Blackfire:
The same way your region is lockdown....and chaos is unleashed.



Oko Igbo ni iyawo re gba

Bros Oduduwa would have came back to life before Yari.ba dreamt of taking on Nigeria for an ordinary fist fight.

You're deflecting again, is it so difficult for you to produce your sources? It's pretty obvious you made up the story. Nigeria did have multiple warship in it'a navy prior to the war. There's the NNS Ogoja, NNS Nigeria, NNS Lokoja, NNS Sapele etc. If you're not aware of Nigerian navy history simply read the first source I provided. As stated previously the BNS Ibandan was stolen from the Nigerian navy.

Nigeria hired mercenaries because they were more competant than their airforce. Its not that they didnt have ships. The Nigerian airforce is credit with shooting down multiple planes on Biafran side.

Again simply cite the sources you're using. Does Chinua Achebe have evidence or is he just telling stories like yourself. It shouldnt be this difficult for you to produce evidence if you actually read it anywhere.

gidgiddy:


As at 1967 when the war started, the Nigerian Military had rely on Russia for the war planes that flew over Biafra, flown by Egyptian pilots.

Now how do you think that Nigeria would have had huge Warships by 1967? Do you know how much those things cost?

A standard war plane can cost over 200 million dollars. Warships, the size that can sail the high seas and enforce a blockade can cost 2 or 3 times that amount and you would need severl of them to effect a blockade.

Do you really believe that in 1967, the Nigerian government had many millions of Dollars to buy wahips for the Nigerian Navy? Of course not

I even watched just today on YouTube and old video of Chinua Achebe being interviewed in Biafra and he accused Britain of being two faced for offering food aid to Biafra while blockading Biafra.

Maybe the Nigerian navy did have some small boats or ships in 1967 but there is no wat at all that Nigeria could have afforded to own a full fledged naval Warship without going bankrupt

LarryBee1k:


I'm not saying you're lying oh. Pls where is source of your comment.

Dont expect it to ever come. They're good with telling stories but the second you ask them to cite source its an issue.

Dedetwo:


What Biafran navy were you talk about in the above post? Biafran was a dilapidated Nigerian frigate named NNS Ibadan which Lt. P. J. Oduh sailed to Calabar for sea worthiness and never returned to Lagos.

You know I was referring to their improvised navy. Lol that's am Interesting way of saying Oduh stole ship before defecting.

Dedetwo:


The first must important reason why the silly blockade worked was Biafra was not allowed even for day to function as an independent country without being foisted with a war. If Biafra had exist, at least, for six month, it would have been able to acquire two frigates and few helicopter gunships.

I dont think Ojukwu had to declare Biafra immediately. It woukd be weird not to expect war soon after. Lastly Ojukwu was already sourcing weapons in 1966 in preparation for the war. Israel was on his first go to but they weren't very helpful till 1968.

Blue3k:


Dont expect it to ever come. They're good with telling stories but the second you ask them to cite source its an issue.



You know I was referring to their improvised navy. Lol that's am Interesting way of saying Oduh stole ship before defecting.



I dont think Ojukwu had to declare Biafra immediately. It woukd be weird not to expect war soon after. Lastly Ojukwu was already sourcing weapons in 1966 in preparation for the war. Israel was on his first go to but they weren't very helpful till 1968.

When Gowon had destroyed the regionalism and replaced it with states therefore Ojukwu had been reduced to irrelevance.

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Blue3k:
You're deflecting again, is it so difficult for you to produce your sources? It's pretty obvious you made up the story. Nigeria did have multiple warship in it'a navy prior to the war. There's the NNS Ogoja, NNS Nigeria, NNS Lokoja, NNS Sapele etc. If you're not aware of Nigerian navy history simply read the first source I provided. As stated previously the BNS Ibandan was stolen from the Nigerian navy.

Nigeria hired mercenaries because they were more competant than their airforce. Its not that they didnt have ships. The Nigerian airforce is credit with shooting down multiple planes on Biafran side.

Again simply cite the sources you're using. Does Chinua Achebe have evidence or is he just telling stories like yourself. It shouldnt be this difficult for you to produce evidence if you actually read it anywhere.

Biafra had no warship. The only frigate in the service of Biafran navy was NNS Ibadan which has faulty gun battery. Nigeria did not take out Biafran ships to enforce the blockade. Rather it was during the landing of Nigerian troops in Bonny (Ubani) where Nigerian navy engaged Biafran navy. Be mindful that NNS Lokoja was a landing craft commanded by a British, Lt Cdr Joe Cox. Lt Akin Aduwo, was not even a navigator, commanded NNS Ogoja with Sub. Lt. D. Okujagu as his 2ic. Cdr. Nelson Soroh commanded NNS Nigeria with Lt. M. Adelenwa as 2ic. I guess NNS Sapele was a supply ship manned Lt. Adulahi. If not for the information secretly given to Nigerians by Lt Cdr. Chiazor, the Biafrans would have taken out the Nigerian ships at Warri through a clandestine operation.

In the so-called showdown between Biafran and Nigerian navies, the only trained navigator was Oduh via the favor of his best friend Aduwo who incidentally took him out of the fight before it started. As a result of this battle, there was not time Biafrans tried to burst the blockade blanket Nigeria threw at Biafra because Biafra had no navy to challenge it.

Dedetwo:


Biafra had no warship. The only frigate in the service of Biafran navy was NNS Ibadan which has faulty gun battery. Nigeria did not take out Biafran ships to enforce the blockade. Rather it was during the landing of Nigerian troops in Bonny (Ubani) where Nigerian navy engaged Biafran navy. Be mindful that NNS Lokoja was a landing craft commanded by a British, Lt Cdr Joe Cox. Lt Akin Aduwo, was not even a navigator, commanded NNS Ogoja with Sub. Lt. D. Okujagu as his 2ic. Cdr. Nelson Soroh commanded NNS Nigeria with Lt. M. Adelenwa as 2ic. I guess NNS Sapele was a supply ship manned Lt. Adulahi. If not for the information secretly given to Nigerians by Lt Cdr. Chiazor, the Biafrans would have taken out the Nigerian ships at Warri through a clandestine operation.

In the so-called showdown between Biafran and Nigerian navies, the only trained navigator was Oduh via the favor of his best friend Aduwo who incidentally took him out of the fight before it started. As a result of this battle, there was not time Biafrans tried to burst the blockade blanket Nigeria threw at Biafra because Biafra had no navy to challenge it.

Are telling me a frigate is not a warship? NNS Ibandan was incapacitated during that naval battle. Experience just beat firepower that day. There's always an excuse to any loss.

The ships that took part in the coastal operations in Bonny were: NNS Nigeria, the flagship under the command of Captain Soroh; NNS Penelope, under the command of Commander James Rawe, which was the Nigerian Navy scout ship; NNS Lokoja, a landing ship, under the command of Lt. Cdr. A. Joe; NNS Ogoja was under the command of Lt. Cdr. Akin Aduwo; NNS Benin was under the command of Lt. Fingesi; NNS Enugu was under the command of Lt. A. Abdullahi;  MV Bode Thomas was under the command of Captain Laniyan, Merchant Ship and Logistic Ship, Nigerian Port Authority; MV King Jajawas a Merchant Ship and Logistic Ship belonging to the Nigerian Port Authority. 29 There was also the Army’s 3rdMarine Commando Division consisting of elements of the Lagos Garrison Organisation and a recently trained battalion comprising newly recruited men from littoral towns and cities such as Rivers and Cross River. 2 This battalion had just been raised with intensive training at Bonny Camp, Victoria Island, Lagos. The division was under the command of Lt. Col. Benjamin Adekunle. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFiudAk0H-c

Blue3k:


Are telling me a frigate is not a warship? NNS Ibandan was incapacitated during that naval battle. Experience just beat firepower that day. There's always an excuse to any loss.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFiudAk0H-c

No, it is not the case. I am not saying Biafra did not have a navy as in case of personnel however Biafra did not have warships to even attempt to burst the Nigeria blockade which was not even orchestrated by the its naval force. When the 3MCDO occupied Calabar and Port Harcourt while 2nd Div occupied midwestern region, it is absolute waste of time talking about naval blockade. With above military occupation of the stated areas, where did Biafran operate?

Dedetwo:


No, it is not the case. I am not saying Biafra did not have a navy as in case of personnel however Biafra did not have warships to even attempt to burst the Nigeria blockade which was not even orchestrated by the its naval force. When the 3MCDO occupied Calabar and Port Harcourt while 2nd Div occupied midwestern region, it is absolute waste of time talking about naval blockade. With above military occupation of the stated areas, where did Biafran operate?

Are you claiming the naval blockade was orchestrated by some other military? If you are cite your sources on the thread. Dont act like the other two posters telling stories.

There's no debating the fact Biafra didnt have the naval capacity to stop a blockade. It's the major reason for their down fall and encirclement by Nigerian military. The blockade wasn't a waste of time discussing because you even stated they couldn't sell oil due to the blockade. It also made it more difficult to get ammunition. The Biafran troops opperated in Imo and had their stronghold in hinterlands.

gidgiddy:


Nigeria did not blockade Biafra, they didnt have the capacity. In 1966, the Nigerian Navy was still in its infancy.

It was British Naval warships that blockaded Biafra. That blockade is what won the war for Nigeria. Had Britain decided to remain neutral in that war, Ojukwu would have sold Oil, bought all the military equipment, food and supplies he needed and Nigeria would have been thoroughly trashed.


Britain won the war for Nigeria with that blockade

No be awoo again?

Blue3k:


Are you claiming the naval blockade was orchestrated by some other military? If you are cite your sources on the thread. Dont act like the other two posters telling stories.

There's no debating the fact Biafra didnt have the naval capacity to stop a blockade. It's the major reason for their down fall and encirclement by Nigerian military. The blockade wasn't a waste of time discussing because you even stated they couldn't sell oil due to the blockade. It also made it more difficult to get ammunition. The Biafran troops opperated in Imo and had their stronghold in hinterlands.

By the end of six month into the Nigeria/Biafra war, the seaports in eastern region have been overrun by the 3MCDO. I ask again what sea blockade are you talking about when Biafra has no seaport? Even the airspace was partially blanketed in part because the MIGs did have night navigational system in order to enforce total day/night airspace blockade of Biafra. Which operational seaport in Biafra did Nigerian navy had to patrol in order to enforce a blockade?

Dedetwo:


By the end of six month into the Nigeria/Biafra war, the seaports in eastern region have been overrun by the 3MCDO. I ask again what sea blockade are you talking about when Biafra has no seaport? Even the airspace was partially blanketed in part because the MIGs did have night navigational system in order to enforce total day/night airspace blockade of Biafra. Which operational seaport in Biafra did Nigerian navy had to patrol in order to enforce a blockade?

There were ports in Biafra like portharcourt for example. How did you think the oil was being transport? These basics were covered in the first link I posted. The nigerian navy maintain 24 hour patrols to maintain blockade. After 1968 the navy focused blocked on water ways after capturing Bonny, Port Harcourt, Warri, Sapele, Calabar, and Oron.

The Nigerian Navy's contribution to the war made invasions of bonny sucessfully. If the weren't being constantly resupplied the would being battled back. Again the stopped weapons, food and trade. This essentially made them locked because they were encircled.

Cited sources:

Naval Military Operations in Bonny during 
the Nigerian Civil War 1967-1970

By Chukwuma C. C. Osakwe, Lawrence Okechukwu Udeagbala

Nature and Impact of Involvement of the Navy in the Nigerian Civil War, 1967-1970

By Dr. William Abiodun Duyile

Blue3k:


Dont expect it to ever come. They're good with telling stories but the second you ask them to cite source its an issue.



You know I was referring to their improvised navy. Lol that's am Interesting way of saying Oduh stole ship before defecting.



I dont think Ojukwu had to declare Biafra immediately. It woukd be weird not to expect war soon after. Lastly Ojukwu was already sourcing weapons in 1966 in preparation for the war. Israel was on his first go to but they weren't very helpful till 1968.

Ojukwu never sourced for weapons until 1967 when it was too late for mass importation.

If Ojukwu had started sourcing for weapons in 1966 immediately after the counter coup, the war would have ended differently

Warship:


Ojukwu never sourced for weapons until 1967 when it was too late for mass importation.

If Ojukwu had started sourcing for weapons in 1966 immediately after the counter coup, the war would have ended differently

Thats a lie I already cited the source that said he was asking israel for weapons in 1966. He did look fir weapons in 1966 and still lost. A better navy and better alies like USSR would have changed. They Soviets were helpful with Angola for example.

Timeline of events:

In October 1963, Israel delivered to Nigeria several mortars from SoltamLtd., an Israeli company that manufactured bothcivilian goods and military hardware. The Israeli defense ministry hoped they would buy more but Nigeria turned to Finland.

In mid January 1966 Ram Nirgad, who became Israel's ambassador in Lagos in

In mid April 1966, an Israeli ship unloaded thirty tons of 81 mm and 82 mm mortar rounds that the Nigerian government had ordered from Soltam Ltd.

In mid August 1966, Ojukwu sent two representatives from the Eastern Region on a clandestine visit to Israel in a bid to purchase military hardware. Israel sold them none but offered to introduce them to reliable arms merchants abroad.

In November 1966, the Mossad (Israel's foreign intelligence agency) tried unsuccessfully to recruit a weapons dealer in western Europe willing to fly arms to Nigeria's Eastern Region. 

Ojukwu declares Biafra independent May 30th 1967 in Enugu.

Culled from: Israel, Nigeria and the Biafra civil war, 1967–70 by Zach Levey