Feb 20, 2020
Rexnegro:
make we kukuma dey kidnap ourselves na to collect money from fg
Can I kidnap you please? Lol.
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by Validated: 12:41pm On Feb 20, 2020
Not this FG that cannot pay salary. I remembered that Ozekhome (SAN) was abducted sometime ago. He should first seek refund before you lawyers start fleecing innocent unlearned Nigerians with legal wild-goose chase.
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by Brodagovernor(m): 12:47pm On Feb 20, 2020
Logically, this isn't such a bad idea. But two things I'm concerned about.
1. Due to bureaucratic nature of our judicial system, the case may pend or be adjourned till perhaps when the frog starts growing tail.
2. Trust some Nigerians, if it's so easy to reclaim the fund, they will start orchestrating all manners of kidnapping to claim ridiculous amounts of ransom paid.
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by Natazz: 12:52pm On Feb 20, 2020

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Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by Kingstanding: 12:52pm On Feb 20, 2020
DavidEsq:

Give me an example of what Falana is saying in a foreign land. Olodo somebody
. Useless and hopeless someone. I don't need to give you example ok but if you live in UK you will understand Femi Falana
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by denjjy(m): 12:58pm On Feb 20, 2020
Nice one! if that's the case, many will be faking their own kidnapp in order to collect oyel money from the federal government.

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Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by budaatum: 1:01pm On Feb 20, 2020
Kingstanding:
. Useless and hopeless someone. I don't need to give you example ok but if you live in UK you will understand Femi Falana
Please, you who live in UK, explain Femi Falana to us.

Does UK government pay or refund ransom?
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by Sirmuel1(m): 1:10pm On Feb 20, 2020
donbachi:
People go dey stage their own kidnapping everyday....na so 4 india,govt paid people to kill a specie of deadly snake...when they saw how they were making.they started rearing the snake at home and when the govt discovered it...dat payment thing ended..na so snake take full india today.


I had to read it up. Thank you!!!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by bizzibodi(m): 1:11pm On Feb 20, 2020
This man want kidnapping to increase abi?

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Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by Koolking(m): 1:12pm On Feb 20, 2020
Ekpeitut:
Seriously... I support this line of thought and action. For crying out loud we pay taxes, oil is mined and sold to run this friggin government yet their primary duty which is to secure life and property is left in the hands of the citizens.


Falana is joking as always.

Dead on arrival line of thought. How would the govt verify you were kidnapped and you eventually paid ransom to secure your release? Are kidnappers giving receipts of payments now? Ransom fees will not even be affordable since govt will refund the kidnapped. Nigerians will incorporate businesses just to kidnap family members.

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Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by Ghostmode2two(m): 1:12pm On Feb 20, 2020
Good logic but won't work. How do you show evidence of payment to FG if the kidnappers collected cash payment? Government like seeing paper evidence.
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by adrusa: 1:14pm On Feb 20, 2020
Another case that will be impossible to win. If you will get a refund, you will need to show a receipt and you may need to bring the kidnapper to court to testify that the receipt is genuine and not forged by you.

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Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by donbachi(m): 1:53pm On Feb 20, 2020
Sirmuel1:


I had to read it up. Thank you!!!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect
welcome
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by studentofTruth: 2:03pm On Feb 20, 2020
hisexcellency34:
Lagos lawyer, Femi Falana, SAN, Wednesday, called on Nigerians paying a ransom to secure freedom for their abducted loved ones to feel free to approach the courts to compel the federal government to refund same because, in his words, “the responsibility for protecting lives and properties lies squarely with the government.”

Falana disclosed this yesterday at the 18th Anti-Corruption Situation Room, ACSR, organized by the HEDA Resource Centre in partnership with the McArthur Foundation.

The senior advocate who was the keynote speaker at the event also flayed anti-graft agencies in the land for what he called the selective prosecution of corrupt cases; a development he stressed, makes winning the fight against corruption difficult.

Falana said: “If a family pays a ransom to secure freedom of their abducted ones; they should approach the courts and demand a refund of the amount paid because the primary responsibility of government is to secure the people.”

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/02/nigerians-free-to-sue-fg-for-refund-of-ransom-paid-to-kidnappers-%e2%80%95-falana/

I like Mr Falana's reasoning on this, but the government will easily win the case.

The people that can file for damages against the government and win are those whose loved ones died in the hands of kidnappers. It's easier to prove such cases. Just as the learned gentleman said, it's the primary duty of the government to protect the citizens. Banditry and kidnapping show that the government has failed.
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by studentofTruth: 2:07pm On Feb 20, 2020
Koolking:


Falana is joking as always.

Dead on arrival line of thought. How would the govt verify you were kidnapped and you eventually paid ransom to secure your release? Are kidnappers giving receipts of payments now? Ransom fees will not even be affordable since govt will refund the kidnapped. Nigerians will incorporate businesses just to kidnap family members.

The logic can work in cases of deaths in the hands of kidnappers and bandits. There are many ways to prove that — police statements, call records, autopsy, etc!

This way, the government will wake up.

It's good lawyers are finding ways to hold the government responsible.
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by Witnes: 2:08pm On Feb 20, 2020
FarahAideed:
If we are as a people payment of ransom should be banned with hefty penalty for both payer and reciever
It seems you don't know d pains, suffering these people subjected to in d hands of these kidnappers especially those that happen in north. No proper food, medics, water with daily beating. When u see the suffering keep heighten, u have to call even to borrow or sell out of any property just to leave their hands that's when u are lucky to b alive. These illiterates Fulani's in d north no b am at all.
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by Rexnegro(m): 2:26pm On Feb 20, 2020
budaatum:
Can I kidnap you please? Lol.
feel free but we go share the money o

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Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by w1sEmAn: 2:38pm On Feb 20, 2020
Even at old age this man still think well,Brain nor go kii u
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by EricksonDick: 2:42pm On Feb 20, 2020
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voltron14:


Gradually coming out of the woodwork.

I thought you had left Nairaland for good?

grin
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Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by FarahAideed: 2:45pm On Feb 20, 2020
Witnes:

It seems you don't know d pains, suffering these people subjected to in d hands of these kidnappers especially those that happen in north. No proper food, medics, water with daily beating. When u see the suffering keep heighten, u have to call even to borrow or sell out of any property just to leave their hands that's when u are lucky to b alive. These illiterates Fulani's in d north no b am at all.

Why do you think people don't kidnap and ask fo ransome in America ? Paying ransomes in America will get you to a long jail sentence ..since the Americans passed the law after kidnap of Lindberghs kid kidnappings became unprofitable and whithered away ..I know it's had but its the only proven way to quickly stem kidnapping. ..it might look like a hard price to pay but it's the only solution because the more you pay ransome the more people get kidnapped so how long is the circle going to continue , are you aware a large percentage of those kidnapped are still killed after the ransom is paid and some even eventually go home and die from the trauma ..pass this law and enforce it for one year and see this thing phase aways like it came .
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by EricksonDick: 2:49pm On Feb 20, 2020
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itsme01:
grin



FG would just send DSS, repentant book haram or Fulani herdsmen to kidnap you again, since you don't want to have sense



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Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by Pheelz2020(m): 2:52pm On Feb 20, 2020
truthfulparrot:
Who will the government approach for the
refund of millions of dollars allegedly paid by government to release those kidnapped by bandits and terrorists?
Things are so bad that a state governor entered the jungle to negotiate with bandits. If care is not taken, we will start paying taxes to bandits to live in peace.
The security situation in Nigeria is getting worst everyday and the President who happened to be an Ex General is confused.! We are in trouble.


USE MICROSCOPE AND READ YOUR REPLY AGAIN VERY WELL.
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by studentofTruth: 2:53pm On Feb 20, 2020
FarahAideed:


Why do you think people don't kidnap and ask fo ransome in America ? Paying ransomes in America will get you to a long jail sentence ..since the Americans passed the law after kidnap of Lindberghs kid kidnappings became unprofitable and whithered away ..I know it's had but its the only proven way to quickly stem kidnapping. ..it might look like a hard price to pay but it's the only solution because the more you pay ransome the more people get kidnapped so how long is the circle going to continue , are you aware a large percentage of those kidnapped are still killed after the ransom is paid and some even eventually go home and die from the trauma ..pass this law and enforce it for one year and see this thing phase aways like it came .

It can work, especially if people start holding the government responsible for wrongful deaths in the hands of kidnappers.
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by clearcutz(m): 3:09pm On Feb 20, 2020
BlackfireX:
What is this charge and bail lawyer yapping....



Are you okay? angry
Re: Falana: Kidnapped Nigerians Who Paid Ransom Can Demand Refund From FG by rafcrown(m): 3:46pm On Feb 20, 2020
And Armed robbery victims.
Kidnappers and Armed Robbers possessions like houses ,cars,savings,businesses etc to be auctioned and proceeds to be used as temporary assistance to their victims.

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