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Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by Bolatit123(f): 7:38am On May 10, 2020
With the current international travel restrictions, Nigerian government should order its various embassies or consulate to allow
it's citizens whose international passport has expired or about to expire to renew their internal passports without visiting any
embassy or consulate since everybody with the current digital passport has his/her data stored by the Nigerian immigration.

As lockdowns are gradually being eased-down by various countries, Nigerians residing in countries where there is no Nigerian embassy or
consulate should be able to renew their international passport in a nearby embassy or consulate without being present.

People from countries like India and others countries don't need to visit their embassy or consulate to renew their international travel
documents even before the lockdown. All they need to do is to apply for it and pay a delivery fee. Despite the lockdown, international
delivery services are still permitted.

Only first-time applicants or extreme cases should be allowed to visit the embassy or consulate. This will in-turn reduce congestion
and save costs.

I know many Nigerians whose International passport expired or about to expire including students during this period who are currently stranded or frustrated.
Essentials should be moved online as other countries are doing.
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by 48noble(m): 7:45am On May 10, 2020
The corruption in this country won't allow them to understand suffering the masses with legit hustle.
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by BranddesignerH: 7:47am On May 10, 2020
I'm even tired of this country Oo
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by Nobody: 7:48am On May 10, 2020
Bolatit123:
With the current international travel restrictions, Nigerian government should order its various embassies or consulate to allow
it's citizens whose international passport has expired or about to expire to renew their internal passports without visiting any
embassy or consulate since everybody with the current digital passport has his/her data stored by the Nigerian immigration.

As lockdowns are gradually being eased-down by various countries, Nigerians residing in countries where there is no Nigerian embassy or
consulate should be able to renew their international passport in a nearby embassy or consulate without being present.

People from countries like India and others countries don't need to visit their embassy or consulate to renew their international travel
documents even before the lockdown. All they need to do is to apply for it and pay a delivery fee. Despite the lockdown, international
delivery services are still permitted.

Only first-time applicants or extreme cases should be allowed to visit the embassy or consulate. This will in-turn reduce congestion
and save costs.

I know many Nigerians whose International passport expired or about to expire including students during this period who are currently stranded or frustrated.
Essentials should be moved online as other countries are doing.

They should implement such in Nigeria. Enough of all these extortions in the various passport office
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by mightyokwy(m): 7:49am On May 10, 2020
My flat mate is in this situation already. The worst is that his study permit will expire in June. Nigeria embassy in Barlin is shotdown since this Corona crisis started. Although German foreign office want to issue him two months temporary permit. We don't know what will happen after the two months.
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by MetaPhysical: 9:19am On May 10, 2020
OP,
In business language this is called "process mechanization". Two things will happen when you mechanize, you gain efficiency but you end up with redundancy and must lay off the hands previously engaged in the production tasks.

Some will say why lay them off, you could absorb them in other function areas. Ok. You are transferring inefficiencies from one production area to another by doing so.

The strategy for mechanized process is around funding. New technology, security and resources have to be procured and deployed to support the new method. How do you fund it? By identifying wastages around the product and cutting them off. It always end up being the human resource that is let go.

Your idea for improvement is smart and forward looking, be careful asking for mechanized product to replace manual tasks, it has consequences on the kitchen table of many households. grin
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by rationalhuman(m): 9:41am On May 10, 2020
In India their Passport system is completely Digitized and they have their Unique Identification Number (UIDAI) connected to their every Document in Digital Format. Thus Indians dont need to go in hassle with all such messy paperwork. Since they are IT superpower they are utilizing this at full spectrum. Just check the link and you will realize how vast , efficient this system is not Only Passports but their Voting Cards, Bank Accounts, Tax Files, Driving License, Phone Number all accessible by UIDAI Number Digitally.

https://uidai.gov.in/

Even Thailand, Malaysia etc dont have digitization like India, We in this continent can not imagine such services without digitization thus we all have to go Passport offices many times and this is nothing but a torture.

Gforce2015:


They should implement such in Nigeria. Enough of all these extortions in the various passport office

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Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by Bolatit123(f): 9:43am On May 10, 2020
MetaPhysical:
OP,
In business language this is called "process mechanization". Two things will happen when you mechanize, you gain efficiency but you end up with redundancy and must lay off the hands previously engaged in the production tasks.

Some will say why lay them off, you could absorb them in other function areas. Ok. You are transferring inefficiencies from one production area to another by doing so.

The strategy for mechanized process is around funding. New technology, security and resources have to be procured and deployed to support the new method. How do you fund it? By identifying wastages around the product and cutting them off. It always end up being the human resource that is let go.

Your idea for improvement is smart and forward looking, be careful asking for mechanized product to replace manual tasks, it has consequences on the kitchen table of many households. grin

You are not considerate here. It takes a lot for an ordinary hustling student to process visa to a nearby country just to renew a passport that could be done with a twinkle of eye. My friend spent a lot of money to secure a nearby country's visa, booked air ticket, paid for accommodation and still couldn't go because of Covid-19. She lost everything.

Her Indian friends have advised her to do it online as other countries now do but will Nigerian government permit it? Nobody is ruling out the processing fees. You have her data already in your system. Why all these unnecessary protocol and humiliations? The girl in question is at the verge of suicide. Other people including students are in this situation right now. How do you think they will feel about their country?

Modes move this to the front page. Something should be done urgently.
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by Bolatit123(f): 9:48am On May 10, 2020
rationalhuman:
In India their Passport system is completely Digitized and they have their Unique Identification Number (UIDAI) connected to their every Document in Digital Format. Thus Indians dont need to go in hassle with all such messy paperwork. Since they are IT superpower they are utilizing this at full spectrum. Just check the link and you will realize how vast , efficient this system is not Only Passports but their Voting Cards, Bank Accounts, Tax Files, Driving License, Phone Number all accessible by UIDAI Number Digitally.

https://uidai.gov.in/

Even Thailand, Malaysia etc dont have digitization like India, We in this continent can not imagine such services without digitization thus we all have to go Passport offices many times and this is nothing but a torture.


There is no big deal in this. Nigerians data are already in the immigration database. All you need to do is to call it up, update the date and print. No complex process or digitization is involved here.
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by Bolatit123(f): 9:51am On May 10, 2020
rationalhuman:
In India their Passport system is completely Digitized and they have their Unique Identification Number (UIDAI) connected to their every Document in Digital Format. Thus Indians dont need to go in hassle with all such messy paperwork. Since they are IT superpower they are utilizing this at full spectrum. Just check the link and you will realize how vast , efficient this system is not Only Passports but their Voting Cards, Bank Accounts, Tax Files, Driving License, Phone Number all accessible by UIDAI Number Digitally.

https://uidai.gov.in/

Even Thailand, Malaysia etc dont have digitization like India, We in this continent can not imagine such services without digitization thus we all have to go Passport offices many times and this is nothing but a torture.


The purpose of visiting the embassy is to recapture what is already in the database. This should only be applicable if there is an extreme modification in ones appearance or a first timer.
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by MetaPhysical: 10:04am On May 10, 2020
Bolatit123:


You are not considerate here. It takes a lot for an ordinary hustling student to process visa to a nearby country just to renew a passport that could be done with a twinkle of eye. My friend spent a lot of money to secure a nearby country's visa, booked air ticket, paid for accommodation and still couldn't go because of Covid-19. She lost everything.

Her Indian friends have advised her to do it online as other countries now do but will Nigerian government permit it? Nobody is ruling out the processing fees. You have her data already in your system. Why all these unnecessary protocol and humiliations? The girl in question is at the verge of suicide. Other people including students are in this situation right now. How do you think they will feel about their country?

Modes move this to the front page. Something should be done urgently.

You do know that India has a national records database, correct? This makes processing of biodata records possible.

The reason Trump put Nigeria on travel ban is due to lack of such central records, which makes it extremely difficult to process bio-profile on intending applicants.

For the same reason, the information we need, wehther at passport office, national ID card office, INEC office, vehicle registration office, insurance records, and so on......to support the type of efficiency you demand are simply lacking for Nigeria. You are talking about passport because thats your immediate need. What about other needs area?

So it is a bigger problem than you understand. To imagine it in a better scale, consider that Indians can pretty much surf internet 24hrs of the day. In Nigeria we cannot. Why, after all we have phones and laptops like they do? Bandwidth resource, consistent power, data affordability, quality of service. So it is more than just having phones and laptops, backend resources are unreliable and non-dependent.

Apply that scenario to the issue of passport. You will understand the problem and the relationship to job security.

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Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by Bolatit123(f): 10:27am On May 10, 2020
MetaPhysical:


You do know that India has a national records database, correct? This makes processing of biodata records possible.

The reason Trump put Nigeria on travel ban is due to lack of such central records, which makes it extremely difficult to process bio-profile on intending applicants.

For the same reason, the information we need, wehther at passport office, national ID card office, INEC office, vehicle registration office, insurance records, and so on......to support the type of efficiency you demand are simply lacking for Nigeria. You are talking about passport because thats your immediate need. What about other needs area?

So it is a bigger problem than you understand. To imagine it in a better scale, consider that Indians can pretty much surf internet 24hrs of the day. In Nigeria we cannot. Why, after all we have phones and laptops like they do? Bandwidth resource, consistent power, data affordability, quality of service. So it is more than just having phones and laptops, backend resources are unreliable and non-dependent.

Apply that scenario to the issue of passport. You will understand the problem and the relationship to job security.

You are deviating from the topic. We are not talking about national database here. Nigerian immigration has the data of every Nigerian with an international passport. They should use it to reproduce or renew passports in this period instead of frustrating people. Go through posts above, you'll discover that a lot of people are in this problem right now. If something is not done urgently, they'll be calamity.

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Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by MetaPhysical: 10:42am On May 10, 2020
Bolatit123:


You are deviating from the topic. We are not talking about national database here. Nigerian immigration has the data of every Nigerian with an international passport. They should use it to reproduce or renew passports in this period instead of frustrating people. Go through posts above, you'll discover that a lot of people are in this problem right now. If something is not done urgently, they'll be calamity.

I understand what you say. To get us to that point you proposed we need an improvement in the process. Immigration is not by itself, it ties in with other disparate records on security and sovereingty. With one infrastructure you can solve the immigration improvements, customs, census, national ID, Vehicle registry, and a host of others. The same system will address all the different workflow for those other agents and each dept will have its designated portal. At the end of the deployment for that improvement we would have ended up with a central records database.

Immigration alone is not going to embark on such project due to cost. To find a way to fund it they will end up laying people off. It is poor people in the uniform that will suffer, not those with elite privileges.

But if all the agencies that benefit from the improvement share in the project, the cost distribution is light and affordable. Like I said, one system will take care of about ten or more federal agencies.
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by MetaPhysical: 10:47am On May 10, 2020
On the issue of renewing passports during lockdown. It is related with Federal guidelines. What is the guideline from Ministry of Interior and the Directorate of Immigration?

If for instance Immigration officers in Nigeria have direction to stop work and observe lockdown, That will apply as well to Immigration attaches in embassies abroad.
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by MetaPhysical: 10:50am On May 10, 2020
If I were in the same situation with about to expire passport, I think I would make inquiry with my school and the conssulate of the country and get clarity on what is applicable with Covid situation.
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by doggedfighter(f): 12:04pm On May 10, 2020
What's breaking in the news?
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by MetaPhysical: 12:34pm On May 10, 2020
I believe she has a strong point on her grievance. It is frustrating that we are far behind in digital record keeping and centralized records database.

To address her immediate issue she will need to get clarity from multiple points - particularly foreign school and their embassy - on how to proceed with a passport with less than six months validity.
Re: Breaking News! Many Nigerians Whose International Passports Are About To Expire by mytime24(f): 1:46pm On May 10, 2020
Immigration officers
And naija police


I no kwn who bad/good pass

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